12 Actors Who Hated Being On Star Trek

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Some people would give their left arm to appear on Star Trek and some other people feel it cost them the equivalent of it...
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[@LoreReloaded]

Omg omg omg!!

[@JAGtheTrekkieGEMINI1701]

Damn... HOW did you make it into this video!? 😁👍

[@Saint_nobody]

My sediments exactly.

[@danehutchins3845]

To think all you had to do is threaten to cut off your arm.

[@iamthedarkmagician475]

We fuckin love you Lore!!!! 🖖🏾🖖🏾

[@NeonVisual]

The tables have turned, now most of the fandom don't want nutrek

[@larrackell]

I never can fathom the leap of logic it takes to send death threats to an *actor* for the actions of a *fictional character.*

[@SoManyRandomRamblings]

Exactly....anyone who did that clearly cannot separate fiction and reality and shouldn't be allowed to wander around society, they are potentially super dangerous.

[@scottgainey602]

Trekies though

[@waynemarvin5661]

They send death threats to actors in between writing moronic comments on KZbin videos.

[@JohnSmith-eo5sp]

Happens all the time. Trekkers live in their own universe, divorced from reality

[@troodon1096]

Especially since the character was a villain... you're not SUPPOSED to like what they do.

[@Lewis5020]

Many of these actors disliked their roles so much they returned *many* times!

[@batheandrelaxinmyshit6344]

Toilet paper

[@mopar_dude9227]

Kurt Helf as long as the check clears, those whores will be there.

[@ourladyofguadalupebotanica6732]

It's hard to find a pay check as an actor. You take what you can get. Similar to WWE - complain complain, but sign another contract with them.

[@garyelliott3023]

They were typecast and couldn't find anything else.

[@ArtofFreeSpeech]

@@yalbad5160 If something is THAT bad, you don't return to it no matter what. For instance, you couldn't pay me enough to mow another lawn after working one summer for a landscaping company. That's the point. It wasn't SO bad that they refused to return, and in fact, returned time and time after time.... and for NONE of them was it all they could get. Every single one of the actors mentioned have a long resume with plenty of non-ST related things mentioned.

[@unclecreepy4073]

Actor on Star Trek: I just wish my character was used a little bit more. What Culture: STAR TREK ACTOR HATES BEING ON STAR TREK!!

[@blackdog6969]

Harry Kim's actor deserved his role as director of an episode and he deserved that promotion

[@andersonlucas1951]

@@blackdog6969 At least he was the only one depicted as captain in every alternate future.

[@skepticalfaith5201]

@Robo Bongo I hope you’re being sarcastic. Half a season of Voyager turned me off to the franchise forever.

[@sabrewolf4129]

@@skepticalfaith5201 Disgracery and JJ Trek and the new Picard series did that for me. Orville is more Trek than that garbage.

[@manhunter3429]

KATE MULDRY I hope I spelled that right, was not the first female captain on Star Trek, In the movie the Voyage Home, Marge Sinclair was Captain of a Star ship unless you mean female captain of a TV series and not a full movie.

[@McfloniMcflooneyloo]

Not a true whatculture-list without mispronunciation of names, RIP L'naaaaard Nimoy

[@phily8093]

And of course the infamous, Doctor Sauron, M.D.

[@mookiebrown79]

I came here for this

[@Inlitener]

Marcus is gorgeous, so he can do no wrong! 😍❤️

[@chrisarseneault5617]

​@@phily8093as in Sauran Wrap.

[@robjeanbras1130]

Anyone that thought Brent Spiner could only ever be Data is not old enough to remember Night Court.

[@AFmedic]

He did a great job in "The Juror #6 Job" Episode of Leverage.

[@JohnSmith-eo5sp]

Don't remember him on night court. I remember him as a villain doctor on the new outer limits from the mid 90s

[@StormyPeak]

@@JohnSmith-eo5sp Search KZbin for a few Night Court Brent Spiner clips...that show was So Wonderful! And Brent was on a few times as a country bumkin in the big city...he was so funny.

[@StormyPeak]

@Stefano Pavone he was also in the movie, Independence Day. And too, in another sci-fi tv show I liked, called Warehouse 13. But it's almost impossible to think of his name and not immediately think "Data" :)

[@theonetruerobb4852]

No one remembers Night Court....

[@Sindraug25]

What was even worse for Harry Kim was that Tom Paris was recruited out of prison and immediately given the rank of lieutenant. Later on in the show he is punished with a demotion to ensign, then later gets promoted back to lieutenant. All the while, model officer Harry Kim is still an ensign.

[@benjaminbierley2074]

Have to dig it back up, but I recall here that the writers did in fact screw Garrett Wang pretty hard during the series run. It really is a sad fact that as progressive as the series itself is, there are a lot of examples of discrimination from the writers all throughout the franchise's history.

[@Sindraug25]

@@benjaminbierley2074 Yeah, I remember something about his wanting to direct an episode. He asked a number of times, and they kept telling him no, and he was the only cast member who didn't get to direct.

[@neplatnyudaj110]

@@Sindraug25 I wouldn't let a mere ensign to direct an episode either.

[@stephennovak1800]

Didn't Harry Kim die, and then replaced with another Harry Kim from another dimension?

[@jfbeam]

@@stephennovak1800 The ship was duplicated in that one sucky Vedian episode. He took the baby and went to the "other" ship, replacing both who had died on that ship.

[@GeneralG1810]

Ironic since I honestly believe Harry Kim was one of the better developed characters in Voyager, he went from the shy unsure ensign, to the confident man not afraid to voice his opinion, and in the time travel episode "Timeless" he was that determined angry man who wanted to fix his past errors. I really liked the character of Harry Kim and thought Wang played it well

[@dacsus]

But that actor was really bad. Best actors were Robert Picardo and Jeri Ryan. And both of them can even sing.

[@GeneralG1810]

@@dacsus Oh I don't know Tim Russ was fantastic as a Vulcan, and Dawson was great playing a human/Klingon hybrid. To be honest I don't think there were any bad actors in the bunch. But yes Picardo and Ryan can sing quite well

[@dacsus]

@@GeneralG1810 sure, but those two were the best. And sorry, but Garrett Wang was boring as f. No acting skills at all.

[@GeneralG1810]

@@dacsus Maybe but my comment is more about the character arc, not the guy playing it. But I have seen worse acting, all the new ST shows that just check the diversity boxes have TERRIBLE actors!

[@chriskelly6574]

I agree. He would have been a great mate eh.

[@marka.200]

12 Actors Who Were Mildly Annoyed With Being On Star Trek is more like it.

[@My2Cents1]

12 Actors Who Were Mildly Annoyed With Being On Star Trek, But Are Now Fine With It. LOL

[@pflaffik]

Both of you should not be in focus-groups to test out good names for TV shows. Now add that into the title.

[@troy2478]

I would say 2 actors that hated it and 10 that were annoyed but not enough to stay away.

[@clevestercrittenden2089]

I think hate is a little strong, especially concerning Leonard Nimoy and Brent Spiner.

[@StormyPeak]

How did the announcer manage to mispronounce almost ever actor and character name from the various Star Trek series? lol.

[@o-mangaming5042]

Intentionally. What Culture is a business. They play the game. Their announcers fuck up A LOT on purpose to get people making comments like yours so the algorithm bumps them up. It's all about view times and comments with this place. More comments gets you a higher ranking and puts you closer to the front page and the trending mark.

[@clickrick]

@@o-mangaming5042 It also garners thumbs-downs.

[@o-mangaming5042]

@@clickrick No publicity is bad publicity. Otherwise they'd already be broke.

[@y_fam_goeglyd]

@@o-mangaming5042 yeah, I heard another KZbinr say that it doesn't make any difference whether people give a thumbs up or down, it means people care enough to give a reaction. The more likes/dislikes they get, along with comments, the more the algorithm notices them. Nobody can say for sure that that is actually part of the algorithm, because that's secret (and it seems to change over time), but they've noticed that they're more likely to be recommended and get ads if there are many reactions. I have a quiet theory that certain channels, particularly animal ones, deliberately downvote their own videos, because that guarantees that some comments will always be there, indignant at how someone can't like the story of a dog rescue or similar. I used to think it was only trolls trying to get that reaction, enjoying the fallout like a kid setting off a stink bomb and watching from a distance, but now I'm not so sure...

