There are TOO MANY Sabers in Fate

[@user-fi7tb1xz3d]

Conner: How many Rins exist? Gigguk: Less than Sabers Conner: do you have the slightest idea how little that narrows it down

[@Miles_Moraless]

Nasu: Not enough...

[@yaliyumegami2033]

we only have 4 rins, we have at least 20 sabers and there is another coming...

[@Miles_Moraless]

@@yaliyumegami2033 Saber class or do you mean the character Saber? ;)

[@amithabraham2224]

@@Miles_Moraless Joey: Saber!!

[@yaliyumegami2033]

@@Miles_Moraless I mean Saber faces, Artoria whatever lul

[@comixproviderftw_02]

Garnt: Fate is a mess. Also Garnt: It’s really not that complicated.

[@hoangdung7494]

well yeah, it's a mess but not that complicated...

[@razelanquartzsaver6419]

The funny thing is...it really isn't.

[@zusfrankenstein8561]

I agree, it's not that complicated, but it's impossible to make it not sound complicated when you're explaining it to someone new.

[@P99s-s]

Zus Frankenstein it seems worse from the outside

[@Eliras24]

@@P99s-s it's not like it seems

[@MrSuave_]

"Rin... Rin's my girl. From Fate/Zero" Officer he's right over here.

[@xhydrox]

Lol

[@rakoonshampoo2608]

I mean, she WAS in Fate/Zero.

[@MrSuave_]

@@rakoonshampoo2608 Indeed, she was in Fate/Zero. As a loli.

[@ideasonek3374]

Waver my boy from Fate Apocrypha

[@Moviefan137]

(Sirens begin wailing.) Gigguk: I meant Fate/Stay Night. (Sirens stop.)

[@leonorical5279]

Rin Faces: 4 Sakura Faces: 10 (Kali and Durga I would consider separate as they are aspects of each other) Illya Faces: 4 Jeanne faces: 6 Shiro Faces: 3 Saber Faces: Unlimited Saber Works+

[@DanTE_1203]

make that 5 rin faces since ishtar has 3 classes now then eresh and plain rin or does fate extra rin count as another?

[@leonorical5279]

@@DanTE_1203 I honestly wasn't considering the Fate/Extra version and only going off of FGO which only had Ishtar Archer, Rider, Eresh and Astarte or Space Ishtar. If i recal Extra Rin is a decendent of the Original Rin though i might be wrong.

[@DanTE_1203]

@@leonorical5279 well if not then that makes it 5 counting the OG rin CE's. Sorry I am one of those who whaled in just for a CE (nightingale halloween) yes that's how low I sank in the salt mines

[@leonorical5279]

@@DanTE_1203 fair enough the list was only including servants and not CE’s.

[@salvadortoscano2534]

Seems legit

[@BrasorWind]

Fun Fact, many works of Kinoko Nasu, writer of Fate, were actually rejected by several publishers because they said that although the works of Nasu were good, they were too complicated to follow. To which he and his friend decided to create Type Moon.

[@bjap1563]

I only knew and Grasp Tsukihime/ Melty Blood Series.

[@MrAnonymousme10]

"And let's, make the characters look alike." -Nasu

[@justaguywhoreadsmanga720]

I am honestly happy that they decided to create the moon. Fate is an actually amazing ankme

[@X-Ternal]

Unlimited Nasu Works

[@KhangNguyen-qn4bh]

@@justaguywhoreadsmanga720 you mean Type Moon? Or the the actual moon in the series. Also the doesn’t the moon also have consciousness?

[@zendengade4170]

Not gonna lie, I would probably enjoy Garnt teaching Joey and Connor on Fate: Lore. :)

[@Doctor4077]

Clockwork orange style

[@shadowlance8212]

I would probably Conners reaction to it. More

[@izumi_seiji]

Connor would constantly act like a braindead monkey everytime squeal that it's "muh confusing"

[@shadowlance8212]

@@izumi_seiji yes and his torture would be an excellent watch

[@deisanar]

There should be a fate show called fate:lore

[@water_color]

I love how no Fate fan you meet will actually call them “Red Saber” or “Saber of Red” unless they’re trolling newcomers

[@Karma-pq9fi]

What about dark evil saber and maid dark evil saber and dark evil saber lancer.

[@josephsteven1600]

@@Karma-pq9fi Salter, maid alter and Latler.

[@DiogenesTheCynic.]

You forgot Darth Maul Evil Chunni Schoolgirl Saber

[@josephsteven1600]

@@DiogenesTheCynic. yeah, mostly just changing the names of the ones he mentioned. But Ecchan is bestest Saberface and no one can change my mind.

[@capcubone5070]

So much truth XD

[@ahkilleuskosmos6836]

Weebs: There's too many Sabers!!! Takeuchi: That's a weird way of saying you want more Sabers.

[@crawlingboy]

Fgo masters: of course we want more saberfaces

[@jzesu9889]

He made Waver a saberface, clearly he saw his waifu potential.

[@Kaxaiak]

Takeuchi only draws them. Nasu is the one who makes the lore.

[@dreadnightdew6225]

It's takeuchi's genuine noble phantasm. Unlimited saberface works.

[@zenithdex3181]

@@Kaxaiak Takeuchi is the one with addiction nasu just kind of complies with his crazy antics but there both kind of over the moon anyway

[@LongXue]

"We need Saber Black" fate fandom: but the thing is... there's already black saber and saber of black in apocrypha..

[@mir1999]

Doesn't matter, do it

[@Red-mg4ro]

"Super Saber." The lore term is "Grand".

[@AlejandroRodolfoMendez]

Kuro chan?

[@zenzonerzz4789]

I mean saber of black isn't an arturia clone so he doesn't count.

[@owensands8541]

@@zenzonerzz4789 saber of red isn't an atruria clone either. She's her child but they look different

[@QuillWrites7071]

Joey & Connor: "I don't think I can get into Fate it's pretty high-concept." Garnt: "You think that's high-concept? Let's talk about the Moon."

