TRASH’: Katie Pavlich bashes America’s education system

[@dymphnaelsanto5577]

I taught for 36 years.,.the education system is trash. I retired because I ethically couldn't stand it anymore. Still loved my students but in high school...you could get one B any semester and an F with a 0 the other three and still earn the credit. You could miss 150 days and still pass to the next grade. All you had to do was call in at 3 and say here...and then do whatever...some of my students would laugh and say...they were watching a movie ..hanging out with friends ..some say they were at work...but no school work was being done. I asked several about grades/attendance and they said think about it...if you were a teen and could get away with all of this wouldn't you? I probably would. We need to stop this bs.

[@rncgsu]

You are a teacher which couldn't make it in the professional world. No wonder teachers make no money. You have to be competent to make money.

[@DonJoesph]

Education is exactly like anything else. You get out of it what you put into it. Teachers can only lead the class to the trough of knowledge. They can't force the students to drink in the knowledge. I wanted to learn, therefore I learned.

[@thetruthchannel349]

*I avoided class in High School because it bored me. You can't demand students show up for the product you yourself admit is terrible. School was a joke & I knew it. I hated it.*

[@knelson3484]

@rncgsu Don't judge, it's petty. 😒

[@jim6534]

So you still passed them?

[@flingmonkey5494]

Didn't the high schools in the Baltimore area just graduate an entire class where not one student could do math at grade level? There is the education system problem. That is a crime against our kids. We can talk school funding, teacher pay, teacher's unions, school administrations, whatever, but the schools are failing our kids, period, end of story. That cannot be denied, our education system is completely broken. We need to fix it pronto.

[@CindiHuey-r9g]

And the city of Baltimore receives more financial aid than any other school system. Democrat run city, nuff said!

[@DiamondShade-h4p]

The entire country's system must be reformed. America great again. Go for it.

[@thisismyname3928]

Clickbait title though. The Department of Education isn't "American's education system". Plus I feel sorry for the liberal broad's kids. Women shouldn't be forced into stem programs. If they're autonomous let them choose what they want to study.

[@DiamondShade-h4p]

@ You can’t fix the stupidity.

[@jimhovater8755]

I'm 100% Conservative. I voted MAGA 3X. 😊 I began teaching in 1983. I will retire in 2026. America's school systems place $$$ ahead of educating Ametica's future leaders snd doctors.

[@cathyt144]

You need to learn how to spell or at least proofread .😂

[@patrickmckermitt3104]

@@cathyt144Ha!!! The irony!

[@patrickmckermitt3104]

Maybe Jim you would notice that your Conservative Party has defunded public education by over 600 billion in the last decade or so. Being a “teacher” obviously does not mean you are smart. Enjoy your retirement and while you are not busy educate yourself.

[@antoniedutoit3847]

You are an idiot​@@cathyt144

[@lilymd888]

And you are a teacher?! 😮

[@helldg1]

Bs, I was layoff of IT job and had to train for 6 months people overseas where the jobs were outsourced because they were paid less but not by much. I have PhD in math and Engineering and had troubles to find the job because of outsourcing. And no, I was not lazy, always worked hard and smart. Give Americans chance first, and do it right way.

[@kristaps5296]

Who owes you anything? It's a free market.

[@MagiKez]

​@kristaps5296 so the Chinese only have to compete with the Chinese for engineering jobs in China, Brazilians only have to compete with Brazilians, Nigerians only have to compete with Nigerians. But Americans... they have to v compete with the entire planet for jobs in their country. Get out of here

[@zainzoala1083]

😂😂😂 I guess you also paid for your studies as well. It seems like it’s all about making and saving money. Education is expensive, and the idea of free education and training skills can cause panic among those who profit from education. These same people often seek cheap labor from abroad. Many European countries provide free training and have affordable universities, with some even offering free education. For those wanting to return to work, there are free training programs available to help them acquire the necessary skills. However, it appears that here, people are stuck, and the gap between those who have and those who don’t has reached its highest level.

[@Northerngirl360]

Not just higher Ed….it’s k-12 …..this is soooo frustrating to see this over bloated dept suck up $$$ that belongs to the states…to educate their children…

[@gregoryM8105]

The Donald Trump STENCH is SO foul !!! He hasn't had his diapers changed in over a year and TrumpTards line up night and day to get a wiff!!!

[@MikaJackson-k4d]

Anyone who wants to tear down institutions of education completely, woke or not, want a bunch of dumb people to easily rule over. Don't fall for it.

[@bobothecryptohobo8513]

Wrong. All the engineers are unemployed due to DEI/ESB. Companies went to South America for our replacements.

[@Shellm-r3e]

well it will work out great now once elon imports enough enjoy

[@TMendocino]

67% of Tech jobs are White Males, is is the last bastion of White Male dominance in the USA and Vivek and Illegal immigrant Musk want to take that away from you and give it to INDIANS. GRIN

[@davemurray2880]

Thank goodness we voted Trump in . The people has spoken .👍

[@kevinkelly2162]

Have spoken......but thanks for proving the point of the clip.

