Trashtalk on Lancer (Field Guide on The KTB): Orchis & Calendula

[@lucasfv1357]

Now that we have Calendula as a variant for Minotaur, the whole "Horus has no frames, only pattern groups" thing makes a lot more sense

[@Sip_Dhit]

The group of course being portals and pocket dimensions

[@bagelofthefuture]

So, we've got a Captain America-themed bumper car and a sleep paralysis demon. Cool cool cool

[@dunethewanderer8944]

The Calendula is perfect for being terrifying. Not in the "rip and tear" sense of the Caliban, or the "oh god I can't even move or I'm gonna get shot" of the Gorgon, or even the "I'm sorry it's cannon does *how many die of damage*" that's the Barbarossa, but instead basically being an 80s Slasher movie villain by blinking in and out of existence before dragging someone into a side dimension where they now have to either 1v1 you or run like hell.

[@burnyourhabitat]

IT'S PRACTICALLY FREDDY KRUEGER

[@mr.killwolf6667]

@@burnyourhabitat holy shit

[@jakejohnson718]

It's basically "I'm banishing you to the shadow real,"; the mech

[@icarusreaver3184]

I wanna play a calendula with Uni Comp as a defender, so that as enemies are attacking me, there comes a point where my health is low and my mech is practically falling apart from the throwing everything they have at it. Until I look at the enemy whose uses the most resources on me, and have their world go black as the only other thing in their perception is me with my mech looking like the fight hasn’t started yet. "𝒴ℴ𝓊 𝒶𝓇ℯ 𝒶𝓁ℴ𝓃ℯ, 𝒸𝒽𝒾𝓁𝒹," Such an awesome frame with unique storytelling opportunities

[@purebloodedgriffin]

It's only a 1v1 if they feel like being fair, they totally could bring friends and gang up on you

[@torymiddlebrooks]

So, if they can't touch the void husk they are permanently stuck on the other side. That's nightmare fuel.

[@celihenry3227]

Just put an enkidu ally in there and it gets scaryer

[@bohba13]

@@celihenry3227 _ohhhhhh fuuuuuuck_

[@iansaviet600]

Calendula is actually called Spooky Dave, at least from what I've seen

[@RainbowGod666]

VEXWEREWOLF REFERENCE DETECTED

[@purebloodedgriffin]

Calendula is one thing in an actual in game party, but imagine the tactics on a battlefield, where you have squads of just Calendulae lurking about yoinking enemy troops into hell land, and ganging up on them

[@nonya1366]

"We sent the HVT to the void and beat the shit out of them while their friends had to watch." MORALE DAMAGED

[@VGM00021]

I love the alt frame concept, and how it's been used to highlight the cultures of the people who created them. Ranger Swallowtail is a busted-up, patched, survivalist recon mech that tells the story of the long war against OVERWATCH/KINGMAKER. Mk I Genghis and Enkidu Tokugawa represent the height of SecCom's barbarity and desperation. Still picking through the book, but the traits and Abbadon's always impeccable art hint at the Baronies' situation. A society mired in long-standing tradition on the verge of a violent upheaval. Also mixing Calendula with some of the Vlad's systems might be a good way to keep a troublesome target in the Shadow Realm until the squad is ready to dogpile it.

[@jesterlord1232]

Looking at what Calendula does reminds me a LOT of Warframes Limbo character, who also revolved around banishing allies and enemies between "void plains" and could freely move between them himself

[@Geejay412]

was looking for someone else who noticed

[@hughsmith7504]

Yup, already seeing the Orchis + Caliban mash ups now...

[@kylestanley7843]

Shotgun them away from the void husks so they can't escape lol

[@8BitMisdreavus]

Fun fact! While Invades might not count as tech attacks against allies (as they auto-succeed and specifically "[do not] count as an attack"), the Swallowtail's "Markerlight" and the Goblin's "OSIRIS-CLASS NHP" do not say you cannot make their tech attacks against allies. This would allow you to meet the conditions for Void Husk, and, if your DM is okay with some out of combat-prep, Execrate your entire team. As you can stay Intangible as a protocol, you can then ferry your entire team behind enemy lines before repeating the process to create an exit, creating an extremely chaotic ambush. In combat, this is not as effective, as it takes too much time to set up, but can be done on a smaller scale. Send your Blackbeard friend to the Shadow Realm, then Execrate a hostile character. Properly timed, this can open up for the BB to grapple them and drag them straight to hell. And if your DM rules Invades can be made against allies as attacks, this all becomes even easier. Food for thought.

