Who Were The Other Seekers In ROTF

[@wellido4134]

How funny , we're discussing about a film which is more than a decade old ❤️

[@Theorymus]

I was literally thinking about that earlier 😎👍

[@jacklovesgaming7368]

Im stinger!! 👌

[@optimusprime714]

There can only be one Optimus prime

[@optimusprime714]

*pops energon swords

[@Acidstormstudios]

@Alex Gibson that will mean that fixing transformers is a bad thing

[@truicide4054]

interviewer: so mr astrotrain, why do you choose a train as your alt mode every time? astrotrain: i like trains

[@chriscarpenter3370]

interviewer: *gets hit by train*

[@joverplays9342]

@@chriscarpenter3370 ah, a man of culture i see

[@chriscarpenter3370]

@@joverplays9342 mudflap: *hits skids* skids: ow! hey, what the hell is wrong with you?! *LEVEL UP*

[@AGuyNamedGray]

@@chriscarpenter3370 Skids and Mudflap: *Start Fighting* Bee: *Tosses Them* Mission passed: respect

[@joverplays9342]

@@chriscarpenter3370 oh hell yeah

[@morguhnburke685]

Him: "There's only one female transformer that comes to mind here.." Me: "Thunderblast" Him: "Nautica" Me: "Okay that's fair."

[@yanderekfcwaifu4524]

Thunderblast was more of a motorboat than a submarine

[@cavalierliberty6838]

@@yanderekfcwaifu4524 heh, motorboat...

[@Soundwavedits2012]

Me arcce

[@tylermcweeny2256]

In DOTM sea spray was a military hover boat I have the toy of him as well

[@funnyfunnyvalentine7991]

@@yanderekfcwaifu4524 She can motorboat me any day

[@strych1550]

imagine how different the rest of the movies would have been if Sam went to a different seeker instead of jetfire

[@BlackLivesMatter23]

Yeah imagine Prime combining with the Model T seeker.

[@ilikepigeons6101]

@@BlackLivesMatter23 LMAO XD

[@shabaunhughes1674]

Hmmm I never thought of that

[@SirBroccolingtonIII]

@@BlackLivesMatter23 With all of it's wooden frame glory.

[@FireFly-kz2te]

@@BlackLivesMatter23 The model T will probably turn into a weapon like a target master

[@SirBroccolingtonIII]

These videos, no matter how long or short they are, are _always_ worth the wait.

[@Theorymus]

Thanks brother man I appreciate it

[@Brazil10003]

As for what happened to the American Seekers, is explained in Transformers: Nefarious (which is IDW's sequel to ROTF). In it, is shown that all the Seekers that The Fallen has sent to search for the Matrix of Leadership, began a competition to see which one of them would find it first. one of those Seekers, who is called Fortress, wanted to be the one to find it so badly that he killed all of them in order to assure no one would find it except for him. One of the Seekers he killed, however, was the gcm 250 flatbed truck (i know it's a truck from 1950 but that's how it's depicted in the comic), and the way he killed the Seeker, caused his lifeless frame (Cybertronian term for corpse) to crash with a car that belongs to Carter Newell's parents. The crash crippled Carter and killed his parents, causing the young boy to swear revenge against all Transformers and create the Initiative to do so. With one of the Transformers he captured being Fortress himself. The European Seekers managed to escape from his killing spree though.

[@KnightPrime1]

It’s kinda surprising how the knights don’t fall apart like bulldog or Jetfire. They are really old and yet they still have the ability to take the form of an enormous Dragon. It’s even similar to the Constructicons... idk

[@Theorymus]

I'll have to look into it

[@KnightPrime1]

@@Theorymus Wow! Ok! I didn’t know I’d get a reply! Thanks trans.

[@KnightPrime1]

@Samuel Cannon Maybe. But good point.

[@xidam8254]

Maybe there bodys were built different

[@amazingamari4009]

@Samuel Cannon True, but the knights were made by Quintessa herself, the practical god of the transformers, which means there's a chance they're actually older than the primes themselves, considering they were her 'guardians'.

[@phantomaxolotl3351]

Seeking seekers be seeking seekers that seek other seekers

[@venztheLtaker]

Is your head ok?

