Federation's BLOODIEST Battle - The Siege of AR558 - Star Trek Explained

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[@troggbl]

£1430 and 3 years wait for that?

[@MrTilbin]

As a combat vet....this episode was very well done and hits very hard.

[@rlstafford4359]

Agreed. It was the closest they ever got.

[@LordHelmet512]

After going to Iraq and Afghanistan, its hard to watch.

[@warrenreid6109]

Aaron we miss you buddy. Your rendition on Nog will live on forever. Thanks for your contribution to the Lore.

[@probochronicles3991]

The episode, and storyline, were both well done. I remember the first time I saw it, and cringing when Nog was shot and had to lose his leg. This episode also showed how much Quark truly cared about Nog, as he killed a Jem'Hadar soldier to protect them both....

[@AccessAccess]

Did Nog really lose his leg? I thought it was replaced by the next episode. In ST universe getting your leg shot up is no big deal since they can just grow you a new one (or if preferred you can get a bionic replacement that functions in all ways like the biological one). It's not a life-changing incident or anything like that, Quark was just being his melodramatic self.

[@mrgummage]

@@AccessAccess it's a big deal when you're potentially months from receiving care from Starfleet Medical.

[@Timberjac]

DS9 is great at a lot of things, especially by reminding us that a conflict is always going to have casualties and there will always be misery, although in the worst moments we can become the best or the worst of our species. I especially love Damar's change of role from oppressor to "liberating terrorist" and how he despises the actions of the oppressors that he himself carried out in the past and how he is to some extent a copy of Kira doing the opposite path (With this one, she has been gradually understanding for several seasons that the Cardassians and the Bajorans are not so different, only that they evolved in different ways, just at the moment when she and her people are integrating into a larger organization, despite their desire to regain freedom and be truly independent.). I was really saddened by Damar's death, I think the character could have grown more, even if it was through books or in an episode in some other series.

[@CristySFM1234]

You know what i agree we need a Tribble video especially since people forget Tribbles are worthy of assimilation by the borg

[@Kyleplier]

If you want to prevent a war, rely on Picard. If you want to win a war, go to Sisko . He’ll make the enemy forces wish they never fucked with the Federation lol

[@coloradobrad6779]

And he can live with it, too. 🍻

[@farshnuke]

If you want to destroy a lovecraftian monstrosity from beyond the dawn of time call Janeway.

[@Nefylym]

the narrator is fantastic in this!

[@serge00storms]

The images you see are trenches of churned-up dirt. The battleground always looked like there was absolutely nothing there that anyone could ever want. Yet people were blowing each other to smithereens over this land. I wanted AR-558 to be that type of battleground, a totally nondescript piece of real estate that didn't deserve one drop of blood to be shed for it. It shouldn't say anything to the eye or the mind except that we were there because somebody had decided to put a relay station on this rock." Director Winrich Kolbe Vietnam veteran some Vorta decided that AR-558 needed a relay station and Starfleet wanted it

[@JaredLS10]

I still can't figure out why Martok didn't station a batallion on 558 to back up the starfleet personnel and weed out what was left of the Jem'Hadar.

[@shanenolan5625]

I think most of his ground forces were on the other planet. ( divions worth of them )

[@radeadcool]

@@shanenolan5625 they could have sent JUST a few klingons. Send them by life pod to the surface -Done. Or send in the Romulans with cloak ships.

[@shanenolan5625]

@radeadcool yes but the klingons were very busy on the other planet. A jemhadar army with cardassians as well . Thr romulan groudforces were engaged Liberating federation occupied member worlds , the federation had the defiant. With its cloak and were only getting to them now. . The romulan military also had their own front. Federation/klingon/ romulan combined forces. Were going world by world driving the dominion out of allied territory. Chintoka ( cardassian invasion) made it impossible to stop the alliance. And the suffered huge casualties in the offensives . . Chintoka was very much like ww1 . It was really one long battle. With peaks of major activity. The klingons were sending 150 thousand troops to one location. . In nemesis it said the remans under Shinzon. Fought in the most violent battles in the dominion war . With the romulan imperial army. ( romulans by dsy , remand by night) 24/ 7 . But I believe the federation had higher casualties than the klingons in total. During the war . Around 4 thousand starships . ( and ground forces)

[@JaredLS10]

@@shanenolan5625 true, but if 558 was such a strategic point the episode made it out to be then why put troops on other planets? Orbital strike other worlds and send the majority of ground forces to secure a primary target on 558.

[@shanenolan5625]

@JaredlS10 arr558 was a rock the comm was the only thing of value. They wanted to tap it . For intelligence. But chintoka itself was a populated cardassian world. And I suspect that wanted it as a stepping stone for the invasion to continue. . That got bottlenecked in that system. But in real world wars , small numbersof troopswere tasked hold a strategic bridge or road . Like operation market garden . Or the 101st . At bastogne. ( battle of the bulge) . . Without equipment or resupply. In winter, for how long ? With massive casualties. .

