Joe Budden's Crazy Opinion on My King Von Documentary

PATREON - / traploreross

[@TheGhostOfFredZeppelin]

Von: "I'm a killer" Everyone: "Fuck yeah he's so gangsta!" Ross: "Von's a killer" Everyone: "Fuck you stop defaming a dead person, he was a good guy and even smiled at a McDonald's once!"

[@georgejackson5504]

That's not it.... Homez... A serial killer kill for no reason.... No bc of a Gang War.... Fbg duck made a song dissing this man's dead friends.... It's crazy when soldiers kill kids it's patriotic but when black ppl in Ghettos kill each other they're serial killers. 😂

[@poisonthewell00]

ForealZ

[@orlandoyero7151]

Von was always smiling literally

[@BoePayne]

Wyte catholic priests treating little WyteBoys like Gay Adult Film Stars but y'all trolling the black community 😅😅

[@romelegend2334]

The biggest issue is he wasn't a serial killer.

[@truboss9470]

Von showing up in KI’s documentary was the confirmation I needed. “Serial killers like to follow reactions to their crimes. The Riddler might not be able to resist showing up to the funeral”- Bruce Wayne🤣🤣

[@dominicthelordkabinga]

When I saw the dude holding his knees like an innocent child I couldn’t believe it. This dude and his friend allegedly beat the girl up physically, then years later kills her? That’s messed up.

[@Nasnolimit]

@@dominicthelordkabinga bro you know KI was a gang member involved in murders..

[@truboss9470]

@@Nasnolimit I think KI ass woulda done the same if it was reversed them mfs crazy asl😭

[@somebodycomegether770]

facts. if thats not the most serial killer shit idk what is

[@ddior1591]

@@dominicthelordkabinga KI killed one of vons he just got back

[@danielradd111]

This dude put in more work than the police force 😆

[@flapdrol75]

Actually, the police probably got all that shit somewhere on paper as well. The difference is , TLR doesnt have to convict these killers so all the evidence he took to link cases would not hold up in court.

[@FirstnameLastname-wx9oo]

why would the cops arrest him? so the city can riot and scream police brutality bc von said the handcuffs were too tight? the situation groups like blm have created leave the only option being to let violent criminals "do their thangy thang" unless they want to be either arrested themselves, fired and ruined, or left to clean up the city when every storefront is smashed and every shelf cleared out

[@trillaweirdo9460]

Fr , fed ass boy 🤦🏽‍♂️

[@steffdagreat7]

How when the same evidence Ross has they have. Von left it all in the music and on twitter😂

[@marcusjones9160]

Y'all really believe anything

[@rancewhite9312]

I’ve never heard a single person say “I wonder what Joe Budden thinks about this issue?” but he gon let you know regardless. Lol

[@ZYaKnoe249]

Well he has a successful and popular podcast so clearly people do..

[@cd5433]

Lol WHERES JA?!?!

[@RockandrollNegro]

Joe Budden hasn't been relevant since... hmm... ever. I forgot he existed.

[@AbstractDigitalDNB]

@@RockandrollNegro lol and how much you earned last year fam ?

[@idonthavemonkey]

Great voice tho

[@kennethscott4997]

Von was a psychopath who didn't feel remorse for his bad acts, in the end he probably fell victim to his own hubris, believing that he was untouchable because he had gotten away with so much and even profited off it as well. It's a story that's been played out many times before...

[@dominicthelordkabinga]

Dude was allegedly killing people in different state. That sums him up.

[@IKEEPIT2playa86]

Lmao glad he gone

[@davruck1]

Zero convictions. Either the police are stupid or it’s all fantasy. Y’all believe anything

[@jeromeashley9972]

​@@IKEEPIT2playa86 why would you say that did he fck your girlfriend or kill one of your friends

[@stevecariggillio4139]

That's just most blacks people. Not enough brain power for empathy.

[@betonblack3621]

I watched the whole documentary at work over 3 days. You sir make some of the best docs.

[@YeahthoBarnes]

I’ve realized that sometimes these things get so normalized that we’re desensitized to it, then oddly enough try to defend it once it’s popularized in media. We’re doing this to ourselves. 💯

[@rogerlemus9301]

Very well put.

[@sydsilver4076]

I can't lie Ross, I was getting a little disappointed with the lack of uploading, but you really left me speechless with the von doc. Good shit man. Love from FL.