[@aldar8240]

Obviously I'm very late to the party, but I wanted to add that the Minotaur's very own Aggressive System Sync system is also capable of triggering this, not limited to hostile characters. Excommunicate in particular has no adverse effects as long as the target avoids going adjacent to allies for the duration of it, so this trick is doable at LL2 without any other dips necessary.

[@marshroverv5632]

Fun thing with efficient core powers is to get universal compatibility, for effectively a free repair every scene, (plus of course the chance to use the efficient core power multiple times per scene)

[@c.2660]

I have a Caliban and my friend has an Orchis. We are just skipping around the field together, mowing down enemies like daisies. It's great.

[@jakejohnson718]

I read the thing for execrate, and immediately made a shadow realm joke, imagine my surprise when you proceeded to do that aswell in the video afterwards lmao

[@chiggins1475]

I love your edits, they regularly get me to belly laugh. The amount of niche references you manage to sneak in is a testament to your Cultured status. Excellent work, as always

[@cold8578]

If I am correct, Royal guard can be used even if you brace, since its not standard movement on the orchis frame. Picking this frame has given SO much team synergy to our Lancer games.

[@11dragonkid11]

You are in fact correct! And I should have put that in the video...

[@cold8578]

@@11dragonkid11 I think it turned out great though Thank you for all your hard work you do creating videos

[@berniebroig8745]

I love the way you do your animations for effects in Lancer. The ones where you have hostile mechs close the distance between their targets at the end of an explanation are always a treat to see!

[@ethanbarnett4183]

SPOOKY DAAAAVE

[@cyanic3148]

the Calendula's sound effects are great and really funny lol I especially like startled Nelson

[@PerroMuffin]

YEEEEEEEEEES FINALLY THE CALENDULA VIDEO IS HERE. LET'S GO AND DIVE INTO THE SHADOW REALM

[@Equineballista]

I do like that you can just strand people in the shadow realm with calendula

[@Levyafan]

When Captain Orchis throws its mighty shield, then those who chose to oppose this shield must yield...

[@paxiros4428]

Awesome video! Are you going to do a trash talk series for Battlegroup starships when it officially releases by any chase? Keep up the greatness!!

[@ASquared544]

God a team with Calendula, Mourning Cloak (or just any Fade Cloak user), and literally any other frame can just isolate and triple team a single foe. Bad against ultras. Amazing against commanders.

[@ThePseudologist]

Thanks for the video!

[@BlitzkriegOmega]

I'd love to build an Orchis, but I am very stupid and don't know which licenses to use. I assume you want your systems and weapons to be knockback based to constantly throw Shield at people?

[@lucasfv1357]

sounds like caliban and its own blackwitch licenses are good starting points

[@ThePteropterus]

Honestly just ferrous lash is amazing for the orchis. Additionally, anything that requires adjacency is ten times better for the orchis. 20 if you take house guard talent. I basically play mine as a bouncer. I escort my buddies into combat, use spotter 1 and bonded 1 to help them fight, and if an enemy is particularly annoying, I just pitch them away with ferrous or the core power. I'm going to take argonaut shield for the house guard synergy, war pike with supermassive for better range and knockback.

[@lucasfv1357]

Now I'm picturing orchis-balor for some weird reason

[@jordanholt9170]

The thing that drew me to the Orchis was the 12 save target. I built a drone commander with a bunch of tempest drones and field command plate to pinball enemies with a save target of 17 at LL6.

[@phantomshotgun9223]

I just realized Calendula abilies is 1-1 Limbo from Warframe XD oh i can't wait to use this frame.

[@Yacovo]

Thanks for the video.

