10 Star Trek Re-Shoots That Totally Changed The Ending

[@AndrewD8Red]

I officially endorse an Ups and Downs series for Trek Classique. Maybe a poll on the community page for which specific episodes people would like to see done?

[@adam1third]

Collectively vote on 52 episodes from all pre-discovery trek to do Ups and Downs for? That's one a week for a whole year! I'd certainly watch.

[@HariSeldon913]

5a. The rock men that were taken out were what inspired the rock creature Tim Allen had to fight in GalaxyQuest.

[@zacharyjochumsen9677]

Hari yeh the rocmen did inspire the rock monster in glaxy quest

[@topogigio7031]

For real or is that a coincidence you want to turn into a fact?

[@shagggyman]

Wow. What will they come up with next. PshycoHistory maybe. :)

[@risenancient]

Nimoy didn't ask to kill Spock, he was asked "How would you like a great death scene?" and he was intrigued. Read or listen to "I am Spock". Other then that, great video

[@Revan2908]

I love that book!

[@leandar]

He also stated this numerous times in interviews, one is seen on the Star Trek III DVD I believe, where he was initially being denied the chance to direct the movie because he wanted Spock killed, he had it put in his contract supposedly. Nimoy flat out told Michael Eisner (I believe), who was running Paramount back then, to go have the contract for Star Trek II pulled up if Eisner didn't believe him, but he said that he did believe Nimoy and so shortly afterward, he was given permission to direct.

[@Mozart1220]

I have it that he didn't want another "motion Picture" experience and only agreed to play Spock if it would be the last time. But the Kahn" experience was much better and that, along with the chance to direct #3, convinced him to continue.

[@theelvenwtich]

Wow, I had no idea that 5 could have been any worse.

[@SayAhh]

I wonder if the rock monster from Galaxy Quest was inspired by this.

[@theelvenwtich]

@@SayAhh I don't want to stain Galaxy Quest with that, but I fear you may be right. But it was also a bit like the Gorn fight.

[@andrewmurray1550]

@@SayAhh or if Marvel's "The Thing" inspired the rock monsters.

[@Heymrk]

I like to watch 5. It's not good at all, but bad/good. It's fun to watch with friends while you mercilessly mock it.

[@bethanyhait6880]

Aw, those Yosemite scenes are hysterical.

[@ussvoyager8650]

I'm sure glad that Kate Mulgrew played Captain Janeway

[@Mozart1220]

I'm not. She's a great actress but that voice is annoying to me. I would have rather seen someone like Uhura get the ship. Much more pleasing voice.

[@ussvoyager8650]

@@Mozart1220 I like Kate Mulgrew's voice I think it's quite sexy

[@GabePuratekuta]

@@Mozart1220 What if it was Lindsay Wagner instead?

[@philmorton4590]

Starting to see why star trek discovery isn't doing very well in it's ratings, they don't do all this soul searching for the best outcome to keep their audience approval and faith from the fans.

[@TairnKA]

At 8:00; the infamous Paramount blunder, it's rumored when Roddenberry saw the error (didn't know until a fan showed him), all he said was "Paramount".

[@SNBgames]

Ups & Downs for older Trek?

[@jamesmc1038]

That is a great idea

[@QuixoteX]

Avery Brooks is so good, mere mortals can't handle it!

[@hobbychain]

The Sisko approves this message.

[@gowzahr]

For me, Kirk asking if they had made a difference that really gets to me.

[@shiddy.]

I've always wondered how that torpedo casket they launched spock's body out of made the perfect landing that it did on genesis

[@silmarian]

It’s been a hot minute since I read the books, but I think it was explained away as gravity fluctuations because the Genesis field was still in flux.

[@scottmcintosh4397]

It would be interesting to see the original footage that was removed from these movies & shows 📺👀 🌌🔭

[@richardfrostell9395]

Garrett Wang once corrected me on pronouncing his last name. It's more like wong.

