Sitting Down With a Real ℌệ𝔫𝔱ằ𝔦 Artist (ft. Shindo L) | Trash Taste

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[@RoyalSouls]

I haven't finished the EP yet but did you guys bring up the JoJo ending of metamorphosis?

[@marcnassif2822]

@@RoyalSouls Yes for like 2 seconds

[@nijiiro2134]

You really had me so scared when y’all talked about the ending because I’m never sure when the conversation is over

[@Kage-jk4pj]

Why was this comment so late

[@seyyednaqvi6760]

@@Kage-jk4pj dog niggas.

[@moralesrichmondrovic5348]

"How is birth not vanilla" ShindoL is truly living in a different plane of existence

[@Ammar-ve2mw]

Sauce

[@lanternli1ac]

@@Ammar-ve2mw what-

[@user-wy3lx8nh7u]

@@Ammar-ve2mw 1:25:58

[@syahidkacak]

Well it's not that bad compared to unbirth

[@warmpereer65]

what is the sauce shindoL is refering at 1:23:37?

[@Zero001]

Bro i swear every artist/creator/director that makes "fucked up" shit is always surprisingly chill.

[@pranitp.29]

Yeah lol this guy is surprisingly wholesome

[@StkyDkNMeBlz]

and the opposite happens to people like Hayao Miyazaki who directs wholesome shit but is not as chill as you think

[@jack90054]

@@StkyDkNMeBlz Tbf, Miyazaki is a well-known "cultured" guy too. Many female characters in his movies have very animated jiggle-physics.

[@xiiir838]

@@jack90054 which one? I've seen most of them and the ones that I have to watch seems wholesome asf

[@hollow8136]

Also tends to be the same from the consumer end too. I used to help a friend screen people for art commissions. People who wanted really funded up hentai? Super sweet and polite people. Always understanding and patient. People who wanted the most vanilla stuff? Complete dicks who acted like they were entitled to the art and always nitpicked every little detail. Odd how that works out.

[@Frozenbozo]

ShindoL: "why not just go a step further" this man taking humanity to places no one has ever thought to go

[@Hatchling99]

Funnily enough, go a few steps further from there and you get a milf..... what Connor is into

[@jbark678]

He's thinking so much about whether or not he could that he never stopped to think if he should.

[@chimedemon]

@@jbark678 I’d say since it is fiction, it’s the perfect place to push things.

[@imarock.7662]

@@chimedemon That's fair.

[@kaptainriflebeard5980]

You know what? If Connor thinks that a mom would never blame her kid like that in Metamorphosis, then kudos to you man. You grew up well with a good family and mom, something a lot of people would wish they had

[@amare2014]

the video he did with his mom was wholesome. her mom really felt like a genuine good person.

[@petersansgaming8783]

Yeah. I really don't think he meant that statement maliciously, he just grew up in a nice environment and never experienced a story like that first hand or second hand.

[@davidreacts8786]

Bruh don't be a fricking bitch man. He clearly said that he now recognizes that there are horrible moms out there.

[@alexanerose4820]

I mean most people grow up like that (most of humanity for example) so I don't get what the big deal was

[@ayofrtho7014]

@@alexanerose4820 people are just fckn sensitive lmao

[@MrHidePatten]

“ShindoL what inspired Metamorphosis?” “I grew up in New York” “Ohhhhh”

[@danielchang4671]

New York is worse

[@lanternli1ac]

Nah detroi-

[@neonxnational]

at it's not New Orleans or Detroit, he'll make it more darker

[@goldenstallions8643]

@@neonxnational just wandering, but what's up with Detroit??

[@neonxnational]

@@goldenstallions8643 3rd most dangerous city (Forbes source)

[@BeatPeet]

I never would have imagined a reality where ShindoL explains the birthing-tag to an utterly confused Connor. What even is this life

[@kaantax8666]

THE GOOD TIMELINE

[@iris-hv3jp]

What minute ??

[@MetalMike87]

He looked so confused, that I couldn't stop laughing 🤣

[@PrixtoTNT]

@Tomasz Węgliński What the actual hell To think some people get turned on by... oh God

[@linkholder]

It's Epic

[@Dthcactuar]

You know someone truly loves "cultured" content when they basically say, "I can probably make a non-ero manga, BUUUUUT..." absolutely the best part of the podcast. Dude is a legend.

[@emiki3332]

thats 55:33 for the cultured clippers

[@veritasmod7013]

@@emiki3332 thank you

[@armaanb.6566]

@@emiki3332 Lmao probably the best moment. He is such a legend.

[@Rico-oz4ct]

buuut.. it wouldn't make nearly as much money

[@___xyz___]

@Emiki the hero we need

[@isaac10231]

_Garnt thinking about the worst tag possible_ "Eye penetration" ShindoL - "I've done that."

[@abdiabdi3225]

Honestly the one that has the most fucked up but not as depressing doujins is John K. Pe-ta 🙃 If you know you know

[@averageweirdo9362]

@@abdiabdi3225 well one of his doujins were pretty wholesome if you take out the nipple penetration shit 💀💀💀

[@TAlpen]

@@abdiabdi3225 I feel old knowing it, a lot of old piece really do be f-ed up

[@matrixkrock]

@@abdiabdi3225 Nah. His hentai isn't that fucked up. Most of his characters have questionable body parts that stretch beyond recognition but that's it. His plotline is pretty light hearted most of the time with a good ending in most of them. His amazing art style and that stretchy style is what makes him different from others. If you want really fucked up stuff, there are authors like 1. Sanyuutei Shinta 2. Kazuhiro 3. Neromashin 4. Kyozow WARNING: Do not search them up If you don't like extreme extreme pervert stuff. (I mean really fucked up extreme)

[@mistared4021]

@@matrixkrock so far Asanagi has had the largest non guro wtf factor for me, if these are worse then I have no idea how bad they can be. Though im pretty sure kazuhiro wasn't that bad iirc.

