How Speech Hacking Makes You A Better Singer

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TransVoiceLessons

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@bjorksmom3028
@bjorksmom3028 3 жыл бұрын
voice training is one of the only things that brings me joy as im a minor and i live in a totally unsupportive environment :( thank u so much for providing all this information free of charge i never thought my voice could sound so clear and feminine
@zed739
@zed739 3 жыл бұрын
Ngl, I started to follow these videos in order to practice feminizing my voice, but it took about two videos before I realized that it was having a stark impact on my singing ability. It's really cool that you decided to make a video to address this specifically but I've already been using this channel as a singing coach for months!
@TransVoiceLessons
@TransVoiceLessons 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much! Keep up the great work vocally. :)
@bananaqigong
@bananaqigong 3 жыл бұрын
So far, just watching 4 of your videos has blown my mind on things I didn't know, and giving names to things I was already doing. I have a pretty deep masculine voice, and a metal growl that shakes the foundations of the underworld, but after a few minutes of practice with your videos, I'm doing noticeably the best job I have ever done singing along with Olivia Newton John. You've picked up a new subscriber here, and thank you so much, I absolutely love you. 💚
@Karirawri
@Karirawri 3 жыл бұрын
This is great, i even tend to use singing as practice
@TheBird..
@TheBird.. 3 жыл бұрын
Yo same!
@lunadyke6873
@lunadyke6873 3 жыл бұрын
Same
@samreiss3741
@samreiss3741 2 жыл бұрын
YES. The more I work on speech, the more singers I find myself relating to and wanting to get better at emulating, and the more I work on singing in a higher range, the more I'm stabilizing my voice to have a more expressive authentic speaking voice! Thank you for the daily inspiration beautiful!!
@ItIsLuna
@ItIsLuna 3 жыл бұрын
I’m starting my transition this summer and I can tell I’ll be here a lot, so thanks in advance!
@ilBaccello
@ilBaccello 3 жыл бұрын
As a singing learner, I'd love a tutorial video on R2 in your teaching style :-) and yes I do struggle singing the ee vowel in full voice past D4...
@TransVoiceLessons
@TransVoiceLessons 3 жыл бұрын
R2 and articulatory behavior is coming up on my list of vids to make :3
@Potatointhehood
@Potatointhehood 3 жыл бұрын
@@TransVoiceLessons :333333
@SV_Try_Magic
@SV_Try_Magic 3 жыл бұрын
I just went to a piano bar and had a really nice time singing along with the rest of the girls. The thing I need the most help with is the volume. I still slip up sometimes and fall back into my lower register too... Staying conscious of it is hard.
@kerycktotebag8164
@kerycktotebag8164 3 жыл бұрын
The actions and the theory, as you lay them out, were the only way i could understand how to improve my singing when i hit a wall with it. The implied, indirect language used to describe anything other than pitch-which is commonplace in pedagogy-made no sense to me and had no consistency outside of shared metaphors.
@kurokuma2658
@kurokuma2658 3 жыл бұрын
You explain it so well! Those confusing words and concepts from the singing world suddenly become so clear and comprehensible now. Thank you so much.
@apeirogon9289
@apeirogon9289 3 жыл бұрын
Can confirm that her wisdom if followed does indeed make you a better singer and a better vocal entity all round!
@NeaAinsworth
@NeaAinsworth 3 жыл бұрын
My eternal thanks😍 for giving me back the ability to sing, using your vocal exercises to strengthen my broken voice, I'm tone deaf so I need to feel the resonance to sing. Now I can again. Again my eternal thanks.
@useful2864
@useful2864 3 жыл бұрын
You seem professional with the way you explain these details.
@lexplay4444
@lexplay4444 3 жыл бұрын
If I take this voice practices seriously, can I still keep my masculine voice? cuz I have deep voice, I just want to make my voice flexible....
@Chloe_Fatecraft
@Chloe_Fatecraft 3 жыл бұрын
Yes! Like she says on the video, your vocal range will only expand! You'll reach higher highs and lower lows.
@NzUddin
@NzUddin 3 жыл бұрын
Absolutely
@filakyle3663
@filakyle3663 3 жыл бұрын
Yes you can have both voices. Just practice both. You will get unstopeable man with it.