[@simplyswann9059]

The guy in the blue sweatshirt is so level-headed during this conversation, I loved all his points. It’s a lot of people who supported Von and didn’t really know who he was and it’s sad how easy a wolf can be in sheep’s clothing. I loved your documentary and feel like you should do this again when the opportunity is alive. I’m so glad I didn’t join the train of show support for him before and after he passed.

[@danielradd111]

Dude was a demon in disguise 🥸

[@whoisOldboy]

Did you see the whole video ? The guy in the blue sweatshirt said the most hypocrit stuff ever. "i never knew.... I have friends that are GD.... I never knew nothing. I did not even fully know what GD stands for. I tour with Durk. I know nothing, I would have never thought that anything could be real. He was just a great storyteller." What a joke. Either this guy has the brain capacity of a toaster or he is for whatever reason trying to make himself look stupid to da max.

[@garlandcbfw]

how are you black women and supporting this white men creating false information n context on black propel?

[@garlandcbfw]

people *

[@kujoqtaro7264]

Nah dude was a wolf in an im a wolf t-shirt.

[@spicytomango]

Ngl the more I listened to Von, I got the feeling that dude wasn't lying. That energy was too real. He wanted everyone to know how dangerous he was. It's hard to understand how the feds couldn't put together a solid case but a dude in the UK with nothing but the Internet connected all the dots. Insane fr fr

[@pjbpiano]

I’m certain they could put all the dots together. But putting all the dots and then proving it in court in front of a judge and lawyers are two different things.

[@ItsBrit]

They have a vested interest in continuing the gang wars, violence, and incarceration of those that grow up in such areas. Mote feaths, more beef, more shooters, a few more arrests,ore beef, more deaths and on an on it goes.

[@MissRory662]

They could put one together. They know it’s gone start a war. That’s why they waited til he passed to say who he killed.,the government been doing that for years

[@joe-for-the-king]

They probably knew & saw Von as doing their job for them. There was a serial killer killing homeless p3d0s on Skid Row, California (He had an interview on Soft White Underbelly), he confessed to the feds, they told him they KNEW exactly who he was & what he's doing, they let him carry on...

[@justinlast2lastharder749]

​@@pjbpiano Bingo. The Feds also don't work like a KZbinr can. They won't even Arrest until they have 100% Proof. That is why they have a 97% Conviction Rate.

[@samhatch1657]

“That could be Von lyric” lol

[@TheRealNativeSun]

Imagine being a part of Vons true inner circle and seeing the excitement and joy on Vons face as he talks about killing. That’s some sick shit if you think about it. Damn.

[@georgejackson5504]

Imagine seeing him break down crying when his best friend got killed... STFU bc if someone was to kill your loved ones you'd want 10 of theirs in return

[@jeffreycyril4173]

No 🧢 the nigga was jumped on badly almost killed by brick fbg ducks brother they humiliated him how the hell can you fight 6 pipo older than you then he lost 6 members that means 6 funerals straight up for him that’s why you hear him say in crazy story “ IF Y’’ALL LOSE ONE MORE THATS 6 TO 24” no is talking about how the oops dissed and troll con too with odee and t Roy and the rest just because he got big and was really doing what this other rappers lie about turns him to a serial killer this hip hop is some bullshit they praise gangster rap but when a nigga came out blew up and he was about it now his a serial killer fuck that if some one did that to me taking 6 of mine there whole hood from house to house would get it

[@RJLaFlamaBlanca]

Not when u mask it with benzos and addies infused with crystal…up four dayzz…feed em bars…sip lean….don’t remember a thing…..for real project psyop at project_____insert wherever follow the money brah

[@blueberry7752]

You missed in Zodiacs letters he said “I did my thing!!”. Sounds just like a Von tweet “I did my thingy thang”.

[@empressbreeze]

Wow. That’s wild.

[@johnbwhobiggerthenhe8581]

Nah that’s crazy 😂😂 nigga loved saying “my thingy thing” 😂

[@raya2569]

Melissa is so bias she's being disingenuous, that's why people criticize us in the black community for stuff like this we pick and choose based on our feelings, likes and dislikes

[@amimi92]

Melissa had no idea what she was talking about lol

[@deagle2yadome696]

yes this is what people mean when they say the BC “acts off emotion” instead of logic. good on you for noticing it you are already one step ahead 👍👍

[@TywinLannister666]

That's just humans in general, my guy. What you are talking about is basically the variable inherent biases that we all have in some for or fashion.

