Traverse City 1982 A Look Back.

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Glenn Rice

Glenn Rice

Күн бұрын

Traverse City 1982 - Packing A " New VHS " Camcorder we hit the streets . Gas is 84 cents a Gallon Clinch Park Zoo Clinch Park Train Looking Good. The Sights And Sounds of A Time Gone. Also A Run Through Beulah and A home on Herring Lake we Almost Bought.

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@donnabrown4349
@donnabrown4349 3 жыл бұрын
It was better back then. I spent summers in Glen Arbor and once a week growing up in the 1960s and 1970s my parents and my sisters used to go TC to wash laundry once a week, the zoo and downtown if we were lucky we got to buy something.. By 1982 I was 25 newly married and had my oldest son in September of that year.. I lived in Detroit Metro during the schools year growing up. I lived in an apartment in Wixom in 1982. I my husband who was 23 and I went up for the 4th of July weekend. Where did the time go? My oldest son is going to be 39 in September. We used to take our oldest sons who were born in 1982 and 1986 every summer for 3 weekends at a time at my parents cottage. This music brings back so many memories. The scary part is that I am 64 and will be 65 in November. My Grandparents would say the older you get the faster time goes. Now we are Grandparents and live in Fenton, Michigan. I miss the old days and all of my energy I used to have. Thank you for sharing.
@udhoop
@udhoop 2 жыл бұрын
I love Traverse City and Huey Lewis and the news!
@aviratica6370
@aviratica6370 2 жыл бұрын
I grew up here and was in the 11th grade at Central. When I saw it said 1982 I put my brain back at that time. I was so, happy that everything that I thought was there at that time was right where I remember. I no longer live in TC but, my Mother does still and when I talk to her, she'll tell me she went to some place that I never heard of and I'll say 1985 it. She laughs and puts her thinking cap on and will tell me and then I remember.
@glennrice5483
@glennrice5483 4 ай бұрын
cool
@tommybell1786
@tommybell1786 Жыл бұрын
This is precious.
@glennrice5483
@glennrice5483 4 ай бұрын
yep
@mountainkath
@mountainkath 3 жыл бұрын
Ah, the TC I remember.....I was 10 years old when this was filmed. (Left TC for good in '92.)
@brianhalliday2384
@brianhalliday2384 3 жыл бұрын
Great video, this was a blast through the past. I went to NMC in TC starting in 1979 and lived on campus. We used our bicycles for transportation through the winter. Traverse City was completely different back then.
@jeofbrinclhof7861
@jeofbrinclhof7861 Жыл бұрын
This is so cool. I was born in 2001 and it is always interesting when i am told what is different and wasn't there back then
@glennrice5483
@glennrice5483 4 ай бұрын
SURE CHANED
@metalfire4257
@metalfire4257 3 жыл бұрын
Man I live here and I’m a lot younger than this video and it’s crazy to see how things changes the the mini golf courses actually being used
@OblowVlogs
@OblowVlogs 3 жыл бұрын
Same dude this is wild to see, the change by the bay is unreal there was nothing but a volleyball net
@metalfire4257
@metalfire4257 3 жыл бұрын
@@OblowVlogs I straight up didnt know there was a zoo in Clinch Park
@Ckrepp564
@Ckrepp564 3 жыл бұрын
Yep pretty interesting I was born in the early 90's but I remember going to the zoo and open space was taken up by some sort of huge factory, other than that everything looks kinda similar to me lol.
@brizzlove2120
@brizzlove2120 3 жыл бұрын
All the beautiful space between everything has been filled with a house or commercial building. Such is life
@itsjonvh
@itsjonvh 3 жыл бұрын
Crazy to see old houses that I recognize
@josephzilafro2720
@josephzilafro2720 Жыл бұрын
Great video graduated from TCSH in 86, I remember all those places. Downtown TC was so active back then
@glennrice5483
@glennrice5483 4 ай бұрын
it sure was a beautiful time in TC
@tymcurtis
@tymcurtis 3 жыл бұрын
Anyone else want to see a shot by shot recreation in 2021?
@Timponwalzdancingindrag
@Timponwalzdancingindrag 3 жыл бұрын
You can sort of follow the same path with street view on Doodle Maps, it's pretty cool to see the changes! Sad as well...
