Traxxas TRX4M UPGRADES - Brushless Motor Upgrade! Furitek Stinger - Installation & Crawl Footage!!

[@CapeCrawlers]

Timestamps Close look at the stinger combo: 1:19 Installation and first impressions: 3:43 First run and demonstration: 5:58 Course runs and crawl tests: 7:01 Final thoughts: 15:12

[@somethingfishy1947]

Do you get the same articulation with them? Also are you finding that the front don’t drop as far as rear dose do to the front drive shaft? And one last question, will you be doing the chassis conversion suppose to help with servo limiting droop and or binding on sides. Love the videos. I’m new to crawling and they are very informative.

[@alexadams2336]

Wondering if you have any tips on a issue I'm having. I have a defender body, Injora extended axles, Injora 10mm hex extensions, and the same tires as you have in this video which I believe are 2.52mm. I took off wheel fenders and hacked pretty much the fender off but it still rubs and catches inside of headlight bucket under flex if the hexs were a +8 they would prob clear but they don't make so many tips before I chop up the headlight

[@andrewrichey7374]

Yeah there it is so controlled super slow crawl love it Broncos looking good doing it to 👍👍😎

[@Island-RC]

This setup has so much power, snapped my driveshaft clean in two. Metal ones going in as I watch this. I have the crawler gears but may go back to stock when I get my spare trans back from a friend

[@CapeCrawlers]

It’s super powerful isn’t it?! I’m glad I got the metal shafts when I did (coincidentally). Curious to see how it works with stock gears

[@chrish9502]

How is the setup with stock gears?

[@Island-RC]

I ruined the plastic crawler trans gears and got metals ones from ebay in the stock ratio and it's a little too quick now. Metal gears are a must and with this combo, I would go with 12 to 40 percent reduction for my next steel set.

[@andrewrichey7374]

Yeah it is stinking freaking sweet yeah, I’m here watching just home from work

[@andrewrichey7374]

Man in black is my color of choice and most of my RC‘s. 👍👍😎 I do love that bronco looks sweet dude

[@RCCrawlerz209]

Dude, I just saw RCGirl's review of the CR18P, which is a 1/18 scale, trail rig, could be something to look into, for sure. 🤙🏻

[@CapeCrawlers]

I've got one in the mail on its way! Excited to try it.

[@RCCrawlerz209]

@@CapeCrawlers Sick! 🤟🏻

[@andrewrichey7374]

Yeah we’ll see you in the next video 👍👍😎 two thumbs up, at Broncos looking sweet but yeah I’ll Have to have my lights for sure appreciate you sharing catch you on the next one

[@CapeCrawlers]

Thanks for watching!

[@sugatooth]

Love seeing the TRX-4M go brushless. With the crawl gears it really steps it up. And with that micro komodo I feel like you don't really sacrifice much of the explosiveness. I really hope we can find a solution to use the proscale light kit, I figure it's possible to get an external control to do all the light switching/programming?

[@CapeCrawlers]

You’re totally right, the micro has plenty of punch! I’m sure someone will come out with a workaround for the light kit 🤞🏻

[@jeffpenner4614]

Have ordered the same wheels, tires, axles, gearing, suspension links and diff covers for my Trx4m Trying to keep up but it’s adding up 🤣 Ty for the injora discount code

[@CapeCrawlers]

Thanks for watching! I’m taking a breather with the bronco now. My credit card needs to cool off 🤣

[@jeffpenner4614]

@@CapeCrawlers basically I’m trying to get as much performance without breaking the bank to much. I think the new electronics are out of budget, currently have a whole bunch of other projects on the go. Keep up the good work. Your videos are great quality and I love that your kids are getting into the hobbie too

[@andrewrichey7374]

Yeah look so good doing it, I’m not too much of a basher, I like that super slow controlled crawl yeah

[@zm6658]

Great point about the metal trans gears. This is my last point of failure on my defender as well. Curious if you noticed any cogginess transitioning from low speed to higher speed running. On mine its at about 60% throttle. I feel like this motor is just slightly underpowered- curious about the mini Komodo. Also I emailed them about hopefully developing a firmware update for adding the pro scale light kit

[@CapeCrawlers]

I havent noticed the cogging personally. To me it felt really smooth. Smoother than my other micro komodo actually. I would love to get the lighting kit back in order!