[@blackmatter4611]

They do the same with Christopher Columbus

[@brat369]

she's the only one with sense speaking facts, you cant just put a serial killer label on someone else based off tweets. if that's that then every single gang member a serial killer. and as a black person from the community why siding with a middle class yt kid from England lying on a black man for money and clout, who knows nothing about how the street works and what our struggles are in the community. you seem to hate yourself which is sad.

[@zap7026]

Almost every hood with a gang has active shooters, Von was just successful in the music industry. That's what earned him this title. Your docu was great!

[@caughtoncamera27]

Exactly there's plenty of king von to 2pac. They just not famous.

[@shun8733]

Nawl, it’s killers in every hood, but not on this extent lmao , von was throwed, nd it’s rumored he even did some shii in atl that no one knows or talks about

[@belowaveragegamer95]

@DoubleR it’s definitely many

[@Raptify-sh4kt]

​@DoubleR5800 The other Von comes close (KTS). Dude was only 21 and seemed already tired of life.

[@sleeptyte]

@@belowaveragegamer95 fr

[@TrinTheGoddess]

Lovelyti gave you props for making a masterpiece of a documentary! I agree.

[@kingmikesworld307]

Some people just don't understand 😴 they think you have to be like Michael Meyers to be a serial killer but most serial killers lived normal lives until they got caught up. King Von is the coolest serial killer in American history but a serial killer non the less

[@charlie1832]

Look at BTK ,dude got away with it for like 30 years

[@Goodnightsrest]

@Jellyy Bean Dexter better

[@youtubehashandlesnow]

What makes him cool? His rap was all about him killing ..his life was all about him killing ..you must think killing is cool if you think he's cool because that's who he was

[@lacydoe]

@@youtubehashandlesnowexactly and that’s one of the issues. Folks like dude think the stuff they talk about in these songs are “cool”. It’s sad how easily we are fooled when you add rhyming words and a beat.

[@kingmikesworld307]

@@youtubehashandlesnow what makes him cool is his charm. He was a legit serial killer, admitted to it and everything and some people are still like Nah. That's charm and charisma but I don't expect you to understand with your lame ass

[@chanellerogers8862]

“Joseph Budden”💀💀💀💀🤣🤣🤣🤣 I like this dude man, I first watched the Jacksonville joint, I am a subscriber now after this. This documentary was better than some HBO ish I’ve seen. Period. Keep pushing dude👌🏾👌🏾💪🏿💪🏿👏🏾👏🏾

[@yvettehayes324]

Did it proof with solid facts on at least one committed murder? Did it provide police paperwork and they findings? Did it include a personal witness? Because I believe songs are made from passion (most definitely) With all the killings that Did take place in Chicago I wouldn't ne shocked if he did commit one. Sure there are many that grew up there and haven't killed no one but can tell you a story about a death happening.

[@chanellerogers8862]

@@yvettehayes324 his lyrics tell the stories! His social media posts! One thing about gang culture? No one wants someone else taking credit bc it was for a reason right? Anyone disputing his alleged body count? Serial killer? Exact definition? No. BUT, a disturbing young man who was a cancer and spreading hate and killing and sowed what he reaped? Yes. Many blessings to you!

[@Pop_Richie]

His Mo3 video was better than both! Imo, but yeah I subscribed also! 😂💯🤙🏾💪🏾

[@yvettehayes324]

@@chanellerogers8862 what was said in his social media posts? Did you get the death threats that came for him? He shouldn't have let them kill him! He knew they wanted to! All that "he wasn't what the world needed" is A Bunch of BS! He paved away he best knew. If he did walk the streets of that War in Chicago he made it out just for those like his self could take him down. I ran across the Kumbi (another Chicago deceased Natives) video tapes. I really think Von was most hated for how his flow was raising and got his family out!

[@yvettehayes324]

@@chanellerogers8862 The name spell of Kumbi is wrong and I would have to locate correct name. But just to say, "He wasn't in the street logic by himself!

[@Explosionman27]

I would more compare Von with someone like Dennis Raider or the Green River Killer. Von was an opportunity killer who targeted people he knew that the police could not or would not fully investigate, and then he left clues joking about his crimes, including the cereal pun. (Which Raider also did.) He seemed to enjoy the thought of people seeing him as a cold-blooded killer more than the actual commission of the crime, and would only pull back when he thought that the police were onto him.

