Treacheries of the Troublesome Towns is Four Against Darkness: The RPG

[@kimhansen8615]

To the point, thorough and short - no need to fast forward here, thanks.

[@Naruga]

Wow, this is great. Thanks for also being considerate about what kind of info to show.

[@ChadRobb]

I have an illustration in this book. ❤

[@Chaoclypse]

This looks immensely useful for both 4AD and regular solo play!

[@GeekGamers01]

Absolutely true.

[@jayvillanueva723]

I played test that book,it was my first play test for 4AD

[@Grognard-Solo-Gaming]

Great news, thanks! I will be getting this when it’s available in print 👍😁

[@UntoldRelic]

I'm halfway through my first hamlet. It has been fun. There are so many things that can happen that it is definitely taking some adjustment to how I usually pace a 4AD game.

[@GeekGamers01]

I can see it will be a very different way to play.

[@TheTabletopSolo]

Thank you for the video! Definitely getting this to aid with my own solo play 😊

[@MegaChiliMac]

thanks for the overview. looks awesome. so glad it finally got released

[@GeekGamers01]

I usually don’t say things like this but it’s true here: it was worth the weight. SO much awesome content here that really changes and deepens the game.

[@Enfors]

Wow, this looks really interesting! Thanks for making this video.

[@jcraigwilliams70]

I may have to check this out... I tried 4AD and there was some stuff that I really liked but also a few things that didn't thrill me. I wanted something that covered more than just dungeon crawls, so this looks great, but I also felt that everything was so spread out across multiple books, that it seemed like a lot of work to get the "complete" game. I've heard that there will be a "new edition" of sorts that combines a bunch of stuff into one book but I don't know if that's accurate.

[@GeekGamers01]

I totally agree with you about the content being spread out, which I've mentioned in many of my other 4AD books. I'm not really sure why there has been no 2e for the basic rules... it just doesn't seem to be a priority for the designer.

[@Darkwintre]

Ok im interested!

[@perplexingruins]

Thanks for covering these! have been long interested to see what "2e" was going to be. Looks good, but like all 4AD products, its a massive two column wall of text...i am likely in the minority, but not sure how often I'd actually be excited to pull this out to read and use at table....regardless, neat to see their next steps and your wonderful coverage, as always!

[@GeekGamers01]

Glad you enjoyed the vid. I do agree that the layout could be improved but, as with putting out a much-needed revised 2e of the basic rules, that doesn't seem to be a priority for the creator.

[@wizardbrawl]

@@GeekGamers01 I did ask Andrea Sfiligoi about a second edition on Facebook a while ago and he mentioned it's something that he's working on. He didn't say when to expect it, but I know it's at least something in the pipeline.

[@GeekGamers01]

@nippleless As it has been seemingly for years, since the book came out. I wouldn’t hold my breath on that.

[@tangoedtaz]

thanks for the vid, these books look very interesting, i'll be adding them to my collection. though the system really needs a condenced rule/character class book, info is spread over too many books.

[@GeekGamers01]

Yes, I totally agree!

[@AceneDean]

Awesome! Can't wait for this to come out in physical form.

[@GeekGamers01]

You and me both. It’s really a lot of material

[@matthewconstantine5015]

This looks cool. I've messed around a bit with Four Against Darkness, but haven't done a deep dive. It seems like it's become a more interesting game over time. I'll have to look into getting some more of the books.

[@GeekGamers01]

Definitely worth a look again and books add a lot depth and theme.

[@silenceindigo]

Thanks for the review! Four Against the Abyss is required for the Hirelings and Professionals rules mostly.

[@HowItsPlayed]

Can't wait to dig into this!

[@BunnyNiyori]

I looked, I looked some more and then looked again. If you enjoy 4AD, then the two volume Treacheries of the Troublesome Towns is a must purchase. 400 pages of OMG awesomeness. These are not the normal brief tomes.

[@jamesortiz1]

i knew when this was released, well I hoped you would do a overview of this,im so glad you did im sold and ant wait to get this now

[@rpgchronicler]

The fact that at least one of the two supplements for 4AD is usable for ttrpgs as well makes them something worth checking out. Im surprised that they even have stuff related to naughty shenanigans which from what im seeing in the comments could be quite the turnoff for some, though for me I dont mind it and I don't consider it a detraction for the supplement.