[@tahaelhour690]

You shut up about the moon

[@revolvingworld2676]

Lets talk about the moon...type moon

[@georgyekimov4577]

@@revolvingworld2676 URUSAI

[@thatboib0tch255]

Saber: You be quiet about the moon!!

[@SmithyWebermanJaegermanJensen]

What moon? We dont talk about the moon

[@ksDawn7]

Fate Series in a nutshell: _Is this C A N O N ?_ *no but actually, yes*

[@KhanhNguyen-mh5ec]

More like We can make it cannon if you want.

[@destinyblade1167]

@@KhanhNguyen-mh5ec more like it's all parallel universes. Even fate/zero is technically a parallel universe

[@water_color]

*haha kaleidoscope go brrrrrr*

[@ceoofjeanneism6777]

No to what you're saying, canon to the Nasuverse

[@Companion92]

Same problem with Doctor Who

[@realkingofantarctica]

Sabers are like Pikachus, there’s a new one every show.

[@idonthaveausername8658]

except that with the pikachus, people still know which is which

[@sdbzfan1]

@@idonthaveausername8658 helps that they're different types

[@k0kiss]

Not to nitpick but a more accurate anology would be a there is always a pika clone every new pokemon game

[@handa6748]

Except there's not a new Saber every show

[@idonthaveausername8658]

@@sdbzfan1 well, there's different types of sabers too

[@STIR-FRIED-SUBWAY-RAT]

Connor: Who likes Saber so much that we need so many? Bruh literally the character designer is a simp for his own design since like 2001

[@tenaciousrodent6251]

He thinks drawing Saber enough times will eventually make her real.

[@atpr3241]

@M J Saber is really a Hisui rip off design wise. Tsukihime came out 2000-2001 hence the comment

[@radmandan773]

@@atpr3241 False, because Saber was designed before tsukihime was made and before takeuchi worked at typemoon. www.reddit.com/r/grandorder/comments/hm6tmz/early_concept_art_of_saber_created_by_takeuchi/

[@atpr3241]

@@radmandan773 Well then I stand corrected. Everyone's a Saber face including Hisui...

[@babanbo-sama2072]

It's Takeuchi's fault! Haha hahahahahaha!

[@DoggyDisk]

It’s actually really easy if you explain that “Saber” isn’t anybody’s actual name and actually a title. That felt like a barrier being broken when I learned that.

[@nobodyinterestingyou]

True. The second you understand that It's just a named class use to conceal their true identity to their enemies during the Holy Grail wars, It becomes logical .Alternate timelines are confusing, but once you know about them It gets easier to follow.

[@averagejpopenjoyer3017]

True, 3yrs ago I just realized i can actually read and to be able to differentiate F/SN to other Fate titles. Niggas really like to overcomplicate crap in Fate series, not to count the whole Nasuverse. Fate/Zero still being regarded as prequel to F/SN lmao. Due to F/Z's inconsistencies to the main route (F/SN), I still don't count Zero as prequel to F/SN series. Zero as "alternate prequel" to F/SN sounds more fitting to me.

[@justnot5401]

Honestly the "there are too many sabers" is only a meme outside of fate watchers

[@bananagod5530]

Ok then. But why the 100+ Saber Faces with different name different origin some from british some an alien.

[@justnot5401]

@@bananagod5530 there's only like 33 saber faces and they're all very easy to differentiate

[@enzoenc]

"I will sink that time into a visual novel before i get into the Fate series" That is literally the least complicated starting point for the Fate series

[@destinyblade1167]

and it's only 100 hours if you rad very slow. I finished it all in 55 hours

[@usernamesarestupid7104]

where can you read it? I still haven't found a way to and I don't want to watch a KZbin walkthrough

[@destinyblade1167]

@@usernamesarestupid7104 The original VN is unreleased outside Japan and was never translated. The best way to read it is with the Realta Nua Ultimate which comes with many patches including HD images, English translation, ops and more music. You can do the patches yourself or you can join the Fate/Type-Moon discord where someone uploaded a version with all the patches preinstalled so you just download and run it. You can find a link to the discord on the Fate/stay Night subreddit(on reddit). I'd share the link but comments with links can get marked as spam instantly

[@usernamesarestupid7104]

@@destinyblade1167 ok, thank you!!!

[@alt4art857]

@@destinyblade1167 do you know where I can play hollow atraxia

[@DJayPhresh]

GIVE US THE 100% FATE PODCAST EPISODE

[@imoutotrash390]

Please

[@cryptical2548]

EXACTLY

[@terrencenoran3233]

And have Connor strapped to the chair as the unwilling victim.

[@simplegarak]

@@terrencenoran3233 Yes! I would legit love to watch Connor slowly lose his mind. Have Garnt wear a white labcoat and stand in front of a white board for the entire thing drawing lines too.

[@fauzanar-raafizackaria9782]

Agreed

[@azflyer117]

No one tell him that there is a saber that is not a saber who's goal is to reduce the number sabers that exist.

[@theochua2810]

MHX is basically Connor but female

[@MintJammer]

Don't forget about the Saber who is also not a Saber who that not-a-saber but due to not having Saber's scabbard, now physically an adult, just not as thicc and older as Saber who is a Lancer.

[@jansaycon8441]

It's even funnier that in Zero, Caster in lore mistakes Saber as Ruler cause she's a Saberface much to OG Saber's annoyance 😆

[@itsror666]

@@MintJammer i got aids reading that

[@whitebunny8315]

Or Saber that is not a saber because she was chosen by a staff instead of a sword-

[@anthonymedina9425]

Weebs: "there's too many sabers" Mysterious Heroine X: "I'm trying this plot armor is bullshit"

[@MugenKitsune]

Mysterious Heroine X Alter: *Munches on Mochi*

[@Kwan_Keem]

The ironic thing is that she has the face of saber......