[@deadronin47]

Chief O’ Brian video is needed

[@nathanmeader3061]

Bloody brilliant, I’d love to hear more about tribbles to and the fact that they were once was the most feared, ecological menace how to clean onto literally waged war against them!

[@STSWB5SG1FAN]

I would like to know a bit more about the development of the attack tribbles.

[@Jayjay-qe6um]

R.I.P. Aron Eisenberg.

[@McAster99]

I would love to see something for the Kzinti. Considering that species had wars against humans and seem to be currently shunned by the rest of the Alpha quadrant, it would be nice to learn about them without having to watch TAS (I've tried, I can't).

[@vic5015]

I think TAS is available on Paramount+

[@johnfairhurstReviews]

Read Larry Niven's 'Known Space' stories for more about the kzin :-)

[@MM22966]

Reprogramming somebody else's minefield to blow them up when they attack has to be the most Federation tactical thing ever.

[@benjaminseelking9483]

Topic Suggestion: What if the UFP decides, now in the 2400´s, that after having to fight 5 Major Wars in the Span of a Century, that they should permanently UP their Defense, and decide to build a true, full on NAVY? And i mean this as afull Breakdown. What kind of equipment would the Soldiers carry on them? Would the Groundtroops use different Weapons compared to Starfleet? If so, how do the Weapons differ, and why are they used? Would the M.A.C.O´s be revived? What kind of training would the Soldiers get, and where? Would they utilize Groundvehicles, if so, what Types? Motorcycles, Scoutbuggys, Trooptransports, Tanks? What kind of Ships would be build for a UFP Navy? Or, more precise, how would dedicated UFP Torpedoboats, Destroyers, Cruisers, Frigates, Fighters, Carriers and Dreadnought look like? Sorry if this is overexited, or to close to Fanfiction for you, but i could not contain myself here

[@mrbuck5059]

Military Assault Command Operations! Haven't been around since the NX 01 enterprise pre federation days. I agree with your comment. The Federation should have been more ready.

[@Mellowcanuck33]

I always imagined a thousand defiant class ships built and put away in storage just waiting for the next war. Just ready to be brought out and have new systems installed.

[@rlstafford4359]

If you would compare it to a battle in WWII, I would say it was akin to Iwo Jima.

[@MrTilbin]

Rock on all those Steamrunner and Akira classes. Woooooo!

[@nicholaschan8750]

Was the Fraser style of narration and sarcasm intentional? Because I like it 😂🎉

[@qwerty134689]

Some of best music in that episode ❤

[@flashtu]

Like quark says We are still animals, try to remove the smartphone from your kid and you will think klingen are polite.

[@gups4963]

Will Robertson came all that way to get peace between DS9 and Babylon 5, a real hero. Looks a bit like Lenir to Edit- Robinson, how did I blow that lol

[@josepha.r5839]

My favorite of all his roles.

[@STSWB5SG1FAN]

Bill Mummy showed up on DS9, Majel Barrett showed up on Babylon 5

[@Maniac742]

Of he's not Will Robinson. He's Lennier.

[@willadeefriesland5107]

Forget the Romulan Ale. It's WARNOG all around! Celebrate the fallen heroes of the battle with a Klingon drink retroactively named for a certain large-lobed Starfleet ensign. Grilka would no doubt be proud of her 'nephew'...

[@poil8351]

you mean Prune juice a warriors drink.

[@willadeefriesland5107]

@@poil8351 considering the way the battle 'went' at times (to excrement with supply, personnel, and execution of plans) that prune juice's properties COULD be more appropriate. 🙂 No, I was thinking of the fact that young Nog went to war. Not to necessarily fight, but he joined Starfleet because he saw the future for himself and his people as part of the Federation. (And a little bit of fear of... and shame over, how his father tried to be a 'good' Ferenghi, instead of a great engineer. Lo' and behold then, Rom becomes Nagus and we finally get to see the result of THAT on a Lower Decks story with Ferengnar joining...

[@VVeremoose]

The Dominion war didn't see "milions of deaths" It was trillions.

[@Wildcard120]

A great episode. And yes it was worth it. A brief bit of fan fiction. The Nebula class Starship that The Defiant passes after it blew up that Breen warship was the USS Avenger NCC-1860-C. It survived the attack thanks to her captain’s (Paul Linden the grandson of Sam Linden who survived the Triacus ST TOS And the Children Shall Lead) unique ability to detect energy surges. Taking the helm and ordering his chief engineer to divert auxiliary power to the maneuvering thrusters he deftly dodges the the energy weapons while retreating from the battlefield and beaming up survivors along the way. Just as it looks like the Avenger’s luck is running out a squadron of Klingon birds of prey arrives and beats back his attackers.