[@uggggggghhhhh]

Bruh. BTK (Bind. Torture. Kill a.k.a Dennis Raider) liked torturing people (making him a sadist) and from an early age he tortured animals, tying them up and stuff... I have never seen anything about Von purposefully killing innocent people, innocent children or small animals. Btk Dressed in womens clothes secretly bc it aroused him, he took pictures of himself in womens underwear where he was in bondage (tied up) and he masturbated on the bodies of people he killed. One of his victims was a little girl, he hung her and touched himself as she died. He suffocated people because during his first kill, he realized it takes a long time to die from suffocation (he choked a mom, thought she was dead and moved on to choke her son and she woke up so he went back to her and killed her) and he enjoyed it. Dennis would stalk his victims before killing them. Von was just vindictive. I am against vigilantism and the death penalty so imo, killing anyone is wrong but I don't think Von was anywhere near as evil as BTK or The Green River Killer, who was convicted for killing 49 women but is suspected to have killed more than 90... Tbh, Im not convinced Von was even the person firing the gun in all the murders hes accused of committing so, imo, the act of killing wasnt important or necessary to him. Serial killers kill for their own psychological gratification, its like an addiction and they WANT/NEED to kill. They enjoy the act of killing but the difference between them and mobsters, gangsters, cartel members, etc is that the latter, kill for specific reasons like money, because they were told to do so by someone else, to uphold a code of values, rules, expectations, eliminate a rival, get rid of a witness, etc. To them, there is an intended purpose. Theyre not out to kill anyone they can get whos death will give them pleasure (any woman/man/child) they're out to kill a specific person for a specific reason. I would not condider a mass killer, a serial killer either. Technically, Von could be a serial killer but I personally dont believe so, he wasnt killing people just to kill people, otherwise he couldve gone out and shot at random people if he really enjoyed doing drive bys. There are plenty of gangsters that commit homicides their entire life and they are still not coined serial killers. If so, K.I is also a serial killer. I'm not trying to defend Von so I just want ro make it clear that I think he was am awful person and should have been in jail. All the bragging and disrespect he did was beyond cruel but that on its own doesn't make me think he should be labeled a serial killer. I'm open to others thoughts though, I think this entire situation is very interesting.

[@thecrow4597]

Not compatible at all. All warrior cultures take pride in their killing. Serial killers prey upon people they don't know just fir the fetish or murder alone. It is completely different. Von had interpersonal problems with all his victims which completely changes the nature of the crime

[@bazglsgw1208]

The only serial killer I’d compare Von to is Sammy The Bull (grass) who killed about 19 for his work. Von killed for revenge and for fun!

[@gunkmangeezy3741]

will you nerds stop acting like Von was killing innocents

[@Explosionman27]

@@gunkmangeezy3741 That sort of thinking is a big reason why so many murders in Chicago go unsolved.

[@inkmore9395]

Your documentation of Vons life was on point, eye opening and left me much more informed when I went back to listen to his music.. people will say what they want but they never sat down to do any of the research like you clearly did, it’s content just for them to comment on your work without doing any of the work…

[@kimjong699]

Joe isn’t as smart as he thinks he is. He pretty much a black Adam22

[@Benefits]

It's insane to me that Melissa can sit there and be so dismissive when there is so much factual evidence, literally from Von himself, about what he did. He wanted everyone to know what he was doing because he was addicted to not only murdering his enemies but flaunting and bragging about it constantly. Just look at all the interviews and Instagram live streams he did. He's constantly mentioning the people he murdered YEARS ago, way before he ever got famous for his music. It's all the man thought about day in and day out. But Melissa is like "nah! couldn't have been him!"

[@micxeymonday7290]

M4 don’t know king von ☠️ it’s nothing to say

[@FUEG0LE0N]

It’s like she was trying to clarify he’s not a serial killer specifically without watching the documentary. The manner, attitude, and fun with which Von did the killings is what makes him a serial killer. Being gang related cannot disqualify that angle.

[@furrybproductions]

But at the same time, what else is he gonna rap about? That shit is so traumatic would you be able to rap about anything else had you done what he did or had what happened to his friends happen to your friends? Doing what he did was probably the only thing that brought him peace. So sad.

[@Lifted001]

​@@furrybproductionshe loved to kill it had nothing to do with trauma. Yes living in a violent community is traumatic but people like Von are the ones who make it that way. The trauma excuse is a weakass cop-out

[@malgrizz]

I mean she’s the same person who defended Cardi B so I don’t expect much honestly from her

[@codywinkle3621]

People talk about serial killers as this or that but we just know about the worst ones.. your average serial killer doesn't ever get caught

[@mitijr2031]

According to who?