@TheFirstMrSue
@TheFirstMrSue Жыл бұрын
No
@evanWEEDS
@evanWEEDS 13 күн бұрын
I've lived here my whole life, and watching this video brings back so many memories... especially Grandview Parkway and seeing so many recognizable places now gone....Captain Jack's? I vaguely remember that. I think the last recollection I can remember was that place being Shooter's, a sports bar and grille? Crazy how much this town has changed....
@jamesl1583
@jamesl1583 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you Glenn, our family has had a cottage at Rennie Lake since 1977. This video was an emotional trip, remembering places my family and friends went some no longer with us. It brought back so many wonderful memories.
@aaronjoley4491
@aaronjoley4491 8 жыл бұрын
Love the clips of the Clinch Park Zoo. Takes me way back!
@swolf1996
@swolf1996 8 жыл бұрын
I was only born in 96 and I still remember that zoo. I'd take it any day over Bijou by the Bay.
@TimelessMediaProd
@TimelessMediaProd 3 жыл бұрын
@@swolf1996 Was the funding short or why did they close the zoo down?
@Delcat42
@Delcat42 Ай бұрын
@@TimelessMediaProd Those animals were suffering horribly. Look at their enclosures! My mother used to tell me about the singular time she and my father went there, and they were shocked by the condition their animals were in. She used to tell me how the badger would walk to one side of his cage, roll over, walk to the other side of his cage, roll over, again and again and again--that's the behavior of an animal that's not just stressed, but *crazed* from being cooped up in a tiny cage. It's nightmarish actually seeing it!
@Ckrepp564
@Ckrepp564 3 жыл бұрын
Wow how cool seeing the place I live captured a decade before I was even born! The first 15-20 minutes of the video I drive pretty much on a daily basis. Pretty interesting to see that all the fast food (mcds, kfc, tbell, bk) are all in the same exact spot. The clinch park zoo no longer exists, it was closed about a decade ago and is now just clinch park. It has a small water feature park for children and a large beach as well as biking paths etc. The big factory was demolished about 10-15 years ago and is now called "open space", pretty much just a huge open field on traverse bay with beach volleyball courts, more biking and beach access, as well as more space for hosting cherry fest.
@urwholefamilydied
@urwholefamilydied 3 ай бұрын
You're confused. The zoo hasn't been there for over 20 years or more... maybe 30. And the open space has been there forever. As long as I can remember and I lived there in the early 90's. You can see the open space in this video.
@Delcat42
@Delcat42 Ай бұрын
Ah...nature is healing.
@johntiffany1285
@johntiffany1285 2 жыл бұрын
This was a very nice throwback to when I was growing up. I did however, notice that the Taco Bell sign was up on Front Street. This is titled 1982 and I worked at Taco Bell when it first opened in 1985. I would have been too young in 1982.
@urwholefamilydied
@urwholefamilydied 3 ай бұрын
Ya, just from the video footage I was questioning 1982... trust me the video was AWFUL in this video, but I don't know if there even was portable video units in 1982. Certainly not a consumer thing that would have batteries to do all this. I also saw a couple vehicles that looked more like '85. A camero and a toyota truck.
@cup1dwon
@cup1dwon 5 ай бұрын
Wow… I’ve lived here my whole life so this is really crazy to see
@glennrice5483
@glennrice5483 4 ай бұрын
sweet
@katvacuum7510
@katvacuum7510 3 жыл бұрын
“I Want Fudge” Thank you for posting.
@deltasierra1774
@deltasierra1774 3 жыл бұрын
This is so cool. It’s weird how some places changed soooooo much, but other places changed so little or not at all.
@stevelarson4625
@stevelarson4625 4 жыл бұрын
Back when it was a nice little town.
@alexandermakrianis
@alexandermakrianis 4 жыл бұрын
Yep, before it become crowded and you could live there without having to be a millionaire.
@TenereAMir
@TenereAMir 3 жыл бұрын
@@alexandermakrianis Yep. I've lived in the region my whole life and T.C. proper for 20 years. Prices are now insane, and everything is catered to the tourists and not the locals.