@TransVoiceLessons
@TransVoiceLessons 3 жыл бұрын
Yep! You can preserve both if you don't avoid one or the other.
@boojablegoogle1245
@boojablegoogle1245 3 жыл бұрын
SAME HERE OMG I FELT SO ALONE IS THAT UNTIL NOW I WANT BOTH A FEMALE AND MALE VOICE
@icethea9352
@icethea9352 3 жыл бұрын
Your content is scarily amazing. Positively and... critically. in the way that it gets so complicated with beautifully professional words for describing the voice, ("oral cavity"=mouth?) sometimes I really miss some more demonstrations and examples for the sake of easier and simpler understanding. 😊 What you do and describe though is absolutely amazing though! ❤️ Thank you for that.
@filakyle3663
@filakyle3663 3 жыл бұрын
I think my singing voice has dramaticaly improved since I starter "hacking" my voice with voice feminisation excercises. I recomed this a lot. I am still in a lot of work and far from perfect. After starting fem excercises, my singing ability actualy.went down. But i think it is becouse with fem singing comes big change in your vocal areas and you actualy sometimes feel like starting learn singing for very first time, how ever good my male singing was. And people were doing fun of my singing a looot. But it maybe be just me... But now. I have never been able to product "listenable" singels with my male voice and also fem voices. And now i can. Trolling my friends with it or just enjoying it :))) Even making impression of various fem singers now i try. But this level is far from perfect yet. I am just mostly happy be able to sing female kind of natural sound i am still looking for and beeing identified as a woman... A huge shouth out to your help Zee, love you, your big fun. (i am male born with baritone kind of voice. After follow fem voice excercises and a lot of singing tutorials and practice and theory about voice... I am now able to sing bass, baritone, tenor, and female voices, doing variety of sounds like a beatbox too. I was singign from childhood. But never i have been so far if it was not for voice feminisation stuff. It is exactly, the hacking :)))
@amyashlyn9293
@amyashlyn9293 3 жыл бұрын
Wonderful video, so relevant to me cuz I love singing so much. The voice hacks I've learned from you have hugely expanded my singing capacity. I now love singing in soprano range. Gotta say, tho, im so jealous of your amazingly bright R1. I keep working at it, but so far I'm a long way from getting those higher partials to ring like you do. I'm looking forward to your follow-up "action" video. Thx so much
@loisjones4296
@loisjones4296 3 жыл бұрын
Even just focusing on raising the larynx has made some parts of rock songs, primary 70’s prog rock more accessible. I would have called myself a baritone before, but I don’t know anymore. I have found some of Sharon Van Etten’s stuff more accessible too and also Gracie Slick (just White Rabbit and only just barely!) so yeah, for sure, vocal feminization practice as you are teaching it has already made a difference. Working on feeling and retracting the false cords is really beneficial too!...oh and by the way, your getting stunning!
@GrizzliusMaximus
@GrizzliusMaximus 3 жыл бұрын
Hello! I noticed in your other videos that you have a hard time sounding like how you used to 5-6 years ago. I'm a sucker for duet songs and I like singing both the male and female parts. Basically, I want to have a feminine voice without losing the male voice I already have. Is this possible?
@mightbeafrog
@mightbeafrog Жыл бұрын
These videos are extremely helpful, even just having words to put to things I was doing anyway helps to make changes intentional. And all the rest of course. Singing better is definitely a bonus, thinking about the different aspects of voice when trying to emulate singers or even when just hearing voices in the wild is extremely interesting and kind of fun, trying to work out which aspects of their voice are working in what way to create their sound
@AMR_Krissy
@AMR_Krissy 3 жыл бұрын
I wish I was aware what i was doing wrong. I can sometime sound feminine in VERY specific situations but i cant hold onto it and go any further. Its kind of frustrating. These videos are helpful though. I really appreciate your efforts. 💙
@elise3455
@elise3455 3 жыл бұрын
How about the other way around; Can you feminize your speaking voice by singing? I find it so much more enjoyable to try to sing feminine, but I'm not sure if actually affects my speaking voice. Thanks! ❤
@hazelpedemonte4464
@hazelpedemonte4464 3 жыл бұрын
I'd also like to know this - trying to voice train by just talking makes me really dysphoric, but singing doesn't make me feel as bad, and I'd love to do that.