[@etam8099]

@@venztheLtaker after that no

[@venztheLtaker]

I think @Emperor Axolotl need's a therapy

[@Kuwagattai]

U know those times where u say something too many times to the point where it doesnt feel like a word anymore? Yeah thats this

[@jawaboi9698]

is this a tongue twister?

[@skulg359]

I think all the seekers are given the ability to teleport-since the Fallen could teleport it would only make sense to give that same ability to his most loyal followers and it would explain how jetfire could teleport sam and the gang to Egypt

[@Soundwavedits2012]

So Prime could of just teleported to fight the Fallen

[@bojaboom1407]

@@Soundwavedits2012 but was prime a seeker?

[@Soundwavedits2012]

@@bojaboom1407 He had Jetfire 's parts so he most likely had the ability to teleport and Jetfire could have lived by teleporting Optimus and him

[@Darth-vade123]

Meh I would have preferred to see the actual seekers as in starscream's armada

[@BHG198]

Jetfire didn't teleport he opened a space bridge

[@l.a.nproduction3]

I like the idea of nautica being the submarine and her being a giant. I like to think she'd be a big sister to the more reckless autobots if she appeared in more movies.

[@12oz-MAN]

From the Revenge of the Fallen novel When Jetfire transported Sam Witwicky's group through a transspacial portal to Egypt, the energy discharge caught the attention of Ransack, who followed them through his own portal. Ransack flew towards the group until his engine sputtered out and he crashed in front of Jetfire. Ransack then transformed and started to pick a fight with Jetfire, calling him a yellow-bellied traitor. Taking the "yellow" comment the wrong way, Bumblebee wanted to intervene, but Sam convinced him that the dispute was between the two of them and they shouldn't get involved. Declaring that they were going to settle things right there and then, Ransack took a shot at Jetfire...which bounced off him, causing no damage. Jetfire abruptly ended the conflict by stomping Ransack to death. This would have been a pretty good scene

[@vanguardRailgun924]

I loved Ransack’s toy, it was so good for no good reason.

[@cynicalstring5614]

The jet could be Thrust. The alt mode has a resemblance of his Armada alt mode

[@reubenhw]

I was thinking silver bolt

[@cynicalstring5614]

@@reubenhw I don't think so. There was already a concept for silver bolt in revenge of the fallen and dark of the moon. And there was a toy set made for the aerial bots. And the Alt mode is not the same to the alt mode in dark of the moon

[@reubenhw]

@@cynicalstring5614 oh damn I never knew ☺️ thanks

[@primustheprotogen3169]

It could be literally ANY of the jet decepticons other than screamer.

[@cynicalstring5614]

@@primustheprotogen3169 that is not entirely true since most of the jet deceptions are modeled after Starscream. We have seen Thundercracker and Skywarp as toys from Transformers 1 and they were just Starscream repaints. It couldn't be the cone heads either. Because there is already a Thrust toy and that alt mode does not resemble the seeker in the picture. The only one I can think of that could be that one is Cyclonus.

[@ameyabhargava7483]

Imagine how interesting rotf would’ve been if they allowed for other seekers

[@raphaeldagamer]

I just noticed an error. In the photo of the Order of the Witwiccans, Hot Rod is shown in his Lamborghini Centenario inspired robot mode. 115 years before Lamborghini would release the Centenario and 15 years before Ferruccio Lamborghini was even born. I understand that people don't tend to model or animate cybertronians before they have the alt mode they use on screen, but come on. Animated did that, g1 did that, even 2015 RiD did that, but Prime, TLK, and the Netflix WfC cartoon just couldn't manage it.

[@funnyfunnyvalentine7991]

Nonono, you misunderstand. Hot Rod INSPIRED the design. Total theft

[@albay543]

And also a 2007 optimus prime can be seen in the paintings bruhh!!!! And also iron hide can be seen, i think edmund just put them there for some reason

[@screamerlover5781]

Why do you guys spend so much time patching up plot holes that Michael Bay didn’t give a shit about?