[@maboi0007]

I love these new mechs aaaaaa

[@michelveilleux2075]

Just just picked up Lancer and decided to pull up a random name generator for fun. Came up with "Crazy Horse" whilst picking the Orchis. Seems legic since i've always played bladed speedy boi. Even better now, since i now know that i can yeet my shield and it'll come right back like Captain America. 😅

[@kennyburkamp4054]

I am surprised that you didn't make a comparison or joke about a certain rwby character that got magnet powers even once when taking about the orchis it core power even does a shield frown like pyrrha and even canonical it brings the shield back though magnetism like her

[@LittleMaskot]

Ok so guess i know witch is the parade mech and, withch one the baronies use to make the un wanted disapear..... that one is the literal boogeman.

[@gabe8763]

this guys funky whast the hewll horous dio ti my boy the minotuar

[@hwaht8084]

I'm trying to think it over... if it's a Protocol to become intangible yourself, and you can make someone intangible as a quick action and they're within a burst 3 of a husk, what's stopping them from moving 3 spaces? Am I not getting the movement?

[@11dragonkid11]

That's because those two are different actions, you use Grammaton Mantle to become intangible yourself, and you use Execrate on other people instead.

[@hwaht8084]

@@11dragonkid11 Ah, I mean you become intangible as a protocol, at the start of your turn until the start of your next turn right? And when you're intangible, you can't interact with those who aren't? But if you quick action them into intangible, they're alone until you can activate it on yourself?

[@11dragonkid11]

Calendula is part of the Minotaur license, you have MORE THAN ENOUGH tools to figure out how to stop or slow people down@@hwaht8084

[@belliebun4529]

So Calendula is basically the Lancer version of Warframe’s Limbo.

[@MercSet1]

They made Captain America the mech

[@kennyburkamp4054]

You mean pirra the mech

[@torymiddlebrooks]

Comment for engagement

[@jseebohm2]

is there a pdf for these new frames?

[@11dragonkid11]

It's, in the title? It's from Field Guide on KTB

[@sgregory0753]

Hey did you used a clip from Spriggan?

[@11dragonkid11]

yup

[@sgregory0753]

@@11dragonkid11 A cultured man I see

[@PandorasFolly]

Captain Karrakis

[@igorsousa7415]

EMPAAKAI IS COMMING

[@mr.cobalt1668]

So basically Calendula is just Limbo from Warframe?

[@thepopulargirl1784]

Is Orchis the only SSC frame that isn't named after a moth/butterfly?

[@galmenz6118]

its an RKF frame (SSC alt frame for mechanics sake). this is noticeable because the RKF frames are named after flowers (such as the other frame, calendula)

[@galmenz6118]

played a House Guard III LL 2 orchis. loved the frame, but man the perfect parry and the black witch gear left me underwhelmed... im sure it works cleaner on LL 6, but boy the mag cannon needing 2 d20s of dice (attack and hull save) to pull off and every other ability being like that also is kinda miserable... royal guard is amazing though. wave dashing on the battlefield made it cool at the very least. but yeah, after playing it i can confidently say i deeply hate how flying works on LANCER, and the distinctions of what constitute a "character", or how PCP only works for allies on their turn, amongst other nitpicks

[@arturcoutinho415]

first

[@cryzz0n]

Fun fact! While Invades might not count as tech attacks against allies (as they auto-succeed and specifically "[do not] count as an attack"), the Swallowtail's "Markerlight" and the Goblin's "OSIRIS-CLASS NHP" do not say you cannot make their tech attacks against allies. This would allow you to meet the conditions for Void Husk, and, if your DM is okay with some out of combat-prep, Execrate your entire team. As you can stay Intangible as a protocol, you can then ferry your entire team behind enemy lines before repeating the process to create an exit, creating an extremely chaotic ambush. In combat, this is not as effective, as it takes too much time to set up, but can be done on a smaller scale. Send your Blackbeard friend to the Shadow Realm, then Execrate a hostile character. Properly timed, this can open up for the BB to grapple them and drag them straight to hell. And if your DM rules Invades can be made against allies as attacks, this all becomes even easier. Food for thought.

[@riptorusa]

Thanks for the vid!