@alexandermakrianis
@alexandermakrianis 3 жыл бұрын
@@TenereAMir yep, I have had family in the area since the 70s and I always loved the area. Finally got my chance to move there in early 2017, but it was brief because my job didn't work out. If I wasn't in good shape financially I never would have been able to do it. I was paying over $900/month for rent, which is cheap for TC, for an apartment that wasn't really all that spectacular. It wasn't what I thought it would be, instead of enjoying it I worried about how things would work out long term and if I'd ever be able to afford a decent house. Most jobs up there aren't career oriented, they are service jobs that are tied to the hospitality and tourism industry, so I wonder how people who live in these nice houses up there make a living.
@Alaninbroomfield
@Alaninbroomfield 3 жыл бұрын
Try living in a shithole town like Kalamazoo or Detroit and get back to me. This is STILL a nice town.
@Alaninbroomfield
@Alaninbroomfield 3 жыл бұрын
@@alexandermakrianis Nurses, lawyers, teachers, city & county workers, etc. Most people rely on combined incomes for these homes too. All the baby-boomers that retired up here are driving up prices for everyone else.
@lisab8824
@lisab8824 6 жыл бұрын
Woah cool to see! Was born and raised in TC.
@markcameron5692
@markcameron5692 3 жыл бұрын
This brings back memories of what Traverse City was back when I was a kid. Most of the hotels have changed, Holiday Inn looks the same, McDonalds and KFC rebuilt but are in the same location today. Murdicks Fudge hasn't changed a bit. There are fewer miniature golf places. THis video is a great time capsule.
@jennyprorock
@jennyprorock 3 жыл бұрын
The flap Jack Shack before it was Mabels. My cousin worked at both. I miss the 80s. And Mabels.
@PearSquared
@PearSquared 3 жыл бұрын
I miss Mabel's too! I'd get breakfast there with my parents every Sunday morning, then we'd go grocery shopping. The waitress had our orders memorized. I'd always get the eggs benedict. Definitely a childhood memory.
@ToddleyProductions
@ToddleyProductions 3 жыл бұрын
This is awesome to see. I was comparing one of my videos from back in September 2020 to this video because I went to tc for my birthday. Very cool to see what it looked like before it turned into a hipster town
@YOURWORMFRIEND
@YOURWORMFRIEND 3 жыл бұрын
very cool! love seeing the route I take into traverse daily!
@TimelessMediaProd
@TimelessMediaProd 3 жыл бұрын
Clinch Park Zoo looks like so much more fun back then! I've always wanted to see what the zoo was like :) Thank you for sharing!
@jennyprorock
@jennyprorock 3 жыл бұрын
It was actually pretty depressing. Even then.
@Keyboardman88
@Keyboardman88 2 жыл бұрын
The zoo had a wolverine that was pretty neat.
@Delcat42
@Delcat42 Ай бұрын
@@jennyprorock Those poor animals.
@donshaffer4169
@donshaffer4169 6 жыл бұрын
I attended NMC from January 1983 to March 1984 before transferring to WMU. This video is PRICELESS.
@leonelcardenas5847
@leonelcardenas5847 3 жыл бұрын
I just visited last weekend. Not the best time with covid, but it's a beautiful city!!!
@Delcat42
@Delcat42 Ай бұрын
Great video, but it's so harrowing seeing that roadside zoo. That badger is a nocturnal burrowing animal, it's rolling around like that because it's crazed from being in a tiny concrete cell. The wolf and foxes are also visibly stressed, and the falcons in the dung-encrusted cage...I can't believe it took so long to shut down!
@jdthenomad
@jdthenomad 3 жыл бұрын
Like just about everyone else here, I'm thinking WOOOWWW! Moved to TC in '79 and left for college in '85. I even worked at the Beachcomber Resort one summer...Ah--good times. Spent most of my time on the East Bay and Peninsula Dr. I didn't appreciate TC as much until life hit me in the mouth later. I hope it's still a great place for locals to do summer stuff. If you're there now, I hope you know what you've got :-)
@ruthmenchaca6688
@ruthmenchaca6688 3 жыл бұрын
Does anyone remember the drive-in. If memory serves me right it used to be pink. I spent all night playing at playground. Good times💝
@kimberleys2535
@kimberleys2535 3 жыл бұрын
You mean the Cherry Bowl Drive In in Honor? It’s still there today open in the Summer only with a cool retro 50’s theme!
@ruthmenchaca6688
@ruthmenchaca6688 3 жыл бұрын
No this one was on Munson Ave. going towards Acme. It’s not there anymore. Such a shame. I have good memories of Traverse City.
