Star Trek: How EVERY Captain Became Captain

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Do you have what it takes to become a Captain? See how this list of famous names did it.
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@TrekCulture
@TrekCulture 3 жыл бұрын
Sulu, Jellico, Decker, Tilly, April, Hernandez, La Forge... part 2?
@mongoslade5248
@mongoslade5248 3 жыл бұрын
B expecting it. Won't call U OUT over Sulu. 4 now.
@thedelta4258
@thedelta4258 3 жыл бұрын
Kim, Nog and a few others from STO
@cobaltitconsultinginc.9600
@cobaltitconsultinginc.9600 3 жыл бұрын
Harry Kim
@Ninjajp247
@Ninjajp247 3 жыл бұрын
Harry Kim in new timeline. Original Harry Kim signed in his commission after losing all hands on voyager in original timeline, while skipping in the flyer with Chakotay. It was during their attempt to navigate the quantum skip tunnel they stole from the Borg. They were flung loose and phased into an ice planet.... Bodily.
@Finians_Mancave
@Finians_Mancave 3 жыл бұрын
Don't forget Capt Ransom of the Equinox (From Voyager series).
@theusernameicoodfind
@theusernameicoodfind 3 жыл бұрын
Sisko is the only one that really got the screen time devoted to becoming a captain.
@ChristmasLore
@ChristmasLore 2 жыл бұрын
And now, Captain M.Burnham and Captain Saru.
@oninoni
@oninoni 2 жыл бұрын
Riker? Kinda TNG Is his way to captain
@seansullivan7928
@seansullivan7928 2 жыл бұрын
Is siko the broad
@stellatedodin656
@stellatedodin656 2 жыл бұрын
Riker did as well. Saw him grow up all through the 1st Officer position up to Captain. And if you're into the extended lit universe, you get to see him rise up to Admiral...
@pmd1973
@pmd1973 3 жыл бұрын
You missed Captain Sulu.... Oh my!
@thebammer5166
@thebammer5166 3 жыл бұрын
You beat me to it.
@upsidedown4155
@upsidedown4155 3 жыл бұрын
There was a little nod to him, 0:09
@haloboy456
@haloboy456 3 жыл бұрын
@@upsidedown4155 nah, I want a highlight lol, maybe one on Decker too, I'm sure there's a book out there.
@upsidedown4155
@upsidedown4155 3 жыл бұрын
@@haloboy456 i get what ya saying, but considering its free its not a bad deal
@mikeschneck9570
@mikeschneck9570 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah they did didn't they
@johnk9707
@johnk9707 3 жыл бұрын
Picard not only smiled when stabbed through the heart...he laughed
@stevenswapp4768
@stevenswapp4768 Күн бұрын
In his own words, he "LOLed"
@jennifermason6649
@jennifermason6649 3 жыл бұрын
You forgot Sulu becoming Captain of Excelsior.
@super_ficial
@super_ficial 3 жыл бұрын
What about Gates ?
@aziizrocks
@aziizrocks 3 жыл бұрын
And H. Kim
@super_ficial
@super_ficial 3 жыл бұрын
@@aziizrocks Very good. This is way Star Wars will always play second fiddle to Star Trek.
@aziizrocks
@aziizrocks 3 жыл бұрын
Especially after the last 3 movies, that's why I don't like discovery and Picard as an another scifi action series.
@kjamison5951
@kjamison5951 3 жыл бұрын
Oh my! How did they miss that one?
@pills-
@pills- 3 жыл бұрын
You could probably make this list entirely with the OG Kirk and how many times he's been reinstated/demoted/promoted to captain :D
@ecliptorcalrissian5014
@ecliptorcalrissian5014 3 жыл бұрын
Throw in the Kelvin Timeline too, just to show that how no matter how history gets screwed with, it's a constant.
@KittyStarlight
@KittyStarlight Жыл бұрын
It would be a very different sort of list if you did that. Because instead of being the list of every captain, it would just be the list of all the promotions, demotions and reinstatements of Captain Kirk. The list goes on and on. ^___^ I suppose there is probably enough for at least a good 10 to 12 minutes (or maybe more minutes) just from that list.
@KittyStarlight
@KittyStarlight Жыл бұрын
The illustrious career of the captain with the most promotions, demotions and reinstatements in Starfleet history. That would indeed make an interesting list.
@hagamapama
@hagamapama Жыл бұрын
Not really. Captain Kirk was promoted to Admiral once, then demoted once. Both for perfectly good reasons.