@noaccount4
@noaccount4 3 жыл бұрын
That's real neato. Spotted the bad cut too lmao. It'd be helpful to link vocal exercises to help modulate R1 & R2 in these really informative videos for lazy people to easily find. Otherwise great vid, actually learned a lot from it
@shonen84
@shonen84 3 жыл бұрын
On a previous video, I commented how many of your concepts of R1 explained a lot of my vocal qualities and technical difficulties. I’ve been trying out vocal feminization, with limited success - I’ve been struggling honestly. However - R1 awareness *hugely* increased my control over my singing voice! I’ve been able to breathe and articulate better, reach wider registers more comfortably, and switch to and from falsetto much more fluently. Everything simply sounds better as well. Thank you so much for everything you do, it has a wonderful impact on so many aspects, as you summarized in your conclusion. Thank you thank you thank you!!
@robertsyrett1992
@robertsyrett1992 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the bandcamp link. Honestly I have always wondered about the synths behind you.
@RoosKohn
@RoosKohn 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you are my inspirational star. You are the best ❤️
@AewinDoftheNightfall
@AewinDoftheNightfall 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Z, sorry if this is unrelated, but do you still have voice coaching open, or does your website redirect mail to you? I sent you an email through the website maybe 3 weeks ago and I'm not sure if it ever came through. Tldr; just started my HRT but I have no idea where to start with my voice. Thank you
@toohollywood8825
@toohollywood8825 3 жыл бұрын
Can you plz do more videos about singing please this is my dream🥺 and I don’t want my dream to be impossible just because of my voice.luv u💕
@rohiogerv22
@rohiogerv22 3 жыл бұрын
This is a great video but also, I checked the Bandcamp and Eurybia is really freakin' good. Powerful stuff all around.
@inthefadeproductions
@inthefadeproductions 3 жыл бұрын
Finding your voice is what it's all about. It feels strange to listen to your voice in recording. It feels like you are different person, like you just don't hear your own voice and it makes you feel very weird.
@kaylasilverfox473
@kaylasilverfox473 3 жыл бұрын
I like how you got the props now
@lonesoldier33
@lonesoldier33 Жыл бұрын
8:21 I almost thought you were going for the high note in Minnie Riperton's Lovin' You
@PetraBrown
@PetraBrown 7 ай бұрын
I enjoy twiddling with my hair, Petra xxx😊
@filakyle3663
@filakyle3663 3 жыл бұрын
Zee, i have a question please. A lot of woman singer couches says to me to learn lower my adams apple. Now that is contradict to fem transvoice technique to place my R1 higher. It is mostly at clasical school singing or opera in the most... How do you deal with it please?
@tahmeepetersen5027
@tahmeepetersen5027 3 жыл бұрын
putting this here since this is the most recent video. I have a question for you: based on yourself and any students you've had in the past, how long would you say is the average time to get to a point where your voice is "naturally" the new behaviour? how long before it becomes difficult to speak in the old voice? Would having 1-3 days off per month speaking in the new voice (cuz i dont wanna cause any arguments with my mom) disrupt the behaviour change significantly? Also: how do you learn to control the larynx? I still can't figure out how to lift the larynx on its own save for swallowing. Thank you so much for your input, I'm an avid follower of this channel.
@jancokman5420
@jancokman5420 3 жыл бұрын
Wowww so beautifulll😍i love youu. I can't stop my eyes always look at youu and your voice is so beautiful too😘
@AtlanticSiren
@AtlanticSiren 3 жыл бұрын
Do you have any exercises to relieve muscle tension dysphonia? It’s preventing me from not only singing but altering my speaking voice.
@TransVoiceLessons
@TransVoiceLessons 3 жыл бұрын
Yes definitely. I'm on a mobile device and traveling atm but I think a series on vocal health would be great. The video I made on false fold control and thinness could help with mtd. I'll try to do some more specific vocal health content in the future
@AtlanticSiren
@AtlanticSiren 3 жыл бұрын
@@TransVoiceLessons Thank you so much!! I was also wondering if you do private lessons? There’s a couple of things that I don’t fully comprehend about the R1.