[@ThomasMHead]

So, "Leonard" rhymes with "Picard"? Fascinating.

[@inkdreams5113]

Shut up Data...

[@Corbomite-ei1ty]

Ink Dreams Lol

[@mikesmith-pj7xz]

@@inkdreams5113 shut up Wesley😎

[@scockery]

Spock's got len-nards!

[@timhughes6674]

"Le Nard" it's french for... the testicle

[@jameswalker5796]

Garrett Wang was one of the most underused actors in Voyager. But he was the centrepiece of the best episode of the series, "Timeless"

[@pwnmeisterage]

Was he still just lowly Ensign Kim, 15 years in the future?

[@audeamus1180]

I saw Robert Beltran and Garrett Wang at a Con in Sydney, Australia after Voyager finished. Damn, did those two rip the show and its creative decisions on story and actor use to shreds. The hardcore Voyager fans were in utter shock.

[@dragonsword7370]

@ well that makes it anatomically correct for klingons.

[@Michael_ORourke]

@ I'd say Chakotay was the worst used character. They didn't seem to know how to write him other than him agreeing with Janeway or pushing Native American stereotypes. He was a leader in the Maquis resistance, he had so many opportunities.

[@piotrangelus7534]

@@pwnmeisterage In Kobali story in STO - he is captain Kim.

[@euclideszoto997]

Hate seems like a strong word for this list. Frustrations maybe better.

[@AntiKipKay]

Yes! Exactly what I was thinking

[@ArtofFreeSpeech]

Or even "mildly objected to this small thing" in some cases.

[@IgnorancEnArrogance]

It's all about the title baby, who cares about the video?

[@LeigerGaming]

"Hate" gets the clicks, unfortunately.

[@algoy001]

@@LeigerGaming Yeah, clickbaiting sucks :-)

[@SplotchTheCatThing]

You know I did kinda feel that Chakotay was a good character and he didn't get enough to do as Voyager went on...

[@meiray]

After season 2 they stopped writing him to have a rebellious Maquis streak to him. Apart from a few tepid arguments with Janeway in season premieres, he was effectively neutered from season 3 onwards.

[@audeamus1180]

Saw him at a Con in Sydney, Australia. He nearly had all the Voyager fanboys and girls in tears in how he trashed the show.

[@bobwill]

Garrett Wang doesn’t just attend conventions, he’s been the Trek Track Coordinator for Dragon Con for something like 10 years now.

[@gofastER]

Don’t forget the Delta Flyers podcast!

[@terrifictomm]

His character deserved so much more respect. And how the F*CK did he NEVER EARN A FIELD PROMOTION? Seven years an ensign? That's not just insulting, they missed an opportunity to write an exciting episode where he EARNS that promotion by doing something bad-ass. Instead he was Janeway's adult son whom she manipulates into never leaving home or getting married. Bad writing, which Star Trek had always suffered from.

[@bobwill]

@@terrifictomm well, i say that they just need to lean into it, and have him show up in Lower Decks, still as an ensign, that everyone jokingly calls “ensign grey beard” oh, hell, it could end up with him and boymler up for the same position, and Boimler has to deal with losing out to the perpetual ensign 😀

[@terrifictomm]

@@bobwill I have no idea what that is or who that is. I dunt don't follow any of the side shows. Just like Clone Wars, Rogue One, WandaVision, Falcon and the Winter Soldier, Picard, etc. They add much irrelevant clutter and claptrap that doesn't advance the Star Trek mythos. In my whole life I think I only read four Star Trek novels. And that was only because of the episodes they were sequels/prequels to. Those the writers were so good! Both were women, too. Margaret Wander Bonano and A. C. Crispin. Strangers From the Sky Dwellers in the Crucible Yesterday's Son, and Time for Yesterday. I just looked on an ebook website and apparently both authors have written several more Star Trek novels since the 80s! Ha! I think I may have to get them. But I worry the newer novels can't measure up to those four above! I'll have to see.

[@timmiller1954]

@@terrifictomm Can you re-write that in coherent English?

[@johnchedsey1306]

Although it was SO obvious Jeri Ryan was added for sex appeal to get the nerdy young male audience, Voyager did a good job with her overall story and character arc. She actually grew as a character during her time on the show... at the expense of several other characters, obviously. Glad to see she's returned to the role and it would be fun if she got at least a mini-series to explore the current version of Seven.

[@glenncordova4027]

Plus she brought back the Borg in a big way.

[@ceilingcatiswatching]

She certainly did it for me!

[@benjimain6]

Seven along with the borg and hyrogen saved the series.

[@deniseherud]

Kim and Chokotay were BORING. They had plenty of eps centered around them, but their acting was lousy and their stories were lame. Seven may have had an eye candy factor but her acting was really good and they wrote decent scenes for her....the entire arc with Icheb is even more touching after seeing Picard.

[@RobMacKendrick]

Agreed. They may have meant for her to be fan service, but the character very soon outgrew anything so superficial. And if you've ever seen Jeri Ryan out of character, you know that she did an awesome job in the role.

[@Reyfox1]

Denise Crosby should have waited. In an ensemble show like this, it takes time to develop all the key players. You start with the stars and work your way down. Look how Worf and Geordi, even O'Brien turned their roles into important ones.

[@Dargonhuman]

Yup. She wanted to be a Michael Burnham 30 years before STD was even a thought.

[@bcs2em625]

Having her out of the way, kind of left room for the character of Worf to grow.

[@annagalati34]

She bailed too early and regretted it after.

[@mem1701movies]

Terrible character and actress. Never liked how she managed to shoehorn herself back into the show once it got popular.

[@hoshireed77]

Season one SUCKED. It improved MASSIVELY. She bailed before it could get better. Probably hoping to say "I told you so" when it got canned. The attitude of : quit now before I get kicked out.

[@mahatmarandy5977]

I found the title misleading. You promised me actors who hated their time on Trek, but instead most of the list was just "Actors who were kind of pissy at some point during the course of their job, but eventually calmed down and now everything is swell."

[@MarsFKA]

Yes. Typical clickbait deception.

[@glennfalzo3718]

I agree. And most came back! Sounds to me like they enjoyed it more then they led on, especially the $!!! This was a waste of time to watch! 👎

[@Special_Tactics_Force_Unit]

First day on KZbin??

[@mahatmarandy5977]

@@Special_Tactics_Force_Unit Why, yes, it was. What gave me away? Was it that I was polite?

[@mahatmarandy5977]

@@glennfalzo3718 very much agree

[@AgentExeider]

I loved McDowell as Soran, he wasn't just a 2D villain, he has a motivation and though perhaps his methods were immoral, all he wanted to get back to the place he considered home. Not to mention that since Guinan showed that the "nexus echo" thing is a thing, that soran wanted to reunify with his other-self.

[@lindenstromberg6859]

I think the hate for Pulaski came because of her bullying of Data, but her character added an interesting dynamic to Star Trek. IMO, the intercrew storylines of DS9 and Voyager were much more interestig because of the greater amount of tension between characters than what existed on TNG.

[@LoriPeace]

I remember reading back when DS9 was starting up, that everyone got along with everyone else onboard the Enterprise because Gene Roddenberry was trying to build a utopian future without conflict among friends or allies. The only conflict came with enemies / outsiders. But he died in 1992 (if I remember correctly) and that sort of opened the door for the producers to make grittier, darker shows like DS9 and Voyager, where people worked together because it was convenient or necessary but weren't necessarily best friends.

[@TheJosep70]

George R. R. Martin once said that Tasha Yar's death was a big influence on his writing as he felt it was quite shocking for a show like TNG.

[@BrokenCurtain]

Armus killed Ned Stark?