[@robotman011]

I love this guy. Metamorphosis actually got me to avoid drugs entirely lol. Actual GIGACHAD

[@cloudtone-nyto3776]

GIGACHAD Clap

[@UNIT0918]

That's great to see! I live in a place where meth is a big problem, so the stuff I saw in Metamorphosis is nothing new to me, sadly. So I'm glad the manga might be an eye opener to the lifelong damages drugs can do to a person.

[@menmamadrigal1233]

The running joke is that ShindoL’s Henshin actually made people swear off drugs better than many anti-drug campaigns as it quite literally presents a fucked up situation that just gets worst and worst, it isn’t presented in loud as hell concerts and got their own pep rally groups, no this shit, this shit hits hard, western audiences especially get the themes better than asian people because as he said he grew up in new york and has seen shit

[@ameame32]

Ngl I had thought of trying out drugs but damn reading that made me reconsider

[@PrixtoTNT]

@@ameame32 Imagine trying drugs

[@DekuMav]

The boys really outdid themselves on this one. We really aren't dealing with the average podcast anymore guys!

[@carlvincent12]

Super Trash Taste!

[@lordbauer5983]

Advanced Trash

[@andanjv]

No..... Dont say it............... No..... A SUPER PODCAST!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@kamui5579]

The boys moving from famous to famous FAMOUS

[@AyimeAnime]

I mean it's expected that ShindoL will become one of the guest because Joey interview him back then.

[@codyjackh8051]

ShindoL, the man himself. I know Joey has interviewed him before. But excited to watch a whole episode with him. Had some questionable nuts but a great tine.

[@22515362]

Just wonder how many people are involved in Joey's spider web friendship still undiscovered yet....

[@nirupammalyala4765]

Were the nuts for the doujin or the episode?😂

[@danielsaiko]

​@@nirupammalyala4765 I kinda don't want to know 😅

[@lazybum9732]

@@nirupammalyala4765 well if he did nut then I think hell has a special place made for him 😀😀

[@abangsunday]

say that last sentence again?????????

[@Matthew_Rosenberger]

Shindo L: I think I made her a quadruple amputee. Connor: For what purpose? Shindo L: I mean... why not? I lost my shit and actually did a spit take at work when I heard that!

[@The_Bigger_Cock]

what the sauce tho is what im asking

[@Matthew_Rosenberger]

@@The_Bigger_Cock Fragile and Tough

[@whishwhish917]

@@The_Bigger_Cock 332018

[@voydcat8089]

@@The_Bigger_Cock It’s actually wholesome

[@looneypersoney]

@@voydcat8089 yes, it is

[@ZerenorWinglessAngel]

Joey: "you dont really see ero-manga in the style of ... like Baki" Shindo: in his head: Noted & Challenge accepted xD

[@ctographerm3285]

I see that he's not aware of the Bara doujins.

[@AbiyBattleSpell]

joey clearly doesnt read enough muscle girl ero manga.... course sadly there isnt enough.

[@artuno1207]

That's the best part about today's doujin's though. Just like how sometimes you just want ten minutes of some random obscure porn video to get the job done, you want a quick vanilla childhood friend love story H-doujin that's around 18 to 23 pages. Nice art, good tags, and some of them are actually quite good for being simple and short.

[@tonxski]

Excuse me? Allow me to introduce you to "Kizuki Rei"

[@AbiyBattleSpell]

@@tonxski no muscles

[@killjoym6973]

Glad Connor corrected his statement about moms blaming their daughters, unfortunately it happens more often than u think, some women would do anything to keep their husband.

[@bushy_sleevies]

yup

[@oomay1925]

In some cases the mom was in a similar situation and they can't just comprehend that it was so bad or it's "normal". Like the mom met the husband when she was a lot younger and it doesn't click that she married a p*do :/

[@Dorraj]

EVERYTHING in that manga happens to young girls, constantly. Maybe not ALL of it to one person, but it absolutely happens. To be fair, all of the bois agreed that it was unrealistic, not just Connor.

[@confusedwhale]

@@_orangutan: Are you in a position where you can take in your niece?

[@_orangutan]

@@confusedwhale We tried but the law refuses to act. The system is practically useless for people who try to help. I’ve met people who were in the system and it’s absolute hell.

[@mr.mc.doesntexist7693]

We've had a porn actress, a voice actress, music compers and now a doujin artist...now we just need a fanfic writer and the boy's minds will be blown to bits.

[@isaachester8475]

@Buster head Doujin originally means fan made, but somehow it turned into meaning all hentai manga lol. Edit: ex. Metomorphosis is original work

[@yongli8276]

@@isaachester8475 That’s the case mostly in the west probably because of bad correlation and language barrier.

[@robertderkinderen8928]

they had a porn actress???

[@isaachester8475]

@@yongli8276 Yeah I guess it’s the same with the word “hentai.” Words change meanings when they move across borders. Many English loan words mean something very different in Japan than they do here in the west.

[@sandenson]

Don't forget they had an animator on: Ken Arto.

[@alexamderhamiltom5238]

the bois : "so who our next guest?" meilyn : "just my friend."

[@mariinito4291]

I swear to god, Meilyn has more connections than a 30's Chicago mafia boss

[@abdiabdi3225]

@@mariinito4291 at this point she has access to more stuff and connections than some world leaders

[@sooraj9824]

Isn't shindo from joey's connections though? He did interview him before

[@fsdds1488]

You know in some way Meilyn is the most powerful chap in the TTU, have permanent access to hentai artist, controls trash taste agenda, controls everything, what is she up to. (Its a Yes Minister Christmas special reference, Sir Arnold the permanent secretary of the cabinet is just going to promote one of the main character Sir Humphrey to succeed him, but the minister Jim Hacker had no idea why there are such a meeting between the two and this is his remark.)

[@bigboybastard7162]

@@fsdds1488 world domination. So she can rate all the restaurants and buy all the anime body pillows with scents included.

[@m1kchicken165]

Can confirm: the amputee doujin SHindoL made is in fact, wholesome.

[@cry-o1436]

Sauce?