@DayspringDetectiveAgency
@DayspringDetectiveAgency 3 жыл бұрын
I watch these lessons a lot just to get a lighter voice, but after thinking on it, I really have to ask where you got your FFS done at. I was hoping in a few years I'd be able to do the same, but I don't want to go somewhere that permanently jacks up my beautiful face, you know?
@TransVoiceLessons
@TransVoiceLessons 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Glad to help. My ffs was done by Dr Keojampa. He's great.
@sarahszabo4323
@sarahszabo4323 3 жыл бұрын
Are the transition audio available for download, the one @ 11:00 was wonderful IMO.
@TransVoiceLessons
@TransVoiceLessons 3 жыл бұрын
They aren't but now that you mention it I'll upload to them patreon this week!
@kimYeonyuu
@kimYeonyuu Жыл бұрын
0:36 Voice Alteration (2 Primary Layers) 6:29 8:10 13:18 Intuitive 눈치 Connections
@PetraBrown
@PetraBrown 7 ай бұрын
I sometimes watch tv and film, I notice by sound that men are typically chosen who have deep, thickish sounds and ladies have sweeter tones, Some of us who are feminised have a sort of quite sweet sound, less typical of kind, Petra-B xxx ❤
@blythebea808
@blythebea808 3 жыл бұрын
You are so inspiring~!
@arbaux
@arbaux 3 жыл бұрын
OK so Im mtf trans before hrt and can i still singing bass and train my voice to sound like woman, or shoud i stop singing for while?
@RiverFallsMinistries
@RiverFallsMinistries 6 ай бұрын
I've been feminizing my voice since last year. Before I changed my voice I was a low bass. I love singing but can only find a few female songs that I can comfortably hit. If I keep practicing can I get higher, or will I need to take more drastic measures. I'm kinda getting a little discouraged that I won't be able to feminize my singing voice like I can my speaking voice.
@zestzonertheoblivious5828
@zestzonertheoblivious5828 2 жыл бұрын
Question: I worked my butt off changing my resonance I can no longer sing bellow a E3 but I can't sing an F4 without switching to fauseto and I can go to F5 in my fauseto. How can I sing up to an F5 in my modal voice? Also how can I exspand my voice upwords to an E6? The cis say it's impossable unless you never went though male puberty. I know you will say diffrent tho.
@brianscottpettigrew
@brianscottpettigrew 3 жыл бұрын
I still think you a kind person
@Swenthorian
@Swenthorian 3 жыл бұрын
Hey there! How long is the current waitlist? I emailed a few times in August last year, and haven't heard back. Is it really *that* backed-up?
@TransVoiceLessons
@TransVoiceLessons 3 жыл бұрын
Yea :( I've been working at full capacity every week and hired a new teacher as well. There are probably 3,500 people in the waiting pool. I'm launching group classes and open population webinars soon though which will help a lot. Sorry! Since you emailed you'll be on the mailing list.
@Swenthorian
@Swenthorian 3 жыл бұрын
@@TransVoiceLessons Wow. I'm glad business is doing so well! Unfortunate that there is only one of you (or, well, two now, I suppose). Do you have a rough idea of when August emailers might expect to be reached? (Mostly I was just afraid my emails didn't go through, since I use an uncommon domain (@Linux.com) instead of eg @Gmail.com.)
@LadyAniDraws
@LadyAniDraws 3 жыл бұрын
My voice tends to crack, get raspy and lose stamina while raising my larynx while singing/speaking in a high R1. Any exercises or ways I can build up stamina to sing louder?
@PrincessMomo
@PrincessMomo 3 жыл бұрын
when did you first start hormones? because i feel like im wasting time not making any progress with getting them, but im still only 15... i want them as soon as possible because of the terrible dysphoria i have rn and i know that hormones are more effective at younger ages.
@TransVoiceLessons
@TransVoiceLessons 3 жыл бұрын
I started hormones at 24.
@Pinkoflove3
@Pinkoflove3 3 жыл бұрын
Can you help guide me with what video to start with. I just love the women’s voice that is on Zoya meditation on you tube. It is so calming.
@lmmnil4574
@lmmnil4574 3 жыл бұрын
was just about to skip to next vid whn you promoted your music. "if youre into that kind of stuff" .................. im speechless. what was this video about again? right-.. singing. Ok ye point proven , but also.. .. holy ... im broken. its so damn good. reconsidering life choices kinda taken aback by this experience. 'into that kinda stuff' is putting it mildly. Microtonal angel indeed. just plowed through Eurybia and WXTCHCRXFT in one swoop. what plane of existence did you drop in from? is it possible to learn this power?