[@andrewpayne767]

I have a nearly identical build and I have the worst time with torque twist. Climb up any slope and the body just torques over emediately. Doesn’t matter how slow. Wondering if any one has any advice. Thanks. Edit: Just found your video on torque twist. It made a huge difference, thank you.

[@greggrube2948]

Awesome video Adam 👍 , I'm glad you like it. My combo is coming on Monday, hope it runs as good with stock trans gears. I also have on order are the metal diff gears, bearing set and metal suspension links, hope it climbs as good as yours.

[@CapeCrawlers]

You’re gonna love it!!

[@chrisgilbey8107]

Hi Adam , I think your channel and videos are amazing and I thank you for taking the time and trouble to help people like me (rookies) in the RC world. I have a question, I am going to purchase the TRX4M defender as I love the look and detail but would you be kind enough to perhaps make or suggest one of your videos that would help me with a very basic (uncomplicated) upgrades to add to the defender to make it more capable on a budget ? Thank you so much and love and friendship from here in the UK bro 🙏🏼

[@andrewrichey7374]

I always take temperatures of my motors after a nice crawl like that, just for I know where the temperature is on the motor and ESC I just have a little temperature gauge on a keychain it reads temperature pretty good

[@CapeCrawlers]

That’s a smart idea

[@Isaac804ab1]

i did some playing around with my bronco body if you heat up and bend the door panels inward so it hugs the frame it works extremely well for sliding over rocks and going threw tight spaces

[@CapeCrawlers]

Good idea although the thought of trying it gives me anxiety 😅

[@Isaac804ab1]

@@CapeCrawlers it did for me because I made a mistake while trimming the wheal wells but it’s working surprisingly well and the plastic didn’t change coulor

[@andrewrichey7374]

That was awesome up the escalator

[@rcjoe406]

Just splice in the traxxas esc and stick in up on the inside of the roof?

[@CapeCrawlers]

Good idea!

[@rcjoe406]

@@CapeCrawlers 👍

[@robertruiz5417]

Excellent video

[@miroclassmusic]

THANKS FOR THE RESPONSE, WHAT SHOCK ABSORBERS DOES THE ONE IN THE VIDEO HAVE?

[@andrewrichey7374]

Yeah but that Servo sure was rocking back-and-forth as you turn the steering

[@IPS0125]

Yeah, that needs to be more solid so it's not wasting all it's torque.

[@stefanb1454]

New to the hobby. What do you guys mean about losing torque and the servo moving?

[@cgnovice2969]

Just a guess as I am also new but i think they mean that where the servo could be using energy (torque in this case) to turn the wheel, it is instead using some of it to move the actual servo.

[@DanBrando]

I wish Traxxas would make a brushless motor for this

[@WynnNagle]

Did you get rid of the slow crawl gears

[@GeorgiaKayakAngler]

Where do you purchase the parts of the course at. I’d like to build one myself inside to crawl on.

[@VS666]

solid performance yet again! quick quesiton; I've been considering building an indoor track but I don't even know where to start, what did you use for inspiration? I really like your setup but I want some bridges and winch hills too

[@CapeCrawlers]

Thanks! Check out the video I did on my courses. It has my inspiration ideas and the methods of building them: kzbin.info/www/bejne/f2nYmpeMjcl_ock

[@dua4436]

Can l use remote control from injora or its should to be specific?

[@themostunknown2293]

you don't need grease on composite gears its not metal to metal contact? I see people keep making this mistake for some reason... It also seems to twitchy.. the slow crawl is nice but then its just full on power very quickly you can see that in your video of it.. just seems like to much and not much control past the super slow crawl

[@CapeCrawlers]

I didn’t know not greasing them was the norm. But it makes sense I guess. Maybe it was my one handed driving but I felt like it was pretty smooth. I had the micro komodo in my gladiator and this setup is much smoother without the twitch when it leaves FOC. It’s certainly not as smooth as the new mini komodo though

[@leongarfield658]

Do you have a place that I can watch the part of the install you fast forward to?