[@anthonymedina9425]

@@Kwan_Keem dude... She uses Excalibur

[@Kwan_Keem]

@@anthonymedina9425 yes, yss she does

[@FtureCh]

I would watch Gigguk having a 4 hours PCP lecture style podcast explaining fate lore

[@crossdaboss8914]

I would pay for that

[@hamedhasan3088]

the problem is that 4 hours is not enough

[@FtureCh]

if Bestguyever can explain the entire one piece arc in 4 hours, maybe gigguk could explain fate in less than that

[@hamedhasan3088]

@@FtureCh the lore included in nasuverse is much bigger than one piece if he is going to explain " Everything " about it

[@saberbestgirl20]

LET'S GOO

[@friendlyneighberhoodwhale3478]

Well we have a black Saber Connor and so many more OG Saber - Artoria Pendragon Black Saber - Artoria Pendragon Alter Smol Saber - Artoria Pendragon Lily Male Saber - Arthur Pendragon Red Saber - Nero Claudius Saber of Red - Mordred Sakura Saber - Okita Souji Counterforce Saber - Okita Souji Alter Alien Saber - Mysterious Heroin X Lovecraftian Saber - Mysterious Heroin XX Dark Maul Saber - Mysterious Heroin X Alter Santa Claus Saber - Artoria Alter (Rider) Catholic Saber - Jeanne d'Arc Edgy Tsundere Saber - Jeanne d'Arc Alter Smol Christmas Saber - Jeanne d'Arc Alter Santa Lily Milf Saber - Artoria Pendragon Lancer Goth Milf Saber - Artoria Pendragon Lancer Alter Indian Saber - Rani Lakshmibai .......and some swimsuit versions of them Edit : As of today, there is an announcement of a new Saber face - Caster Artoria or Castoria

[@Ozraptor4]

How could you forget Saber Lion!

[@friendlyneighberhoodwhale3478]

@@Ozraptor4 Lancer ga shinda

[@mythgravenn]

you forgot Prototype Arthur

[@friendlyneighberhoodwhale3478]

@@mythgravenn Shit, I forgot. Thanks I'll add it

[@thespikeheadboy3164]

Ya forgot Nagao Kagetora/Creepy smiling Saberface

[@gudakoalter]

5:36 " Saber black, Saber pink" um ... should we tell him about Alter and Okita?

[@Alexandru-T.]

And try to explain why one of them is not Artoria, but is still called Saber?

[@gudakoalter]

@@Alexandru-T. that's just simple. Servants tend to keep their identity hidden during a holy grail war since having a knowledge of their identity could also lead to their enemies finding weakness/fails in their previous life. hence why they prefer themselves to be called in their class names.

[@pregopardon1434]

Blue saber, Black saber, Red saber, and HUGE saber

[@maik5201]

just tell him about Faber

[@mqegg]

I mean Siegfried is Saber of Black so...

[@cryptical2548]

An hour of him explaining fate lore... SIGN ME THE F UP. I would listen to it.

[@ahvin4764]

The answers to the questions they had are super easy: Spin offs are written by different authors - Some authors have interest in writing a story in the fate Universe and the IP owner just goes "go ahead but follow lore". So they unltimately don't matter but add some pieces of world building like more to the magic system and character lore There's actually 4 "proper" incarnations of Saber(Artoria) sword wielder, corrupted sword wielder, lance and corrupted lance. Saber class vs the character - Artoria is widely known as THE saber since FSN is still the most popular hence people calling her Saber when that is just the name of the class she is in

[@JR-eo8cy]

Please do this. It would be amazing to watch the monkey brain meltdown over this again.

[@LuminousOriens]

@@ahvin4764 then there's archuria water gunning people down

[@gudakoalter]

an hour long of explaining fate lore... so were diving in to the long version

[@LuminousOriens]

@@gudakoalter what do you mean? THIS IS THE SHORT VERSION

[@bruhdude1132]

Everyone says "read the visual novel", while my knowledge of Fate just comes from doujin.

[@crawlingboy]

An even better source do you will not experience the glorious defenselessness

[@victorhugocosta1127]

Me too

[@inuhigh4339]

@@crawlingboy you mean the one that doesn't need sure hit or ignore def to penetrate?

[@carrotcake6088]

Technically Fate started out as hentai

[@inuhigh4339]

*Eroge

[@cyber5787]

Well, today is 5th Aniversary for FGO and you know what? They released "ANOTHER" saber!!!

[@renflare2570]

Girl is a power CREEP

[@HaloFTW55]

I come form the future, there is another Saberface but Artoria’s sister.

[@Sev017]

"They're too busy making timeline charts" Nah we're too busy making porn and hentai.

[@vane-zv4pj]

When is the saber hentai coming out?

[@samadams5455]

@@vane-zv4pj I mean there's saber hentai in the visual novel

[@fitriaahsani1286]

@@samadams5455 I love Saber and she is the one that rope me to Fate universe, but ugh I hate her own route in VN 😂

[@samadams5455]

@@fitriaahsani1286 the fate route is the worst route, which is kinda ironic since it's the first and focuses more on Saber than the others

[@devilboy4877]

@@samadams5455 Do you mean the anime adaptation or the visual novel?

[@Frost-tw4qd]

New Fan: How many Saber’s are there? Fate Fandom: How much bread have you eaten in your life time?

[@Frost-tw4qd]

@Super Aventail Oh? You're approaching me? Instead of running away, you're coming right to me?

[@raawesome3851]

@@Frost-tw4qd you skipped two parts.

[@Frost-tw4qd]

MUDA MUDA MUDA MUDA MUDA MUDAAAAA!

[@SuperBladde]

There's never enough sabers

[@Pslyse]

The class or the character?