@Sparky71870
@Sparky71870 10 ай бұрын
@@hagamapama, actually he was promoted to Admiral twice. Quite some time after his first promotion he took a voluntary demotion to command the Enterprise for the V'ger mission. Afterward he was re-instated as an Admiral.
@jameyohanlon2954
@jameyohanlon2954 3 жыл бұрын
Janeway was always the boldest, most decisional, and deadliest person to occupy the center seat. She could negotiate with skill or kick some alien ass with equal aplomb. She gave little quarter all the while staying within Star Fleet Regulations.
@kassistwisted
@kassistwisted 11 ай бұрын
Until Pike, Janeway was the only starship Captain that I would glady follow into a fire. She exuded leadership.
@tdog999100
@tdog999100 7 ай бұрын
Dafaq you talking about? Janeway was unhinged, particularly in the last couple seasons and trampled on the prime directive more than once
@willmoore8708
@willmoore8708 6 ай бұрын
Talk about "projection." Janeway was the best of all the captains. I can't count how many times Kirk ignored the prime directive. Well, I could, but I don't feel like it.@@tdog999100
@ExarchGaming
@ExarchGaming Күн бұрын
i'd say sisko is the most lethal of the captains, he was willing to render a planet uninhabitable in order to fight the maquise and willing participated in the assassination of a romulan politician.
@stevenswapp4768
@stevenswapp4768 Күн бұрын
​@@ExarchGamingSisko, (my favorite) is the one who I would be most worried to have really pissed off at me.
@vmolin2162
@vmolin2162 3 жыл бұрын
Sisko should have started as Captain and been promoted to Commodore. His responsibilities were to big for a mere Commander! Sisko was responsible for preparing Bajor for entry into the Federation, for containing the Maquis threat, for maintaining a fragile peace with the scheming Cardassians, for planning and coordinating the war effort against the Dominion, and more.
@davemiller6055
@davemiller6055 3 жыл бұрын
Commodore isn't a reank, it is the title of a position. A captain commanding a flotilla or group of ships. It's a temporary position for the duration of a mission.
@vmolin2162
@vmolin2162 3 жыл бұрын
@@davemiller6055 Maybe in the U.S. Navy but this is Star Trek. In TOS there were several Commodores commanding starbases and in the episode "Doomsday Machine" a commodore commanded a single ship.
@MDarkraven
@MDarkraven 3 жыл бұрын
Sisko was in command of the Bajorian Sector as well as commanding Deep Space Nine. He would have been a Rear Admiral if not a full Admiral actually. Because of the area of his command. I have always believed the character of short changed in development.
@MDarkraven
@MDarkraven 3 жыл бұрын
@dave miller. Here are examples from TOS. Commodore Stone, Commander of StarBase 10, Commodore Jose Mendez, Commander of StarBase 12, Commodore George Stocker, Commodore Matthew Decker, Commanding Officer of the USS Constellation, Commodore Robert Wesley, Commanding the USS Lexington and a Task Force of 4 Starships (Lexington, Potemkin, Excalibur and Hood) From TNG... Vice Admiral Takamura, Commander of StarBase 173. Admiral Dexter Holt, Commander of Deep Space 3, Vice Admiral William Ross, Commander, Federation Forces Starbase 375. So Dave that is why I said Sisko got short changed.
@williamwalls9745
@williamwalls9745 3 жыл бұрын
@@davemiller6055 Nope. The Starfleet officer rank system is based on the US Navy system where Commodore is a full-fledged military rank between Captain and Rear Admiral, that is assigned only during time of war. (Presumably, Commodore Decker from TOS is a holdover from a period of war. where he was promoted to that rank but had not since ascended to the admiralty.)
@kjamison5951
@kjamison5951 3 жыл бұрын
Captain Hikaru Sulu. To quote the man himself “Are you kidding?” Oh my!
@abbaszaidi8371
@abbaszaidi8371 3 жыл бұрын
“Ha....aaaaa....aaaaaa!”
@SantomPh
@SantomPh 3 жыл бұрын
No one actually told us how Sulu bevame captain in-universe
@Ninjajp247
@Ninjajp247 3 жыл бұрын
Captain of the excelsior
@Ninjajp247
@Ninjajp247 3 жыл бұрын
@@SantomPh he was captain of the excelsior in star trek v chasing Kirk and them after they stole 1701-A to find the God of shaka ree
@GeorgeSaint666
@GeorgeSaint666 3 жыл бұрын
How about Captain Crusher.... uhm I mean Captain Beverly Picard.
@CertifiablyIngame
@CertifiablyIngame 3 жыл бұрын
This is a really cool video idea!