[@MFSeaMen]

@@BrokenCurtain Entertain Me!

[@BrokenCurtain]

@@MFSeaMen Now that I think about it, Joffrey and Armus actually have quite a bit in common.

[@poeleabois]

Yet, there was a lot of characters being killed in other source of inspiration : Les Rois Maudits

[@briannaamore1383]

If GRRM had written Star Trek, Captain Picard would have been killed off at the end of the first season and Wesley Crusher would have become a highly trained secret assassin.

[@antney7745]

Harry Kim: "I didn't see a little box on my chair..." Janeway: "You have a chair? Tuvok, correct that mistake."

[@anihtgenga4096]

I always thought they called him Hairy Quim?

[@NoFormalTraining]

Poor dumb Harry.

[@benjimain6]

nice one.

[@pickeljarsforhillary102]

Kim: You cant throw me in the bring for insubordination! I am a civilian now! Janeway: Tuvok, shove Mr Kim into Nelix's ship and eject it out of the shuttle bay. Nelix: Um...that would be my ship you are about to launching into space and may I suggest that you could at least... Janeway: Nelix, would you like to keep Mr Kim company while you both drift in space?

[@Rigel7WasAlreadyUsed]

Good ol L'nard Nimoy.

[@shumookerjee293]

Actually, it's "L'nard N'moy" which is of course, the Vulcan spelling of his name

[@LarryLeeMoniz]

I am surprised he didn't say N'moy too!

[@Jarsia]

Also Da Knees Crosby

[@ujustgotpwned2008]

M'lady L'nard

[@bitters31]

Leonard Nimoy

[@lisamann]

I had the pleasure of meeting Grace Lee Whitney at a convention, she and I hit it off as friends immediately- she and I were both sober, and had once been married to a drummer! When she signed her book, she gave me her phone number. She said she had a lovely ranch and that if I were ever in her area, to call her and she would put my band up. Sadly she passed away before I had that chance. She was one of the kindest people I've ever met.

[@phillippi2]

#2: Brent also played a role in Enterprise. That was Dr. Noonian Soong's grand father.

[@dashfatbastard]

I love you, but what's up with the weird pronunciation of Nimoy's first name? "Luh-NARD"?!? It's LEN-ard, and it's never been anything but.

[@ragemydream]

and also '"Frer- quent" and not "Free-quent"

[@BangerangEliko]

@@ragemydream right? Both of those bugged me. Like, how?

[@ClickBeetleTV]

It's almost like he has an accent so he pronounces words differently than you do!

[@dashfatbastard]

@@ClickBeetleTV No, that's not it. I'm a stage performer with 40+ of experience, training, and know-how u der my belt, and though I'm not arrogant enough to call myself an absolute authority on anything, I have my basics in dialect work for native English speakers down cold. It's a simple slip of the tongue.

[@AprilGabrielle]

It's just his accent.

[@skybluemarshall]

I met Simon Pegg at my work facility when they shot Into Darkness. He was waiting alone, outside the area where they were filming. I was a building escort. We had a nice little chat, mostly about our facility, filming on location and his film crew. He was a super nice guy and he just seemed so humble and grateful for his career. I mentioned all of the work and activity that went on all night, as the crew transformed our facility into parts of a spaceship. Simon, said something like. "Yeah, the carpenters, electricians, the make-up and set artists, the stunt crew, the catering people... everyone else works so hard. I have the easiest job in the world. I just sit here on this throne (a folding actor's chair) until they call me. Then, I walk out, stand where they tell me to stand, say the same line 50 times, go to the catering truck, eat some amazing food and I'm done for the day and I get to sleep in a posh hotel room. These people will put in 16-18 hours, stay up all night, working and setting up for the next scene and they'll still be here when we shoot it tomorrow. They do all of the real work". He praised our amazing facility and he talked about how nice it was to be at an actual high tech facility, instead of pretending to be someplace, while standing in front of a boring green screen. I can't imagine Simon Pegg ever saying how miserable he was, making a movie. He seemed like he really appreciated what he does for a living and how much harder everyone else was working and how actors on big movies are treated like Kings. What a good dude. I'm almost afraid to ever talk to another actor, because it would probably be a big let down.

[@enginerdy]

That being said, if you've ever overcommitted to a Halloween costume, I can imagine how being trapped in sweltering costume, makeup, with uncomfortable contacts (that tend to feel like someone stabbing you in the eyes) would be enough to break a person.

[@garycarter01]

Sky Marshall : Perhaps he is a nice guy but he turned Scotty into a moron with a pet Oyster.

[@velveetaslingshot]

To be fair, Simon Pegg has the success to be in a great mood. Most actors, including myself, are on set for 14 hours a day and getting paid in sandwiches.

[@greghannibal]

Glad someone does. I've seen too many actors complain about how hard they have it. It's like, you have the easiest job in the world and you make millions doing it. I'm sure it's stressful at times but it's not like they're doing backbreaking labor

[@em1osmurf]

yep. as a ship electrician, i've worked with hollywood gaffers (Super Carrier. google that horror show. loretta lynn. bob hope. president reagan.). backbreaking work on a deadline. it taught me there are some really suck jobs out there (likely why the gaffer gets his own screen credit).

[@calaverx11]

I met Garrett Wang at a convention a few years ago, he's incredible. He was open about how he felt about working on Voyager at the time, but he prefers sharing all of the great stories rather than lingering on the bad stuff. The shit they got away with on set was amazing.

[@kristophertower3476]

so what did they get away with? im all kinds of curious

[@kylewestlake982]

I had the same experience with him at a convention once, too. He talked about how upset he was the Harry was never promoted, but his panel was so entertaining. It felt more like a stand up routine than a panel, lol.

[@hubbsllc]

@Leo Peridot Spiner did some great work. The one time I got to talk to him at a convention, I remarked about one episode I remembered - I don't recall which one, but Data was talking to someone sitting in the brig; I don't remember if it was Lore or some Borg. The point of the scene was that Data realizes that he'd been taken advantage of to some horrible end, and the look that came over Data's face was so memorable. Spiner could only really play data within a very narrow wedge when you think about it but there were times when he could push that envelope and I thought it was commendable what Spiner was able to do.

[@therabbits69]

@Leo Peridot Brent Spiner had already been a pretty known TV star for most of the 80s before Star Trek. He didn't need a breakout role. He was actually pretty much the biggest star on that set at that time.

[@nimrodery]

@@therabbits69 "Brent Spiner biggest star on set at that time" citation needed. Whoopi Goldberg, Patrick Stewart and LeVar Burton were all better known, not to mention John de Lancie.

[@MrTheGadfly]

A lot of weird emPHAsis on the wrong SylAHbles

[@jeffstone2136]

LehNARD NiMOY

[@MultiRabe]

Dave Gadfly Yeah, I noticed that too 😂

[@ens0246]

@@jeffstone2136 Has this guy ever been outside?

[@killwalker]

@@jeffstone2136 every time too. So distracting..

[@PetersonZF]

Love The Sketch Show reference, there. :)

[@magicsinglez]

Star Trek would be different without Leonard Nimoy? Star Trek wouldn’t exist with Leonard Nimoy.

[@eurogryphon]

Ever since I first saw Voyager in the 90s I've felt Harry Kim got screwed more than any other character I've seen in the franchise. Steve Shives even did a video on it a year or two ago.

[@danthechevymanc6b475]

This video is bs. He's talking about complaints these actors had since being an actor on these shows were quite challenging. However, most of them appreciated their roles and were more than happy to reprise their roles when asked. This guy is taking stuff out of context and I wouldn't be surprised if he was making some of it up.

[@tomjoad1363]

In most of the case, it was relationship between cast members that were confictual. See Jeri Ryan was more than happy to be back in Picard without having Mulgrew on her back.

[@skarpethinn]

@@tomjoad1363 - also the whole conflict thing was blown out of proportion - both actors have said so, may times since.