[@funnyfunnyvalentine7991]

@@screamerlover5781 Because we actually enjoy Transformers as a franchise

[@screamerlover5781]

@@funnyfunnyvalentine7991 So do I, but I actually have standards

[@wildfox8775]

I hope more Seekers appear in the next movie Like Thundercracker and Skywarp

[@nish912]

nope thundercracker was in the comics skywarp was just idk

[@nish912]

Also bayverse Is over

[@Archive_7802]

@@nish912 I think they mean the Knight timeline (not to be confused with AoE or TLK, what I meant was Travis Knight’s take on it).

[@nish912]

@@Archive_7802 oh

[@christopherchocolate69420]

@@Archive_7802 well there r already Thundercraker and other ones in BB already (cybertron)

[@Ced9SL]

When I was younger I was confused about so many things in the tf universe

[@ayeletkuellar72]

Same but trans makes the universe less confusing

[@SDfan2002]

I’m still confused.

[@pancho855]

You and me both, Blitz', you and me both, i used to think that everything was a continuation of the previous thing, i blame it on my ignorance and lazyness

[@Ced9SL]

@@ironlord3618 excuse me

[@pumpkinspicedproductions7515]

@@ironlord3618 bruh

[@FiFaFan390]

2:58 Jetfire 5:34 Rancept 6:07 Astrotrain 6:35 LoveNut 7:02:RamJet 7:23 Kup 8:13 Bulldog 9:02 SpitFire 10:59 Nauticam

[@skyhunt9595]

Never thought astro could been there for long time. He seems know megatron.

[@imnotaracistokay]

haha lovenut

[@pulling_up]

Its lugnut not lovenut 💀

[@ВалерийРепешко-у7ш]

Ĝ

[@davszo6766]

Where Thundercracker

[@codycawthon9006]

I love how in depth he goes and actually tries to explain things

[@Theorymus]

Bingo

[@ezucra]

Michael Bay just says: "Yeah that makes sense" Without actually explaining why they do this or that

[@kiwanukafamily]

fro😊om bumblebee movie they are

[@kiwanukafamily]

​@@Theorymus I know all of the seekers they're astro train jet fire I don't know the rest of the seekers

[@kiwanukafamily]

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[@barricadethedecepticon1350]

Trans Theories:Hmmmm I'm I missing a seeker,nope? Studio Series Thundercracker:I'm I a joke to you

[@zekrom916]

i was today years old when i found out Megtronus is The Fallen

[@Theorymus]

Nice

[@Brocc0]

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[@christopherchocolate69420]

More like: 👁⬜👁

[@yanderekfcwaifu4524]

@@christopherchocolate69420 ye🤣

[@PrinceStudios11]

hey we have similar pfps

[@Imanaliyev34]

No one gonna talk about spitfire's connected helmet works the same as jetfire's helmet

[@MrFedoraFilm]

Wow, I totally forgot about these unnamed old Seekers from ROTF. Thanks for shinning a light on these old guys. 5:19 The Ford Model T. Base on the concept art for it, which was later used for Ransack, I would agree that it could have been him. 6:02 Hudson steam locomotive. Yeah, I also agree that it could have been Astrotrain. 6:27 B-24 Liberator. I like to think that bomber plane was Lugnut. 6:51 The F-104 Starfighter I would disagree on. It looks more like Skydive rather then Ramjet. Even though Skydive transforms into a F-16 Falcon fight jet, the color scheme and jet body type kind of matches Skydive. 7:08 1950 gmc 250 flatbed truck. Certainly looks like it could have been Kup. -Also it's interesting that you group Bulldog, Spitfire, and Nautica as possibly the HMS Alliance submarine from TLK as old Seekers. And I agree with that. But yeah, this 9:45 Northrop. Can't make heads or tails on who it could have been. The deleted seeker as the 13:07 F-102 Delta Dagger jet, This I would guess to be Ramjet. That's one theory down. Now for your next theory, to match up who was where on the map. Since Wheelie pointed out five other locations.