[@CapeCrawlers]

A detailed installation video of the motor, is that what you mean? If so, I do not, at least not yet. I am going to be doing some instructional videos on the TRX4M soon and a motor swap will be one of them.

[@CB-ql2qv]

I did the micro as well, love your channel. I have low speed cog tho. Any thoughts I still have normal gears. Had injura driveshafts, but went back to stock to see. But to no avail

[@CapeCrawlers]

I feel like the stinger struggles a bit with stock gears. They feel way too tall. Have you always had the cogging issue? Just wondering if a reset of the app or firmware update would solve it.

[@bluddywulf6796]

The lights not working is why I didnt go with the kit. The tegu is the beefier esc especially on the bec side.

[@CapeCrawlers]

It is a bummer to lose the lights.

[@frankiemabry1726]

When upgrading the electronics will the break lights an the turn signals an reverse lights still work?

[@CapeCrawlers]

They will not, which is a bummer because that pro scale kit is really sharp!

[@Herrera419]

I recently got one of these trucks. I want to upgrade to a bigger shock but don’t know what size? Can u help ??

[@CapeCrawlers]

You're pretty limited in shock options for these at the moment. I think only Injora has released aftermarket shocks specifically for this vehicle. If you're just looking for more articulation, flex extensions are a great option. Check out Adaptiv3 Designs on Etsy. Another option is Losi Mini B rear shocks. They fit with some modification and are ~10mm longer than stock shocks.

[@harleyguy932]

I’m wanting to upgrade my shock towers, more mounting options. Any suggestions?

[@CapeCrawlers]

I like the shock keys. A few folks make them on Etsy. Here’s some that I’ve used: www.etsy.com/listing/1353853387/trx4m-shock-keys

[@Exodus._.]

Does it come with a traxxas battery connector or do i have to buy is different battery

[@CapeCrawlers]

It comes with the adapter

[@SysTek2000]

Great video! I can't wait until my micro komodo comes in on Monday. I also bought a MOFO RC BAM micro brushless motor. Will be neat to see how it compares! I'm curious about how the standard gears work with the komodo given its low-end power. I imagine the crawler gears are nice to have, but are they even necessary at that point?

[@CapeCrawlers]

Thanks! I honestly feel like the crawler gears work really well with the komodo. It gives you that ultra low speed control and very smooth power delivery. I may try it in the stock transmission just for the fun of it though

[@SysTek2000]

@@CapeCrawlers Coming back to this, I had a chance to try the komodo with both gear sets today. With the stock transmission gears, while the komodo still had better low-end torque than the stock 180 motor, the komodo was still a bit jumpy compared to crawling with the crawler gears. I feel like this was to be expected, but I wasn't expecting how drastic the difference was. Crawler gears are a must in my opinion with the komodo, but if I didn't know any better, the komodo would still be seen as an incredible upgrade.

[@patrickjaquemet9732]

New to RC and definitely interested in going brushless on my trx4m. Question though... I have the stock transmitter and receiver (first rc so I dont have a tqi laying around), what would be the cheapest way to get that brushless setup to work? Will any 2 channel transmitter and receiver work?

[@CapeCrawlers]

I don't think any 2 channel tx/rx combo will work. I would vote for the Flysky GT5 transmitter/rx combo. It's around $79 and works great. amzn.to/3Whrfrx

[@Moto619films]

You have any recommended settings to smooth it out

[@CapeCrawlers]

It's really just troubleshooting with the app. You can try adjusting the slow speed in the throttle settings, as well as the punch. On the throttle curve itself you can adjust those dots up and down to get the desired smoothness.

[@shanesafford6808]

Is the drive train still waterproof with the conversion?

[@CapeCrawlers]

It is not. I think the Furitek components are water resistant, but not water proof.