[@ZaquWasTaken]

@@cry-o1436 332018

[@wtfsamusidk7574]

@MonkeyMuchacho she's great though

[@darkdude1996ify]

The one with the girl in the wheelchair is pretty nice too. 35870

[@kanemochi4400]

Yeah I've read it even the girl isn't whole, their love is wholesome

[@LeeDanielPRuiz]

the amount of frames where Shindo, Joey, and Garnt laughs and Connor is just there sitting gives me the bellies

[@akali2927]

How the heck has no one commented on this?

[@asdqda3033]

@@akali2927 why no?

[@Gurgio]

Those little pauses where they go "oh.. okay... cool..." after Shindo L's answers are absolutely hilarious

[@lewddewdero]

So fucking awkward..

[@akila7445]

Time stamp?

[@velroi]

@@akila7445 a good example is 1:23:35

[@Majister1232]

Damn, Connor was right when he said the next guest would be “exciting” *edit; The boys are really masters of making guests feel comfortable and making it a good conversation.

[@backgroundcharacterj5071]

Probably helps that they're friends beforehand

[@BrosiahChill]

I thought maybe he was referring to a guest they're having while travelling. Didn't know it was THIS exciting! Metamorphosis is amazing.

[@Majister1232]

@@BrosiahChill same haha Imagine my surprise when i saw the guest name haha clicked on it immediately.

[@juancruz258]

"Oh yeah, people are fucked" Shindo L gets it

[@mateuszjokiel2813]

And in his works, that would be the literal meaning as well lol

[@martinfreemon7134]

ShindoL? Holy shit, that's a name I didn't expect to see in this podcast. What's next boys? Gonna surprise us with Asanagi?

[@covalentbond2093]

I want ratatatat74

[@eugeneescalona9478]

Dude, Etuzan Jakusui is where its at

[@covalentbond2093]

@@eugeneescalona9478 and hal I want to know why she torture girls so much in her doujins.

[@muhammadsyafiq1004]

@@covalentbond2093 Hal a she?

[@covalentbond2093]

@@muhammadsyafiq1004 yes, she is married and has a child too

[@skyeye787]

This episode gave us a Welsh man apologizing to a Hentai Artist. An episode for the history books!!

[@ArkvaleColoniser]

1:17:16 I love how Shindo L looks at him after asking him "Are you not into it?" like he's some filthy vanilla casual

[@love-hammer]

LET'S GO! I wish more doujinshi artists talked publicly. Some of them are such inspiring artists, especially ShindoL, that immediately after appreciating their work I wash my hands and start drawing.

[@joellee8056]

Always wash your hands

[@mwuilchku8548]

"Why wash hands if I've got a clean dick?" - asmonbald

[@Daramouthe]

That would be nice, but like he said earlier. There are some still leery on the “world stage” stuff. While I agree they shouldn’t care, to some they still do. Which is sad and rough.

[@asobimouryu9545]

Just use one hand

[@asamedeus7829]

SO TRUE! this is literally how i feel whenever i read metamorphosis

[@jeyoki4147]

I believe Connor when he says he always saw battle scenes and sex scenes as similar. He often read sex scenes in his Yaoi videos as though commentating on a battle, and playing battle music, so completely believable.

[@jojoslameerrand9305]

They are in how they're framed. As someone who's read a lot of both from various areas of the world, in both instances they're extending a moment that lasts around 30 seconds to 20 minutes to an indefinite number of pages. There's a rise of tension and a climax wherein the bond between participating characters and plot is affected in the long run. It's all just the spectacle of intimacy

[@BvLee]

@@jojoslameerrand9305 i mean it's also sort of the whole premise of Kaguya Sama, love IS in fact war lmao

[@bush3126]

@@BvLee Love is war has taken on a new meaning since this comment.

[@lvcrimosv]

as a writer i can confirmed that combat and sex have lots of similarities mechanically and thematically the worst part, however, is when writing it in both situations you're always trying to keep track of where people's limbsare or double-checking if the anatomy is correct or not LMAO

[@marxist-leninist-protagonist]

@@jojoslameerrand9305 So we could reasonably say Goku and Vegeta are friends with benefits addicted to each other.

[@prinnyking4926]

The quadriplegic story he mentioned is in fact wholesome. The story is about salarman and female coworker. 5 years ago or something they got in bad car accident, man was fine but woman lost limbs. Man still feels guilty and woman helps with sex.

[@bozmagic9672]

do you have the numbers?

[@goldenstallions8643]

@@bozmagic9672 332018 that's the number

[@King_Jonghyun]

so she's the one who lost her limbs yet she has to make him feel better? 😭

[@9s-l-s9]

@@King_Jonghyun I know right? Thats fucked up

[@KhoiNguyen-xv4jd]

@@King_Jonghyun 2 months late, but he did an awful job summarizing the plot. The girl got over her accident, but the guy never forgave himself for it. He loves her, and she knows it too, but he never makes a move due to guilt. After a drunken night out, they have a talk about their current situation, and the main "plot" happens. So it is a very wholesome work that I would like to see a sequel with or without the "plot."

[@antonioc.5778]

Never have clicked so fast on a trash taste podcast, the LEGENDARY ShindoL? The same ShindoL that draw a pregnant homeless girl being beaten to death? That ShindoL? Oh boy this will be interesting.

[@horence2360]

Yes. The same ShindoL that had pregnant homeless girl be saved by Josuke’s stand.

[@atToebiscuit]

@@horence2360 Will always be the true ending.

[@horence2360]

@@atToebiscuit I too now believe, that golden hearts exist!

[@CraftyChicken91]

b... b .. b ... based?

[@leviatan3011]

after reading his work, i became stronger as a person. nothing moves me now

[@Eshwald]

Honestly despite what most people think ShindoL is pure degenerate work, I believe that he was able to portray the brutal reality of a lot of abuse victims. Sometimes words are not enough and real images are too personal. He honestly blends the goriness and brutality of SA and other horrific acts while still not resorting to showing straight up images. Honestly he is one of the most interesting guests on the podcast yet.