[@NathanEP]

Garnt “But I don’t have 100 hours” Fate fandom “Then why did you pick the short version”

[@adamchu2001]

If you want the long version Play the Fucking Visual Novel, and Read all of the LNs and Mangas for the anime adaptions

[@victorhugocosta1127]

@@adamchu2001 I tried reading the VN. Kinda boring, to be honest. Would help if they remade it with Live 2D, tho

[@ukiyasenpai]

@@victorhugocosta1127: That is why it is a visual NOVEL. You need to be comitted to read it.

[@victorhugocosta1127]

@@ukiyasenpai I'd just rather read a Light Novel (don't have to wait for voiced lines to load or animations to play), or watch an animation. Most VN's I played (outside of Nekopara and Phoenix Wright) felt like they were the worst of both worlds (literature and animation)

[@ukiyasenpai]

@@victorhugocosta1127 You can just skip the audio parts. That's what the enter button is for. That's what I do if I want to speed read stuff. Most VNs don't have a voice option.

[@fabriziolopez8217]

The thing about saber is that people think nero, modred, etc. Are all artoria so that makes people confused.

[@sdbzfan1]

yeah anyone who actually knows fate know Nero and Artoria are nothing a like the problem is that fate fans are so used to fate we call them by classes which confuses people

[@sabercloud7119]

Mordred is nothing like og saber. Nero was the creation of type moon being lazy and copy pasted artoria only with bigger tits

[@sabercloud7119]

I mean but theres only one saber in each holy grail war so its natural but when things like grand order happen and type moon deciding to make other sabers the saber class that becomes an issue

[@Karma-pq9fi]

I mean they all have the same face i think that's the designs fault on that one.

[@vladprus4019]

@@sabercloud7119 It wasn't "Type-Moon being lazy", but it was basically a clickbait to make people reacting "Wait, she's here? And has different clothes? What?"

[@4rch0711]

"Saber the character or Saber the class?" "There's actually red Saber and Saber of red" Two top tier reasons why Fate is great

[@vladprus4019]

Also we have: Nero Chaos Nero Chaos And all 3 are totally separate characters with no relation Not to mention: Solomon Merem Solomon And: Shiki Shiki Shiki

[@jcl3005]

@@vladprus4019 One of those is technically SHIKI, but yeah otherwise that's correct XD

[@vladprus4019]

@@jcl3005 I'm just rejecting idea of "written in katakana = should be always ALL CAPS when written in Latin script", as it looks terrible for something that is supposed to be just a normal name.

[@colvamoon6962]

No one tell them about Castoria.

[@ponderingForever]

1:25 "Rin's my girl" "From Fate/Zero---" "---From Fate/Stay Night" Good save.

[@ejesus95]

Ikr. If he said from fate/zero he would be labeled as a lolicon lol.

[@raawesome3851]

@@ejesus95 well, she technically was from Fate zero.

[@joshuagross3151]

@@ejesus95 *Blackbeard

[@The_Evening_Sun]

@@raawesome3851 as a loli

[@raawesome3851]

@@The_Evening_Sun yeah, but she did originate in Fate/zero.

[@water_color]

Here’s what I know as far as I’m concerned. Takashi Takeuchi, lead character designer over at TYPE-MOON and all Fate works is in love with Saber’s design. It’s almost kinda scary. Thus, he always calls for more versions, and he has all the sway in the company to make it happen. Doesn’t help that her VA, Ayako Kawasumi is always open to voice more versions since she’s in the same boat lmao

[@mangamanzx]

Ayako Kawasumi is a confirmed Saber fangirl who has said on multiple occasions that she wants more Sabers to voice and collect.

[@water_color]

The irony is that Takeuchi’s first SSR Saber was Void Shiki

[@mangamanzx]

@@water_color the desire sensor shows no mercy

[@DJayPhresh]

It's literally a game mechanic at this point

[@DJayPhresh]

@@water_color That's my only SSR Saber!

[@sanskar4363]

I want a whole episode of podcast gigguk explaining the fate

[@inuhigh4339]

He'll just probably meme the whole lore because of how complex it is in his own standards

[@leemay3097]

He made a video on FATE lore or how to get into it on his own channel

[@sanskar4363]

@@leemay3097 are you talking about the meme one or serious

[@thuranz2773]

I want see him explain Mysterious Heroine X and Mysterious Heroine X Alter to Connor.

[@leemay3097]

@@sanskar4363 "trying to understand the fate series" although he isn't serious at all, I doubt he will do a serious one on podcast unless... Fate Grand Order explodes in popularity in the West more so than it currently is

[@silvertategamiplays]

Oddly enough, when you pay attention to it, the fate series is MUCH easier to understand lol the saber face meme is so great and I love people's confusion when people think they're all the same character. It does hurt, however, hearing someone refer to artoria as THE saber just because she's the most popular saber class, and the person who started the saber face meme

[@btchiaintkidding7837]

Ya, just call her by her name arturia instead of calling her "saber" problem solved ezpz

[@silvertategamiplays]

@@btchiaintkidding7837 that works when talking to fate fans lol but there's a problem when you encounter people who just started the anime or just want to know who "saber" is

[@CptPhilippnes]

About the name, why is her name in the NA game called Altria?

[@crocidile90]

@@CptPhilippnes Nasu tried to 9001 IQ translate which every NA fan ignored because Artoria is already an English name so..... yeah, 5 head move turned into -69 head....

[@markandrew287]

@@btchiaintkidding7837 Kinda doesn't help when about every other character calls her Saber....

[@csko6663]

TTH: Too much Sabers! During FGO 5th Anniversary DW: Here another saber for you

[@albertng35]

Takeuchi like I want to draw more Sabers

[@PharaohofCulture]

Me, a venerated Fate connoisseur myself am like: NOT ENOUGH IF YOU ASK ME!

[@Jorge_Alvarado]

I feel the same.

[@arqueiroXD]

WE NEED A SABER CASTER!

[@PharaohofCulture]

@@arqueiroXD you might just get your wish! New FGO PV came out earlier today and it introduced a character that might just be exactly her

[@crocidile90]

Ah, I see you are a man of culture as well.