[@heartattackjack9349]

I still think Picard and Kirk didn't leave the Nexus. You can't just will yourself to a different time, and it plays out differently. They were still in the Nexus, and played the roles they saw for themselves. Picard is currently playing out his life as he saw it progress. Kirk is still in the Nexus, and has returned to his fantasy life once again, having played one more Captain's adventure, and is satisfied with retirement, or he returned to the Enterprise in the fantasy. Why do I say all that? The Nexus wasn't on Earth. Kirk was either on Earth, or a planet like Earth, in his fantasy, but he was dead in the "real world.' or MIA. How could they go from the Nexus on Earth when the Nexus was never there to begin with? The to go to a place in time the Nexus touched? Plot hole, loophole, or just lazy writing. Either way, Kirk is not dead, and Picard is not in the real world anymore. that's how he's able to be the hero, even at his age.

[@GrandmasterDevo]

Isn't there a cut moment in the Voyager episode "Unimatrix Zero Part 2" where the Borg Queen assimilates Harry? I remember her line "We'll see you soon, Harry" in Part 1 and I distinctly recall seeing what may have been production photos online at the time showing Harry on a surgical table with the Queen standing over him.

[@joelellis7035]

Sorry, but saying that Bujold's performance in the scenes that she shot for the Voyager pilot were "solid" is a flat out lie. They were weak because Bujold did not carry the command presence needed for her character. Her dialogue was softer than the other actors in the scenes and she clearly was not fitting in with the dynamic. Her departure was not as abrupt as you implied. Bujold was not up on her script and they were seeking to reshoot the scenes that she had already shot. It's very evident that she refused to reshoot the scenes and the ultimatum was made that the scenes would be reshot with or without her.

[@patrickmccurry1563]

She looked barely awake or moderately stoned. "Solid" was not in the same galaxy as her performance.

[@alexsummers9140]

I saw the footage, too, and your description is 100% accurate

[@speedracer1945]

@@patrickmccurry1563 she always looked stoned . Mulgrew had that nagging commanding voice and was natural for the role and had a certain presence on the bridge .

[@rcknbob1]

@@speedracer1945 If you saw her play an Army Captain in "Remo Williams: The Adventure Begins", you see the embryonic Janeway (kinda played for laughs, though).

[@euphorik6]

totally agreed, joel. voyager would have been a complete disaster with bujold as janeway. mulgrew's janeway exuded command authority from scene 1. bujold's janeway exuded little else but palpable discomfort and a vacant deer-in-the-headlights expression.

[@slavaukraini1991]

The captain remains on the bridge til the very end... 👀

[@thedarkonestaint6105]

The expanse is so amazing. Finishing the final book and season now.

[@clrlmiller]

I just cringe when the scene showing Kirk leaving the air lock in Star Trek: The Motion Picture shows all the stage bits and aluminum racks. The scene was left out for the theatre release and never finished the effects portion. It just got tacked on for the cable TV release and stuck around.

[@JaguarCats]

Wasn't there another scene shot in Generations where Kirk actually survived? Quoting "The 24th Century doesn't seem so tough!"

[@teg24601]

Only in "The Return"

[@speedracer1945]

He did say that before Saran shot him in the back then Picards shoots Saran in the test audience version . I remember seeing a quick teaser and Shatner saying that line

[@speedracer1945]

@@teg24601 I enjoyed the Return and the other six or so that followed by Shatner and as his Ghost Writers Garfield Steven's Reeves and at that time there was speculation that these novels deserved a mini series based on them but as history tells us it never happened. The duo writers Reeves should had wrote screenplays for the following Trek films since they seemed to know all the characters and how Star Trek worked.

[@dr_joel_fm]

Wow sisko always breaking new levels in st

[@LarryLeeMoniz]

Fantastic work Sean! LLAP.

[@plasmaburndeath]

I still think Picard used Nexus to Save his Nephew from the fire, it would be an interesting twist if that were to come out.

[@gallery7596]

I think making V'ger more villainous might've given "ST: TMP" the excitement it lacked.

[@brunozeigerts6379]

I had Star Trek the Motion Picture on video tape. The now deleted scene of Kirk spacewalking after Spock had two problems. One is that Kirk is wearing a different spacesuit when he leaves than when he finds Spock.(in space... no-one can hear you change clothes?) Also, the scaffolding holding up the set is visible.