[@shanesafford6808]

@@CapeCrawlers thank you, sir!

[@isaiahbelt7712]

So if I bought that motor could you plug it into the stock esc so I can keep the lights or do you have to do it all?

[@CapeCrawlers]

Unfortunately not. The Furitek system isn't compatible with the Traxxas esc.

[@bluddywulf6796]

What's the difference between the komodo and the stinger? Is it just the form of the motor ,speed,power?

[@CapeCrawlers]

Mainly size. The micro is super small and has a much higher KV, so it's a higher revving motor. The Komodo feels smoother and a bit torquier in my opionon.

[@ericbonds2283]

Hi, I just installed mine and it seems like it is binging up/not spinning freely in the transmission. Not sure if that is normal or if I did something wrong 🤷‍♂️

[@CapeCrawlers]

It should be nice and smooth. Could be a gear messing issue by the sounds of it. I would suggest breaking down the transmission and seeing if you can realign it and smooth it out. I had a little bit of trouble with the gears when I swapped them out, but it's nice and smooth now.

[@vikingblood5775]

Can you possibly show that Injora body on a Deadbolt?

[@CapeCrawlers]

Which one, the new buggy?

[@vikingblood5775]

Yes..the buggy you have. Alot of Bolt owners would like to see I'm sure. All your suspension tricks have worked great on mine. Big help. Thanks.

[@CapeCrawlers]

@@vikingblood5775 I'll see if I can pop it off and put it on a deadbolt next time I'm doing work to it. I've seen some folks put deadbolt links on the buggy and it looks pretty rad; super stretched in the back

[@camerinsmith5182]

What transmitter are you using for your trx4m with the new esc?

[@CapeCrawlers]

Furitek avatar

[@224Shrek]

What shocks are those?

[@CapeCrawlers]

Losi mini b rear shocks all around

[@224Shrek]

@@CapeCrawlers rear shocks even in the front?

[@224Shrek]

@@CapeCrawlers and thank you because I ordered the defender trx4m so once i get it delivered i want to get some upgrades and stuff

[@AfroSlots]

Can you try rc4wd mud basher tires and review them

[@CapeCrawlers]

Those are the Agro/tractor looking tires right?

[@payneja]

I have really being enjoying the TRX build series. I noticed that my transmission was dry as well. What lubricant did you use? Also, Meus is now offering a metal crawler gear set.

[@CapeCrawlers]

I use the traxxas silicon grease. It’s not necessary for composite gears, but I did it anyway. I just got my meus gears today!

[@BananaBabys]

Is the motor waterproofable? Or is there any other waterproof options for brushless micro crawlers?

[@CapeCrawlers]

Furitek makes the lizard ultimate which is fully waterproof. You could use that instead of the lizard pro. But you’ll need a waterproof rx to mate it with. I’m not sure about the motor honestly

[@tcolbymartin]

Any idea if there’s a possibility that the light kit from Injora would work with this set up, in place of the pro light kit? Just ordered nearly all your recommendations but bummed a bit about the awesome Traxxas lights 😢😂…trying to find alternative options! Thanks for all your content, you have really been the biggest influence to get me into mini crawler scene and it has been surprisingly the most fun of all RC stuff I’ve done!

[@CapeCrawlers]

I think it will. I was just looking at that earlier this weekend. If you try it let me know!

[@tcolbymartin]

Will do!

[@ethantsai8634]

Do I have to use the Furitek Avatar transmitter with this brushless conversion? Or can I use like a Sanwa transmitter

[@avllocle1993]

you can use any other TX/RX but not stock

[@CapeCrawlers]

👆🏻 is correct

[@ethantsai8634]

Ok thank you

[@CB-ql2qv]

Hmm idk but I can't get my micro to run smoothly

[@michaelanthoney5620]

Do you have to upgrade your recover to use this kit?

[@CapeCrawlers]

Yes I did. I used the furitek micro rx and paired it with my avatar tx

[@jasonparedes8806]

Can you compare it to your red scx24 bronco?