[@4touchdownsinonegame178]

Yiu are a joke

[@crew-i6t]

@@kevinkelly2162 lol

[@davemurray2880]

I didn't watch the clip . 🤭

[@davemurray2880]

🎣 Haha

[@davey5586]

Katie is spot on as always. The DOE turns out mostly bad products with worthless receipts.

[@thisismyname3928]

Comedian dude suuuucks. Just stuff all the lame jokes.

[@henryvo9529]

You need more engineers? Come to the Silicon Valley and get them. There are many American engineers out of jobs here.

[@MikaJackson-k4d]

That's bc unlike the engineers from India you won't work 80 hours weeks for $500

[@cheecheemen]

There are many in-demand jobs in the United States, including: Software developers: Projected to create 303,700 new jobs from 2023 to 2033 Data scientists: A fast-growing occupation with a growth rate of 36% from 2023 to 2033 Information security analysts: A fast-growing occupation with a growth rate of 33% from 2023 to 2033 Medical and health services managers: A fast-growing occupation with a growth rate of 29% from 2023 to 2033 Physician assistants: A fast-growing occupation with a growth rate of 28% from 2023 to 2033 Home health and personal care aides: Projected to create 820,500 new jobs from 2023 to 2033 Restaurant cooks: Projected to create 244,500 new jobs from 2023 to 2033 Fast food and counter workers: Projected to create 212,500 new jobs from 2023 to 2033 Wind turbine technicians: In-demand as the U.S. increases its use of wind energy Mathematicians and statisticians: Jobs for these professionals may grow by 31% from 2021 to 2031 Technical writers: Create how-to guides and instruction manuals to help users

[@doncjack5913]

Many corporations, companies, and manufacturers etc. are still abusing the system to get cheaper workers right now... you can't really blame Elon and Vivik because there are not many young people motivated to go into those fields to build the system back into the American dream of a good paying jobs. Next year, under the new administration I hope will have better recruitment strategies changing (with no DEI and/or woke narratives removed) so they can weed out the bad apples in the industries calling out the loop hole policies they abused for cheap job recruitment back to American citizens as the priority.

[@Seashellsbytheseashore21]

they are competing with the foreigners that move here with the visas.

[@zainzoala1083]

😂😂😂 They need a cheap yes man visa worker . It seems like it’s all about making and saving money. Education is expensive, and the idea of free education and training skills can cause panic among those who profit from education. These same people often seek cheap labor from abroad. Many European countries provide free training and have affordable universities, with some even offering free education. For those wanting to return to work, there are free training programs available to help them acquire the necessary skills. However, it appears that here, people are stuck, and the gap between those who have and those who don’t has reached its highest level.

[@gregorymckinney666]

Department of Education is a joke.

[@schjonaster]

Except attacking Education system means Billionaires can bring more immigrants into the country, so you are helping turn Americans into the lowest class of worker. You fell for the scam.

[@richardweyland116]

The only thing is it's NOT FUNNY.

[@schjonaster]

@@gregorymckinney666 Attacking education system means Billionaires can hire immigrants

[@gregoryM8105]

Smart peopl SUCK dat what Doneeld say!

[@gregoryM8105]

Donald Trump has not changed his diapers in over a year and TRUMPTARDS LOVE THE SMELLL breath that in Tards!

[@JamesBond-vn1gh]

Don't act surprise, Baltimore have less than 20% students met their reading and mathematics grade levels.

[@Ap_twsh]

College level education should be taught before highschool. But the politicians would hate smart young adults.

[@bookertee3057]

Dept of Education? Another Jimmy Carter failure.

[@andrewwomble2722]

Bush's no child left behind act ruined education. All you need to do is maintain a body temperature of 98 degrees and you can move onto the next grade.

[@SoldiersNRprayers]

So hateful BULLIES are losers

[@RagaSHOT]

Conman convicted criminal Trump is a human failure!

[@MrElapid]

Absolute disaster. I finished H.S. in 1975, we were introduced to calculus in 12'th grade. Yikes.

[@MrMartinSchneider]

You barely graduated high school.

[@sitchad]

Dump the Department of Education, it is a total waste of time and money. Let the states handle the education in their state. And stop the student loan program it just causes the colleges to increase fees.

[@grandpalizardhogge9501]

Let's put Charlie Kirk in as Secretary of Education. He's smart (patriotic) enough to work himself out of a job.

[@vrforseniors9830]

NO MORE SOCIAL SECURITY, HEALTHCARE OR EDUCATION!! MAGA!!!!

[@phillipellison4758]

Invest in American Public education. H1-B visa's is woke stuff. At recess we can play DOGE ball

[@JamesMartin-bz3lq]

@sitchad the best part is, is that the bot proves the point for the magamorons who barely can read this ... lmfao... too funny 😁

[@Ap_twsh]

yup

[@matthewblumenthal804]

I'm retired, but I worked in Silicon Valley for almost thirty years. I'm by no means the brightest bulb in the pack. I did product testing and Quality assurance. My co-workers ranged from brilliant to kind of dim. The H1B program allows some really incredible people to come over from foreign countries. It is also regularly abused to bring in cheaper workers. However, if you look at the real movers and drivers in tech, they are often foreign born. Meritocracy is far more important than country of origin. Does the system need to be reformed? Yes. Does hiring American citizens matter? Yes. Asking someone to train their replacements because those replacements will work cheaper is foul, and I saw it done many times. I believe that the hiring of citizens should be prioritized, but I also believe that bringing in the best and brightest from other places is essential to the growth of both the economy and the country.