[@greektexan2637]

The bridge might not have broken if Kirk had eaten less marsh melons…

[@DK-ub5ph]

What's a marsh melon?

[@nevermorenovelist]

@@DK-ub5ph It's like a marshmallow, only _bigger._

[@darrenhann5026]

Great video

[@Wimpoman]

"Bridge on the Captain."

[@RichardBejtlich]

This was a great video. Thank you.

[@morrisgautreau6704]

Hello Seán! 🖖🏻👨🏻‍🦲👍🏻Another great video! Just leaving a comment for the algorithm! I really want this channel to grow BIG! Live Long And Prosper!

[@1701_FyldeFlyer]

Surprised ST:Nemesis ending didnt get in this list.

[@frankmoniz1467]

Awesome list! Live long and prosper.

[@thefifthGV]

You could have just not killed Kirk 🤷‍♂️

[@GregDeocampoogle]

I love the scene in Insurrection where Picard won't let Data go and almost crashes him and Work into the planet to save him.

[@joelellis7035]

Auto-correct not recognize "Worf"?

[@arrjay2410]

Fascinating.

[@KatieRose927]

Loved this!!!

[@frankharr9466]

It's interesting how things can change, isn't it?

[@jamesmc1038]

Great vid

[@JohnALong-nl2hj]

Wish I could see videos, using the original endings. Just for comparison.

[@jefferygeter4998]

Release the shakner cut!!!!! ⚡

[@Ser_Redshirt]

I flippin' loved Insurrection.

[@theodorehaverson5079]

Kirk's death was horrendous! Thank goodness Shatner wrote "The Return" series!

[@Blasted2Oblivion]

Considering how small the Baku settlement was, I feel like they could have just parked on the other side of the planet and avoided the whole movie.

[@baskkev7459]

10 I think is the one that would have been better

[@Rocketsong]

Key Takaway: Star Trek, the Motionless Picture, could have been even longer with worse pacing than the released version.

[@patrickmccurry1563]

Tried to be 2001: A Space Odyssey, and not very well, IMO.

[@WarpigGaming.]

You can never fail with Kirk ending on a bridge ......or a bridge ending Kirk

[@nevermorenovelist]

Bridge on the Captain!

[@NightHawke]

As it turned out, I'm glad Genevive Bujold quit when the quitting was good. V'Ger descended into a terrible mess of a series before they even finished the first season, dispensing with all the interesting interpersonal drama within the first five eps or so. Would have been a waste of Bujold's time and talent. If you'd read Lisbeth Shatner's excellent behind-the-scenes book on Star Trek V, you'd know that the production was subject to not only a labor strike during production, but a couple budget cuts to boot. Paramount didn't give them enough money to finish the climactic battle with the God of Sha-Ka-Ree as intended. The rock monster stuff was an attempt to salvage something of what had been planned, but they didn't have the budget to even bring them off well enough.

[@docholliday7157]

Oh my

[@Chris-rp9df]

Has anyone considered a new CGI TOS? Im reasonably sure the software (stuff like vocaloid) is there or thereabouts.

[@sureshmukhi2316]

You mean remastered? They did that more than 10 years ago.

[@Chris-rp9df]

@@sureshmukhi2316 No. CGI episodes.. all new ones Technology has progressed to the point where all new episodes can be made within a computer. Computers can be programmed to replicate a persons voice perfectly. The only limit would be the writers imagination And Shatner could have all the rock monsters he wants

[@nevermorenovelist]

_Star Trek: Deep Fake Nine..._

[@vinniemorciglio4632]

Kirk died alone on the bridge, so......

[@jyesucevitz]

Kirk's final words McAfee test audiences happy? would Kirk's body have really been left on an alien planet?

[@AlexandarHullRichter]

Not permanently, for sure, but Picard didn't know when to expect a rescue.

[@petermcgill1315]

“You can catch myself...”???????

[@HITMANPegas]

Joran Dax is just Avery Brooks's normal self.