[@SSRuiz]

now that I think about it, I agree with your statement on the F-104 being Skydive & the F-102 being Ramjet (I think if the wings on the F-102 were folded down, then that could pass as Ramjet, but if they were folded up, the F-102 could also pass as being Dirge, since Dirge & Ramjet have similar jet alt modes, with different styled wings); any of the G1 Aerialbots could be a potential Movie Seeker that became the F-104, so it might be Skydive or it perhaps might be one of the others

[@AGuyNamedGray]

A shame out of the dozens of established seekers we only saw two. Not even the older seekers like Overcast were mentioned much in any media

[@Acidstormstudios]

I just realized that Ion storm is (sorta like) the Zeus of the Transformers you know, because of their lightning ability

[@puteraperdanakurniawan7263]

I was just in you're community tab, talking how dangerous drugs are and that it could ruin you're future, never go on the wrong side. I actually forgot about the seekers in tf2 since the movie was a decade ago. And im actually suprised that you're still trying to fix the entire Transformers cinematic universe even though it has already ended after tf5. Keep up the good work, you're so close to reaching another milestone 100.000 subs

[@cringelord2875]

If the flatbed one was kup, I'd like to think he and Jetfire both agreed to switch sides to the autobots, or maybe Kup was one of the seekers still loyal to the 6 other primes, trying to discover the matrix not to use it for the star harvester, but know of its location should the other autobots ever need to move it

[@haymanwoo1031]

This vid in a nutshell: those bois, we don’t know only speculation. Old bois in Europe those must be seekers

[@zivo9453]

underrated comment

[@rblxshadowytplays8631]

Starscream still has his chicken legs that have not been trained and so....His seekers had to do the job for him

[@Soundwavedits2012]

Nice one 😂😂😂

[@venyeet5021]

Skipped leg day

[@perseuschan]

Looks like Bulldog is older than Jetfire.

[@perseuschan]

And he has more falling parts then Jetfire.

[@MIRAGE_as]

Yesssss I’ve been waiting

[@wafagdplqs4421]

Megatron go away from this body !

[@christopherchocolate69420]

Megatron stole prime's body Does that count as jojo reference?

[@MIRAGE_as]

@@wafagdplqs4421 No it’s totally prime “I RiSe AnD yoU FaLl!” See!

[@MIRAGE_as]

@@christopherchocolate69420 that’s totally AbSUrd!

[@xidam8254]

I remember there was a Very "Exsecive" Concept art of Shockwave were he's Alt mode is a bomber plane (the Boomerang shaped one) all you need to do is just rename the guy and BOOM he is the fictional northrop

[@samsarex4318]

Bumblebee and hotrod: hey Nautica: hey Nautica 1 second later: WHAT! Update: I decided to make a name for the unknown bomber transformer I'ma call it highbrow named after the Autobot headmaster who didn't turn into a bomber but turned into an osprey but you never now highbrow could have possibly been in tlk as one of the many osprey's during the cybertron scene

[@BlackLivesMatter23]

The LEGO City police chief: HEY!

[@FormerWarAnimator]

@@BlackLivesMatter23 A transformer has fallen into the river, in central London! Ok what am i kidding, Nautica can just throw em out anyway.. Or not.

[@ghostder321]

I would actually love to see a movie about Jetfire’s history. We would get more background on the first primes, the fallen and all the other seekers. We would also see a decepticon story for the first time since Jetfire was a decepticon at first. There is a lot of interesting content. 🤔

[@Benjitron47]

Can you maybe do a follow up of what happened to said seekers? Great video btw! Keep on keeping on, trans! We love you!

[@Theorymus]

Thx man 👍

[@Benjitron47]

@@Theorymus no problem

[@ShinwarJ-LFA86]

i wanted to know the other seekers the moment i saw these pictures , and then when i finished the movie i totally forget about them . Great content . take care and thank you.

[@readmyusernamecauseitssoreally]

As a lover of trains, I'd love to see what astrotrain looks like as a locomotive looks like in robot mode

[@professionalprofessor9033]

I always wondered if seekers were hired by the primes

[@crystalin_N]

What if I survived: Sideswipe.

[@chriscarpenter3370]

I'm not even sure if he died

[@crystalin_N]

@@chriscarpenter3370 true, but we never heard of dino ever again same as sideswipe.

[@chriscarpenter3370]

@@crystalin_N I think Dino and Starscream killed each other in the bayformers comics.

[@crystalin_N]

@@chriscarpenter3370 were talking bay verse like movie wise. And if that were true in the bayverse starscream died at the end of dark of the moon.