[@bazglsgw1208]

Then how do we know off so so many serial killers I could name 100!

[@tedbundy3366]

​@@bazglsgw1208 you're missing the point. If you can name 100 then think about 1000 that'll probably never get caught. I'd bet my life that there are more active unknown serial killers compared to known ones.

[@bazglsgw1208]

@@tedbundy3366 Well Ted that’s like Schrodinger’s serial killer where we will never know how many there are coz we cannot catch them all!

[@fraud1366]

🧢

[@kplovely9787]

Keep the Docs coming! It's appreciated by the right ppl. The ppl upset are probably part of the problem. This is an important conversation that needs to happen within the culture. FINALLY!👏🏾

[@RoxyReyes]

I think you did a great job on the documentary. It's really compelling. I love that your getting even more recognition because you deserve it. ❤

[@shvdwthamoor9028]

Am I the only one that got chills when he pulled up the zodiac killer's notes and that shxt sounded legit like a Von lyric?😭😭😭😭😭

[@SmokeNUFC]

That doc has caused massive waves hope your channel subs blow with all the hype your channel and docs are 🔥

[@JGRG07]

The fact that these ppl are 40+ and saying that Von is their favorite rapper is crazy

[@MojalefaTsotetsi]

Thats a trash comment. When MJ was a kid he had 40+ years old adults throwing ass at him.

[@TalkingToAWall]

Keep doing what you’re doing. Don’t let the ignorance deter you. 👍🏿

[@SKARFACEVIDEOS]

Ross's Thumbnail reactions always crack me up

[@kenrichard4528]

You did a great job ross on rhe king von documentary, im glad you brought light to this,keep up the good work, dont let them try to pull you down

[@finneganfollis695]

TLR just dropping mad vids rn

[@fjnemo]

Yeah he's not working on the docu anymore so he got time

[@ronnymesias7788]

Can never say he’s not putting in the work

[@Jay3603Dubb]

10:59 The ritual is that he had to tweet and leave clues. It’s pretty simple.

[@cd5433]

Yeah it’s called a signature . The one thing the perpetrator has to do every time to get the emotional satisfaction. The MO is just how they carry the killings out aka walkups at close range . Personal

[@michaelflanagan1185]

Realized that he was a narcissist and serial killer,at the point in your documentarys,, where he was on live after the guy cantgetright died and they were mocking him and his friends grieving... " Why you do this best friend? You just told me to pop over"and then they were laughing with the fans calling him cant get up.... If you look at Vons face, that's genuine happiness... Relishing not only their enemies dying, but also the innocent store clerk who was just sweeping up.

[@bazglsgw1208]

Your 100% right he was a serial killer in the profile of a mafia hitman like Sammy Gravado or Richard Kucklinski who were both serial killers!

[@AJGreen-ch3bz]

How tf is he a narcissist if he gave out 100k to his hood, I swear y’all fake psychologist just need to stfu

[@melkormorgothbauglir.4848]

Fuck Man what a guy it was one of those sooner or later things because without a doubt the way he moved he was gonna get shot and I'm starting to think it wasn't such a bad thing what happened to him because if he slept soundly at night with no remorse about the actions he committed then his fate might not be such a bad thing I mean even soldiers who went to war have remorse he was one of a kind but not in a good way he was so brash which is kinda what got him killed he wanted to fight the opps right then and there and then he got shot I remember that time in an interview when he almost snitched on himself and Durk gave him a look like not this place your gonna get us grabbed he just wanted to share with everyone his exploits which is crazy when his exploits are homocide, homocide and a bit more of homocide.

[@georgejackson5504]

How about you go listen to FBG ducks song Dead bitches ... Celebrating the deaths of his best friend and others

[@jeffreycyril4173]

What you mean they did the same thing to him and durk they killed nuski and went live buying a burger 🍔 calling it buski and spitting it on the trash 🗑️ they were all serial killers von happened to rap good, tell stories and had a different swag and he blew up there’s an interview when he said he never knew he wanted to rap he was trying to rob lil durk rap friends before he started rapping

[@MrCk1234567890]

TLR has the whole scene talking about him 💯

[@conniemarie8702]

It's your year, Ross 💪🏼♥️

[@zachweaver599]

Stephen mcdaniel is the one that killed his neighbor and started acting super weird while being interviewed by a news station at the same moment they found the body

[@Kingmookz]

JCS crawled so Ross could walk! “STEPHEN” - The Cop interrogating him 😂😂😂

[@ShesMajickal_]

Im so happy you bought up the topic we need to speak on. A yt man bold enough to do it. Kudos to you sire!