[@fvr12345]

Well you voted against yourself if that’s what you truly believe. Trump will limit all immigration and instead of the best and brightest from around the world contributing to America’s success, they will help China and India. 👍

[@SquidKicks7]

The United States was in fact pushing Americans towards the Jobs they worked for. However when those people got their title, they found out pretty quickly how competitive it was on top. And all there was avaliable was a "immigrant-job" for them to do. I now understand why some of my co-workers were college graduates. Considering me being a school drop-out, it was pretty eye opening.

[@dinamazzarella5960]

Kennedy, like Vivek and MUSK, is FOS. Several years ago, I worked in DC at the USPTO. The vast VAST majority of tech workers were INDIAN. While I am NOT opposed to working with H1B people, there is LITERALLY NO REASON to choose these people over those within our own country, unless the intent is to choose CHEAP LABOR. Especially now, when much of the TECH Industry is laying off, AMERICAN CITIZENS should be provided full employment BEFORE we issue H1B VISAs to those who would take AMERICAN jobs. The majority of the H1Bs I worked with were in no way technically on par with the skill levels of their American counterparts. The same is true of NURSING imported from Eastern countries. I have personally seen this in a Scranton PA hospital. They are put through an additional 1-2 years of training first, are paid much less, and are abusively overworked. And remember, as H1B people need to be FULLY VETTED and provided with varying levels of Security Clearances, you cannot easily vet foreigners. This creates another security hole, essentially enabling access to the US infrastructure for those who have NO real dog in the fight; so big BIG security threat.

[@Don2006]

Proud American engineer here. Yes, our universities are woke, but you DO NOT disrespect their STEM grads. Most engineering jobs are a walk in the park compared with what universities put us through. I have worked with other engineers all over the world and have never felt outmatched.

[@Lisammifsud]

They aren't woke

[@SewingBoxDesigns]

When did you graduate?

[@debbie5728]

I agree, but also don’t know how long ago that was. I’m putting my last kid (#4) through Ca university system, and STEM curriculum. He’s wasted 2 years of GE classes stuck in Plato’s cave where “everything he knows is wrong” and being taught how to wean off gender bias and become an anti capitalist. They don’t even try to hide it anymore. (I told him he has the green light to cheat his way through the meaningless BS classes)

[@debbie5728]

@@SewingBoxDesignsMy point/question too.

[@Don2006]

@SewingBoxDesigns c/o 2010 from UCLA -- yes, it was a lot less woke back then, but it was also easier to get into their School of Engineering, fwiw

[@M25Z22fcv]

"20% of Americans cannot read." How many percent of UCLA graduates cannot spell simple American English words???

[@danieldwyer5139]

Oh my God I can’t believe you said that out loud

[@TheJogo75]

Well said!

[@margiemurray2147]

Count change, multiply, critical thinking, write an essay

[@JamesMartin-bz3lq]

How many? Umm as in 'what' % ? You're the moron 🙄 😅

[@dam8087]

Imagine trying to dunk on UCLA graduates, one of the better Universities in the world.

[@LordThomasRoy-wy8lf]

The Department of Education no longer provides education. It’s all about Values clarification. Behavioral modification. Brain washing.

[@rockyracoon3233]

Wokeism.

[@gregoryM8105]

The Donald Trump STENCH is SO foul !!! He hasn't had his diapers changed in over a year and TrumpTards line up night and day to get a wiff!!!

[@phillipellison4758]

@@rockyracoon3233 Invest in Americans education. That H1-B visa stuff is woke. At recess we can play DOGE ball.

[@Dean4511]

Dept. of Indoctrination.

[@kevinmiller-ri4mo]

Don't forget DEI (deviant evil insanity).

[@apatriotone]

I would leave MAGA over this issue. If there is a shortage of STEM talent in the US it's because of the flood of cheaper foreign workers that displaced American talent over the last 20 years who were replaced and the tech job market is so flooded with H-1Bs Americans are at the back of very long lines to even get interviewed. Why would anyone major in computer science when they saw their highly qualified parents get laid off and having to train their cheaper less qualified Indian replacements? Same in healthcare. Plus, they tend to hire their own.

[@rickmcdonald2233]

ah just this issue?

[@JeannetteShoreland]

You are mistaken about "less qualified Indian replacements". Nurses coming from Canada and India are exceeding well trained and highly skilled. Their professional ethics are above reproach as well. I have never seen any of the "foreign workers" hung over, high, disappearing while on duty, or chronically late for work; something I cannot say about their US-trained counterparts.