[@LeoLugus]

A friend of mine read Emergence and actually loved the way it was told specifically because she went through something similar. From her pov it is important to have media that show how brutal it really is and that if you feel shocked and disgusted that's very good, that's what you're supposed to feel if you imagine that stuff happening to someone.

[@FxckAlphabet]

@@LeoLugus its starting to appear more and more media that portray, rape, sexual harasement, abuse, etc but its still taboo to talk about or watch/read/play

[@n1gtwhisper158]

Yall know Emergence isn't his only work right

[@bweeebbb]

@@n1gtwhisper158 yeah but it's the more famous one

[@LeoLugus]

@@n1gtwhisper158 Oh yeah for sure, I'd read TSF Monogatari and Junai Irregulars before even knowing of the existence of Emergence

[@kiarasapostle4thapostleoft984]

This episode was basically just Shindo L watching one of TT's past episodes where Connor trashed on his manga and went "heard you were talking shit"

[@wchan39]

"Hello, Connor. I heard you've been talking shit about Metamorphosis."

[@Scorpiofrfr]

Okay! This is nearly as good as having Pewdiepie on the show lol

[@uwubutnotuwu8921]

Nah, this is on par with the incoming Pewds episode haha

[@zen6529]

He'll come... he'll come...

[@Scorpiofrfr]

@@uwubutnotuwu8921 wait! Is felix actually coming on trash taste???

[@joytroy]

@@Scorpiofrfr he might, but not confirmed

[@beqa2758]

I believe this is an older episode Maybe Bc of that incident with equipment!? (Anyway it should've aired at some point in near future)

[@SuddenClaps]

"People find Transformers sexy" is now one of my favorite quotes. Really enjoyed this episode.

[@OptimalMario]

Me Grimlock no sexy Me King

[@ArionRDAW]

Big Firebird Nicee

[@mitacestalia7532]

WHEEZE

[@anjolopez9500]

JobbytheHong is shaking

[@OptimalMario]

@@anjolopez9500 but Jobby!

[@64Tonstar]

When he mentions "even if you're not into something you still read it and enjoy it if the art is great and it is executed well" or something like that, is the exact reason i read and love Ikezaki Misa's work even though i'm not into yaoi stuff.

[@barakbrooks9288]

Sure.

[@martina6700]

I rarely ever find hot the stuff I read on doujinshis, but I still read because that is exactly what happens

[@ttub5247]

"I just wanted her to die at the end" -Shindo L, 2022

[@gamerboy7962]

Now I'm even more sad

[@lexhowardtanque6751]

@@gamerboy7962 same

[@ssengageisop3952]

Oof

[@naniwo4438]

Tragedy writers in a nutshell

[@tacticalguy6473]

Literal gigachad

[@thighgraine]

They got the man himself on, this is amazing

[@ItsPronouncedShawna]

As another New Yorker who grew up during/in the tail end of the crack epidemic, Metamorphosis was and is the most relatable doujin I've ever read, and I love it for that. I wish more artists in general were willing to portray experiences that aren't everyone's normal, but have been some other people's normal.

[@user-objectX]

新堂エル先生はいつも名作を描かれます

[@weirdy8]

50:00 Shindo L is known for his brutal stories, but Fragile & Tough is proof he's totally capable of making something wholesome.

[@layzy24]

Recomendaciones?

[@herebejamz]

Fragile & Tough is so feckin cute.

[@Lunk42]

Barrier free is still the best imo.

[@stroodlepup]

We need more

[@Dekarowski25]

It was wholesome.

[@lethauntic]

Probably my favorite episode in a long time. Just hearing experts talking about things is cool. Also, I'm happy that Shindo brought up the Quadruple amputee one that he did just for Connor's reaction alone. But it really is wholesome, of which not many doujins of that tag would be classified as (if at all), considering how extreme it is. Which hearing how Shindo talked about his process, it makes sense that he'd do such a thing. One of the things that I personally always liked was trauma and scar type stuff (physical or mental) in particular just for that unique satisfaction of seeing the characters overcome them and have a good life despite that. And that's not even specific to the topic of the podcast, but in general really.

[@dydx_]

I loved this interaction 55:45 G: "Have you ever thought about doing a non-eromanga?" S: "I thought about it, but then I always come back to: It can~ be a Hentai".

[@wchan39]

Yep. He's definitely following Rule 34.

[@sidenote1459]

Having Shindo L on the pod is actually the craziest thing so far. Also the fact that he went and watched your guys's stuff before coming on the podcast is like the most adorable, resepctful thing ever. Awesome guest!

[@Jake-xe5ek]

They got the man himself on! Trash Taste is truly in a league of its own.

[@timebound8883]

There are a lot of things that are said in this video could apply to any artist, much of things Shindo talks about are exploration and trying new things, getting out of your comfort zone is a hard thing and you are always weary of what other people think, but he does it. Mad respect for this guy, makes me want to try harder with my art

[@midoreeeee]

Shindo L's one of the h artists I first discovered. Not a fan of his works but he definitely influenced me to draw h. I've been planning to draw my own doujinshi (I have the idea and some sketches). I just can't seem to get the motivation to start because I get intimidated by anatomy. I can draw girls fine but I struggle with drawing the guy's body

[@saffron7423]

you'll never know until you start ;)

[@keinen.0824]

I'm looking forward to that.

[@Kuro_kon]

Good luck! Looking forward to what you make!

[@fionnanomahony8283]

it's all just practice, use multiple reference pictures as well, ideally of the same person.

[@KHMakerD]

Draw yuri? 🤔

[@SheliakDragon]

Yes, I'm so glad they're talking about separating the fantasy from reality. It's very paradoxical, as a feminist who enjoys sub, dubcon, and even sometimes noncon...but only because there are certain conventions to "smut logic" that we can turn our brains of and let the trope play out. It *is* concerning if there are people who still think consent is optional. But... I'm sure people don't go to interviews expecting certain things to happen on a black couch.

[@baronvonbeandip]

Ehh? What does feminism have to do with consent?