[@luzuresky8349]

@@PharaohofCulture you did it for me thanks for saving me like a few seconds.

[@eleosparakhaous]

"Who likes Saber so much that we have this many Sabers?" Old man Nasu, and probably Takeuchi

[@GDIGhostStalker]

Definitely Takeuchi. He’s the one drawing them

[@iwanttoeatyourpancreas6629]

Me

[@DiogenesTheCynic.]

“There is a Red Saber and then a Saber of Red” literally, and completely lost my shit at that because it never crossed my mind. 😂

[@DManVI]

And both of them are saberfaces while also not being actually Saber.

[@firepuppies4086]

@@DManVI though one is more a clone of FSN Saber.

[@crawlingboy]

@@firepuppies4086 also child

[@PaulNBlack]

And neither of them are the OG Saber lol

[@firepuppies4086]

@@crawlingboy yes, and no, evidently she's not... Natural... Though I don't know if Morgan got a bit curious and decided to use her sister

[@d.n5287]

Most of the confusion comes from not calling the servant classes by their actual names and by saying that Nasu really likes Artoria's face and hair

[@mndy129]

2 weeks later... They released Caster Artoria, so she's finally collected all main classes

[@Khadroth]

"Who liked saber so much that we have this many sabers?" Takeuchi. And that is why he's a man of culture.

[@arqueiroXD]

This is probably the funniest part. The artist ended up drawing a waifu that he found so perfect ,that he became obsessed with it.

[@CathPaluigi]

@@arqueiroXD Literally modern day Pygmalion

[@saberbestgirl20]

not even complaining, genius move on them

[@X-Ternal]

I mean, even Caster understands that Saber's best girl. And that's why she's a woman of culture

[@coffeedq9061]

@@arqueiroXD I refuse to believe FGO DaVinci isn't a parody of Takeuchi lmao

[@rickstein3479]

"There are TOO MANY Sabers in Fate" Gundam fans:" LAUGHS IN ZAKU, GM,JEGAN,ASTRAY, EXIA, WING , UNICORN

[@sunnyyee5796]

THAT I CAN AGREE ON

[@Mord12gp]

I don't get it

[@AOTLTng]

@@Mord12gp zaku Mass production type, Zaku high mobility type, Zaku half cannon, Zalu type 1, zaku 2, zaku 2 type c, zaku type c-5, pscho Zaku high mobility type, sniper zaku. I'm not even done.

[@Mord12gp]

@@AOTLTng Makes more sense to talk about the Char Clones

[@artsoldier]

Don't forget the grand dad RX-78.

[@Bdakkon]

Never knew I wanted an hour of Gigguk explaining Fate lore to these two so much. As a Fate fan this is hilarious to watch their pain trying to understand. Conner especially you can see the exact moments his brain just completely tunes out and its great :)

[@Nikolai2i]

I want this !

[@gudakoalter]

Yes release the Long version!!

[@Zero-ef4sc]

1:28 Joey: Rin from Fate Zero. Garnt and Connor: Yeah, from Fate Stay Night. Lmfao, Joey's innor lolicon assuming Garn is talking about the 5 year old Rin.

[@aoitori5328]

Joey and Connor: Confused of Fate Also Joey and Connor: Watched the bakemonogatari series,

[@ShadowOfMassDestruction]

Cause Fate is a hundred times more confusing

[@Daniel-jz9td]

Monogatari is easy to follow, tricky to build but it's just one timeline. Fate is a mess.

[@bern8940]

Tbf, Monogatari is so small compared to Fate so it’s much easier to follow and understand for newcomers to the series. Fate is huge with tons of lore and understanding how the universe works. And when you discover is just one of the series of Nasuverse, it just makes it even more larger. Monogatari just doesn’t even come close to how big Fate, much less Nasuverse is

[@DiogenesTheCynic.]

1:02 “Who likes Saber so much...?” Takeuchi, the artist/art director. It’s his waifu.

[@vladprus4019]

"likes so much" is an understatement. His arstyle is evolving in a way that at this point he draws every character with Artoria's face just with different hairs and eye color

[@Diremagic]

@@vladprus4019 considering arc is my waifu, him overwriting her with sabers face makes me sad and increases my dislike of artoria with every passing year

[@ragingnep]

@@vladprus4019 you also forgot different expressions too

[@raawesome3851]

I like saber too, but damn. I don't want ten different characters sharing the same face.

[@inuhigh4339]

@@raawesome3851 that's the best part of the franchise, I can just keep buying their merchandise and keep rolling for saberfaces till day I broke

[@julietasun_moon4742]

Connor: Who likes saber so much that we have this many sabers? Me: Takashi Takeuchi basically.

[@inuhigh4339]

The Man The Myth The REGEND

[@jerry855202]

Too true, too true.

[@Zerobloodify]

"Kingdom Hearts WISHES it could be that complicated" Don't give Nomura ideas dude...

[@floricel_112]

but it's getting there. Can't wait to see how verum rex (or however the in universe new series will be named) f*ck everything up even more

[@haveagoodday7021]

It's already there though

[@DiogenesTheCynic.]

He’s already trying with FF7R

[@Jake1989dub1]

Fate in the kingdom hearts universe.

[@skyboy884]

Well there are basically as many Soras in KH as there are Sabers in Fate

[@maxord11]

Mysterious Heroine X is literally a character designed to solve the Saber inflation economy. She is also Saber.

[@Phantom_Zone]

So true. Once in a conversation my friend told me she really liked Saber and I accidentally asked her which one. After 10 minutes of her trying to specify which blonde hair sword wilding wifu she liked and a small eternity for me to understand who she was talking about, we both promised each other to never talk about fate. Which was broken seven minutes later when she showed me the picture of Saber-Alter and told me that was the one she liked.