[@Ap_twsh]

Ok so why do these foreigners start companies here and you don't? Is it DEI or are you maybe not trying your hardest? I mean you could say DEI but Elon musk isn't really DEI in the sense. Sometimes you have to look at yourself and say " Am I the best I can be"?

[@deborahfreedman333]

Well put. Too often companies lay off talented programmers, because they drawing a good salary. Then they hire cheaper H1B programmers. But, the joke is often on them, because the American may have required twice as much money, but produced ten times as much working code. Bean counters never take productivity into account.

[@realisticone3439]

look at the company hiring process. it's dei, looks and ageism and not base on merit just so that they pay lower.

[@dannywojo4393]

Companies don't properly train employees anymore either

[@amberfun9148]

That would cost them money and profits are more important than people in unfettered neo-liberal capitalism

[@gregorymckinney666]

If you take out a student loan and can’t pay it back then that’s on you.

[@RagaSHOT]

So how do you feel about all if trump's loans in his failed businesses that the tax payers were on the hook for when he went bankrupt????

[@MikaJackson-k4d]

I take it you never went to college.

[@deborahfreedman333]

@@RagaSHOT Thank you for demonstrating how bad US education has become. The word is *loan* not lone.

[@W81Researcher]

@@gregorymckinney666 I can't pay it back but I didn't expect to hit this roadblock.

[@Hat3M0ng3r]

Well you just tossed out all your doctors and nurses...

[@Jeremy-j4f]

He has a point, public school is a disgust at best! Definitely not about training and educating the next generation to think on as independent minds who can stand on their own 2 feet! It has become a corporate money machine, seriously how low it has gotten!

[@tpoz48]

Whether it's in school or at home, the lessons of work ethics need to be taught as well.

[@amberfun9148]

Right, it’s unethical to import labor to Undercut domestic wages. The ethics of labor goes both ways

[@alonzolobaton4631]

Can’t handle the truth 😢

[@Ap_twsh]

basically no wonder americans are never improving they cant handle the reality.

[@dfields9511]

kids don't want to go into STEM programs because why go thru all that hard work only to see your job go to foreign worker, after you go in debt to get the degree. Change that and I you will see a change in the US students

[@AZLorie-kl5ow]

The talent pool IS available. I got to train my offshore replacement. Check out the I.T. departments to find the abuses!!

[@kevinjulia2852]

In NYC almost every high-school graduates pursue a social service degree. When I try talking to them about an engineering degree they refuse to listen. Now that being said not too many American high school students have the mathematical or science skills needed to pursue an engineering degree. The schools in most Democratic party-controlled cities rather teach students about homosexuality and low-level degrees in social working environments. You can't find a teacher who encourages students to pursue engineering degrees. Example: I decided to get a digital forensics degree and my class started around 40 students. By the end of the year, there was only 8 of us left. And we lost all those students in part because they couldn't keep up with the advanced calculus and trigonometry needed to succeed in that field. So when I asked them why they quit their responses were I didn't take calculus or trigonometry in school or they flunked math and barely passed.

[@henryvo9529]

Calculus and Trig should be finished from 9 to 12 grade.

[@kevinjulia2852]

@henryvo9529 that's correct. In my case, I was in a Roman Catholic school where we were already doing pre-calculus in 5th grade. For me growing up I thought everyone was doing the same coursework as it turns out it wasn't. There shouldn't be an educational disparity in any schools and I believe we should demand and hold the school board accountable for such disparity.

[@slevenkelevra3813]

"I don't want a nation of thinkers, I want a nation of workers" --J.D. Rockefeller.

[@Ap_twsh]

So hes a white guy, why is everyone saying indians want to replace whites if the guy that started all this is white?😂😂

[@cvaisanen]

I agree with Katie. Let's support Americans and train the qualified students and give better opportunities for Americans. America first.

[@JMillion]

Student Loan Forgiveness.

[@dam8087]

Lmfao You folks vote Republican, all of the worst performing states in education rankings are deep red, no wonder they're full of parasites living on government handouts

[@jefferystein5452]

Teacher's unions going down

[@KevinCave-rj8eq]

Let's hope so 👎 I believe they're dumin our kids on purpose you know who you got to blame for that don't you Obama 🗡️💩💯

[@vrforseniors9830]

NO MORE SOCIAL SECURITY, HEALTHCARE, UNIONS OR EDUCATION!! MAGA!!!!

[@gregoryM8105]

The Donald Trump STENCH is SO foul !!! He hasn't had his diapers changed in over a year and TrumpTards line up night and day to get a wiff!!!

[@KevinCave-rj8eq]

A men👍

[@DukeTrinh-j4k]

My youngest son wanted to be a teacher. He was hired to replace the sexual molester at his high school. The Teach Union protect that molester teacher for years and outed my son. One of the girls in his classed got half of the school students and teachers signed letter asking the school to keep my son as teacher. No change with the powerful union. My son now moves on and help college students instead of high school.

[@robertwright6088]

Yeah it's such a woke college.

[@ronaldguerrieri1988]

Are education system sucks.