[@florettenkuithe5112]

Yes trans do a what if I survived about sideswipe

[@sleepy_boy.dc5]

I had a feeling the train of the seeker was going to be astrotrain and the jet would be ramjet. Love your videos Trans!!💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜

[@darylemerson2957]

After watching the whole video. People give this man a round of applause 👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏

[@LordBumblebee1238]

I think the reason why Bulldog and Spitfire were in poor shade was due to their alternate modes, making them behave old, and due to whatever war or conflicts they endured must’ve damaged their brain modules, making them have the robot dementia, though Jetfire probably only had dementia due to damage to his head and was falling apart due to choice of alt mode and how long he was in vehicle mode

[@shadowmarauder6033]

what if the reason the project in sector seven was shut down was because of soundwave's allies? He had multiple high-ranking humans working for him, so maybe a few of them were tasked to hide the existence of the seekers so that the Autobots wouldn't look for them as possible allies, since their leader was the last prime.

[@hesiod_delta9209]

That actually makes a lot of sense, but it does make you wonder how they never got to Megatron until decades later in 2007.

[@Johhnyboy6]

Damn I used to watch you from 3 years ago and stopped around a year ago if you remembered me, I asked you to do what happened to Mikaela and how did barricade get his new appearance, back then you had like 10-20k subs and not too many views, so cool and happy to see how much you’ve grown now, great job Jason. Hard work paid off

[@Theorymus]

Thanks man I appreciate your kind words, it's awesome to hear from an OG of the channel and I truly appreciate that

[@Johhnyboy6]

@@Theorymus no problem dude, I just got back into transformers so I’ll be binge watching some of your stuff. Can you do some theories on the new Netflix trilogy series war for cybertron?

[@onetrackmind3558]

You should do "What if they ALL survived" in one video.

[@chriscarpenter3370]

hope you got snacks and drinks cuz that'd be a damn movie. good idea nonetheless

[@onetrackmind3558]

@@chriscarpenter3370 yep

[@christopherchocolate69420]

@@chriscarpenter3370 I have popcorn _:)_

[@chriscarpenter3370]

@@christopherchocolate69420 I got mtn dew

[@Soundwavedits2012]

@@chriscarpenter3370 yep

[@erwinorea6602]

Yes I have been waiting for this video for a long time and it’s here.

[@colthuff3]

Spitfire and Jetfire not only have similar names but similar bodies and issues. Thus they might’ve been created around the same time but spitfire not being as bad in condition because of his size.

[@commando_barrage501]

All I ask is some sort of series of each of the Europe Seekers + Jetfire telling the other bots Optimus, Bumblebee, etc. old stories about their ways while well...seeking

[@Potatoham]

Honestly if the bayverse did continue we probably would not have seen these seekers again anyway ,but it’s fun to imagine how cool it would be to watch the seekers fly to battle one last time against unicron

[@drbenos3305]

Im thinking the reason for transformers rapidly falling apart is a mix between aging and lack of a constant source of energon, also with jet fire the preservation techniques of the museum he was at they might have replaced some of his parts, combined with his age his body may have rejected those parts. Just a theory

[@daccbeatbox1390]

Toward the end of the video, there is a F102 Delta Dagger which has more accurate characteristics to those of Ramjet than the F104 Starfighter. There were 3 similar jet types in Gen 1-2 being Star Scream, Ramjet, and I can't remember the third one that had a larger yet thinner profile. And considering that Jetfire was an Autobot and the other 3 were Decepticons that third one is more likely to be the 104. Especially since the 102 is more closely related in size to the YF22 that Star Scream chose in the Bayverse. There is also the fact that the 102 is closer in design to Ramjet's Gen 1-2 appearances than a 104.

[@shadowmarauder6033]

really great research done here, very well done! i personally like the idea that not all seekers have flying altmodes, since being able to traverse the ground has it's advantages.

[@LuckyArceus]

I would love the idea of two autobot brothers that transform into a model T and a model A respectively. I’d imagine them as a much more cordial version of the skids and mudflap duo.

[@Panzer-535]

one is a Model T the other a Dodge 30. mimicking the Ford/Dodge Brothers rivalry, lol

[@merafirewing6591]

​@@Panzer-535 and the colourful language to make it worth watching.