[@mitacestalia7532]

@@baronvonbeandip There are many people who complain about noncon in fiction. 🥲

[@xiiir838]

Don't be a feminist, be better 👊

[@fruitygarlic3601]

@@baronvonbeandip Expanding the laws around sexual assault to protect victims in marriages and families were big aims of 20th century feminism. I don't remember her name, but there was a woman imprisoned for killing a man who would rape her son, and the women's libbers pushed to get her out of prison and reunited with her children.

[@diegoherrera9096]

Connor gets soo sad when ShindoL admits some people did relate to Saki, he's so pure that man

[@Aj00098]

To be honest, I dig his mentality. He really does think of these break out of the box ideas that may seem really odd. But it could relate to a group of people that haven't been represented yet or be this untouched creative gold mine. People like him are the innovator.......but man, does some of those things sound WIIIIIIIILD XD

[@somechinesedude5466]

Hentai roughly translate "weird/unusual/strange - topic/article" You can make whatever with it as long its not common & widely acceptable for norm(aka taboo) and call it as "hen-tai" That's why some erotic manga magazine usually embrace ero-manga abbrevation instead

[@OriginalKorean]

Really cool of them to introduce a new and Emerging artist!

[@DD-kc6hg]

Truly a *transformation* we didn't expect

[@velgard.]

@@DD-kc6hg oi josuke

[@animusswtor4822]

hope this gives him the opportunities to metamorphose into his best version

[@patkundesu]

Nice to see a new person after like 177,013 episodes

[@stealyowaifu69]

The podcast is *morphing* and adapting to new situations and people 😀

[@Wolfedge75]

I've seen some of his doujins and it's a good balance of "Aww, that's sweet" and "Dude, that's really effed up". There's a nice variety of tags and there's gonna be at least one work of his that's gonna appeal to anyone's kinks. Though to be fair... I've seen even more messed up stuff, so take this with a grain of salt.

[@Idiel96]

I remember read one of his work and i like damn this futa doujin actually pretty good then in like 3 page it immediately slapped my face like no! Now suffered by reading this character being bang like 10 ugly bastard

[@serene-illusion]

His work is the epitome of "variety is the spice of life"

[@abcdefgh-hz6pk]

Some effed up manga sauce plz

[@bassy_michaelis_666]

Mr Shindo L to Connor basically: "yo I heard you were talking shit about my series"

[@Spartan-sz7km]

Gotta hand it to Connor to being so open-minded and willing to genuinely learn things from his perspective. It's rare nowadays

[@JohnSmith-ni4kh]

Shindo talking about his favorite tags. Sydney would have been comedy gold for this episode. Connor, Joey, Garnt would be WTF and Sydney would be smiling and asking for more.

[@Soleil.m]

As someone who doesn’t watch or read hentai, I wasn’t sure what I was expecting from this episode, but I’m pleasantly surprised. He seems like a really chill dude.

[@controlcon]

Shindo saying "isn't birth vanilla" sent me dude, man's too used to it already.

[@P99s-s]

I guess in terms of hentai tags that happen in reality, that one has to be high up

[@Error-bh4tj]

What played in my head was the video of the cat that looks like it seen the secret of the world after the lady put a flower on it's head. The interstellar bgm included.

[@Goretantath]

tbh, i see so much tenta everywhere that i think of that as a vanilla hentai experience.

[@PolarBear_ed]

Two weeks straight with interesting guests. I wonder why the view count of Kevin's episode is that low. That was a fun episode, and Kevin's a joy to watch.

[@Zalzirim]

Last week was holiday weekend in US so probably people just touching grass

[@PolarBear_ed]

@@Zalzirim I didn't know that. Good for them I guess

[@Darkrezta]

I think it's just how the trash taste video performed some times. like the video about japanese hostess, although the guest is very interesting it's for very long time like quite a few months not crossed to one million views, and then for the next few month it's crossed 1,2 million views plus and seeing kevin is not a popular youtuber or popular internet personality compared to others, kevin video is performed quite well.

[@aarohgokhale8832]

It's performing normally though. Usually trash taste videos accumulate approximately a million views over time

[@wisefelipe]

Maybe it is just me but the fact they are not in the set may also be a factor? Some people may have not realized it was a full on episode when scrolling by it

[@fuumakotaro1173]

I was waiting for him to talk about his work on the mobile game Taimanin RPG. Too bad its on the closing segment, not much was said. He nailed most of the character he created especially Fuuma Amane. Hopefully he did more for Action Taimanin. Amane is long overdue to be playable character.

[@Jptorrent004]

Yoooooo I didn't know he worked on Taimanin, that's awesome (even if it's just the game)!

[@jmgkamezuk]

This podcast was so good! Like the questions and the way that the boys made shindoL feel comfortable and made it a good conversation... Everything was good! And for me as a fellow comic creator and writer, this was liquid gold for info and knowledge. Once again... Thank you so much guys! I'm making your average hero comic for webtoons, but right now I'm trying to make an exclusive R18 GL with some different story telling and this helped me so much... Thank you sensei!

[@DenLim123]

Connor admitting his mistakes? What timeline are we living in, glad he finally realized he overestimated human beings, there are more shitty ones than good one, my father is a good example, chose to side with the woman he remarried and disowned my sister

[@someguy3263]

My condolences.

[@friendlyneighbourhooddegen4739]

I think if there was ever a take for Connor to appropriately backpedal on, it’s this one. It’s immensely naive to believe that it’s uncommon for families to blame or disown their children on claims that they were raped/SA’d by a family member. It happens all the time. And no, not just in third world patriarchal countries and religious fundamentalist families. It happens EVERYWHERE.

[@Donovarkhallum]

I wouldn't say more bad then good but def a good bit of bad out there

[@dheiyomain6775]

You alright man? I can listen to you

[@generalautism7406]

Damn bro. Anyways.

[@just1it1moko]

me:*reads manga with beautiful art and really hot girls* the manga:*suddenly has a very depressing twist* me:*checks artist* "ShindoL" me:"aaah!"