[@johnburla]

I liked Gregory Sierra best in Barney Miller, which sadly wasn't mentioned here. Oh, I am a bit biased, as I do own the entire series. :-)

[@leejohnstone894]

As we all know " Undiscovered Country" Spock volunteer Kirk to bring the Klingon chancellor to earth for peace talks. Obviously Spock wanted to show Kirk not all Klingons are bad. Showing what a insensitive jerk he is

[@leejohnstone894]

Trekkies or trekkers thinks Spock is a great character, remember with fondness. Spock is a BESTERD

[@waltererhart3161]

You forgot to tell fans that about LeVar Burton being a racist. But he did not seem to let that show while he was making millions while acting on The Next Gen.

[@aurongrande6141]

Why not do a video theorizing how various races would deal with a Planet Killer that's heading towards major planets in their territory?

[@shaggycan]

Is it just me or are the JJ movies SO forgettable. I saw Beyond and I think I just erased it before I got back to my car to go home after.

[@kevinmoore8780]

Agree. I was thinking, which one was Beyond?

[@andrewmurray1550]

@@kevinmoore8780 third one wasn't ? INto Darkness was the second one.

[@YeoYeo32]

Insurrection is absolutely as bad, if not worse, than it’s reputation would have you believe.

[@bedtimesd.1247]

Mulgrew was and is the worst thing that ever happened to Star Trek.

[@terrywindsor1310]

🖖🖖🖖🖖🖖🖖🖖🖖🖖🖖🖖🖖🖖

[@Aragorn7884]

Yes. Yes, ST: Insurrection _is_ as bad as its reputation 🤷‍♂️🤦‍♂️🙄

[@johnbockelie3899]

In the TNG episode " The most toys, " Data's shuttle was named " Pike" after Christopher Pike.( look at the name on its front door area) Makes sense Data gets held prisoner by a collector.

[@tnspnk3]

It's funny...I know what you mean, but it actually has some good moments...they just don't add up to a good movie. Which is Ironic: " Have you ever experienced a perfect moment in time?" "A perfect moment?" "When time seemed to stop, and you could almost live in that moment." "Seeing my home planet from space, for the first time."

[@BennyT_3434]

Has time really been that kind to Generations?? Wish they would have re-shot the D getting destroyed, shoulda pulverized that old Klingon ship and lived to be damaged beyond repair by the Borg in First Contact

[@Martial-Mat]

Rappaport didn't _attempt_ to die by suicide - he killed himself.

[@anonymousscience4095]

He did attempt. The first attempt was by carbon monoxide poisoning via car exhaust, which is what got him replaced for the episode. In a later second attempt, he shot and killed himself.

[@Martial-Mat]

@@anonymousscience4095 Aha, thanks for the clarification Damon.

[@chrissmith7669]

Insurrection was almost as lame as first contact. Amazingly bad writing

[@sureshmukhi2316]

First Contact was way better thanks to James Cromwell.

[@thereddog223]

Janyway is a horrible captain

[@sureshmukhi2316]

Why?

[@thereddog223]

@@sureshmukhi2316 she cared more about the delta quadrant than her own crew

[@jeremiahmitchell6420]

Meybe Voyager would suked less if Mulgrew wasn't Janeway?

[@Chris-rp9df]

Voyager would have sucked less if there was some character development. And if everyone wasnt so bloody optomistic.

[@nevermorenovelist]

@@Chris-rp9df Voyager would have sucked less if it even tried to have better writers. And no Neelix.

[@Aragorn7884]

Star Trek V *is* 🔥💩

[@robgoffroad]

I largely ignore 1, 5, and all the next-gen movies except First Contact. As far as I'm concerned, they don't entirely exist. Along with any TNG episode with Wil Douchebag Wheaton in it.

[@johnchedsey1306]

Well, aren't you just a peach?

[@Bayoutot]

I watch V for the 1701-A ... she's a beauty ... its like Titanic ... the story is lame, the ship sinks ... but she's still marvelous to look at lol

[@BruinPhD2009]

Wow.