[@0Warpath]

I have to go against the Lugnut theory, you see there was a toy released who looks exactly like the B-24 Liberator , that person is the Autobot Springer, sure Springer's toy is a V-22 Osprey helicopter but I have a theory, and don't forget when Jetfire was revived they we're all shocked that it was a Decepticon seeker, so does this mean that their we're Autobot seekers? In my belief no, I think Autobots who could fly went after the Decepticon seekers (showing why everyone was surprised it was a Decepticon) and Springer was one of the Autobots to to follow the Decepticon seekers, and Springer found the alternate mode B-24 Liberator to hide against who he was trying to capture, and before his energon went out he knew he was going to be offline for quite some time so he scanned the V-22 Osprey as it's a more comfortable helicopter mode, giving the reason why his toy was released as a Osprey but in the movie it shows as a B-24 Liberator.

[@chuckyleeray3921]

I had no idea that the fallen was named megatronus. That is really interesting to me. Great video man!!!

[@Theorymus]

The more you know 👍

[@enzoreysameon9624]

i knew

[@pickletacodile9212]

I love this video because I’ve been thinking about what are the other ones are And you just brought it to the table and made an amazing Siri this is why your channel is amazing thank you for everything you do.

[@Theorymus]

Thanks man I appreciate your kind words

[@ayeletkuellar72]

Weird i don’t remember in seekers in rotf

[@atomicniko92]

Well remember when the group was looking at pictures of older vehicles before going to the little plane museum. Those were the original seekers and Jetfire was included in it!

[@ayeletkuellar72]

Oh cool i just forgot 😅

[@David-pn2vz]

13:10 I think that probably would've been Thundercracker, judging by the colors

[@Chazzy_D]

I would like to see a video explaining why between the 2nd and 3rd films the transformers switched from having their weapons being an extension of their limbs (like bumblebees cannon or optimus’ swords) to having handheld weapons.

[@Theorymus]

I plan to do a vid on that

[@coolguyishere8851]

My bro. So close to 100k let’s gooooo! Been here since 4K your vids have gotten so much better. Can’t wait.

[@Theorymus]

Thx man I really appreciate it 👍

[@coolguyishere8851]

I appreciate your vids bro. Keep up the good work!

[@pancho855]

My immediate thought on the submarine was Tidal-Wave due to the character also being a water based vehicle.

[@nino03chumburidze86]

trans i really like your theorie keep doing your thing

[@Theorymus]

Thx man 👍

[@nino03chumburidze86]

@@Theorymus any time

[@marabu1268]

Seeking for the autobots, SEEKERS CEASE THEM.

[@TheSypherMan]

Finally something interesting today, BTW Im watching during class

[@Theorymus]

Big man

[@sceonaiddover6585]

wait if jet fire was an black bird he hasn’t been in stasis lock for to long so bumblebee and hot rod would be roaming around at the same time

[@mikzpwnz_3199]

Or at least noticed that both Megatron and the All spark when they had crashed on earth. some of them have forms that were before hoover dam was built so they could pick up the radiation of it and if a low ranking decepticon like wheelie can locate them well enough to point them out on a map with only a photo of them, why haven NEST and the Autobots also noticed them and at least locked them up at the island base for questioning? The same question could also said of the deceptions in T1 as "hey, free allies. Also what you're doing here? Wait, an already set up energon converter? That makes looking for the all-spark less urgently needed in the grand scheme of things and it would be easier to find both it and Megatron if all the humans are dead." Though bayformers always had a problem with ignoring what happened in the previous films and how they would have gone differently if they used the assets that they "already had".

[@bedrockharvester]

Astrotrain was the youngest seaker and joined the order at the very end of their time and was still young enough to serve the decepticons in Dark of the moon before he starts falling apart and going insane

[@TAKARAKURIKARA]

Do what happened to soundwave after the paris attack? O_O

[@joverplays9342]

well... he died

[@amazingamari4009]

he came down to earth and was in Dark of The Moon.