[@gregbors8364]

Yeah, “are” education system sucks. Case in point…

[@andrewwomble2722]

I no what you mean, it iz turribel

[@Melikebutter]

That's why people from around the world come to the USA for a college degree

[@DH-uw3us]

It's by design. They want workers, not an educated society. It's all about making or saving 💸.

[@DavidChavez-y1t]

Our* 😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@christinesingleton2408]

My dad was a teacher for 30 years. My son is a principal. My husband is a pilot and was a electrician for almost 30 years. I myself have a associate degree. My oldest son was in the Military for 12 years. They both have college degrees. We need more electricians, plumbers, trash truck drivers. Mike Rowe started an organization for blue collar workers. I’m sorry ever since Covid nobody wants to work including our government! I worked since I was 15, Everyone wants to stay home start a Utube channel! All my son’s friends may have degrees but they don’t do what they went to college for! I’m praying my grandkids will have opportunities and be able to do what they want. Also be able to support themselves.

[@ricksaunders8074]

Regardless if you choose Blue Collar You need a education I knew a guy dropped out 10th grade He did dry wall for his dad He made 10x what we did as workers But he wasn't that smart

[@christinesingleton2408]

@ I think life experience should go towards a degree! I also had a friend her husband had a college degree. Started a painting business. He was a teacher. My father was a awesome teacher, coach had a masters from Notre Dame. Treat people how you want to be treated. I myself was a Jack of all trades master of none! I went to college for Dental Assisting. I worked while I was going to school. Paid for my own books. I came from a family of 6, middle class they get no help! I catered, was a CNA, I retired from an elementary school. I worked with Special Needs Kids. Everything is so impersonal! Everything online. Shopping, texting…… just sad to me.

[@Ap_twsh]

Boomers messed everything up. They all had their fun as hippies low regulations now they sucked the governments teet.

[@patrickhale2087]

I am an unemployed electrician in Denver who has been replaced by illegal immigrants. They work for half the American wage. Of course they don't abide by OSHA or National Electric Code standards. One of the projects I was replaced on burnt down a few months after I was replaced.

[@christinesingleton2408]

@ that is terrible! Prayers for you and your family. I’m sorry if you are not here legally in this country you should not be able to take the jobs of American citizens!

[@Nohandle1988]

TRUMP 2024!! 🇺🇲 🇺🇸 🇺🇲 🇺🇸

[@jeanellecheramie6890]

🎉🎉🎉

[@jeanellecheramie6890]

@Ry-n8j4l 🎉🎉🎉

[@LisaWhitley-tc2lt]

Katie is spot on! 🙏🇺🇸

[@lmf6139]

My son is an engineer. Colleges are producing plenty of engineers ! Elon wants cheaper like every other corporation. Only 37% of engineers get jobs out of college.

[@bzgent]

How many engineers US is producing vs India each year. Go check yourself and come back. You will understand why Elon and Vivek are saying that

[@MiySadochok]

Employees want people with work experience.

[@narayanprasad4008]

Excuse me ! H1B visa highly educated Technology experts from India are paid a lot ! I know because I have family members here on H1B visa . They buy a new BMW very soon after coming here !

[@jeffrp8388]

Depends on what type of engineer.

[@riverroadracing]

​@bzgent you really call those people from India engineers? Have you seen their country at all? Why do you think all of these airlines keep going down?

[@chasefancy3092]

When Everyone Has a Different Perception Of What Education Entails, Failure Is Inevitable.

[@heathermatthews1323]

Like not knowing how to use capital letters, huh ?

[@amberfun9148]

I’m convinced this is a signature move of authoritarians. Like a dog whistle to others like them. Coded words

[@kathyporter8581]

Thanks for speaking the truth Katie!

[@johncox6321]

We spend millions on educational facilities while Russia is still using buildings that have bullet gouges in them from WWII ... for all our spending, "Johnny and Sue" can't read or count while Russian students can do Calcalus in their head without a calculator.... but a change is coming after January 20'th! 🤔

[@Jeffrey867]

Да вы батенька наглотались российского пропагандина, 😮 выплюньте.. Российская система образования сейчас работает только на то, чтобы по максимуму выкачивать деньги из населения и это в принципе правильно.

[@deborahfreedman333]

When I was a grad student in computer science, I was usually the only female. Working as a computer programmer, I was often the only female. It's a bit better now, but it is a very male oriented field. I often saw ads for programming jobs, with absurd requirements, like 5 years experience in JAVA, when that language was only 3 years old. The reason for these ads was, companies were required to post them for 6 months, before they could hire an H1B worker. But, those foreign workers didn't meet the impossible requirements, like American engineers had to. We also had foreign programming students, in grad school. Some were okay, others were garbage. This one Iranian fellow, who supposedly had a BA in CS, couldn't get his code to work, so asked me to help him. He didn't even know what a case statement was. Many foreign universities are not producing the best and brightest, just the cheapest.

[@henryvo9529]

@@deborahfreedman333 The one who posted the ad is from HR Department 😀 Many CEOs lied to government and did lobbying to politicians in order to get H1B for cheaper price.