[@God_of_Destruction_Kakarot]

Part of my schooling was about criminal profiling and that girl is way off by saying that just because they were gang-related killings means the killer isn't a serial killer. Lol me referring to Von and some others as serial killers with a comment I left on one of your videos. Because I was astonished about how people just ignore the fact that they're doing what they're doing but when they died they act like they lost someone who was doing the opposite. I personally would never be lamenting the death of the Zodiac Killer so I won't for Von either. He was an interesting character none the less.

[@diowrld4118]

Well put Goku, well put.

[@maliksmith8778]

It’s like when R Kelly finally went to jail. The hip hop rnb world knew this man was a monster for decades and ppl defended him. If they like someone they will excuse all of the evil that they do king Von is a monster

[@flawlesslikeme3674]

i also have a similar story. i was a huge fan of von music. when he passed, i was legit upset. i was posting about it on social media, and going at anyone saying something bad about von. one of my friends was celebrating his death. mind you i’m all the way in philly. he apparently used to live on 63rd and has family there, and explained his side of the story to me. eye opening

[@edwinshmedwin]

The responses on your doc are just as entertaining as the doc itself. Again, you're good and did a great job my friend. Don't let all that hubbub enter your zone.. The serial killer aspect is absolutely true, by definition, but just not the typical methods as most serial killer operates. by definition he is a serial killer though 100%. i actually grew up 8 blocks away from dahmers grandmas house lol.. fun tidbit..

[@MotorCityMob]

Damm this video was so good! I didnt want it to end, wished it was longer..

[@DARYDARKO]

“My definition of a serial killer….” All makes sense now

[@cookiew7507]

You did a great job Trap congrats 🎉

[@richard7409]

Love you man. Doing the Lords work. That doc was one of the best videos I've ever watched on KZbin

[@ChillCosby1439]

@trap lore ross, bro you inspire me so much. You are proof that good journalism/journalist still exist. And every one is now noticing. I been a fan for a long time. Early days! Continue to do what you do. #JayZofJournalism #TLR

[@DreamSur13]

Yo great doc I watched the whole thing looking forward to your next project

[@ScottyByrd]

the fact people can't accept von is a cereal killer is insane lol he obviously gets off on being killer and wants to credit for his hits lol

[@littlegirlblue9829]

*serial

[@jbone3777]

He loved them lucky charms

[@christianbrown3881]

Yea he could fuck up some Frosted Flakes

[@Anarchistcowboy]

@@littlegirlblue9829 did you watch the doc? He meant what he said.

[@littlegirlblue9829]

@Anarchistcowboy 😂 of course I watched it, how dare you lol

[@josephashipala6249]

So glad I watched and downloaded the documentary before it got taken down

[@JayOneAlumni]

wait its gone?

[@josephashipala6249]

@@JayOneAlumni nope...Trap upload other one with KZbin guide line....

[@JayOneAlumni]

@@josephashipala6249 dope thanks

[@a.b.1246]

​@@josephashipala6249 the original one better?

[@gravedigga4real781]

​@@a.b.1246they the same basically new one just as good

[@DbpLukcy]

My guy traplore one of the best to ever do it💯🙌🏾

[@TheFeliciac]

Thank you for the documentary.

[@projectsmotors949]

"Doing hits alone, I don't need my man's with me" Basically saying I'm doing this for my self

[@ftmws293]

How did you interpret it like that? What he probably meant was that he wasn’t scared of killing people by himself and didn’t need backup.

[@elizabethandeldinkamberovi1929]

Joe Budden is that one old head uncle everyone has that knows more about current events then you do, then you realize he doesn't know wtf he's talking about but can't call him out cuz he'll argue to the death with you.

[@nickie7763]

Exactlyyyyyyy!

[@storminnorman3990]

Great great reporting‼️ Salute 👊🏿🤛🏾✊

[@michaelflanagan1185]

You made it clear that he was psychotic and like playing with people's mind.

[@pjbpiano]

He did. It amused him.