[@nish912]

I died

[@amazingamari4009]

@@nish912 huh, quite unfortunate

[@joverplays9342]

@@nish912 yeah that's what i said

[@seancarroll136]

I would love to add in more lore into the seekers. For example, why not have an explanation why Amelia Earhart vanished and was never seen? Because the plane (the Lochead Vega 5) she flew in was actually a seeker keeping Amelia safe until a massive storm in the fog shot his engines which was actually planned by a decepticon, then crashed into the ocean while Amelia tried to rescue him. But couldn’t save him, until now in present day his remains were discovered by Nautical and swam back to meet Edmond and Cogman, until he then activated but only saying his last few words. What do ya think? Ridiculous or what!?

[@127jb]

It's hard to classify what the cut seeker us, given the quality of the image. It could be either Thundercracker, or Dirge. They are both blue, but Thundercracker has light blue color while Dirge is dark blue. There are many spots in the fighter that is dark and light blue, which makes it hard for me to decide who he could've been.

[@LiterallyEveryone217]

Trans Theories has returned! I have been waiting so long for this video. Also idk why this is in my mind but, you are like The opposite of MatPat. I mean like how he makes bizzare theories that *may* make sense but you make theories that can easily fit in and make sense. Overall you are a great youtuber. Thank you

[@Theorymus]

Thx man I appreciate your kind words 👍😎🤟

[@Noah_Obama]

Litterally he just asks questions that the writers dont know the answer to AND I LOVE IT

[@Theorymus]

Bingo

[@Noah_Obama]

@@Theorymus this is peak tf fan comunity

[@rockymusprime]

Thank you for this video!

[@Fiddle0131]

Just hearing Lugnuts name made me smile. I really hope he gets another chance in the spotlight. By the way, I've got a question for you. What happened to Frenzy?

[@Theorymus]

Frenzy was killed in the 2007 movie by his own weapon later in Revenge of the Fallen we can see his head as an Easter egg

[@TECHNO-lw4jo]

nautica was probably so old that she lost the ability to transform.

[@sir-tic-of-tak1669]

He’s back

[@Theorymus]

Hes alive

[@alejandrodefilliposantos201]

Hes here

[@donaldbridgewater9674]

At last there's hope after all

[@sovietcatbrat8722]

3:28 you mean thanks to cable and jet fire? Without cable jetfires parts going to Optimus wouldn’t have happened

[@sovietcatbrat8722]

You have made my night by liking my comment. I work night shifts and me and my spouse enjoy watching your videos for explanations on a lot of transformers plot holes. She used to ask me a lot of questions on things I didn’t particularly know and we ended up using your channel a lot, so thanking you giving us something to bond over!

[@Theorymus]

Happy to help

[@wurmrave6831]

I would love a video where you rewrite all of the five movies the way you want it with no restrictions and budget. Kind of like nando v movies but more free.

[@ahmedthecreator1736]

9:03 Spitfire's name was also the name of a famous WW2 Fighter Plane known as The Supermarine Spitfire, because of the wings on his back, he is based off of that vehicle

[@dominicdamienm3336]

What if brawl never died

[@Theover4000]

One of my favorite things about the seekers is that it implies the B-24 Diamond Lil is truly a Transformer, and as a History Buff, and a B-24 fan.. It makes me smile.

[@starscream1016]

You should do a what if you survived on cliffjumper from the bumblebee movie

[@connie2190]

What happened to the shard that revived Megatron. And did you know that the wings on his tank mode are just a modified version of his jet mode wings

[@godzillagilbert1337]

The delta dagger could be dirge due to a similar design in vehicle mode and during the events of the movie he could have changed his colors from the one seen in the picture to his more g1 inspired colors but instead of yellow wings he has yellow leading edges in an homage to the original

[@willsen8908]

Did the hudson seeker survive to present day, since. All the Hudsons were scrapped by new york central, the only thing left of a hudson is a tender, not a locomotive

[@HelenaSan425]

Starscream: hey megatron check out my tattoos!

[@Scourge_Studios]

Nice video man

[@Theorymus]

Ty

[@Scourge_Studios]

No problem 😄 love ur channel

[@djhaze103]

You know it’s odd that seeker in this case actually makes more sense as a namesake compared to just being copy’s of starscream. ....these seekers are actually ancient explorers....”seeking” a way to get more Energon for the race to survive

[@TroySoy]

I actually like this better than the seekers just being starscream clones I'm not sure what they're purpose was but the movies make it fit much better. If there's one thing I hate is laziness and lack of originality and when you make other characters look the same but with different colours then that's just lazy writing to me

[@AlexanderRodriguez-ot2se]

Hey trans I just wanted to say that you did amazing on this video and keep up the good work

[@KenHacker456]

When all of the escape pods, were gone, how did Optimus manage to get to earth without being seen in Bumblebee?