[@mr.international2778]

There aren't enough actually. We still dont have saber caster in fgo lmao. Edit: ya boy can now qualify for grand caster with that clairvoyance EX

[@firepuppies4086]

Well Nero is a saber face, and she can be a Caster so technically, she works

[@Purpletrident]

Nero caster is Saber caster.

[@water_color]

Wait until Morgan comes in LB6

[@DiogenesTheCynic.]

Did you not see the new Lostbelt Opening? They teased a Seiba Caster

[@ProNoobGamer93]

@@DiogenesTheCynic. that was most definitely proto merlin.

[@071cy6]

I feel like the smart kid in class who has already studied way ahead, and classmates are constantly asking questions that seems simple to me.

[@cristiuchiha387]

It's simple.i don't really understand why people can't get simple things

[@charandattamuddana1741]

💯💯

[@mvshenhon8966]

Imagine having so many characters with similar designs its a in series topic and even make a character in universe to try and fix it.

[@ideasonek3374]

yeah but which one? The assassin, the berserker or the foreigner?

[@MoreEvilThanYahweh]

@@ideasonek3374 The Berserker is a separate person.

[@ren96706]

Laughs in star wars expanded universe

[@vladprus4019]

Mysterious Heroine X!

[@ideasonek3374]

MoreEvilThanYahweh she still does extra damage to seybahs

[@Fezy.]

Fate really isn't as complicated as you make it seem lol

[@misterxdyt9439]

Speak your wisdom

[@misterxdyt9439]

@@shivanshmehra3365 sounds simple

[@itzzadi7109]

@@misterxdyt9439 he told. you wat too complex. imma told ya real simple: watch fate zero, then stray night unlimited blades work and then watch the heavens feel movie and everything else is a spinoff order doesn't matter

[@decencysins7801]

For real, they are just exaggerating. it's not really that complicated if you have watched zero and ubw the rest will just follow through. On the other hand, read the VN and finish the entire different routes, and you are fucking done. The spin offs are just there and start whichever you want to start, it's that simple.

[@decencysins7801]

@@misterxdyt9439 believe me just read the VN and finish each different routes, once you are done, you are DONE. There's no need to fret as you may seem, others has different way of listing in different order because they tend to watch it that way, but eventually they just across the same results even though they watch in different order to watch.

[@carbonanza.]

The fact that I laughed the same time as Garnt when Joey said 'Saber the class or the character' made me realize that I'm also far too deep with the Lore...

[@angelojustin23333]

Don't worry man Mysterious Heroine X got your back.

[@fatetestarossa2774]

A sexy saber indeed : ))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))

[@senorcaruso8711]

I have one question for the Fate Fans: How many Astolfos are there?

[@mr.jokermaker4539]

the only ones I know are default Astolfo with armor Astolfo but with a maid bunny outfit

[@josephsteven1600]

2 so far, rider & saber astolfo

[@backgroundcharacterj5071]

three

[@DashedSimpusMaximus]

Not enough.

[@PharaohofCulture]

2.... His base rider form and then his FGO Saber/Bunny form

[@andresvalera1430]

Who's going to tell Joey there is an assasin "saber", a lancer "saber", a master "saber" and a foreigner "saber"

[@kylepingol2975]

Andres Valera and now a caster saber

[@Eye0u]

Lancer "caster"

[@mr.bananaman3178]

Saber of sabe

[@griffinwatson5197]

Also, rider "saber"

[@atharvakulkarni1892]

There is a saber for almost every class

[@xerxed5839]

"THERE'S TOO MANY SABERS!" Mysterious Heroine X: I'm trying ok. I'm trying!

[@hamedhasan3088]

lol I finally got the joke after reading her interlude

[@VicSusilo]

If Connor became a master, he’d summon Mysterious Heroine X for sure

[@tachyon1441]

It is actually simple, saber always refers to the class "saber" and every character who belongs to this class has their own name and the reason they're called saber, berserker etc.. is because revealing their true name gives away their powers

[@adamchu2001]

I use Achllies as an example as you know the heel and the fact he is a rider

[@raawesome3851]

@@adamchu2001 yeah. So people shouldn't refer to Arthuria, or Arthuria black, as saber.

[@tenzinggyalpotamang6323]

But the problem is almost all saber except siegfried look the same even when they are guys

[@cedric15773]

@@tenzinggyalpotamang6323 Except... they don't? Literally all of the guy Sabers look completely different from each other. Same with every girl Saber that isn't a Saberface, and hell, even some of the Saberfaces look different. Mordred has a totally different design from Artoria, and Nero is drawn in a vastly different artstyle. They really don't look the same at all.

[@tenzinggyalpotamang6323]

Bro for someone who has only watches the main fate series they all are the same

[@water_color]

Legit when this was uploaded, I just pulled Maid Swimsuit Saber Alter over on FGO and was just about to level her to max. Sooo... thanks for the catalyst lmao

[@ideasonek3374]

Imagine having quartz

[@EVILCARTMAN96]

I got her and Helena in my first multi summon on that banner. The Waifu Gods have blessed me.

[@Drasko123]

Nice! I also started playing fgo recently and my first 10 roll I got Nero Caster :)

[@crawlingboy]

I am saving for the better thing SHARK NEE SAN AND SPACE SHERIFF

[@GDIGhostStalker]

water I missed Maid Alter after dumping 90 SQ for her (and another 90 for Nobu Summer). Deciding whether or not to whale to get her. And I need to save for Ushi Summer next event too... My first non free 10 roll got me Gil too (the story roll got me Emiya Archer and Cu Doggo). But I use Okita (she’s about to become my 4th 10 bond after Ushi, Cu Doggo, and Emiya Archer) and Jack a lot more. Need to finish Ascending my Tama Lancer, CasKo, Iskander, Mama Raikou, Nero Caster, MHXA, and Eresh as well. Just got Skadi too. This event did let me Final Ascend Melt, which was nice.