[@shaunsmith1582]

Always liked Rhys when I seen this episode for the first time and always wondered what happened to him after this, the way he left with the ds9 crew always made me think he was going to join them when I was younger haha

[@chrissonofpear1384]

In the Tales of the Dominion War book, we do learn what happens to Reese. He survives the war, and is assigned to help guard the Changeling Leader... but then, he gets tempted to exact... justice, @shaunsmith1582 . And I won't spoil anymore, except to say it's a short, but sweet, tale...

[@TheJasonBorn]

Honestly, I would have thought the Frontier Day Celebration Massacre was the bloodiest battle.

[@canis2020]

You know what never gets any love? Worker Bee's.

[@stevenewman1393]

🖖😎👍Very cool and very nicely well done and very nicely executed and very well informatively explained in every detail way shape and form on this format and subject matter provided on AR558 indeed, A job very nicely and greatly well done as told by you Sir!,👌.

[@mrbuck5059]

Where was the Enterprise E? It wouldve been helpful with Sovereign class starships. Sovereigns have type 14 phasers and loaded with quantum torpedoes.

[@thanqualthehighseer]

Weapons OFF LINE! Engines OFF LINE! Shields OFF LINE! Kitchen Sink OFF LINE!

[@hughsmith7504]

All systems non-nominal!

[@richardfairbrass5760]

the Breen always bugged me. from no where, defects to the domminion and has a super weapon every major power is criticaly week too, hasnt fallen into the hands of any of them including the borg over many years of raiding in the sector?

[@bezelboot6652]

The Breen from what I understand were one of the more stand-offish, keep to themselves, never go out exploring races in Star Trek. The main reason for the Breen Confederacy joining the Dominion were the "territorial concessions," they were offered by the Vorta, this was the final straw that led to Danmar breaking off with the Dominion.

[@88porpoise]

The Breen did not "defect" to the Dominion, they were never part of the Alliance. They just sided with the Dominion. For their superweapon, we don't know how long prior it was developed or if it was available in sufficient numbers prior to the Dominion War. And why not use it? Maybe they lacked the numbers to follow up an initial victory. As for the political side, there is a good chance that Changeling infiltrators were manipulating them much like they did other Alpha Quadrant species. They also seem to have not been a neighbour of the Federation but on the far side of the Cardassian (and possibly other states) territory so direct conflict with the Federation.

[@derek86ux]

Thank you for explaining to everyone what they already knew.

[@TrekCentral]

You know it everybody knows all the stuff you do right? - Jack

[@TheJoker1701]

How about a video on the history of the USS Syracuse?

[@TerrenceChilds-xz3xu]

Why won't Starfleet used belt-fed machine guns to hold that bass?

[@farshnuke]

One thing that I think is worth bearing in mind is that there's an episode of DS9 where a group of geniuses predict the future and decide that the only way to save the Alpha Quadrant is to lose the war in the hope of a future uprising - in otherwords defeat is so certain the best gamble is failing in the best way possible. We know that didn't happen so you can just say that the geniuses were wrong. I think it's worth considering why they were wrong. They didn't expect Starfleet to be so brutal nor frankly so stubborn and dumb as to hold things like the Chintoka system. Why is holding the Chintoka system a good thing when they ultimately lost it and it brutally messed up everybody there? Well every attack against the Chintoka system was an attack that wasn't against a ship yard or a planet or somewhere more strategically important. If you outright said to Starfleet "You are going to hold this system at great cost and yes you'll get some minor intelligence info but the main benefit will be a long term diversionary tactic." then they'd tell you quite rightly to go to hell and I doubt anyone in universe would consider the cost in lives and suffering worth it but in terms of the war I think it helped.

[@dr.zippymcscoots8725]

Nothing a 100 Defiants couldn't handle....

[@mrbuck5059]

Or 50 sovereign class.

[@reclaimatorerebus6531]

I always wonder how this would have played out it if the Next Generation episode ""The Measure of a Man" had gone differently. Androids of Data's caliber seem far more capable than even the Jem-Hadar. This was also an interesting aspects of the Mirror Universe to me. If you look at all the tech original trek had but chose not to use, and assign similar tech to the Mirror Universe, it never made sense to me that the Mirror Universe Earth Empire even fell. From what we see of the technology available to the Federation, the viral option of Unit 37 was actually rather low key.

[@Phandarius]

When are we going to get a video about Tribbles?!

[@demariusperry9233]

Wait, the Breen weapon even shut down the Smoothie maker! Now that's Vicious!

[@22steve5150]

I can't get over what a difference one lousy goddamn machine gun would have made.