[@ronittorogers9121]

Bottom line. TLR gets all of this flack because people encouraged and supported a known murderer and now that it’s being put in the spotlight, those people don’t want to look like the idiots they are supporting that type of behavior. Salute to TLR for doing this. Like Momma Duck said “ He the MF GOAT!”

[@nickie7763]

That part.

[@YAWNFILMZ]

What’s crazy about trap lore Ross is you can see the passion for what he dose in his eyes due gonna be grate

[@ILL1607]

You did amazing work difficult topic!

[@figbat6363]

This is honestly thee most intresting serial killer case ive ever studied in my life.

[@stargrays7237]

I've watched so many true crime documentaries about so many serial killers but you're totally right this one is most interesting

[@Goodnightsrest]

You should check out 051 melly he was worse than Von

[@Goodnightsrest]

These environments are breeding grounds for actual gang assassins, I wouldn’t go as far as serial killers but assassins yeah

[@Jay3603Dubb]

Real talk

[@JitThaRuler]

You must not watch much true crime what’s so interesting about a hood shooter ?

[@Fractal_blip]

Von reminds me of Alpo Martinez in some ways. TLR should do a longform doc on Alpo and his cohorts some time, since it is an integral part of trap lore. Although you kind of need to be in Harlem to get first hand accounts.

[@IknowMoreThanYou]

Von is more Wayne Perry than Alpo

[@Fractal_blip]

@@IknowMoreThanYou Oh fa sho!!!! His name just doesn't quite ring in the streets like Alpo's these days. Yo wayne probably has like three times as many bodies as Von.

[@thomasrolack8401]

I was comparing them for a while myself !!! I been noticed the similarities !!!

[@bazglsgw1208]

Von would never have snitched!

[@ryancwatson5349]

I had to subscribe. I been watching too long , you deserve that

[@ishabooo]

Props to you for also having to convert the timezone differences between you and EST times.

[@gobertwaka2568]

Am I the only one who sees that King Von just wasn't killing random people?:He had rivals. That literally changes everything.

[@sirliftalot808]

Yea good point it wasnt just to kill he had motive everytime

[@jonnymac8925]

Lol he did kill a random person and joked about it...

[@elitebeing21]

Serial killers have targets as well😂😂😂 smh

[@supernova7848]

@@sirliftalot808. Having a motive to kill = premeditated murder . First degree murder !

[@Cosmoshairco]

He did kill random GDs. He went hunting

[@jimmyryder8850]

This story is very interesting. It makes his music (which I just discovered) hit different.

[@aurimasm]

Thank you for existing

[@samx2222]

really enjoyed this format

[@samx2222]

thanks based ross

[@TubularTv]

I cant believe it. #TrapLordRoss

[@michaelhurley5272]

Trap you the 🐐💯🤞 🗣️💯

[@mosparksss]

I had to go watch that A&E interview , goodness. 😮‍💨😭😭😭

[@caseycameron5370]

Never listened to his music at all but was a great doco good job mate

[@AzamatoTheGreat]

on the real, they could do a TV show about Von's killings and it'd blow up. The Wire combined with Dahmer? Shiiiiit

[@parker1594]

There’s a delusion in the rap community where good morals arnt cool basically. Don’t submit to that bs we all know what right and wrong. They’ll see it the right way someday when they mature maybe

[@iFaFo_0]

I'm glad you are getting your shine bruh. Its gonna move the culture.

[@bestever2682]

it was a really great documentary, ✌💯💯

[@urbanroots84tt45]

Would like to add… your documentary has highlighted the problems in a massive way! People ( which aIm guessing) who are fed up with this kind of black on black murder in their community will support it! These people who proclaim to want the gang stuff to stop havnt done anything that will make the impact towards stopping it!

[@danielradd111]

They don't call dude a demon for nothing 😈

[@T.Maximus]

Quit glorifying evil.

[@myles_Is_Greater]

I think we should all give Ross his flowers because he just released one of KZbin’s most quality and well put together in depth videos on the entire app

[@thomastalley7806]

Trap Lizzore Ross.... Dude you welcome in VA bro.... haha

[@McCannacle]

How long has queenzflip been with Budden's podcast?

[@solodolo4098]

A few months already

[@GrxndDxD]

Don't kill da messenger. I knew his music wasn't cap. Gave me that young 50 cent feeling.