[@apaajaboleh104]

Connor : Saber black, Saber pink.... Garnt : There's actually Red Saber and Saber of Red Connor : Oh no, I'm done.

[@DiogenesTheCynic.]

WHO LIKES CASTER SEIBA??? +One More Saber to the pool

[@cronoz-sensei4259]

Gigguk: *is a Rin fanboy* Also Gigguk: *wears Saber swimsuit t-shirt*

[@eugenefindit]

Oh. That's Saber on his shirt? I honestly would not have guessed it. I depend too much on the blonde. 😁

[@cronoz-sensei4259]

@@eugenefindit I know Artoria when I see her. Nero and Souji both have different vibes from her. But who knows, maybe Im just too biased towards Sabers.

[@midiagain828]

All these characters are named Jojo. Conner: Yes I understand. All these characters are named Saber. Conner: NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!

[@TheAnimeEncyclopedia]

Yea but the different jojos make sense they dont all look the same XD

[@cedric15773]

@@TheAnimeEncyclopedia Neither do all the Sabers. The ones who DO look the same are meant to be different versions of the same person.

[@TheAnimeEncyclopedia]

@@cedric15773 im not sure if its actually more confusing now XD

[@CFCbluemofia]

@@TheAnimeEncyclopedia Alternate possibilities like those Choose Your Own Adventure novels. Like... If you decided to spec into a Mage instead of a Warrior, or if you got corrupted by an eldritch evil and became gloomy and pale looking. Now add in a canonical device that can jump between these alternate possibilities, now everything is canon, and yet nothing is canon.

[@warsown4935]

@Joe Becker just because your right, doesn’t mean your correct

[@bradenbinger6550]

Saber is a class for sword bearing heroic spirits. When people mention saber the character they mostly mean Artoria/King Arthur.

[@anthonyautumns5865]

Nah. Sabers are classes that shoot beam. If they don't have beams they cheated and used connections to get in.

[@MrSuperman957]

I seriously don't get what people find so complicated about it.

[@inuhigh4339]

@@MrSuperman957 absolutely and we all already know why there's to many saberfaces and that's because We need more ahoges in Fate

[@tweetugwe1270]

@@anthonyautumns5865 then we have Sigurd who punch his swords like a boss.

[@eightthgie4579]

@@tweetugwe1270 and the first male ssr saber who's not arthur apparently

[@animefanrk2k]

Just to talk about Sabers here: Saber the character expands past the Saber class. This includes regular/blue Saber and her as an Archer-class Servant. Her Alter form has a Saber class and two Rider classes (as Santa Alter and Maid Alter). Saber Lily is the younger still-in-training-to-become-king form. Then there is the alternate timelines of herself as Lancer Saber Alter, who is a Lancer-class Servant, and a 5-star Lancer Saber, who has a Ruler form. Then there is Mysterious Heroine X (MHX), who is an assassin from an alternate dimension that has too many Saberfaces. There is MHX Alter, who is Darth Maul who loves to eat Japanese sweets. Then there is MHXX, who is a Foreigner-class Servant. And I THINK that includes all the Sabers except for Gray, who is not "Saber", but wields Rhongominiad, and has a different VA from all the Ayako Kawasumi-voiced Sabers. Now with this comes what we call Saberfaces. You can already guess, but all of the aforementioned Sabers are Saberfaces because they look like Saber. However, this list expands to include the following Servants: Nero Claudius and all of her forms, Jeanne d'Arc and all of her forms, Okita Souji and all of her forms, and Mordred and all of her forms. Then the list of Saber class Servants itself is quite long, thanks to the ever-expanding Type Moon-verse, combined with Fate Grand Order being a part of it and dumping new Servants into the lore and game with frequency.

[@wiseman46237]

I mean if we would just call the Sabers by their name, Altoria then it really makes everything less complicated when it comes to Sabers and the Saber class. But fate fans are trolls lol

[@animefanrk2k]

@@wiseman46237 Even then, there are 12 Artorias~

[@kenshi3436]

@@animefanrk2k 13 actually if you count the recent castoria

[@animefanrk2k]

@@kenshi3436 Not counting unreleased in English, but yes, there is more~

[@kenshi3436]

@@animefanrk2k oh okay but i miscounted there are 14 of them sorry

[@mordador2702]

5:18 "It seems like, Gentlemen, they really enjoy... Saber." "Which one?"

[@solflixvurn1382]

Wasn't this covered in the base story. All heroic spirits are classified into 7 categories based on their proficiency. They use class names instead of their real ones is to avoid getting their weakness known.

[@BloodrealmX]

It was, and it's a very easy concept to grasp.

[@LuminousOriens]

if they're talking about saber the character, then there's also a couple lancers and an archer.

[@Benjuhmin]

and a foreigner and a ruler

[@crawlingboy]

And a Berzerker and a alter ego

[@LuminousOriens]

Aye those too I guess. I only have a few weeks experience of fgo and have more knowledge from vids and memes.

[@LuminousOriens]

Isn't there an assasin too?

[@Saiyagami]

Yeah but they dont look so similair like Mordred, Nero and Arthur.

[@chikasnotmadjustdisappoint6266]

There are too many Sabers in Fate! And that's bad because...

[@user-wv5po2dp4h]

1:40

[@x_ALLMIND_x]

Hitting copy and paste isn't what i would call actual artistic talent

[@crawlingboy]

@@x_ALLMIND_x yet takeuchi still manages to make them look good

[@x_ALLMIND_x]

@@crawlingboy well, yeah.. If you make the first one look good, copy and pasting the rest should look good too...

[@crawlingboy]

@@x_ALLMIND_x I will say this though can you draw better and do not take this as me Insulting you Cause drawing is hard and the dude has drawn other characters like Iskander,Waver,Valkyrie,Mash and etc

[@austinpark980]

gigguk's next mission : drag those two into the type-moon verse by bringing them to the next heaven's feel movie on Aug 15th

[@EliteFreeman]

i fell deep into the pit called Fate. now im crawling through the cracks on the floor to go deeper

[@ArchetypeLuna]

and now you can have an entire support list of Sabers!