[@GeekGamers01]

I agree with you that aspect of it is puzzling… especially that it has persisted all these years and no doubt cost sales…. I’m sure nobody would stop buying the games if this was removed but people certainly don’t buy them because it’s in there…

[@mustno3]

Always high quality, high level, content GG. Thank you! Having said that, I truly hesitate to try 4AD specifically because of the unnecessary degeneracy included by default in these books instead of being provided separately.

[@GeekGamers01]

Glad you enjoyed the vid. It's too bad that there aren't an "E" version of the books....

[@wizardbrawl]

The weird sex stuff seems to be limited to the books by Erick Bouchard. The core 4AD book doesn't have anything weird in it if you just want to try it out, which I recommend!

[@mustno3]

​@@wizardbrawl Yup, thanks for pointing that out. The core book iirc is mainly dungeon delving. Do you happen to know of any "normal" book with overworld elements?

[@GeekGamers01]

More Mountainous Mayhem has outdoor material. I can’t assess for you whether that would fit your definition of “normal” material. I believe some of the sites that print these books like Lulu.com mark some of them as “explicit” but that’s based on what the publisher tells them. You could also check Ganesha Games site to see about that to determine if the content would bother you or not.

[@julietmarais5972]

Thanks for this presentation....I would like to know if I also need the first 4AD game to manage the "core rules" like combats for example...don't see anything in the introduction about this...

[@GeekGamers01]

Core rules are required.

[@julietmarais5972]

Thanks!

[@clint8050]

This great. I hope they will have an overland supplement next. It’s almost possible to start in a town and then travel out to a dungeon and return. If you have a favorite overland rules pack I would like to know.

[@GeekGamers01]

You could Alexey Aparin’s overland travel rules. They are not specifically for 4AD but can work. I got them from itch.io a while ago. Don’t know if they are still there.

[@clint8050]

Thanks for replying. I couldn't find anything on itch. I found a guide on Alexey's site for pocket lands, but it references about ten different supplement tables. I tried Overland Adventures by Lowell Foster, which seems to work pretty well. I would love to find something that I could use cards or hex tiles with. If you know of video, guide, or tutorial that includes overland travel please post link. @@GeekGamers01

[@GeekGamers01]

I think the PocketLands card work well and I may have even demoed them in a vid with 4AD but truly can’t remember! I have Lowell Foster’s rules too and think they are great.

[@TheDungeonDive]

This thing is MASSIVE. Not quite sure how to manage it all.

[@GeekGamers01]

For me, it will have to be in print form to be playable at all. Even then: just selectively. There is so much here …

[@luca77289]

Nice video ! Is the PDF indexed ?

[@GeekGamers01]

My copy of the pdf was not indexed but I do not know that the commercially-available one is the same. I'd write to ganesha games for a definitive answer!

[@stoneworkmegapup215]

I've been using OSE rules to play 4AD dungeons.

[@jayvillanueva723]

Ville Villanueva was inspired by me lol Erick did it cuz I playtested this book and cuz I'm a chef😂 I have the pdf but waiting for my hard covers to get here

[@Vinyl-Sloth]

Not sure it’s in any of your videos is there a way to encompass overland travel in 4ad rivers, wood s etc, sorry am new, sure I have seen it.

[@GeekGamers01]

There are home made overland travel rules in the files section of BGG. For 4AD overaland material (but not necessarily travel rules), see More Mountainous Mayhem or Court of the Pixie King or Crucible of Classic Critters.

[@Vinyl-Sloth]

@@GeekGamers01 thank you very much

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[@VirginianJohn]

Using Treacheries of the Troublesome Towns requires Four Against Darkness and Four Against the Abyss. ⚠IMPORTANT:⚠ Because of their subject matter, dealing with crime, lust and betrayal, these books are recommended for mature players only.

[@ajmunzi]

It is compatible for d20 and osr games, so kinda not true you can adapt it to your own system

[@dafrca]

Well done GeekGamers.

[@mrosskne]

if i wonder if they ever get tired of shouting into the void

[@larilaa]

Good good 🎉

[@ajmunzi]

Both tomes comes in the same book?

[@GeekGamers01]

They are two separate books.

[@Caratacus1]

Many thanks for this I've played 4AD and while I appreciate the positive comments this seems like bloat and not for me. Also the 'adult' content they've put in the guide is cringeworthy. It's the kind of teenage wishful thinking that gives RPG'ers a bad rep.

[@GeekGamers01]

Agree about the content. I really don’t get it and it is about embarrassing tbh. I just do my best to ignore it when I play as I like the game, but I do question why it is there.