[@erixouther]

Long Live Nog

[@killingragethrowback]

Moopsy still lives rent free in my mind.

[@BathrobeKeck]

Watching an Akira class get ragdolled by the Dominion platforms hurts.

[@jackylee5850]

The loss at Chin'toka meant those defending AR558 died in vain after all this time with nothing to show for it. Then again, in the time leading up to the 24th century if someone had bothered to pass down the importance of EMP shielding the Breen wouldn't have been an issue.

[@shanenolan5625]

Cheers Adam

[@drewayling326]

Tribbles - do an episode on tribbles!

[@michaelcayce9880]

I suggestthis topic: How only the Borg can bring equality and social justice to the Star Trek Universe! 💣

[@alanmike6883]

Idea for topic Trek central. The entire character arc for nog and rom

[@rodneyleong3787]

Starfleet HQ is in the Marin Headlands, according to that shot...

[@redhillstudios1701-F]

Quick question for the fanhome Enterprise. It says it starts at 8 dollars. How much is the whole thing when completed? I couldn’t find any information on the site

[@Suntizo]

2000 give or take

[@fritzelly7309]

@@Suntizo are you serious?!?!

[@christopherp.1391]

@@fritzelly7309 Yeah, I was thinking of doing it until I did the math.

[@redhillstudios1701-F]

@@Suntizoyea actually?

[@colinleat8309]

I've always imagined that they sabotaged or distroyed the communication station.

[@mikelayfield4425]

tribbles would be great topic

[@johncee853]

Rest in peace Nog. Hello Lennier from Babylon 5!

[@boddapatiraja]

This is my favorite episode of DS9 atfer this only In the pale moon light. Nag character rac at its best. "Captian, the aray it is worth it right," "I hope to God it is".

[@Thereisalwaysmore]

I would have also left a contingent of Klingon personal as well.

[@thomassalois3508]

When Damar said resist he proved resistance is not Futile😮

[@SweetSweetCandyBoyz]

let us know if you ever want some upscaled DS9 footage, that's who whole deal

[@ortwinvomschildberg4717]

Make a Tribble video ;)

[@mrbuck5059]

The Federation needs a battleship.

[@chrismurphy5629]

Give me a Akira and two K'Vort class birds of prey and two Valdores and that is a awesome squadron!

[@bigolboomerbelly4348]

Duet ITPML Ar 558 Visitor Tribulations Must watch tv period

[@Ash31415]

So it's DS9 does The Alamo

[@dderossett]

ezri has some other scenes that need to be looked up in other films.........the dominion war episodes are the best of any star trucks ever......

[@yourstruly4817]

All the resources got into the fleet, no combat armor or tanks apparently

[@sanderrod9917]

worst? the D losing a battle to a bird or prey

[@TheOmegaRiddler]

Tribbles have enough love. All they do is breed.

[@paulkelk5142]

TRIBBLES TRIBBLES TRIBBLES

[@jasondubbin9522]

Kira commanded the Defiant in first battle of Chintoka not sisko

[@shanenolan5625]

Danger will Robinson!

[@phoboskittym8500]

Really they could have just beamed the whole com array into a starship cargo bay and no need to defend an outpost

[@WINTEJER000]

Ok, i'll say it. Lets do tribbles😊

[@robmc3338]

Surely the Klingon invasion of the Tribble home world was the bloodyist....

[@TrekCentral]

“Federations” ;) - Jack

[@r-1093]

I often wondered why the federation does not have a pure military wing, marines or something. Seems a waste to use highly educated officers as foot soldiers.

[@darktear099]

It should be Captain Nog

[@trazyntheinfinite9895]

Ar558 showed how shig srarfleet is at ground battles. Ond of 2 50 cal would have ended any foot assault....

[@leanderengeseth7452]

Exeter class

[@leanderengeseth7452]

Fra star Trek online

[@harrygariss2528]

Tribbles

[@wnn866]

star war is a story

[@probochronicles3991]

With the Founder flaking like dead skin....

[@radeadcool]

Nah ships are cool. Keep to ships!

[@SpaceBoiProot]

#PoorBridgeDrive

[@cyvaldez9528]

Your commentary is exceptional but please, please stop all the stupid jokes in the middle of critical comments!! It's annoying and takes away from what is otherwise some exempliery writing and insight!! A joke here or there is ok but sometimes you just take it way too far!!! You can do so much better.. please try to do so!!! Quaplah!!! 🖖🏽🖖🏽🖖🏽

[@jojobobo6661]

pajama's for soldiers?

[@JoseGonzalezIV]

MOOPSY!!

[@bigolboomerbelly4348]

The Breen weren't all bad. They did attack SF.

[@BackyardShenanigansYT]

#PoorStardrive

[@Mark-qq7io]

Good making a lot better if you lose the silly accent you're trying to