[@third-ratedude4234]

There are currently 280 Servants in FGO, but only 27 of them has 'Saberface' trait, that means that 1/10 Servants in FGO is a Saber clone. Its interesting to note that from the 27 Saberfaces, 11 of them isn't Artoria. So technically speaking, there are only 16 Artoria clone in FGO and 1 isn't playable.

[@Ravi9A]

Who is unplayable?

[@third-ratedude4234]

@@Ravi9A Ultra Heroine Z, basically a reskin of MHX

[@razzildarkbrew1952]

@@third-ratedude4234 didn't we get Ultra Heroine Z as a skin for MHX during Saber Wars 2 event?

[@Lilly_Fae]

@@third-ratedude4234 two unplayable actually, there's also goddess rhongomyniad

[@set9034]

"Oh so you like Fate, huh? Name every Saber, Emiya, Rin, and Kotomine"

[@Dudenob123]

Like how much time do you have? If i tell you the short version this might only take a week.

[@davidashton3671]

Not gonna lie to you, there's that one second where I'm seriously considering doing it to flex on people.

[@raawesome3851]

Okay, by Emiya, do you mean Emiya Kiritsugu, or Shirou Emiya?

[@Janken_Pro]

@@raawesome3851 archer Emiya

[@raawesome3851]

@@Janken_Pro oh. Then that makes sense.

[@VtuberTimestamper]

Nasu has two great joys in life: Saberfaces and Giant Women. .....Also obligatory Umu!

[@asadpuppy1259]

There's a servant created solely for that purpose

[@meister3057]

The... MOON CANCER INSTITUTE??

[@shehryar5174]

Fate heaven's feel is so good, in terms of animation it's the best by far, would highly recommend it.

[@latom-sensei2554]

Fate Fans: bUT iT RuINs fAtE ZEr0

[@cartoonking1789]

The local Waifu with a Hat how?

[@latom-sensei2554]

@@cartoonking1789 I really don't know but I keep seeing everywhere.

[@DManVI]

@@latom-sensei2554 You got it backwards. Heavens Feel (Visual Novel) came out before Fate/Zero (Light Novel), so the general consensus is that Fate/Zero spoils Heaven's Feel.

[@water_color]

Nobody will recommend to watch HF FIRST

[@fedef77]

What have you done during quarantine? Studied history... the entire history

[@rasheedadebayo-bada5231]

Not like there’s an event in fgo called Saber wars

[@thedeltarayquaza2823]

there's 2 but luckily saber wars 2 has nothing to do with saber

[@astorvialaw4980]

A flowchart for whenever someone asks "Why are there so many Sabers?" Character or Class? If Class, long version or short version? If character, in-lore reason or marketing reason? If marketing reason, point to the sales figures. If in-lore reason, long version or short version?

[@hero_triple3796]

“... a slightly different variation of the same character“ I like this explanation of “Saber”

[@water_color]

Takashi Takeuchi: Um, *ACKCHYUALLY*

[@justnoob8141]

Too much saber? NOT ENOUGH SABER! Kamen Rider: *Proces to trademarking Kamen Rider Saber*

[@lonelyisamanwithoutlove106]

"Who likes Saber so much that we had these so many Sabers?" I mean, who doesn't like Saber tho?

[@raawesome3851]

I mean... Fair point

[@GDIGhostStalker]

RV Dumaguing Takeuchi the ultimate Saber fan

[@rebeccaosser4907]

I don't. I guess she's okay. Don't really get what's so great about her, tbh. Please don't kill me!

[@SK-yx7hm]

We need a podcast with gigguk explaining the story for Fate Go alone, cause no doubt it would take that long. Especially with the lostbelts and crossover events.

[@darthzayexeet3653]

„I think I need to watch that!“

[@Skeleton-chan]

Kinoko Nasu: I could either fix world hunger, or indulge my giantess fetish... Kinoko Nasu surrounded by giant women: I chose wisely.

[@vladprus4019]

Extella had Nasu writing some stuff. Also Extella has basically a giantess route. COINCIDENCE?

[@sabercloud7119]

Garnt: Rin fan Saber fans: This is war

[@redbone9553]

There is no need for war when Rin is just objectively best girl.

[@sabercloud7119]

@@redbone9553 thats subjective. Yes you can say she is best girl but others disagree and I dont feel like starting a war right here

[@Dudenob123]

@@redbone9553 first of all Gillgamesh best girl. Second the reason there is no need for war is the fact that we all cloud only debate for third place anyway. Iscandar and waver take first ans second.

[@sabercloud7119]

@@Dudenob123 gilgamesh isnt a girl tho hes best man with kotomine

[@lloydchristian936]

Sakura fans: were just happy to be here

[@tyronetalam8488]

I think it would've been more accurate to say "How many Artorias/people with the same face as Artoria are there?" , bc theyre in almost every class at this point

[@CptPhilippnes]

"Saber the class or Saber the character?" Honestly first question I thought of when I saw the title.

[@renflare2570]

Title: *There are too many sabers in fate* Well....chief....theres another one,and shes a game changer

[@tyronetalam8488]

Joey: Type Moon would probably be like a cancer institute Me:........................... Moon Cancer Cell--

[@albertng35]

And BB the Moon Cancer itself!

[@ikejohnson5494]

4:00. It seems pretty self explanatory. Are you asking about how many versions there are of Artoria, or how many different saber class servants there are?

[@JC-cf8oj]

Connor: "We need Saber Black" Someone needs to show him saber Alter

[@stefoncromartie6075]

0:35 Fate fans appreciate the effort. You did a great job gigguk

[@darthzayexeet3653]

Some Fate Content: *is both canon and non-canon* *“Reality can be whatever I want!“*