[@ThalonRamacorn]

Would you please share which one? :D

[@jeffington1224]

Most hentais nowadays seems to be depressing af, rape, gangbang, NTR, cheating, monster rape I just want my vanilla stuff and all we get fed is vile stuff 😭

[@Sycafox]

The Light Novel Asanagi works on as an Illustrator is written by the author of Mushoku Tensei btw :) Also one of the reasons why Rifujin won't work on new MT stuff or rewrite the WN stories starting with Redundancy: He stated that he wants to finish [edit: ofc he wants to finish the MT LN release as well first, and it's one, a maximum of 2 volumes] Orc Eroica first before going back to the Stories from the six-faced World (MT universe). And boi, look up Orc Eroica, Thunder Sonia is everything you want to have in a Rifujin story drawn by Asanagi.

[@danielalmeida7382]

Orc Eroica is amazing, one of my favorite light novels.

[@HaaruteLIVE]

"What do you want to do in the hentai world?" "I don't know. Everything." THIS IS THE MAN.

[@ItsShaz1]

lol

[@veritasmod7013]

57:05 for anyone who wants to clip.

[@Spartan-sz7km]

Time to commission him

[@ph-enrenaich.951]

I guess my personal fave Shindo L doujin, was the Fate doujin of Boudica, cuz dang it's quite historically accurate. Tho the most wholesome doujin I've seen from him is one where there's a delinquent boy, and a rich girl, they did the do, and the boy becomes her bodyguard. Edit: Also Shindo L's happy end in Metamorphosis is that Saki is actually an actress, and Metamorphosis is actually a movie or series.

[@looneypersoney]

What's the title of boudica and delinquent doujins?

[@athinagesmundo2928]

@@looneypersoney found the title. Dame da kono ojousama hayaku nantoka shinai to

[@looneypersoney]

@@athinagesmundo2928 thanks

[@fettwampe]

Now that's a guest I didn't think, would ever come on the show. Wow!

[@yakitatefreak]

Joey interviewed him before. But damn it’s spicy.

[@willku9000]

I was listening to this in the background while working on a Transformers model kit of Windblade (a girl Transformer) and I don’t remember the time code but heard yall say there’s a lot of H Dojin based on Transformers… honestly not only can I totally believe that, I’m pretty sure this kit I’m working on was designed by an H artist, because she’s insanely pretty and also has quite a Defined ass for a Transformer. Seriously look it up! Like I wouldn’t necessarily call it a Dumptruck Ass, mostly because she canonically turns into a plane (the model kit does not transform) but it is there and appears to have somewhat realistic Squish (despite the character being made of Metal). Fully official Transformers product, but they clearly commissioned someone Cultured.

[@rottencore3286]

the furai model is out? nice!

[@willku9000]

@@rottencore3286 who? I bought it because of the character and Design. Was it designed by a Specific artist with a following? I’d love to know

[@serene-illusion]

Hey is it just on my end or did my reply here get deleted by youtube? Genuinely curious

[@rottencore3286]

@@willku9000 the flame toys windblade furai model

[@yobrethren]

oh hell yeah, i think i saw pics of her several years ago and can see what you told, looked it up just now as well

[@Af-sb6qg]

His calm tone makes anything he says sound normal and casual

[@melio0504]

I love how Joey and ShindoL wearing dark clothes and there's Garnt and Connor wearing light clothes.

[@thatBigfuu]

Unconscious decision

[@nicolelouise7295]

And they're on different sides of the table

[@8koi245]

dark timelane issues

[@KraftLawrence1]

50:50 It really WAS a wholesome AF story, and i wish it was long enough to be a whole volume.

[@brunoxd151]

The amount of patrons is about to double after this episode

[@arcanask]

ShindoL gets it. No dirt on the current stuff but the mid 90's to like mid-00's H doujins hit different. They had a story and the art had a great balance.

[@startnetworkbabinski3036]

I agree with the long stories but I actually prefer the art now. Even if there was a few gods in the past, the average is a lot better right now. I remember a lot of very sharp faces, pointy noses... Characters were more "2d", hair was stiff..

[@arcanask]

@@startnetworkbabinski3036 oh yeah. The art has definitely gotten better overall. No argument there. However there was period in early 2000s where everything was firing 100.

[@ctographerm3285]

@@arcanask I don't disagree, but for me atleast I know my nostalgia is doing some legwork on my biases for the 'older stuff'. Also, most of early-2000s works and earlier are uncensored, so...

[@sameerpharma4906]

Man Trash Taste sure has had some massively talented guests on, having Shindo L right after Kevin Penkin made me realize it.

[@requiemforameme1]

Honestly, hearing Shindo L grew up in the "bad old days" of New York makes so much sense.

[@joytroy]

The one and only ShindoL! Thank you guys for properly introducing him to us!

[@TheMarineGamerIGGHQ]

This was actually one of the most interesting podcasts still To hear such a detailed side of such a "quiet" industry and being exposed to how down to Earth and established it is, is so interesting

[@pedroteixeira5191]

And the Patreon rises again, looking forward to the episode boys!

[@saltysalamander8519]

They most likely over-exaggerated how much they cut out, leaving the "uncensored version" extremely lackluster, just like all their other uncensored videos on their Patreon

[@zeno_2688]

@@saltysalamander8519 I mean the studio aint gonna pay itself

[@saltysalamander8519]

@@zeno_2688 People won't want to subscribe to the patreon if they don't release any unique content

[@justalostlocal]

@@saltysalamander8519 I think many ppl just want to support the bois without actively getting sth back.

[@je6485]

@@saltysalamander8519 They have 11k patrons without releasing any episodes that required uncensored content (minust their specials and hentai/doujinshi episodes). I think that people are supporting TT for the sake of supporting the bois.

[@naomifiction2255]

He isn’t just any eromangaka, he’s the legend who created my (and many others’) PTSD towards a certain 6 numbers.