[@Theorymus]

I plan to do a vid on that

[@Zaxerphone]

i can fly

[@nugg3tman116]

This was a good theory on the seeker lore and the other seeker members great job Trans Theories

[@Theorymus]

Thx

[@HelenaSan425]

Trans theories Question Who wins in a fight between 2007 Barricade vs Dropkick from the bumblebee movie i prefer Barricade tho

[@Theorymus]

Probably barricade

[@HelenaSan425]

@@Theorymus does dropkick have a chance

[@Theorymus]

I mean it's possible he does oh, but I just like barricade better

[@Dominic-di6nr]

I Believe the Northrop transformer could possibly be Stratosphere and when you mentioned that the Northrop is a a fictional one and a mix of two planes I concluded that Stratosphere could have the probability to teleport to alternate universes and could have scanned the Northrop in an alternate universe.

[@imtobster9458]

hey btw in transformers the last knight in the town battle scene megatron is shown to have a jetpack so wouldnt he be alive from the fall instead off falling to his death

[@Theorymus]

He would have survived

[@benpretend_]

Megatron 100% survived TLK. likely they had plans for him and Unicron in TF6! Guess we'll never know lol

[@me-4106]

I would love to see more of spitfire and bulldog

[@harrishyatt6283]

in a future transformers series i wanna see the dynasty of primes looking like his rotf versions, they sacrificed there live to prevent the fallen from killing sentinel prime, i hope michael york, kevin michael richardson, and robin atkin downes voices them in a future transformers series

[@malthungaming3466]

I want to point out something else about Spitfire that you seemed to fail to: Spitfire appears to have some visual clues to having an Airplane alternate mode. Judging from the fines on his back, and the marks on them, my Guess would be one of the World Wars. More than like, World War 1. But, what marks him as being even older than that is the gun on his hip. A gun, mind you, that has a flared end. Much like (albeit cartoony) flintlock guns.

[@eternalairhead2523]

I love how Trans still posts theories on old Transformers movies. It just shows for badly Michael Bay made his movies... Anyways, amazing work on the video like always!

[@Theorymus]

Thanks man, someone had to do it👍

[@davidvasquez08]

How exactly? Because there’s no G1 designs? I completely understand lack of fluidity

[@eternalairhead2523]

@@davidvasquez08 I will admit, they aren't completely bad. They made Transformers a bit more different the way I saw Transformers all together. First, the timeline has huge gaps between them. Second, Way to many explosions, and other effects to the point where I couldn't tell where or what things were going on some of the time. Third, the Bayverse focused on the humans most of the time. Take the Last Knight for example... The female character was the only one who could use the staff besides Quintessa herself. Most of the times the movies plot was based around the human characters, making it feel like Humans with giant robots following them around... There were more things I could keep on going for a while.

[@davidvasquez08]

@@eternalairhead2523 wasn’t Transformers always revolved around humans

[@eternalairhead2523]

@@davidvasquez08 No. It's Transformers not humans lol

[@chrisreading9868]

Great video as always. I need to know more about them! Though not in line with the traditional seekers, these bayverse seekers seem so interesting, I want more. I'd love to see different seekers from different parts of the world, like maybe a German one that was a Panzer tank or an Italian one that was a Lamborghini tractor, that'd be funny. Anyway, I enjoyed this video, keep up the great work.

[@Theorymus]

🤟

[@SirBroccolingtonIII]

I like them because they actually live up to their name. The original seekers were cool and sqawned some of my favourite characters in the franchise, but the term "seekers" was rather ill fitting since they're a military group and not actually seeking anything.

[@goodlife7947]

I have a new idea for a video "How Was Sideways Still Alive After The Starter Scene of T-2"

[@goodlife7947]

Thank you so much for hearting my comment because I have been wondering that for a while and for someone to actually see it and it being the creator is super cool thank you

[@humansoup7960]

Love this vids keep going you are so close to 100,000

[@Theorymus]

Thx man