[@Dancestar1981]

Tom Joad Ryan slept her way into Voyager and it all became about her it was a major issue. The Borg and the eye candy were overdone and many people dislike it

[@mattrobson3603]

@@Dancestar1981 Yeah, that's why Seven's character arc and rapport with the Doctor is pretty universally regarded as one of the best parts of Voyager.

[@Crazyuncle1]

You’re spot on there friend. Videos like this are a dime a dozen.

[@Fenris77]

7:40 W H A T ? ? ? I had no idea Siddig was his nephew of all people!?!

[@dragonchr15]

His mom's side

[@SocialSpit]

Actually it's Robert Beltran's "wooden" season seven performances that made me like the character a lot more, and they did give him major roles in at least three episodes that season including workforce parts one and two, and then the episode where he is dating seven in holo. Oh yes and the episode when he is trapped with seven in the native American style alien habitat, his performance was very strong in that. And then the episode where voyager is split up across all these different time zones, and he is the only one who can go back-and-forth between the different times. That was excellent.

[@OohzyJohnDow]

@S Cramer That wasnt even remotely an issue back then like it is now. His character was just underused by the writers. He wasnt my favorite though and i always loved the strong female cast in this series WITHOUT feeling forced down your throat. These days, we live in a very different world and it becomes harder and harder to find any entertainment that isnt forcing agendas.

[@MyBrainGlows]

@S Cramer Wow, you kind of guys are pretty boring

[@SocialSpit]

OohzyJohnDow actually it wasn’t happening back then and it isn’t happening now. Apparently you never really watched Star Trek because every episode was about some social issue just like all of the other Star Trek shows. This sounds like so many fake reviews on IMDb that should have stayed over on Reddit or 4/8chan

[@SocialSpit]

Mark Grant Wow that makes a lot of grammatical sense, English not really your first language?

[@workstrength]

@S Cramer Give me a break... go to your Trump rally.

[@Intrepid175a]

You mentioned Nimoy's first book, "I am Not Spock." Then later you mention the first Star Trek movies and how Mr. Nimoy refused to return unless they killed off Spock. I think in Nimoy's second book, "I Am Spock," you'll find that Mr. Nimoy says that he did not come up with the idea of killing off Spock. That was something the studio approached him with as a possible idea because they knew he wasn't thrilled with continuing the character. In "I Am Spock," Mr. Nimoy also points out that much of his resistance to playing the character of Spock didn't have as much to do with the character as it did with his overall relationship with the studio. One of the problems he had with the studio was mentioned in this video, that being the fact that they had been using his likeness without his permission and without compensation for quite a few years. At the time, Nimoy had a lawsuit going concerning these issues and that needed to be resolved before he would be willing to enter into another contract with them. Fortunately, they did settle the lawsuit and the rest is history.

[@dsmith6946]

Leonard Nimoy has even publicly stated that he did not ask to be killed off. It is a myth that keeps circulating when in fact it's false. Leonard has also stated he never hated Star Trek, and asked to direct Star Trek III. He also stated that nowhere in his contract for Star Trek II is there a stipulation that he be killed. The Center Seat: 55 Years of Star Trek details all of this about Leonard. His issue was, the same as most, being typecast with the role and having difficulty doing other projects, hence the book I Am Not Spock.

[@scotthullinger4684]

@@dsmith6946 - Sensible, true, without the spin and lies -

[@typeviic1]

All the characters felt the way Denise Crosby did. They all had doubts about it lasting. She was just the only one who bailed.

[@oobaka1967]

From the way the narrator mispronounces most of the names, it's easy to tell they are not a fan of Star Trek.

[@johnp139]

Yeah, what the hell is “zed”?

[@wolfchacer0139]

@@johnp139 It's a stupid way Europeans and Canadians refer to the letter Z. I remember Stargate Atlantis frustrating the Hell out of me by them callling it a ZedPM rather than a Zero Point Module or ZPM, they always need that Zed and it sounds more stupid every time I hear it lol

[@hirokidabar4655]

@@wolfchacer0139 ZedPM sounds way better than ZeePM, lmao

[@jameswatsonatheistgamer]

@@wolfchacer0139 As opposed to the dumbing down of the English language. Dumb seppo.

[@FulcanMal]

He has an English accent guys...the English accent drops Rs in many situations.

[@CaseAgainstFaith1]

Nimoy specifically said that the meaning of the title I Am Not Spock was not intended to imply distaste for Trek or Spock but simply meant that he as a person is very different than his character.

[@pepperVenge]

Brent Spiner: I'm too old to play Data today. CBS: $$$$$$$ Brent Spiner: Lets Do This!!!

[@TheHobbyist_76]

But I would do it too...especially since the ID series didn't make it and BBT went off the air.

[@oneblankspace4919]

Let us do this?

[@pepperVenge]

@@TheHobbyist_76 Spiner still has a Decent Net worth. I don't think he's Hurting for money,

[@SS-zg5dv]

Beats selling Trek merchandise out of the back of his car.

[@SirManfly]

@@pepperVenge but the money he gets to appear on Pickard help pad the retirement fund, no? ;^D

[@jasoncarpp7742]

I actually loved Wesley Crusher. I didn't care for Wil Wheaton at the time, but I love the character he portrayed.

[@cometcaller2115]

Not true about Leonard Nimoy refusing to appear in the Wrath of Khan unless Spock was killed. He clearly denies this in his book "I am Spock".

[@I-am-EmJay]

He denied that all the time... I heard it direct and in person at his last convention appearance shortly before he passed away.

[@PeterRichardsandYoureNot]

Len-aard Neemoy. I know have a new level of appreciation for the “whatculture” formula.

[@kurtsloop2462]

I wonder how many burger flippers at Mickey Dees would have been glad to have traded places and salaries with them

[@NightHawke]

Anyone who so mangles the classic Original Star Trek episode title, "Is There In Truth No Beauty?" shouldn't be hosting Star Trek videos. What's your next one, "Battlefield Last Be That Your Let?"

[@pwnmeisterage]

But _Who Mourns For The Corbomite City Minders On The Edge Of Gothos Tribbles_ is a classic episode. From a certain point of view.

[@DragonMama-yt3zs]

They tried to make Diana Muldar's character into a female version of Dr. McCoy. Didn't work.

[@meowcula]

That's accurate, well said. It was just too dry a humour and felt like a let down after the ever warm Dr. Crusher. I need to read up on how they managed to re-hire the latter after they fired her, I didn't know that. UPDATE: Sir Pat called and convinced her. Of course lol.

[@h.borter5367]

Yeah, Jeri Ryan's Seven of Nine was sexy but I personally viewed her as a strong woman.

[@kiribaines1070]

My daughter struggles with understanding social nuisance and has grown up relating to 7, admiring and aping 7 in her own quest to overcome this challenge. Thank you Heidi Borter, I'm glad someone else sees the strength in 7.

[@Nimmo1492]

Diana Muldaur was offered "proper" billing on the opening credits, but she turned it down.

[@johnbockelie3899]

I once read that the.actress who wore the.M113 salt vampire costume told all her friends ahead of time that she will.be appearing in that episode of.Stat Trek.( we watched , where. Were you?)

[@tedwojtasik8781]

She had some great tits!!! Hubba Hubba!!!

[@nunyabisnass1141]

I liked her character, but it seemed like she was intentionally written to be cold and alienated.

[@JefferyAClark]

nunya bisnass that is my complaint about her too. Pulaski wasn’t friendly at all, and her whole bias against Data wasn’t welcomed by anyone really. Never wanted to use the transporter... I just really don’t know what they were thinking of doing with the character.

[@derpimusmaximus8815]

@@JefferyAClark The problem was they were trying to recreate the Bones/Spock vibe, which really doesn't work with Data, because one of the core aspects of his character is an almost childlike quality which made Pulaski come across as a bully, whereas Spock was always able to give as good as he got.

[@laughtoohard9655]

I'm most surprised by Leonard Nimoy being on this list. He was a staple of the show. Star Trek would never have been what it became without Spock. I thought bringing in Seven as a replacement for Kess was brilliant. She was a great character.