@Akira_Hibiki
@Akira_Hibiki 3 жыл бұрын
Are you thinking of the one heading out to Chums on 31?
@ruthmenchaca6688
@ruthmenchaca6688 3 жыл бұрын
It’s not there anymore. This was around the late 60s to early 70s.
@RockNTile1977
@RockNTile1977 3 жыл бұрын
I can’t recall a drive thru towards acme. But I remember one towards Chums. It was still there in the early 2000s but not in operation. Not sure when they tore it down.
@theoldsceptic9976
@theoldsceptic9976 3 жыл бұрын
This is the year I graduated from Central. Lol. Thanks for the memories dude
@robbiedogg04
@robbiedogg04 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing this! I didn't move to TC until much later, but I love history and this is a great lesson! Scheldes was a Big John Steakhouse! And the vacant lot at 31 and Holiday Hills where a Burger King sits now, priceless footage! Love it!
@stevenmartens8795
@stevenmartens8795 3 жыл бұрын
Rich down states ruined my town
@rwdplz1
@rwdplz1 3 жыл бұрын
Moved to TC in 2000, can't believe how much was still exactly the same almost 20 years before, now almost 40 years ago.
@markagreen2393
@markagreen2393 3 жыл бұрын
My wife and I moved here from Clare in 88 to work in the medicine. TC was nice back then. Now it's the land of the entitlement.
@drunkensailor214
@drunkensailor214 3 жыл бұрын
it was odd going to college and meeting a black person and to my surprise most people only had one house and no boats. our utopia is being disrupted a bit by an influx of the "housing insecure" and minimum wage transplants, however the winter takes out a few every year to keep their number in check. my townhouse and cabin in leelanau are still appreciating so for the foreseeable future i will pay our exorbitant property tax. so overall, i agree with you. stay out of traverse, there is nothing to see here.
@nat-gn3cq
@nat-gn3cq 3 жыл бұрын
ugh i wish i could have grown up in the 80s here it would have been awesome
@mountainkath
@mountainkath 3 жыл бұрын
It was! :)
@lindaa.garcia8503
@lindaa.garcia8503 8 жыл бұрын
wish I could see some pictures or movies of traverse city in the '60s. former migrant worker till 1970.
@macman3175
@macman3175 3 жыл бұрын
I am glad the DDA put their foot down and stopped new construction right downtown. The Park Place is still an icon.
@JasonGillman
@JasonGillman 7 жыл бұрын
Well done Glenn! Moved here in 83, but was staying in the Briar Hill around the time you shot this. You did a great job of 'noticing' certain things (signage, gas prices, etc.) that offer a time perspective. I enjoyed this.
@alexandermakrianis
@alexandermakrianis 8 жыл бұрын
This is like a trip through time. I live in Saginaw and have family in TC. I've been going up there since before I was old enough to talk and I've always loved the place. I was 6 in 1982 and remember very well going up there for Thanksgiving that year, it was one of the most memorable times of my life. Ironically, everything in your video looks just like it does today for the most part, other than the cars on the road and the zoo of course. I went there back when it was still open. I like your music selection at the beginning.
@junebrakel5241
@junebrakel5241 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for sharing this video. It brought back a lot of memories.
@mikeandsherri1984
@mikeandsherri1984 7 жыл бұрын
Brought back memories for me also....was really hoping you would of gone out to Acme area, where the old Taunz house was...now there's a memory i'll never forget...thanks for sharing!
@camperschoice8802
@camperschoice8802 3 жыл бұрын
The Taunz house was the place of rock and roll. Great bands.
@quest2outdoors
@quest2outdoors 3 жыл бұрын
What a great town glad to be able to grow up here it was awesome sure has changed a lot Captain Jack’s fun place to hang out
@tonylackie
@tonylackie 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for sharing this! This was 10 years before I was born...its amazing how familiar it is, but so incredibly different!
@harmonicamanrandy
@harmonicamanrandy 3 жыл бұрын
Yep, that's how I remember it all.
@jmueller8081
@jmueller8081 6 жыл бұрын
Cool, our house is at 0:58 marker! It's way different now!
@chuck69
@chuck69 5 жыл бұрын
Awesome video! I grew up in the TC area in the 80s and it brought back memories. It's nice seeing GIantway, the old Phillips 66 and Amoco stations and the Zoo again! TC changes a LOT every time I go back up again (I live in Grand Rapids now).