[@kokirij0167]

I’m not even kidding, 177013 is one of the only number combinations that is etched into my brain

[@anilkumarhansda8087]

Hmm try this 97933

[@GDIGhostStalker]

Even before Emergence/Metamorphosis became a meme, ShindoL managed to disgust even people on 4chan with his Yotsuba& doujin, which is where I knew him from

[@tangerine7068]

Yotsuba?? I love that manga. I'm scared to look at what he did

[@afteritsallsaidanddoneisti9285]

​@@anilkumarhansda8087 bruh wtf 💀

[@leogazebo5290]

A trash taste special were the Bois make their own doujin. Ngl a more depressing Metamorphosis would probably create a more wholesome Jojo ending, therefore balance as all things should be.

[@ordinarilyextraordinary8067]

I know you boys probably see a ton of these messages every upload but I wanted give my own piece. I really appreciate the weekly videos and how entertaining every single one of them are. I recent got diagnosed with covid and it's kicking my ass right now, but watching trash taste makes it all that much easier to deal with. Thank you for what you do

[@jvtps765]

Wish you a quick recovery my dude

[@pogituna]

yo i had covid last jan too and i just watched trash taste everyday lol hope you recover soon

[@jeggalicious]

I'm kind of in a similar situation right now, listening to trash taste to get through this crazy stomache flu. Wishing you a fast and easy recovery

[@decilence6184]

Remember to hydrate , i drank lots of gatorade.

[@1218Draco]

If he became a teacher, he’d be an eromanga sensei

[@gerardalvarado4432]

I fucking hate this, take my like

[@lokksiders__2151]

He doesn't need to. In Japan the word 'sensei' also used for comic artist and doctor too.

[@name_adi]

He already is

[@SiilanPies]

Mangaka are already referred to as sensei.

[@vrushalikalyankar4662]

Metamorphosis ended with her and her daughter in the park living a life. No one can change my mind

[@fahrenheit2101]

I actually only ever saw that ending, so I was really confused when I heard about the death thing Or maybe I'm misremembering idk - or I blanked it out lol

[@wyzard2227]

​​@@fahrenheit2101 Saki was actually dreaming while overdosing, which lead to her death. Dreaming the park scene.

[@fahrenheit2101]

@@wyzard2227 wait whaaat? Damn I'm stupid, I thought that was legit.

[@Fadhil-bz9ro]

the jojo part 4 ending...

[@Phane02]

Why is Sydney not on this panel? It's like her expertise and one of her favorites!

[@GreenMonkeySam]

They should have a bonus episode where it's just Shindo and Sydney

[@LuvMox]

The world is never gonna be ready for the conversation between those 2 😭

[@PrograError]

@@LuvMox the amount of trash... earplugs ain't gonna help... cos it's still gonna bleed out

[@tims3329]

ShindoL and Sydney on After Dark, having a few drinks, would be the best. Or on Sydneys channel, going to some themed bar.

[@menmamadrigal1233]

Fairly sure Sydsnap was traumatised reading Henshin

[@henoji777]

55:45 "I could create manga.... But it could be a h manga." Amazing. Lmao I'm morbidly curious about the planet of the apes one now too. Can monke do a joke read of it? 😂😂😂 Rlly proves rule 34 lmao Really interesting ep! Great guest great hosts. Hope sydney gets to interview shindoL as well bc that would be an equally fascinating convo -Never forget clamp started off as doujin artists (jojo fankids hatching from egg hahahaha) -Re:social media art what rlly frustrates me is when an artist draws for a fandom then deletes it if they become too big and/or move onto another fandom T0T I get that you might not like your old work but that fanart is smth I still would look back on and smile if if weren't gone!! 1:10:00ish I'm so glad the censorship rules were touched on bc I get so confused 😂

[@daikaiser9394]

Playmate of The Apes

[@covalentbond2093]

Morbid? Morbius 😱

[@dand4139]

Shindo L is easily one of the chillest people to be on this podcast

[@tatojack]

I'm literally Connor this episode. Just vibing, letting the fans fangirl out

[@jasmine_candle]

this episode has the most explicit topics, yet it's one of the most wholesome episodes in some unexplainable way

[@chyuame]

I laughed so hard when they think they have f’ed up tastes in tags only for ShindoL to be like “that’s pretty vanilla to me” to some very unorthodox tags. I think my tastes in tags are also on par with ShindoL as well, because some of the tags that are commonly considered to be messed up (like ugly bastard or NTR) are pretty tame to me. Their talk with him is so cool and I’m very glad they had him as a guest, exploring kinks and seeing how beautiful art in hent@i can be is so fascinating to me.

[@B_bang22]

I never knew about the guy behind Shindo L and kinda thought he was really fucked up but had great art. However he's a genuinely funny and chill guy, one of those instances where you separate the artist from the art

[@armaanb.6566]

Yeh i've learned now that the art doesnt have to reflect the artist in real life

[@kv4648]

Wdym? his work is fine, even decently vanilla to some extent. I thought the whole notoriety about his infamous work was because it has been an icon for so long and for the meme, not actually cause they're the worst things

[@B_bang22]

@@kv4648 Bruh hes made some pretty other messed up stuff lol such as shenjo no Hana

[@xiiir838]

@@armaanb.6566 you're awaken

[@MyVanir]

@@kv4648 Most of his stuff is quite definitely NOT vanilla.

[@caison8759]

"People are fucked." -Artist of Metamorphosis

[@Lunk42]

No better inspiration than reality itself.

[@Goretantath]

such truth.

[@mitacestalia7532]

I always say human is scarier than ghost for that reason

[@borisaustria4301]

Facts.

[@ettoreozzy9932]

They talking about some doujin being more about story is very true since Shoujo M by Suzuki Nago is still by today the most disturbing thing I've ever read and couldn't keep my eyes away throughout the whole thing. The story blew me away that it kept me hook to it even though it was so messed up. Don't really recommend to people though, specially if you couldn't stoumach Emergence (Henshin -metamorphosis-) by Shindo L.

[@f1r3hunt3rz5]

Hmmmmmm

[@abdulamar9907]

Holy shit, Shoujo M. I thought I've read messed up shit, but Shoujo M, even from the start just straight up terrifies me. Plus I'm also not a big fan of NTR, even if I know Shoujo M is well written. I just read the last chapter after the first and straight went "nope, just nope."