[@razz-8031]

I live in a small city in Massachusetts where roughly 60% of the people have been in this country for 20 years. Out of that 60% about 40% of them immediately applied for SSDI and used the emotional problems routine because it's nearly impossible to give a yes or no diagnosis. That being said, I now live in a city where 40%+ will never have to work a day in their life, they have the best healthcare if treated in this state, food stamps, and $1500 cash refund every march for your utility bills. Because I worked 45 years and only collect the Social Security I paid into, I still live only 5 thousand dollars a year abouve the poverty level and pay for everything no refunds, nothing. I know dozens of these immigrants and that panel is correct. Neithet them or their 5 children families can barely speak english let alone spell a 5 letter word.

[@dezmans1]

Thanks to Hollywood for glorifying athletes and leisurely attending school w/o any real consequences. Everyone wants to win the popularity contest and still move into college and then a job based on looks alone. The best engineers are those you support and follow through their education growth. The problem with H1B, is that on paper they look good, but the reality is not what it seems. Why would their country let them go, if they are so good ?

[@W81Researcher]

@@dezmans1 DEI has been pushed in STEM too.

[@rncgsu]

There are tens of thousands of engineers and computer science graduates every year. Social science degrees are mostly women.

[@ed713ca]

Americans generally don't want to or can't afford school. Education has been crap for decades. Super low standards in primary schools

[@Ap_twsh]

Problem is they teach you below average information. The college curriculum needs to be studied from k-12 not the things that are being taught now.

[@CindiHuey-r9g]

They changed the way they teach math, so parents can’t help their kids, because that is not how we were taught. Do they even teach times table anymore?

[@henryvo9529]

@@ed713ca Teaching methods are the problems.

[@victorialyles7068]

The quality of US education has declined. I started noticing it in the early 90s. I have 2 questions that may explain why this decline is going on: 1. What was the quality of US education prior to 1979, when the Department of Education was started? 2. Why was the Department of Education started? I ask these questions as someone who started school in 1980, after the DOE was established.

[@travispool2984]

In the 1940s-50s people were told that the country needed steel workers, farmers, transcriptionists, seamstresses, warriors, farmers, engineers, etc. In the 1960s-70s people were told to protest and rebel against institutions of all kinds (this is also when Marxism took a foot hold in the universities). In the 1980s-90s people were told that everyone HAD TO HAVE a college education or wouldn’t amount to anything. I’m the 2000s-2010s people were told they HAD TO HAVE a masters degree in order to be competitive in the workforce. In the 2020s people are being told that the educational system is broken and needs to be reformed. It’s interesting how the system has gotten worse after the country emphasized the need for it. Maybe we should go back to seeing what the country NEEDS for it’s survival and production, and then incentivize those professions? Then we can defund the programs that don’t produce return on investment.

[@carolynfield5531]

H1B’s drive down the wages of engineering and tech positions that’s why students, many with large student loans, aren’t going into these majors.

[@MarksHandle0154]

I am retired from an IT career and have recently had the opportunity to substitute teach in a new charter school. Being the first year of a public charter school, we have had children come from a variety of educational and aocial backgrounds. I was shocked by the fact that so many of the 5th graders could not multiply or divide fairly simple numbers.

[@Gary-l7d]

CORRUPTION X1000!!!

[@afishon2nd]

We also need a very strong apprentice program for the trades area, not every one wants to go to college and we cannot live without a strong trades workforce. The fact that CNN, MSNBC, and others are calling people like me "uneducated" because I don't have a degree is ultra insulting.

[@amberfun9148]

If “education” is the door to get these types of jobs, then we have to get this education to be employed in many industries.

[@edthebumblingfool]

You encourage people into a job by offering good job prospects, Importing workers doesnt do this at any level it lowers wage levels and doesnt provide entry level jobs.

[@dinamazzarella5960]

We do NOT NEED H1-B visas, we just need a corporate system that is AMERICA FIRST. I worked for MERCK-MEDCO in the Hackensack area appx 20 years ago (they are now separated), and was told that I had to train my (and two other workers) H1-B IT replacements. All 3 of us were replaced by 7, YES SEVEN, INDIANS. These "REPLACEMENTS" were almost completely IGNORANT of IT hardware, software, CONCEPTS, and policies. They were paid appx 1/3 of my compensation, given a monthly food and clothing allowance as well as a place to live free of charge. Does this sound like they were highly skilled like the falsehoods spouted by MUSK and RAMASWAMI. All companies that SUPPOSEDLY cannot find the correct level of skills in AMERICAN WORKERS should FIRST have to go through a special office of vetting where the office should first look at LinkedIn to find those skilled AMERICAN WORKERS, and if they do, the corporations should also be heavily fined for attempting these shenanigans. Otherwise, we AMERICANS end up with a lopsided corporate AMERICA looking like GOOGLE and KZbin. MAGA should stand for MAKE AMERICANS GREAT AGAIN (first), NOT AMERICA (with a dash of H1-Bs) FIRST.