[@elenarossi8398]

the funny thing is. Leonard Nimoy only agreed to be in the second film if Spok was writen out. But h likes the second movie so much that he wanted to come back XD

[@laughtoohard9655]

@@elenarossi8398 Those early movies really sucked. They've rebuilt the movies with new people. Veger? How stupid was that?

[@elenarossi8398]

@@laughtoohard9655 i totaly agree in the vger thing. But the wrath of Khan is by most considered to be the best star Trek movie

[@laughtoohard9655]

@@elenarossi8398 I like the more modern movies with Chris Pine. His Jim Kirk is great, and the guy who plays Spock has it down minus the eyebrow raise. I just love SciFi. It's fun.

[@elenarossi8398]

@@laughtoohard9655 I Like the new movles as well. The only Two Films with the TOS cast i Like is Number four (funny) and six (becauce it was the send of the series never got)

[@johnmorgan4368]

Coincidentally, I hated Denise Crosby being on Star Trek also.

[@cartwright8920]

How come?

[@Sindraug25]

@@cartwright8920 For the same reason she hated it. Her character was just kind of... there. This was, of course, the fault of the writers and not Crosby.

[@erictaylor5462]

I thought McDowell was brilliant in Star Trek.

[@laurentbourdon5053]

I thought Tom Hardy despised his role as Shinzon in Nemesis.

[@threefishing]

Denise Crosby was the one reason more than anything else i didn't like the first season and i thought it was great when they killed her off. i was really irritated every time they brought her character back in one form or another. I simply just did not like her, she was a spoiler.

[@colinp2238]

Yes, she hated it that much she kept coming back.

[@jonlanier_]

Her career flatlined as well... she's really become just another actress... nothing special about her to be so upset for having a role of any kind. mediocre talent.

[@keithj.6266]

I didn't particularly care for the first season of TNG because I felt a lot of the episodes were nothing more than rehashed episodes from TOS. I think TNG really took off as it's own show at the start of season 3 and it just got better from there. But that's just me. Other viewers opinions may vary. :)

[@Cool70sfreak]

The thing about Diana Muldaur in TNG always being billed as a special guest star is that she wanted that billing, to be a "special guest star" despite basically being part of the main cast for the season. She got more money for it, and that billing was more noticeable, seeing as it always ran after the credits and lingered on screen for several seconds as opposed to being part of the opening credits.

[@batheandrelaxinmyshit6344]

I am sitting on the toilet thinking of you

[@Bolt_theG35]

This dude just said Lenaaard. Get off KZbin now dude! You’ve lost your KZbin card!

[@charlesajones77]

I always get the impression that Malcolm McDowell hates every role he's in. As if after A Clockwork Orange, everything else is beneath him.

[@chrisbailey9853]

He's getting like Robert DeNiro and many other aging actors....he'd take a role in a reboot of the "Porky's" franchise if they offered it to him. He seems to crave the attention while bemoaning the roles he takes. I think he's a fantastic actor but I hate the whining in the trades.

[@invidofinp1828]

I think when he played Admiral Towlyn he took the character as his everyday persona.

[@BodyMusicification]

Malcolm McDowell, Simon Cowell and Gordon Ramsey have all somehow blended into the same person in my mind.

[@commerce-usa]

Could be a RADA thing. 🙄

[@kevindondrea144]

I loved the Voyager ending. It was one of my favorite series.

[@titusmccarthy]

Horrible ending. Average show at best.

[@Neanderthal75]

People who think that was bad, must have not seen the Enterprise's final episode.

[@docHOLLAday53]

I didn’t miss Tasha Yar one bit.

[@MarsFKA]

I saw only one episode of TNG with her in it and, to me, she looked like a wound-up spring, ready to go off at the clank of a falling molecule. Hardly the kind of temperament suitable for a starship security chief.

[@pwnmeisterage]

Worf handled all the Crosby/Yarr functions on stage, on script, and on ship well enough. Well, except he never slept with Data. But he does growl and bark like a good guard dog.

[@docHOLLAday53]

P Which is more than Tasha ever did. She was a pretty useless character. Now playing Ceela? That was pretty decent. Worf was and is 100x more interesting.

[@benjimain6]

Yea, she was annoying and played very ignorant and overly emotional at times for a security officer.

[@a.hollins8691]

I missed dat ass.

[@Emanon...]

Kes is one of the most boring recurring characters in ST Edit: Pulaski and Crusher are very boring too... Compare them to Bashir or the EMH which are among my fav characters.

[@Custerd1]

Ugh. I turn off any episode in which she appears. Whether it was the writing or the acting, I cannot stand her.

[@TheSubwaysurfer]

sorry gotta disagree THE most boring is Dr Beverly Krusher. She's uninteresting to watch uninspiring and when she speaks its like being given a sedative

[@stephenwelch8168]

@@Custerd1 As the saying goes there is no such thing as a bad character just bad writing.

[@tedwojtasik8781]

Yeah but she had a great ASS!!! I could have lived in that perfect ass.

[@Emanon...]

@Nick Meade yeah. That's the only episode she was cool. But she played another person in that episode... I have nothing against the actor, she was just dealt a shitty character to play.

[@Bazzawombat]

I remember Star Trek as an alternative to Lost in Space,in the 60's, was 100* more superior to lost in space, and, Nothing will ever replace the original star trek crew and episodes, I watched them as a kid in the 60's, the old mechanical clock ticking down to "disaster" I still love todays episodes, but, Nothing will replace Spock, Kirk, McCoy, "Scotty" (beam me up) a household word today.

[@nevaehlumiere8019]

Baz... there are 10 episodes of Star Trek continues and 11 episodes of Star Trek voyages phase 2. I recommend phase 2 first because Captain Kirk is very good but his day job was being Elvis. So in the first episode he has a black Elvis hairdo. Hey, it's how he paid for the fan based shows. Secondly watch Star Trek continues because THAT Captain Kirk is phenomenal. He actually studied William Shatner's body movements and has them down pat! The writing on both of these fan based series is excellent and it is like watching a continuation of The original Star Trek in both the characters as well as the flavor of the show.

[@MichaelTheLibertarian]

I hate to seem like a Trekkie, but: "Is There In Truth No Beauty"; NOT "In Truth Is There No Beauty"

[@rogercraven2667]

Why would you hate to seem like a trekkie? WWNN.

[@kiribaines1070]

Are you not a fan of Star Trek? If not, why did you watch and if so, why would you "hate to seem like a trekkie"?

[@joermnyc]

I believe Wil Wheaton is friends with Rod Roddenberry. As for “someone has to be Ensign” they could have promoted him, and made 7 join starfleet as... and Ensign.

[@bobsamurai]

I’m surprised to see Brent on this list because I felt like he exhibited the greatest range as an actor, even greater than Patrick. The struggles with his search for humanity, the serious notes when he would take command of the enterprise or the other federation vessel, the countless humorous notes, and the blank total emotionless parts when he had taken over the enterprise when he was corrupted by Lore. It’s a shame that his career didn’t take off outside of Star Trek

[@mjkay8660]

i love his singing!!!

[@forrestpugh7575]

He's done a bunch of stuff outside of Star Trek, but most of it will be overlooked comparred to his 'Data' character work.

[@jeffjaeger739]

this video gave me an idea. you might do a video about the different actors who played multiple roles throughout the franchise.

[@eriveltomartinsbarrosjunio9022]

Majel Barrett. She even played different characters in TOS.

[@willdwyer6782]

My favorite Brent spiner role outside of the Star Trek franchise is the character of Bob Wheeler, which was a recurring role in 7 episodes, spanning two seasons of Night Court.

[@Branes51]

I liked him as the freaking scientist in Independence Day.

[@cyberfux]

Team Wheeler!

[@TheForeverRanger]

@@Branes51 That was Soong gone batty.

[@BodyMusicification]

I liked him in Frasier.

[@belle.m]

Dude, where’s my Car?!