[@CapeCrawlers]

Yes, we are now in a good place for a modified shootout!

[@andrewrichey7374]

Oh that would bum me out Got to have my lights

[@DamnDiabetic]

what wheels and tires are you running? i tried finding something close to the stock ones, but couldnt find anything lol

[@CapeCrawlers]

These are the Injora brass bead locks. I love them!

[@DamnDiabetic]

@@CapeCrawlers I just ordered some for mine!

[@Flywith_m3]

what are the shocks installed on this crawler?

[@CapeCrawlers]

Losi mini b rear shocks all around

[@lesterrosenbeck5401]

Is this with the stock gearing?

[@CapeCrawlers]

Crawler gear set

[@jrambo8784]

What tire/ wheel combo? Link?

[@CapeCrawlers]

Here you go: amzn.to/45eZvb4

[@lordharr123456]

Hey is this iy on 2s or is it on 3s? If only on 2s can you do the same test with 3s in comparison?

[@CapeCrawlers]

2S. I have yet to try it on 3S but I will!

[@WhipTube]

What tires do you have on it?

[@CapeCrawlers]

These are the LGRP gripper tires. Love them!

[@stevefrench3564]

Who makes the shock towers/keys?

[@CapeCrawlers]

Flubberstufferz has some and Jo RC designs on Etsy is where I got mine.

[@owenscott7775]

What shocks are you using please?

[@CapeCrawlers]

Losi mini b rear shocks all around

[@owenscott7775]

@@CapeCrawlers purchased! Thank you!

[@chrisperrywv]

Did you lose the ability to have lights this way?

[@chrisperrywv]

Nevermind. I just heard the answer

[@littleslim3756]

Thx man

[@jtatkinson6825]

What transmitter/receiver are you using for your lizard pro?

[@CapeCrawlers]

Furitek Avatar

[@joepadilla6297]

How much money are you in that build from the cost of the rig plus all the upgrades

[@CapeCrawlers]

It has to be ~$500 in upgrades and $150 for the rig. It hurts to add it all up!

[@joepadilla6297]

Thanks my brother is trying to get me into it and turned me on to your channel I really like your builds and was wondering how much this was going to cost me lol

[@sarahtorres3038]

Wait did you use the stock ESC?

[@CapeCrawlers]

No I did not. I used the furitek lizard and furitek micro rx

[@somethingfishy1947]

Did you switch out your shocks from the double barrel 1/24 58mm?

[@CapeCrawlers]

Yes I did. I went with Losi mini B rear shocks all around

[@Island-RC]

Has anyone else done a rear steering conversion for their bronco trx4m yet? Brushless and rear steer are always first on my list of upgrades but now it crawls so well I don't know if ther is much left to do to it other than find some taillights.

[@CapeCrawlers]

I’ve not seen anyone do a 4WS setup yet. I would be interested in seeing it though!

[@jeremypaugh9020]

Have just done both easy but costly. To do 4ws front axle goes right in need to cut rear center frame cross section shock mount and remove ESC. Then add in electronics for rear steer.

[@ruger5044]

i cant get both my screws in my motor because its not wide enough

[@CapeCrawlers]

In the Furitek motor?

[@stratosamv7119]

I’m pretty excited to see this go against your other rigs and see which one wins I’ve just built my Scx24 after watching some of your videos. Hoping Scx24 wins the head to head.

[@CapeCrawlers]

I’m just about ready to do a modified shootout! It’s going to be epic!

[@matusknives]

The control is insane. But I can not help but wonder - is the Avatar radio plus receiver the best way to go, or would a different combination offer more flexibility (e.g. wider range of compatibility with different ESCs). I am asking as I am yet to get a proper crawler - we only have the Glacier where I would like to update the ESC (probably to the 1080)

[@CapeCrawlers]

I’m going to start experimenting with other transmitters and rx combos. So far the furitek is the only one I’ve tried. So we’ll see! I hear great things about the flysky gt5

[@matusknives]

@@CapeCrawlers I will be following your updates closely 👍

[@rjleunura]

HiyA great video's, you run op 3s?