[@ArnieD17]

Sounds remarkably like what was going on at American Family Insurance in the early 2000s.

[@joumero7493]

Idk about Ramaswami, but Musk's point was that *he* got in on an H1B visa (and has not been here for 10 years yet so he's not yet a citizen) and so he likes the program. He feels that without it, people like him would be unfairly excluded, which is true, but far too many abuse the system to hire more workers for less wages. It definitely needs to be reformed.

[@dinamazzarella5960]

@@joumero7493 Not so fast. AS MUSK IS exceptional, THERE'S no reason WHY any other exceptional someone WHO HAS A SKILL THAT CORPORATE CANNOT FIND ANYWHERE IN THE USA cannot be allowed in. But, when all you are importing is a group of individuals, who at best, have questionable skills in IT or anything else, just because they will work on the cheap, that is where the line is drawn. And remember that MUSK, like Vivek, are entrepreneurs, NOT someone who is looking to TAKE AMERICAN JOBS, but instead MAKE AMERICAN JOBS; that is, unless Americans allow them to eschew American workers for CHEAP and underwhelmingly skilled labor from India or wherever. The H1B should be put to use ONLY for the EXCEPTIONS, and should not be used for the usual case.

[@theresarobertson8467]

In my little town, most school taxes go to paying coaches much more than teachers and building top of the line stadiums. When less than 1% of students participate in the football program, maybe it shouldn't be a school district's top priority.

[@celiawest-u2y]

I came here 44 years ago recruited from Scotland as a registered midwife, there was a major shortage of nurses , I saw nurses from India, UK, Philippines , South Korea etc, so many young people in this country can’t afford the cost of the education to get the degree , make it more affordable to help them get an education, In Scotland my education was free and I got a stipend to help with expenses,maybe change this and maybe more people would be able to afford an education

[@jovelynmartin8820]

I agree H-1B Visas.

[@kenharper7189]

I've been saying for years that if we don't fix our education system, nothing we do to try to save this country will matter.

[@stevemassengill9236]

Katie is right!

[@theJackaldeal]

In Europe . My 16 year old cousin . Was going to school a half day . And going to the afternoon . Working and learning her traid . This is normal . There was a shortage of bakers . Because everyone became white collar workers . We pay the most for education . And are completely failing to turn out graduates. 😢

[@wendybetka8566]

It's not "the system" . It's a cultural issue and a family issue. The family is broken and we don't truly value education. If we did, we would have a classical approach to education.

[@txwombat7826]

The current culture is that sports are more important (and makes them money) then STEM.. but yes agreed family values are lacking.

[@KLS775]

I’m with the American workers on this issue Corporations are abusing that program and it needs to be reformed Nothing against anyone who wants the visa and come here and work

[@JoAnnP38]

I have to take issue with Katie's perspective on STEM education. There are some awesome engineering programs around the country that aren't named MIT such as Georgia Tech, Cal Tech, Perdue and even 2nd or 3rd tier schools are turning out some fine engineers. I have a BS in Computer Science from Florida State and an MS from U. of FL. While I know they don't have the cachet of the top STEM schools I found I was prepared to compete against Software Engineers from better programs. In theory the idea behind the H-1B is great; however, there is too much leeway for abuse and allow companies to just hire engineers for salaries. I think companies should also be required to make good faith efforts to hire from the domestic market before falling back on the H-1B pipeline.

[@jayhadcock8767]

Education by what defanition public schooling teachs how to sit endlessly without going crazy from being bored 😴

[@WVmama2888]

I am a public school teacher (history) …. and I think one of the biggest problems in the public education system is we took the fun out of the classroom. All we do is “teach to the state test” and the kids hate it. We hate it. When the kids are having fun…. they learn 10x’s more. Most teachers are not “woke”. We are just trying to do out best with what we have. I honestly would love for them to restructure the entire education system.

[@cathyt144]

Do a study on how many actual hours of teaching the students are receiving on a daily basis. Students receive too many days out of class these days. I have seen it first hand and its a disgrace. Its all about money these days,not educating minds.

[@huongtransqu2269]

The DEI also is killing our education

[@heathermatthews1323]

How ?

[@johnperevuznik41]

Instead of H1B's, Employers Should be Cherry Picking From STEM Programs. We As Americans have had a Strong Push and Success with Science Tech Eng & Math. AMERICA FIRST!!!

[@jmjenkins97]

In sure you mean white Americans because we have seen qualified minorities pushed to the side for white mediocrity

[@ladyjustice1474]

It's not just the education system. Many inventors don't have funds for patens, production, and advertising.

[@rubenservin4039]

Even in the trucking industry the b 1s are working more than the Americans

[@happiness8535]

Harvard and MIT depend on foreign students to keep their student body among the best.

[@meredithmarino1030]

Just here to say that engineering is no longer high paying like it should be due to the educational system and our value system as a nation. When a person with a random degree can make 6 figures in a non important banking job while an engineer can barely crack 100k…we’ve got problems! Our society doesn’t value important work and the schools ignore it.