[@sitizenkanemusic]

In Robert Beltran's defense, the "Native American" advisor of Voyager was a charlatan. He didn't know what he was talking about and gave sham advice. That contributed to the weak character of Chakotay from the beginning. The Native American advisor was a man with the pseudonym Jamake Highwater, but his real name was Jackie Marks- a Hollywood-born Jewish guy who somehow became Native American advisors to many shows in the 80s. With his Hollywood connections, his book about Native American life was adapted into a PBS documentary.

[@terrifictomm]

Jeri Ryan saved Start Trek: Voyager. If it weren't for her character the show, like "Enterprise", would not have lasted more than five seasons. Robert Beltran decided to deliver a wooden performance in season seven? So he knows the difference? The doctor and Tom Paris were the only two characters, besides Seven, who had actual character archs. Kate Mulgrew was tolerable at first as a token female captain. But she grew more and more insufferable with each passing season. Seven was the only character who ever challenged her human supremacist attitudes. In fact, Seven's questioning of the Federation's insufferable (maybe I need a thesaurus), arrogant, unbearable, insupportable, and OPPRESSIVE self-righteous arrogance was a gasping breath of fresh air for a dying franchise. Hearing that she is featured in "Picard" has given me the ONLY reason yet to watch that show after enduring the first episode. How long will I have to suffer before she's makes her appearance? Yes, Jeri Ryan was, is, gorgeous. But her character NEVER even notices it. It's doesn't play any part in her character's personality or performance. I also noticed that none of the cast ever accused Ryan of unleashing her sex appeal or using it to get her way. Have you noticed that? Yet if she had there would have been nothing they could have done to stop her. She's always struck me as simply a very decent person. I also liked her in that short-lived series with James Wood.

[@MrTheGadfly]

There's a lot of talk from Trekkies about how DS9 was the most dysfunctional.. .notice not a single DS9 action on that list?

[@lolm2corybaxter326]

I don't think it was dysfunctional, just not as close as the TNG cast. It was more of a professional environment compared to the joking that went on on the TNG set. I can't think of any on-set feuds I've read about other than Terry Farrell and Rick Berman.

[@scottmantooth8785]

*DS9 was in many respects far more believable and enjoyable given the aspects of their setting and narrative they had presented*

[@NCC1371]

Dave Gadfly I never really enjoyed DS9 just never liked many of the characters at all. To me they were boring like the show.

[@garyelliott3023]

@@NCC1371 best series in the franchise, as soon as it became the "Love that Worf !" Show.

[@MrTheGadfly]

@@NCC1371 It was a bit hit and miss in the first 2 seasons but it got great with a lot of character depth.

[@christopherhibbert3754]

"Shut up, Wesley!!"

[@DavidLee-df888]

I get it. MAYBE the script was written by someone other than the narrator, but a channel about Star Trek should at least at least be narrated by someone who has actually watched it...

[@alexanderjones9572]

Denise Crosby hated it so much she came back later as an alternate Tasha, then came back several more times as Sela. Umm...?

[@michaelbayer5094]

I started TNG somewhere in Season 3, only seeing the first 2 seasons later. Honestly, those first 2 sucked. I can't blame Crosby for wanting out. By the time she returned (I think she was still under contract) TNG was much better. Rick Berman improved on Roddenberry's idea, and the Worf-Klingon storyline gave the show desperately needed continuity. I also think Worf saved DS9.

[@Galiant2010]

@@michaelbayer5094 Also, being a recurring character leaves the actor/actress with more freedoms. Not having to deal with the issues on set on a daily basis.

[@troodon1096]

A rat can desert what they think is a sinking ship, then ask to be let back on when they realize it's not actually going to sink, apparently.

[@bsperoz]

I remember seeing Spiner at a convention, asking him his least favorite part, and him going on a 15 minute rant about how much Spot the cat HATED Brent! Data loved spot. But Brent DESPISED him and I rmember him claiming the worst episode was "Genesis", where Spot played a keys role in the episode.

[@commerce-usa]

insightful story, thank you for sharing it. Animals on a set are unpredictable and can be scene stealers. Easy to understand why many actors would want to avoid such situations.

[@scottyrobot]

wow, people threatened to kill malcolm mcdowell because of what the writers made his character do? And they say fans are toxic nowadays!

[@teto85]

My grandmother confronted a soap opera actor in a grocery store and yelled and screamed at him and even slapped him in the face for what his character was doing on the show.

[@catjudo1]

I remember an interview with the cast of Generations and while everyone else's bit was upbeat and optimistic, Malcolm McDowell glowered at the camera, saying he hated the fans for writing death threats. He's an actor, he said, and these people are a bunch of idiots if they couldn't tell reality from fiction. He's right too. Best interview monologue I've ever seen.

[@avagd6293]

As one of the fans that watched Star Trek from the first airings in the late sixties, I consider the Trek series to be the best science fiction that has ever been produced and reruns will be shown as long as television exists.

[@janboll7174]

I agree. BUT - some of the view screens could have been done better (like great artwork behind glass) rather than be able to see the paper picture not being completely flat! And - the intro where the ship goes thru a star field - if it had really gone between stars, you couldn't have seen the ship as the stars on the viewer's side would have been too big to see the ship! Hey - in Enterprise, there was a mention of needing to notify the designers (or whomever) that seat-belts are needed! Well - all these years later and none of these shows (except Picard, I believe) have any type of restraint - guess they think being tossed out of your seat is cool!

[@I-am-EmJay]

it was the 60s - TVs were small, many people watched in black and white, and they had no budget for special effects. Heck.. in the 60s many cars didn't have seatbelts yet, and above all ... ITS A TV SHOW! :P (which I love BTW) and none of what you mention has anything to do with the quality of a show and its cultural impact.

[@kjamison5951]

I understood Garrett Wang’s name was pronounced as ‘Garrett Wong’.

these narrators have no idea how to pronounce names....

[@WmTRiker]

It is.

[@Fluffykeith]

It's funny that Beltran thought that the introduction of 7 of 9 was a move away from "strong storytelling", when the introduction of her character led to the quality of the show increasing overall. As soon as the writers realised they had some great character dynamics to work with. For me Voyager really kicked into gear with 7.

[@Grenaden86]

Same here. Jeri Ryan is obviously hot but her character development on voyager is one of the best story arcs of the franchise.

[@MechaShadowV2]

at first, yes, after a while, eh not really

[@CrazyHorseTheSiouxW4rrior]

well voyager didn't really kick into gear storywise in the later seasons especially the finale episode which Beltran didn't bother giving his best performance because the finale episode was garbage and I don't blame Robert Beltran for not giving his best performance because the show runners didn't deserve it from Beltran

[@Fluffykeith]

@@CrazyHorseTheSiouxW4rrior Beltran didn’t bother his arse because he was in a huff that he wasn’t getting all the special airtime. The writers had worked out that his character wasn’t as interesting to write for and he was mad about it. Also problematic was that the “Native American Consultant” they got to help flesh out the characters culture and beliefs turned out to be a complete fraud... 7 of 9 revitalised the show and character dynamics, because the interesting Starfleet/Maquis stuff has been wasted and allowed to pretty much just fizzle out. Some of the best scenes in the show are her interactions with Janeway.

[@TiberiusWallace]

God I hate Wil Wheaton.

[@Stilgarsan]

"Well, someone has to be ensign" Shit like this would not have happened with Ronald D. Moore handling Voyager.

[@JonathonV]

If I recall correctly, there are a few errors here. As I understand things: (1) Diana Muldaur asked to be credited as a “special appearance”. (2) (EDIT: Three years ago I wrote some info here about Kim and Kes and their actors, Garrett Wang and Jennifer Lien, that ultimately turned out to be untrue rumours. Check my comment below for an correction.) (3) Speaking of Wang, he was actually involved in quite a bit of Star Trek fan fiction after Voyager, so I don’t think it was Star Trek that he hated as much as his character specifically. (4) Chief among Brent Spiner’s concerns was-like many actors-the makeup, which was extreme in order to subtract thirty years from his face.

[@johnwhitehouse4546]

For 'Trek Fans' they don't seem to know they're subject very well, or have bothered to research it.