@saltedbleach4512
@saltedbleach4512 2 жыл бұрын
just be a little more open minded, it will manifest your spirits queen
@industrialcomplex1434
@industrialcomplex1434 3 жыл бұрын
POV: Happy (╹◡╹)♡
@kurokuma2658
@kurokuma2658 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly how I am feeling now :) Z brings us pure happiness.
@banumkh4215
@banumkh4215 3 жыл бұрын
I have a big problem with vocal fry , if i rid of vocal fry my voice will be kinda feminine please do you have any tips amelia ?
@snowmemory7498
@snowmemory7498 3 жыл бұрын
So can we trans-females raise our modal vocal range to the cis-female place?
@gillianomotoso328
@gillianomotoso328 3 жыл бұрын
Yes.
@EliTheGleason
@EliTheGleason 3 жыл бұрын
God I love the intro music
@samir5757
@samir5757 3 жыл бұрын
Hi, I really can't locate what you call R1
@Slackjaw
@Slackjaw 3 жыл бұрын
You're amazing
@rylie8989
@rylie8989 3 жыл бұрын
Would vocal training let you learn to like, get your singing voice to sound like a cis woman's singing voice? Like with speaking, I know lots of people over focus on pitch when resonance is more important, but in singing, voice type is presented as even more of a like, pitch based and unchangeable thing. And they say male voices can only ever be bass, baritone, or tenor, unless they're a countertenor (who actually just sing in falsetto), or very rare exceptions like John Holiday who sing high in their modal voice. But is all that because of singers not training resonance control? Would resonance training allow you to sing with the vocal qualities and pitch range of different voice types than your natural one?
@woomy8971
@woomy8971 3 жыл бұрын
Check out her "singing to you" video; it's definitely possible!!
@rylie8989
@rylie8989 3 жыл бұрын
@@woomy8971 I had listened to that video, but I'm not at all musically knowledgeable (I know lots of people who ask singing related questions are people who are already trained singers wondering if vocal training will mess with it. but personally I've only ever sung in the car lol) so while I definitely think it sounded beautiful and definitely is completely passing, I don't really have the ear to tell like what kind of pitch range was being sung, or like what parts were or weren't falsetto or anything technical like that
@gillianomotoso328
@gillianomotoso328 3 жыл бұрын
If that were the case, no male could belt a G5. And yet there was Jeff Buckley. And there is Brendon Urie and Adam Lambert. There’s a lot more to the story. There are men who can sing soprano arias - and even thin out their voices to create a feminine sound. Hardly is anything lost for us. If Nick Pitera can exist, so can we.
@gillianomotoso328
@gillianomotoso328 3 жыл бұрын
(I am also trans by the way. Give my channel a look for proof in the pudding.)
@mycharredrose
@mycharredrose 3 жыл бұрын
Do you offer voice lessons?
@gillianomotoso328
@gillianomotoso328 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, she does.
@lilithgaming5311
@lilithgaming5311 3 жыл бұрын
Does speech hacking also work for normal speaking not just for singing?
@totsukawaii
@totsukawaii 3 жыл бұрын
Does having an underbite inhibit my R2 - oral cavity?
@jaxenhayes5910
@jaxenhayes5910 3 жыл бұрын
Can I use these methods to make my voice deeper too? So when I need to sound like a man I can with a deep voice?
@Lunadoeslotsofstuff
@Lunadoeslotsofstuff 3 жыл бұрын
Nice
@Potatointhehood
@Potatointhehood 3 жыл бұрын
cutie is back 3:
@primavirae
@primavirae 3 жыл бұрын
i’m not trans but i want my voice to sound more feminine (i’m a cis woman). the vocal pitch analyzer says that my voice is androgynous with a masculine tone, and i want to change that. it’s so embarrassing for me to speak out loud sometimes. it makes me so insecure about myself. i want to do these exercises but are changes going to appear by themselves in my voice over time, or do i need to force myself to speak that way so i start hearing changes? does anyone know?