[@therealrealwizz]

Yea ur kinda right about the zodiac von lyrics I liked your vid tho man very informative

[@stuartmcainsh7069]

How come I ain't gettin notifications wen u post stuff after iv subscribed don't understand that God knows

[@backtoobasics]

Man i wanna g8ve you koodos on that documentary. The tragic stories that come from these neighborhoods need to be heard to hopefully slow down the next generations desire to make the same choices.. stay safe everyone

[@dahnmason3243]

He ain't make shit bruh this KZbin Channel say "Trap More Ross" LMFAOOOO wtf is u talkin about yall slow🤣🤣🤣😭😭🤦🏻‍♂️ This mf's gooood tho, I ain't gona lie lmfao he out here rackin in mad subs from dumbasses💀💀💀

[@Rip.Van.Winkle]

​@@dahnmason3243 says the mf named mason, get a better opinion and name before speaking.

[@trevorariza9550]

It’s not that simple. If anything the documentary added fuel. Not saying the documentary shouldn’t have been made but the streets don’t work that way.

[@TheRealHumanCalculator]

@@trevorariza9550 shut up man

[@gabersons]

P

[@figbat6363]

You aint a police at all. I honestly think von would want this after his passing.

[@samuell.bookeriii3457]

Great Work Trap Lore another one for the books📚💯

[@hurricaneharvey9053]

Trap Lore Ross is an excellent and fair reporter. He handled all the subject matter with tact and facts. I’m sure Von is looking up at everyone and proud of the work 🙏

[@bloodaonadeline8346]

The craziest part to me is how he absolutely did not care about the cops knowing what he was up to. He might as well have been taking snapshots at the scene.

[@emporeraizen1695]

The Atlanta part they were speaking of was NOT about people in Atlanta speaking on Von. It was about YSL. And that folks is an example of why Trap Lore Ross is looked at as a vulture of the culture, because he doesn't understand how we communicate.

[@jamesowens8070]

Anybody else notice in the Zodiac notes he says he gonna do his "thing!" just like Von always talked about him and T.Roy's "thingy thang"

[@kareemlawson878]

Vons not a serial killer Cus he was killing his ops that killed his friends and beat him up on the bus as a kid then all those turned him in to a killer. He was just really cocky and super disrespectful.

[@elronlavey5912]

If there was a movie about Von it wouldn’t be believable

[@Fractal_blip]

You're a real gem in these youtube streets. Stay strapped with a kitchen knife (since you guys cant have guns except for like skeet shooting or whatever)

[@tlmreacts]

nah they got guns across the pond too lol

[@Fractal_blip]

​​@@tlmreacts the licensing for owning a firearm legally is highly restrictive and not for self defense, its mostly for target shooting and small game hunting but maybe if he links up with some yardies he can cop a piece or sum but prison will follow.😢

[@DW-py4up]

@@Fractal_blip something being highly regulated doesn’t make it disappear. Cocaine is illegal in the states doesn’t mean it’s not readily accessible. Your comment screams “I’m clueless but that won’t stop me chiming in” you probably think we’re having sword fights on horseback out here lol

[@Fractal_blip]

@@DW-py4up yeah I didnt say it disappeared. You cannot even read sir 😳 to obtain a license to own a firearm doesnt necessarily mean he can use it against his opps He needs a small kitchen knife no longer than three inches to be compliant (no folding blades). You cannot take your blick with you on the go in the uk. So yeah you missed the point im sorry cuh

[@DW-py4up]

@@Fractal_blip he’d still be liable for prosecution even if he uses his small knife against his oops. Again, you’re making comments about things you have no knowledge of. I didn’t miss the point, you didn’t make a valid point. Just shut up 🤫

[@RantTalk101]

daaaaam ctfu that phone say duck lmao thats crazy

[@SKPanda1915]

Like Ross keeps pointing out, its not the "alleged" bodies but his actions etc. It truly seems like he got pleasure out of the lifestyle and persona he created for himself.

[@documentreats]

Joe Budden just confirmed he just say shit 😂

[@knardg]

Being from Chicago (Jeffery Manor) and being in high school living thru this shyt .Bruh you did a pretty decent job putting this shyt together! Folks was one person out of many crazy mfers The city f*cked up 😂

[@screechpryor]

Good job.. I'm black and British my family lives in Alabama and in London that was a good documentary

[@fendisaintlaurent4257]

Von didn't use his music to leave clues. He used his music to taunt rival gang members as they all did.

[@carrythelabelguy4563]

You really shouldnt be wasting your time appealing to these people who refute facts even when they are verifiably true. With the way these kind of people think there is nothing you can say or show them that will make them change their mind. Its the liberal way.