[@CardboardSliver]

Crosby still talks about Trek, and is even happy for Sir Pat on Twitter.

[@animeangel1983]

@@CardboardSliver I met her and she was pretty happy to be a part of the Star Trek universe. Amazing what 30 years of reflection can do for you huh?

[@komodosp]

Wang is now presenting a podcast where he & Robert Duncan McNeill go through every episode of voyager so there's plenty of opportunity to find out his feelings on it. Also I think he won some kind of "sexiest man ever" award that year so they couldn't fire him and instead fired Lien.

[@JonathonV]

I need to write some corrections here, because I’ve learned some new things about Voyager from listening to Robert and Garrett’s podcast over the last few years. Garrett Wang wasn’t going to get fired. Apparently he was late on set all the time, which did lead to some tension between him and the producers, but they talked about it and he got better, so by the time Season 3 was over, he was in no danger of getting fired. He did express his displeasure at the wooden acting he and others gave in the first season or two, but according to him, that was because the producers would tell the actors to reshoot if they didn’t act seriously enough. They wanted the aliens like Neelix and Torres to stand out as “alien”, so they asked the human actors to dial it back a bit. Series co-creator Jeri Taylor said in an interview that Jennifer Lien was really struggling with her mental health while she was filming Voyager, but she wouldn’t talk about it or let anyone help. There hasn’t been much official conversation on the subject besides this, so it’s difficult to corroborate, but it makes sense given Lien’s arrests and erratic behaviour after leaving the show. On another note, the misspellings and mispronunciations in this video are so cringy. 😂

[@mikeaudette2823]

I wonder if TNG ever considered bringing Muldaur back for the episode Ship In A Bottle. A "fictionalized" version of Pulaski as the love of Moriarty's life would've been a great twist instead of the creation of the role of the Countess (played by Stephanie Beechum).

[@chrisbailey9853]

I never liked the character of Dr. Pulaski. I had become used to her character on L.A. Law, Rosalind Shays. They should have promoted Patti Yasutake but it would have been harder to get rid of her once Gates McFadden came back. I guess if the same situation happened today, they'd just call on the E.M.H. to fill in.

[@pedrovargas2181]

No, thanks. Season 2 was already annoying enough with that Pulaski to bring Muldaur back ever again.

[@cagrace32]

Dude, NOT 60 years. Star Trek premiered on my birthday in 1966 and I am not 60 yet.

[@gheilers]

"The Cage" was produced in 1964, and probably in pre-production in 1963...so, yeah...close to sixty years.

[@nevaehlumiere8019]

Nuh-uhhhh!!!! 56 years!!!!

[@OldUKAds]

I'm so glad we have a way to count time. Your birthday

[@greaterbaatezu]

So I understand he plays Negan on Walking Dead you failed to mention the role where I know him best. John Winchester.

[@tylongkicks8821]

Exactly

[@ganados0]

When Grace Lee Whitney wrote her memoirs, fans caught on quick who the 'producer' (there 'the executive') was. It was none other then Gene Roddenberry. Makes you wonder if the Zefram Cochran subplot of Star Trek First Contact about admiring the vision not the man is a commentary on that. When Mark Sheppard was on the Voyager set he said it was a strange experience because people just weren't talking to each other like they should, Kate Mulgrew for example deplored what Jeri Ryan represented feeling it at odds with what Janeway and Torres represented and she called Beltran a lazy actor.

[@JS-wp4gs]

So..... you're saying roddenberry really created the franchise with the goal of getting rich so he could retire to an island filled with naked women like cochrane? .....that actually sounds pretty plausible

[@stephenrutledge721]

While I really enjoyed Kate Mulgrew in her performance as Katherine Janeway, I had to have fun out of her at a Star Trek Convention, many years ago. After thanking her for her performance in that series, I left her with "Thank you Mrs. Columbo"! She very nearly fell out of her chair. Everybody starts somewhere.

[@keithj.6266]

@@stephenrutledge721 OMG I remember that show! Not everyone remembers that was her show nor that she was the lead actress. IMDB says two seasons but the show started in February 1979 with only 5 episodes (I presume it was "testing the waters" as a mid-season replacement for another show that got the axe) and when the "second" season started seven months later (October 1979) they only aired 13 additional episodes with the last episode airing in March 1980. There was also a 3 month gap between the next to last and last episode so I'm guessing (sadly) the ratings numbers just weren't there. Finally she wasn't quite 24 at the time she started this show. I guess Lt. Columbo liked 'em young!! LOL

[@stephenrutledge721]

@@keithj.6266 NBC started Columbia as part of a start off for 4 new shoes, actually. Each week was a different show in that same time slot. 1st week, Columbo. 2nd week, McMillan and wife (Rock Hudson, Susan St. James.) 3rd week, Night gallery (Rod Sterling) 4th week, McCloud (Dennis Weaver) All those shoes became their own series, after that first test year, for all 4 of those shoes.....I'm too old to remember all that!!

[@keithj.6266]

@@stephenrutledge721 Oh my gosh I remember that! I used to watch those "NBC Mystery Movies" as they were called. There were actually two versions broadcast concurrently on Sunday and Wednesday nights between 1971 and 1977. The one you are referencing is the Sunday Night Mystery Movie lineup that had Columbo, McMillan & Wife, McCloud and Hec Ramsey. Night Gallery was not one of them as it was aired on CBS between 1969 and 1973 and each original run episode was only an hour long. Thanks for the trip down memory lane. :)

[@pinchopaxtonsgreatestminds9591]

Am I the only person that liked Kes?

[@zaatas]

She was better than Neelix. But not better than Tuvix. RIP Tuvix, died screaming and kicking.

[@THGL01]

Yes

[@troystutsman1400]

Thought she was cute...! They could have done a lot with her character only living seven years and with her mental abilities...

[@Dancestar1981]

Troy Stutsman she was underrated

[@Tom-fh6bu]

Hearing actors lament about roles that made them famous (as well as steadily employed) is a drag. If it hadn't been for Star Trek who would have ever heard of Garrett Wang or Robert Beltran? I've watched all five series and each actor had many turns in the spotlight. Here's an idea: Just say thank you.

[@CosmicCleric]

It sucks being on a job where you are not allowed to be useful, and/or grow career wise.

[@Tom-fh6bu]

So... what were they doing prior? What have they been doing since? Sorry, I don't agree. And as for Malcom Macdowell had I been a producer one no is all I would have needed. Too many good actors looking for work. That having been said not all complaints are equal. Diana Muldaur was outstanding in the OS. Her situation on TNG was unfortunate. Ditto with Jeri Ryan. Shame on Kate Mulgrew who should have taken her angst out on the decision makers and not on the actress

[@CosmicCleric]

@@Tom-fh6bu I meant just while on a job, not what happened before, or what happens after. Just while on the job in real time. Edit: And any job, not just acting. Edit 2: Wow, you redid the comment I replied to.

[@Tom-fh6bu]

What happened on the job was they had great roles and became famous and will forever have a place in Trek lore, no small honor. But you are entitled to an opinion, of course

[@CosmicCleric]

@@Tom-fh6bu Just saying, that's not enough, if you are not happy and/or respected, regardless of the career. And with their career, they can't just really quit and find a better job, like they can with most careers. I'm not saying they should not be greatful, just that it takes more than just being greatful for the opportunity, to be happy on a job. That's 'casting couch' logic, if they just take crap while on a job. But you are entitled to an opinion, of course.

[@kjackers5710]

Tasha was an infinitely better character than Troy ever was who was THE worst character in Star Trek history in my humble opinion

[@AwoudeX]

out of curiosity, what is your issue with the character Troy? If we stick with main characters from the same show, i'd say Wesley was infinitely worse than Troy, but that's just my opinion. How they write him as smart, but does stupid stuff all the time, it doesn't make any sense and makes the character unbelievable.