[@debbiegonzales4399]

These discussions are extremely important! American children need better education! Better quality of education, and affordable education!! Scholarship programs are infested with DEI protocols where those should be decided by MERIT!

[@wsb3377]

Even if your kid is in the public school system , you must home school them to fill in the discrepancy.

[@KevinDick-h6f]

I have been going back many years to various community colleges . The thing that gets me is times have changed but the material the college chooses as the class requirement of that class is many times not that good of quality or the publisher of the texted used in class is not the teachers preference or the material is not quality of information needed to be learned. In talking to these teacher outside of classes has verified this several years , at least 15- 20 years. Teacher instructors are stuck with the crap of book material and have little say so over the material to cover that subject matter.

[@raiderfel]

LOL YEAH U KNOW ME!! Kennedy with the MTV VJ throw back!!

[@georgegould667]

How does tenure play in quality of professors ?

[@JimmieSueWolf]

Start funding more public education. Then you won't have this problem.

[@snapfinger1]

How ‘bout pay off that $36 trillion Visa credit card bill. Most 12 year olds should have a PhD from Wikipedia by now.

[@zahradaniel5895]

If American education is trash, why Elon Musk have to graduate United States not about education, support, cheap labor

[@Dean4511]

There should be stipulations in the H1-B program requiring incoming immigrants to be paid at least as much as the people they're replacing and with the exact same employee benefits. That way it would remove incentives for employers to exploit the program simply for lower wages and higher profits.

[@anthonyellison2444]

Im 27 and ive met kids who are in highschool who literally have a elementary reading level.

[@amberfun9148]

Could it be the Harry Potter and Twilight novels? Cuz that is where literature died ImO

[@sbath2714]

America’s education system produced Donald Trump so it can’t be that bad.

[@JustMe-dd5ou]

Same here in the uk guys! 🤷‍♀️

[@garydavidson2367]

But the visa migrants in Springfield is eating pets WHAT HAPPEN 😮

[@Michelle-j4k]

They still are

[@knelson3484]

🙀

[@knelson3484]

🙀

[@4touchdownsinonegame178]

The uneducated Maga complaining about the school districts. What a joke

[@josemorrasge8100]

First ones are to be deported.

[@DeonOliverio1]

Corporate America First! 🇺🇸

[@philiplam2084]

Why admit foreign students to US universities and educate them and then not let them stay to use their education to help US companies?

[@inexordream]

More Laws and regulations are never the answer, neither is enforcing them

[@Ston247]

The education system is ineffective and spends our money on political administrative activism. Big schools often fail their students.

[@KevinCave-rj8eq]

I thought I couldn't stand Jessica I can't stand her even worse you could just tell Kennedy was wanting to give her a swirly😂

[@daninraleigh]

5:00 Forcing women into STEM. Another part of the problem. Most women don't naturally want to do STEM. It's fine if they do, but most don't.

[@jmjenkins97]

So now it’s not natural for women to want to do stem…smh no shocker as to why America is behind to busy focused on the ISMs

[@Jennyli56]

You absolutely nailed it. American education system did not and will not provide enough talent workers. H-1B Visa is a great way to import talents. However, currently more than 70% of the quota are taken by Indians because they have special groups of people (agents) know how to play the “lottery” system. That has to be stopped.

[@CHAOS222-e2z]

No Chinese nationals for h1 visas

[@kevinjulia2852]

Katie is correct 👌. My children graduated with a 4.5 GPA went to the US Naval Academy, Annapolis, and got engineering degrees. And everyone knows how hard it is to get accepted to these types of universities.

[@kathleenduval1309]

This Temporary/SEASONAL Visa...has workers that fill jobs that Americans don't WANT...

[@kevinjulia2852]

Our professor tried to enroll them in a math course to bring them up to speed and they opted just to take another course. I came to learn later that year that they took counseling courses and things of that nature.

[@huongtransqu2269]

Our education always said “no one left behind”; this is a problem to education. They even get rid of SAT. They don’t encourage young men and women to be best and compete with each other.

[@williamcallinan752]

Americans First let’s go

[@ladyluna-steph7371]

Call your congressman like you did for the omnibus.

[@1Probound]

There will always be "exceptions" when broad statements are made. We have SOME of the best and brightest, but not nearly enough, and that comes down to an education system that promotes DEI over actually grooming students to BE the best and the brightest. Children need to be raised by their PARENTS, not by social media.

[@andreasbyczkowski3435]

I haven’t studied this topic closely, so very roughly; we need high skilled techies right away to not fall behind globally that must sign a highly-binding loyalty oath to our country AND SIMULTANEOUSLY we need to IMMEDIATELY REVAMP the priorities, incentives, “coolness” and culture of our schools and supporting societal structures in VERY TARGETED MANNERS so they produce qualified and WHOLESOME HEALTHY personnel for 21 Cent US challenges, opportunities and needs. It’s not about “one or the other” or “one against the other” or “left vs right”. PS) If we simply honestly study good/best practices in various areas among our extensive allies/partners and remember some history, all the “solutions” are usually already “there”. 🧐