@SagaFraga
@SagaFraga 8 жыл бұрын
Woah, this is soooo weird! I live here, in fact I've lived here my whole life! I was born in 2000 so this is so interesting. I have some old footage of sugarloaf.
@Alaninbroomfield
@Alaninbroomfield 6 жыл бұрын
There is a guy on youtube that walked through Sugarloaf in 2014 or so, completely abandoned and in disrepair now. Could be a Walking Dead set the way it looks. I got served alcohol at the age of 19 in Sugarloaf, first time I ever did that (my date knew the doorman, hehe).
@Keyboardman88
@Keyboardman88 5 жыл бұрын
I moved to TC in the fall of 1971 and left in Nov of 1984 and moved to Milwaukee. A lot of what's on the video I remember. I do miss the area somewhat, and of course the friends left behind. However, I don't miss the politics, and I certainly don't miss giving a lot of pay for the view of the bay. Would never move back unless I was very very wealthy...and then I'm not sure I'd be willing to give up all the great things about Milwaukee.
@godisholy7939
@godisholy7939 3 жыл бұрын
Terrific video! So nostalgic. Thank you for posting this!
@davidellis5141
@davidellis5141 3 жыл бұрын
I lived there for 10 years 2002 - 2012 - Nice , safe until 2009 affordable.
@andyinmichigan9058
@andyinmichigan9058 3 жыл бұрын
wow awesome upload OP! i've basically been in TC my whole life. Moved from buckley when i was 4 ....lived in the east side in english woods for most of that time...so i wasn't around there in 82 but a lot of what was there was there quite a bit later. seeing the old power plant, the cruise down 31 seeing the old little Caesar's, the marathon station at 4 mile, pirates cove , the pizza hut, and pebble brook! wow. thanks OP! edit i see it was closer to 84/85
@lynnflynn5591
@lynnflynn5591 3 жыл бұрын
Hope to visit TC someday. Wonder how many of those lovely, big old Victorian homes are still standing and how many are B&B's. I watched the video on MUTE without the music. This youtube speaks for itself.
@steventerry2076
@steventerry2076 4 жыл бұрын
From a Former Traverse Citian, Nice Memories. Clinch Park. Central Neighborhood, Used to live on Sixth Street, Benzie County. Stopped at the Cherry Hut MANY at Time on the way to Manistee. I will be back, do not know when!
@SagaFraga
@SagaFraga 8 жыл бұрын
There needs to be a movie about this place
@pandababyhensley9781
@pandababyhensley9781 3 жыл бұрын
Holy crap ive lived all my life and its cjanged so freaking much
@christopherlacoste2130
@christopherlacoste2130 3 жыл бұрын
The place has become a hell hole. I just moved after 30 years in TC. Damn shame what it's become, down state up north.
@bignook7168
@bignook7168 3 жыл бұрын
I love Traverse city!! It’s the people that live there that ruined it
@nataliekohler7988
@nataliekohler7988 6 жыл бұрын
This is awesome!
@triphook3
@triphook3 3 жыл бұрын
The strip though Beulah at 43:00 looks about the same today, minus "The Big Beef"
@HockeyTownHooligan5
@HockeyTownHooligan5 3 жыл бұрын
Man to go back in time.
@darylturcott
@darylturcott 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks,for sharing this.
@michaelnerychel6727
@michaelnerychel6727 4 жыл бұрын
This is more like 1984 or 85. I saw an All American City award sign, TC won that in 84.
@glennrice5483
@glennrice5483 4 жыл бұрын
it was. -
@hunterhippensteel
@hunterhippensteel 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah and I saw a newer body style Toyota pickup (84-88) parked on Union street
@LowerStandards33
@LowerStandards33 3 жыл бұрын
For what it's worth. At 7:48 they pass a Chevy Astro van. Those were first introduced in 1985. I'd say that's when this was filmed.
@alexandermakrianis
@alexandermakrianis 2 жыл бұрын
@@LowerStandards33 Yeah, I noticed that too.
@DleonMar
@DleonMar 3 жыл бұрын
Good stuff man. Crazy to see how it was
@juanestrada1545
@juanestrada1545 2 ай бұрын
I was 3 months old.