[@kjackers5710]

@@AwoudeX Wesley was a minor character and left the show. I just found her phycobabble too much to take. As one who worked in computers, I preferred the logic of Data

[@Thraxxuss]

7:53 - Death threats over what his character did to Kirk? This is how you tell that somebody has no life.

[@briang768]

Not including Teri Garr is an oversight. Star Trek is the one subject she refuses to discuss.

[@GeneralBulldog54]

What was the issue between Trek and her?

[@tom4296]

From Starlog Magazine Apparently, Garr feared (correctly) that Starlog wanted to talk Trek and had to be persuaded to chat so as to promote her new flick. Warren sat down with her on the balcony of her publicist’s office for an in-person session and from there, things went sour. "I have nothing to say about it," Garr declared of "Assignment: Earth" in Starlog #173. "I did that years ago and I mostly deny I ever did it." Turns out she was glad the Gary Seven show didn’t go to series. "Thank God," Garr told Warren. "Otherwise, all I would get would be Star Trek questions for the rest of my natural life-and probably my unnatural life. You ever see those people who are Star Trek fans? The same people who go to swap meets." Well, there’s a quote that’s bound to not win friends and influence people-and that was my very thought as I initially edited Warren’s manuscript more than two decades ago (he had warned me the Garr conversation was akin to a bad date). I was flabbergasted that an actress I liked so much was so, well, amazingly hostile and negative about almost everything. This is why the Garr piece is one interview in a 30-year career that’s etched forever into my memory. Parts of it, verbatim. Warren changed tack and tried to steer Garr to somewhat safer harbors, her classic science fiction films Close Encounters and Young Frankenstein. "I don’t regard them as science fiction," Garr said. "I just consider them good movies." Oops! Did she just insult the rest of our readership?

[@SocialSpit]

Brian G that's too bad because she was very good in that episode. A lot of these actors, you wouldn't know that they hated doing it. The guy who played the reptilian Xindi leader, he was in several other Star Trek franchises too. Scott McDonald? He was the perfect guy for that role, and they were always sticking him in make up and he probably hated that. But that's what made it so good

[@SocialSpit]

Tom 42 that sounds pretty much how she is, I've seen her on late-night talk shows and other things and that's how her personality is, totally acerbic. You know how the late night talk hosts would always go for the throat of their guests and try to make them look bad, David letterman tried to do that to her, and it totally failed, she turned it around and made him look bad- and because of that, he would have her back repeatedly, and she would always do the same thing every time. Totally antagonistic

[@briang768]

@@GeneralBulldog54 My understanding was that Roddenberry kept insisting that her skirt was to be made shorter. (From Roddenberry's unauthorized biography)

[@bb1111116]

I saw Denise Crosby’s name and I stopped there. Hating being on a few episodes alone should not qualify for this list. After Crosby quit Next Generation, she came back as a Romulan, Sela & was also in Yesterday’s Enterprise. In the Trek fan documentary films Trekies 1&2, Crosby was the host/narrator. Crosby has been to several Star Trek conventions. * This list should only have people who were on Star Trek & then wanted nothing to do with it again.

[@charleswest782]

Also, she has done voice work for both Yar and Sela in Star Trek Online. She definitely does despise Star Trek. Had some frustrations? Sure. Despised it? Definitely not

[@victorm56]

The Wang issue as a viewer was annoying to us too. Ensign Kim should of been a full lieutenant by the time they got back to earth. The captain was negligent in his career development.

[@JediWitness2]

Jeri Ryan may have been brought in for her incredible body and gorgeous looks, but she's also a very good actress and get character growth and development was very well done. Kate Mulgrew might have been jealous of her trying the spotlight away from her but in reality 7 probably saved the show from an early demise which gave everyone 2 to 3 more years of a full time job. I heard that Mulgrew was making $60,000 per Episode for Voyager so that means that Jeri Ryan's appearance added a couple of million extra dollars to Mulgrews bank account. So if anything she should have been grateful for her coming in the show, not giving her such a hard time . But then most actors are really very immature in the first place because they're more concerned with the spotlight and being the center of attention as everyone wants to be the Star of the show when they should all just be grateful to have A FULL TIME JOB and be making some serious money. Once you're a regular character on Star Trek you're pretty much set for life in one way or another as they often bring you back as a guest role, flashbacks, another character and even if they don't, you can always make some money with all the conventions and sometimes merchandising to. They might not make millions per Episode like on Friends or The Big Bang Theory, but most actors would kill to have the steady work and get the exposure to.

[@Diana_Fire]

My favorite cast members of Star Trek: (In no particular order) Patrick Stewart Brent Spiner Robert Picardo Dwight Schultz Michael Dorn John De Lancie Any episode that focused on them was Gold.

[@ragnargisli]

Broccoli!

[@batheandrelaxinmyshit6344]

Poop

[@detectivesnickers6176]

@@ragnargisli Dismissed Mr. Broccoli...I mean...Mr. Barkley

[@thuxter1]

auberjonois; shimmerman; eisenberg; siddig; chief obrien and the bad guys (raz al) gul dukat; brunt FCA ...AMMORE. I LIKE THEM ALL

[@TheHobbyist_76]

Met all but one of those....

[@Gandoff2000]

It sounds like they all wanted to be captain.

[@p.bamygdala2139]

W-hil W-heaton Cool w-hip

[@hoshireed77]

You are eating hair! Sorry couldn't resist.

[@drdarkeny]

More accurate,but less click-baity, would have been "12 Actors Who Had Bad Experiences With STAR TREK" -- most of these people don't seem to hate TREK, just uncomfortable makeup (Morgan, Thompson), clashes with particular producers (McFadden/Muldaur, Beltran, Wheaton to an extent, Wang definitely!) or co-stars (Ryan), or how their popularity meant they got typecast (Nimoy, Spiner).

[@WoodysAR]

I'm pretty sure it's Alice Krige? Not Kreiger,.. She's not a Kreiger Wave! hehe ;) _Although I think i just figured out where they came up with the name for Kreiger waves!!! ;)_

[@WalterDWormack214]

So. In the case of Mr. Garrett Wang; you're saying the producers of Star Trek went from saying *SHUT UP, Wesley!* to *SHUT UP, Harry?*

[@MattHarropActor]

Leonard Nimoy... Len-ard Nim-oi. How u can’t say his name as a Trekkie.... come on now.

[@amberschiwi]

It's the charm of a northern English accent...

[@PC160]

@@amberschiwi len-ARD? Sounds fake posh.

[@Artifactsofmars]

I wonder if some of these dissatisfied actors realized how much pleasure they brought to fans. I missed Wil Wheaton when he left. I did not miss Denise Crosby when she left, as her attitude turned my blood cold.

[@Ahex75]

Yes most in this list was not missed by me. Beltran was boring as hell. Crosby seemed snobby, wanted bigger role and eventually got too much screen time. 7 of 9 was another character in voyager i didn't like.

[@NefariousElasticity]

They had the opportunity to make Wil's character a set of innocent, inexperienced eyes to view a relatively alien world through as a vessel for the audience. Instead, they made him an annoying supergenius brat who became a super senior at Starfleet Academy because he never even once listened to a single word Picard or his own mother ever said to him about honesty or integrity, and completely failed to learn even one thing about life from his time on the Enterprise. He was an obnoxious two-dimensional character. Wil seems like an okay guy with some weird opinions, and I don't dislike him for playing a shit character, but Wesley gets shit on by fans for a reason.

[@Dancestar1981]

Arto Helenius I couldn’t stand 7 Ryan never impressed me I could see she got in via the casting couch and what they were reducing Voyager to and I wasn’t happy I thought it was far better without her

[@cyberfux]

"The naked now" made 14/15 year old me (airing date in germany AFAIR 1990) recognizing that girls are not just "different clothed boys" ;-) Her outfit... *drool*

[@fdj130]

It's just excruciating having to listen to these store bought limey accents. No offence meant.

[@JamesMC04]

None taken 😀 (Some) US accents don’t always make for easy listening either.

[@c0mput3]

9:12 - It's LEN-UHD Nimoy! QoA Department working overtime at TrekCulture