@Lenyberry
@Lenyberry 3 жыл бұрын
hey, I'm a natural alto who used to get really embarrassed about how low my speaking voice was after puberty did its thing (going from a kid-soprano to a true alto is a bit of an adjustment that no one thinks to prepare us for the way AMAB kids get told to expect their voices to drop! I know true altos like me aren't actually hugely common but, it would've been nice to have SOME kinda heads up that "voice drop" of sorts can hit with an estrogen puberty too, it's definitely less dramatic but was distinctly perturbing when it happened to me, nonetheless). I didn't change it intentionally like this but I did sort of slowly try to mimic higher-pitched, more feminine ways of speaking, and it did overall change my habitual speaking voice over time. And now I'm working on re-expanding my low range because I want the option in my vocal repertoire (got here on a tangent from throat singing techniques because I'm all about maxing out my vocal versatility). Anyway, once you have the ability to make the speaking tones you want, it's just a matter of deliberately them enough that they become habitual instead of something you have to think about doing. I did it fairly subconsciously just because I wanted to sound more "like other girls" and fit in, I didn't deliberately do any vocal exercises about it, so I'd say you'll have to speak in the voice you want to make habitual a lot so that it does become your habitual speaking voice.
@arandomnerd1898
@arandomnerd1898 3 жыл бұрын
What's the song in the beginning?
@arandomnerd1898
@arandomnerd1898 3 жыл бұрын
Also great video, very helpful!
@TransVoiceLessons
@TransVoiceLessons 3 жыл бұрын
An unreleased neo soul / pop tune I wrote 2 years ago :) called Astraldove
@arandomnerd1898
@arandomnerd1898 3 жыл бұрын
@@TransVoiceLessons Please release it!! I love hearing it in every video :3
@sigridrunarsdottir263
@sigridrunarsdottir263 3 жыл бұрын
Do you know how to masculinize voice for trans guys pre testosterone?
@heyheyitshaze
@heyheyitshaze 3 жыл бұрын
Would a tracheal shave surgery have a profound effect on my vocal range (worsening it)? I'm writing thing early on in the video lol sorry if this has already been answer
@AnnaTheFallMaiden
@AnnaTheFallMaiden 3 жыл бұрын
afaik it doesn't, since you're cutting away from the outside, while all the sound stuff is on the inside of the larynx
@heyheyitshaze
@heyheyitshaze 3 жыл бұрын
@@AnnaTheFallMaiden I've heard that it can weaken the voice. Oh well
@Jessafur
@Jessafur 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, it can shorten your range. It can also damage it in a manner that may prevent singing altogether. I'd really suggest putting a few years into voice training before going for surgery
@amberb9701
@amberb9701 3 жыл бұрын
@@Jessafur The original post was about a trachea shave (Adam's Apple "removal"). Not voice feminization surgery.
@Jessafur
@Jessafur 3 жыл бұрын
@@amberb9701 my bad! that still has a risk of damaging your voice though, so most of what I said is still applicable.
@Dani77770
@Dani77770 3 жыл бұрын
To keep my Adam’s apple up, I do a Kermit voice, but then I can’t speak clearly again unless my Adam’s apple falls down again
@Dani77770
@Dani77770 3 жыл бұрын
Is there any way to fix this?
@coolroxas
@coolroxas 3 жыл бұрын
That sounds like working on your r2 for articulation
@-valkyrie-00
@-valkyrie-00 3 жыл бұрын
I can't do this no matter how much I try
@darrogante
@darrogante 3 жыл бұрын
I’d like to book voice lessons with you and I’ve been trying to email you.
@lailux
@lailux 3 жыл бұрын
Your theory is theory. Although you are a kind person. Give some examples.
@scalamasterelectros3204
@scalamasterelectros3204 Жыл бұрын
This trans wooman is more femenin the most real wooman
@raquelchicajazz121
@raquelchicajazz121 3 жыл бұрын
Hi, I would like to take voice feminization from you, i sent you an email but I'm not sure if you got it. We have emailed about it before and then contacted via skype but I somehow lost the email. Hope to hear back from you!
@henniandreasson1449
@henniandreasson1449 3 жыл бұрын
Is your website live? Do you still offer lessons? Just got misgendered AGAIN over the phone....
@davidhardinge1214
@davidhardinge1214 3 жыл бұрын
Bollocks!
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