[@CapeCrawlers]

Thanks! I have not tried this on 3S yet.

[@rjleunura]

@@CapeCrawlers ow wauw is the furitek that good on2s

[@HONDAJEFF05]

u r going to make buy everything

[@CapeCrawlers]

LOL I'm a terrible influence!

[@SYST3M_OVERIDE]

What shocks are those? I want to upgrade mine but kinda don't want to spend $50 to do so.

[@CapeCrawlers]

Losi mini B rear shocks. I got the aluminum which were around $40, but the composite versions are much cheaper

[@SYST3M_OVERIDE]

@@CapeCrawlers Thanks for that. Are the springs that come with them soft enough or could I use the stock Traxxas ones?

[@CapeCrawlers]

@@SYST3M_OVERIDE the springs that come with them are VERY stiff. The stock traxxas springs fit but I still felt like it was sitting too high for my liking.

[@jamesklark7307]

Try AM32 ESC firmware~ cheap and smooth

[@CapeCrawlers]

Never heard of it but I’ll check it out!

[@chrisperrywv]

I know it’s a crawler but I would have loved to see a top speed run.

[@CapeCrawlers]

I can do that in an upcoming video. It's fairly quick. It's still running the crawler gears, so it's not a rocket ship by any means, but that micro komodo can sing

[@chrisperrywv]

@@CapeCrawlers oh I 💯 understand. I’m looking at getting one to crawl. We have a deadbolt, mostly stock and we love crawling with it, but we also just drive it around the house and would like just a TAD bit more speed. Though it looks so goofy with its stick bouncy shocks 😂. I know with stock gearing the trx4m is faster than the Scx24, but I was curious how it does fully decked out with crawling gears, extra weight, way better suspension, and most importantly brushless. I’ve only ever had 2 hobby grade RC’s, my axial and a 1/36th scale (if memory serves me correctly) from Losi Micro T. That thing was a blast, but I had it going 30+ MPH and broke it every time I played with it 😂

[@KBRC81]

Its too bad they couldn't tie the Furitek system into the Traxxas ESC RX like they did with the SCX

[@chrish9502]

Is it still not possible to use furitek brushless with stock esc? Can’t splice it either?

[@Stellar_Novaa]

What’s up with your Servo with so much play? And how’d you not notice it? 😂

[@CapeCrawlers]

I need a new mount. It was more like denial 🤣 The nsdrc isn’t happy in the LGRP mount. I’ve got a nsdrc aluminum mount on the way 👍🏻

[@Chris-po7qc]

I just love my deadbolt.... this is a gimmick from the monster called traxas..

[@claypoort3518]

Is it waterproof?

[@CapeCrawlers]

It is not. Splashproof, but not waterproof.

[@giopirmisashvili5514]

Best❤

[@Wreckedekcoupe]

Amazon has metal crawler gears

[@CapeCrawlers]

What! I will investigate this right away!

[@uhh482]

Jus like in real life can't afford the fifth wheel you know the spare 🤣😂🤣😂👊

[@CapeCrawlers]

LOL facts!

[@Choker144]

How much trxm

[@CapeCrawlers]

They are $150

[@Neilltheone]

It's a shame the real bronco isn't a SFA lol.

[@CapeCrawlers]

Right?! It would be a beast.

[@mikehagquist5198]

Looks goofy with the tires being so wide. Yea performance but takes away from the looks

[@CapeCrawlers]

I agree. I almost bought another one yesterday because I kinda miss the scale looks.

[@Chris-po7qc]

Trx4m... too big ... of course it climbs the 24 scale track!.. just takes away the fun... I don't like this platform..

[@CapeCrawlers]

The more I get into it the more I feel like the SCX24 is still the best platform for the mini crawlers.

[@jime3team665]

menuda mierda de instalacion a camara rapida

[@morgansmith3360]

What receiver do you pair with the brushless esc? Along with the Bluetooth module?

[@CapeCrawlers]

I use the Furitek avatar setup. I bought a bunch of their micro rx's and use that as my go-to setup.