[@sammiesauls8365]

I just saw this comment and immediately read it. It was disturbing but I'm glad his wife left him. He sucked and I wish worse happened to him. I literally skipped through the s3x scenes just to see the dialogue

[@sammiesauls8365]

I am confused about one thing though. SPOILERS FOR SHOUJO M - - - - ________________________________________ Did she want to experience what the original girl went through or did she just want revenge. I'm so glad the original girl got past her trauma and met someone nice and I hope she can heal.

[@abdulamar9907]

@@sammiesauls8365 I wish I can answer that question. I didn't even go through it completely. Shit like that scares me man. I'd rather watch guro/snuff/human cattle stuff, that freaks me less than psychological things like Shoujo M. That said, yeah, dude's a dick, and good for the wife to have left him.

[@JIYkp]

It takes 1:43:00 before Connor realizes he could have been talking about Apex with ShindoL instead of pregnancy and eye-penetration.

[@The_Rum]

This is what i love about Shindo L, He always put effort the in the story. It's makes it so much memorable.

[@f1r3hunt3rz5]

I keep _coming_ back to this episode. It's a testament of how this episode is peak Trash Taste. Best one ever for me.

[@LloCiDul]

I literally said, out loud, "Fuck. Yeah." when I saw it was Shindo L. Now this is podcasting.

[@xavieralejandrorodriguezca3531]

This is a Big highlight of my year ngl it's the legend himself.

[@JohanFaerie]

When you hear the Author of Metamorphosis, you would think he's fucked up in the head, but Shindo is actually just based. He seems chill, a bit weird as you'd expect a ero-manga creator to be, and cultured in several senses of the word.

[@fluffiestbiscuit]

Just like how Junji Ito is, makes the most disturbing art and content out there but is too nice of a guy lol

[@saffron7423]

@@fluffiestbiscuit Ito sensei is wholesome asf :')

[@remyhavoc4463]

The author of Nagatoro has made some questionable hentai in the past and most of them look way too similar to Nagatoro herself, but reading the manga. It's one of the most wholesome reads I've had in a while. Like, the wholesomeness level is up there with Komi-san 💀

[@mitacestalia7532]

Honestly, in the end fiction exists for narrative story. We should really never cover an author based on their work. 😂

[@somechinesedude5466]

Psyhopath usually good at hiding among "good" person 😀

[@PentagramIndustries]

Kinda wished they asked him about what caused his shift from being a vanilla only artist to being a NTR artist, and what caused other artists to follow suit. Because many artists started off as vanilla only, but then also jumped ship into becoming a NTR artist. Asanagi, Fuetakishi, Yuzuki N Dash, Meme50, Rocket Monkey, Itou Eight, they all had humble beginnings, but then began doing some twisted stuff. And I want to know if it's because they want to do their own thing or is it because it's what popular on the market right now. I wished they went back to doing vanilla.

[@jonathantan1447]

At 1:20:44, Joey kinda asks a similar question. Can check out his answer

[@deathonion404]

@@jonathantan1447 that's sad lmao, so much good art ruined by terrible tags (subjective)

[@ayneeldesu2221]

Vanilla is boring,after experiencing it many times it gets overly repetitive,NTR an other tags bring a new spice to the mix

[@anonymousweeb5518]

Ntr sell more by brother thats the sad reality

[@hellishere5615]

I really like ShindoL works other than metamorphosis like tsf monogatari, poultry farm, moroku gankyou ni ,and more because of how unique and interesting the story is and his art style is really fantastic one of my top ten favorite art style ever

[@layzy24]

Which is his next best fucked up series beside metamorphosis?

[@DarkLordoftheOldRepublic]

@@layzy24 poultry farm. DO NOT READ THAT.

[@hellishere5615]

@@layzy24 hmm... There's so many to choose from but if i have to pick i guess poultry farm

[@layzy24]

@@DarkLordoftheOldRepublic Lollll. Aight I read some of the other works that others in this comment section recommended and they were all trash. Like the limb less girl

[@hellishere5615]

@@layzy24 well we are at the trash taste channel

[@VadamDxD]

As an artist who wants to make a living through their art this is my favorite episode by far. Hearing Shindo's insights made me feel like I could actually relate with someone when it comes to art.

[@justanotherweirdo11]

I read the quadraped one and I forgot ShindoL made it. It was indeed pretty wholesome. Out of all the ShindoL things I've read the cow one stuck with me the most. It's a statement on the meat industry and it's all real and it's like you definitely got to think about what you eat and the ethics of how animals are treated.

[@SpiritThanatron]

Another banger of an ep I get to listen to on monday. Trash Taste Boiz, you make my 2-hr long drives to work and between jobs infinitely more bearable, thanks lads.

[@IsonDaya]

Aw, he actually mentioned the one about the quad-amputee. Believe it or not, it actually was wholesome, as long as you were okay with the scars. Fragile and Tough was the translated name.

[@justrandomotaku]

Probably the most wholesome and vanilla work from shindoL... the other stuff is just insane and too much for me LOL fk this guy for recommending the cultural anthropology one cause I wish I didn't check it out

[@somechinesedude5466]

Borderline token amputee intercourse But it is good

[@jirojhasuo2ndgrandcompany745]

Yeah the only wholesome h he did lol

[@cb5011]

It really was a sweet one... and ditto that 'Cultural Anthropology' was hella different spread to get to that. Also the bonus story with the two ladies helping each other out.

[@AggressiveLemur]

The story he talked about at 50:00 is super wholesome and sweet

[@Liitaro]

I don't even know if this was intentional but I have to point out how well their shirts are matching for this episode

[@Gemcy]

I just noticed and yeah wow

[@alexanderginger754]

You mean the dark side and the bright side of the table?

[@MADKapo]

Joey and ShindoL on the Dark Side. Full-on degenerates. Garnt and Connor on the Light Side. Still not fully degenerates. Perfectly balanced.

[@samuraijack2857]

Goddamnit. It was always been a foreshadowing.