@twinbit
@twinbit 3 жыл бұрын
Fox Haus Motor Lodge 8:27 - great memories.
@stevenmartens8795
@stevenmartens8795 3 жыл бұрын
Griffins used to own it
@brianbudzynski1926
@brianbudzynski1926 3 жыл бұрын
I was just a young urban explorer hitting up blg 50 and a vast tunnel system. Many weird occurances
@bhays71
@bhays71 4 жыл бұрын
Too bad it didn't go all way thru Main St., see the State Theater and such.....
@katvacuum7510
@katvacuum7510 3 жыл бұрын
Yes it’s me again. I’m the twelve year old kid on his bike at 3:45
@glennrice5483
@glennrice5483 3 жыл бұрын
sweet
@sammymadison311
@sammymadison311 2 жыл бұрын
That is so cool!
@timfronimos459
@timfronimos459 3 жыл бұрын
Wasn't there a steak house restaurant called something like "The Texan"?
@SprintSprint-ej9nk
@SprintSprint-ej9nk 3 жыл бұрын
Bata bus phone number is still the same 20:52
@janetteransom1233
@janetteransom1233 8 жыл бұрын
Hi Glenn, Do you know who recorded this? It's a great video that took me back to a really good time in my life. Janette Ransom
@mymooseknuckle8877
@mymooseknuckle8877 3 жыл бұрын
I miss the zoo even though it was small. I really wish another zoo/animal sanctuary would be put in TC. A salt water aquarium zoo would be awesome to with reptiles.
@p47rr
@p47rr 3 жыл бұрын
My home town. Micheal Moore is ruining its home town appeal. All the rich privileged liberals are buying up all of the lake front property.
@billybannon
@billybannon 5 жыл бұрын
What a great video- thanks for sharing. Are you sure this was in 1982? I saw a few things that make me think it might be a few years later. Dodge caravans for one.
@ammonitelight
@ammonitelight 5 жыл бұрын
That's what I was thinking. I don't remember Pirate's Cove being there until a little later.
@ransolmcasterfo8864
@ransolmcasterfo8864 3 жыл бұрын
Agreed. The minivans and a few others. Most obvious is a Chrysler Laser at 21:23 which didn’t start production until 1984.
@hunterhippensteel
@hunterhippensteel 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah I saw an 84-88 body style Toyota pickup parked on Union street
@mattnachazel3525
@mattnachazel3525 3 жыл бұрын
I also felt the date was too early in the description. Thanks.
@maryburget3961
@maryburget3961 3 жыл бұрын
SHIELD'S 8:49
@DC-ho8oe
@DC-ho8oe 8 жыл бұрын
Man I miss TC,, TCHS class of 86.
@maryscottoconnor1203
@maryscottoconnor1203 4 жыл бұрын
TCSF, Class of ‘86
@bhays71
@bhays71 4 жыл бұрын
89 here
@stevenmartens8795
@stevenmartens8795 3 жыл бұрын
Class of 74
@Akira_Hibiki
@Akira_Hibiki 3 жыл бұрын
89
@mattnachazel3525
@mattnachazel3525 3 жыл бұрын
TCSHS, not Central, in 1987
@katvacuum7510
@katvacuum7510 3 жыл бұрын
16:50 International Harvester Scout?
@katvacuum7510
@katvacuum7510 3 жыл бұрын
0:51
@deejayimm
@deejayimm 3 жыл бұрын
In before the audio gets removed. Lol
@chasemajoch9105
@chasemajoch9105 5 жыл бұрын
Where's the train station?
@CKing-388
@CKing-388 7 жыл бұрын
Before it became yuppieville
@donshaffer4169
@donshaffer4169 6 жыл бұрын
I attended NMC in the early 80s. Traverse City has always had money in the community. However, in 1983, if you drove downtown you would have seen JC Penney, Woolworths, Miliken's Department Store, an old school lumber yard and so on. The city was similar to Cadillac or Big Rapids in that is served the normal, middle America population. In recent years I've traveled back to TVC with my daughter a few times and noticed that the city had changed a little to the so called "Yuppieville" as you say. A little zoo with a narrow gauge railroad would definitely be out of place today. I miss it.
@alexandermakrianis
@alexandermakrianis 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah, nowadays it's crowded and too expensive for anyone with a normal job to make a living. I moved there a couple years ago for a job opportunity but only lasted 5 months.
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