@shuttleman27c
@shuttleman27c 3 жыл бұрын
Cool video idea as in the video is just an idea? Or as in you will make your own?
@coltrinculo703
@coltrinculo703 2 жыл бұрын
Hello there
@seancaptain3043
@seancaptain3043 2 жыл бұрын
Hi, I'm subbed
@JAGtheTrekkieGEMINI1701
@JAGtheTrekkieGEMINI1701 3 жыл бұрын
Riker and Sisko were Commanders for so Long cause they KNEW that IT IS the Most comfortable Rank in Starfleet.. Almost all the Power but only a Fraction of the responsibilities of the Captains Rank xD
@robertagu5533
@robertagu5533 3 жыл бұрын
Siskos promotion when his DS9 series began was long time coming. An personally I think by where he got where he was in the books post TV show he shoulda promoted to Admiral. Had to know during the Dominion War they was thinking about it. I would've if was them, he proved to be one the most experienced and best battle Captains they ever had
@marvelboy74
@marvelboy74 3 жыл бұрын
Sisko was at Lt. Commander though during Wolf 359 and his transfer to Utopia Planitia likely slowed down his development. But he was a single parent at the time and grieving the loss of his wife so being closer to home was probably what he needed. He didn't want to move Jake to Bajor and take command of DS9 though. But obviously that corresponds to his rank of full Commander and then we say his development from there.
@cymaddux3131
@cymaddux3131 3 жыл бұрын
Shit, they are the busiest position on the ship
@Mechani-Kong
@Mechani-Kong 3 жыл бұрын
Straight up, the commander in position is where all the action is
@jasonpye4649
@jasonpye4649 3 жыл бұрын
@@cymaddux3131 yeah along with everything else, they're in charge of Duty rosters
@yetinother
@yetinother 3 жыл бұрын
"EVERY" Captain? you missed SO MANY!
@karidhacker3196
@karidhacker3196 3 жыл бұрын
Captain Kathryn Janeway: Energize! Me: My day is done!
@skippy8696
@skippy8696 2 жыл бұрын
Perhaps, but no-one says 'battle stations!' like captain Sisko.
@ourladyofguadalupebotanica6732
@ourladyofguadalupebotanica6732 3 жыл бұрын
Before Star Trek, Avery Brooks played a character called Hawk on Robert Urich's Spensor for hire, and a short lived spin off called 'A man called Hawk.' That is where the bad ass bald head came from.Hawk had the bald head and goatee which made him look like a tough dude. Brooks grew his hair back specifically for the DS9.
@MicahSps
@MicahSps 3 жыл бұрын
The executives didn't want him to keep the shaved head as they thought he'd look too much like Hawk.
@BrotherDerrick3X
@BrotherDerrick3X 3 жыл бұрын
@@MicahSps by season 4, someone saw the stupidity of that. They finally let Avery Brooks go with his Hawk look.
@chrismurray1084
@chrismurray1084 3 жыл бұрын
@@BrotherDerrick3X plus the next generation was still going so chances are that they would not want two captains with no hair
@KiraBKADestroyerOfWorlds
@KiraBKADestroyerOfWorlds 2 жыл бұрын
@@chrismurray1084 would that be about his bald being better-looking? Because it is.
@chrismurray1084
@chrismurray1084 2 жыл бұрын
@@KiraBKADestroyerOfWorlds It most certainly would be
@hayleygolding4187
@hayleygolding4187 3 жыл бұрын
Can I just say... I love the way Marcus Bronzy presents his episodes of TrekCulture 👍
@randyrogers8568
@randyrogers8568 3 жыл бұрын
I'm an ex US Navy officer and I can tell you right now the easiest way to attain the rank of Captain is ............ join the Army.
@munstrumridcully
@munstrumridcully 3 жыл бұрын
Lmao! So true! Too bad most people won't get it because they don't know that in the US Air Force, Army or Marines, captain is a low rank, going from 2nd Lt., 1st Lt., and then CPT. You swabbies make everything confusing by having CPT. as such a high rank, above commander and just below Rear Admiral (lower half). To hell with Naval tradition--a captain is an 0-3 not an 0-6! 😉
@robertf3479
@robertf3479 3 жыл бұрын
@@munstrumridcully No, you grunts, jarheads and grunts with wings confuse things badly by calling your O-3s 'Captain' when they are nothing of the sort. Captains are obviously highly experienced senior officers actually commanding independent units, usually with more firepower than anything your O-3s could command. 😉
@munstrumridcully
@munstrumridcully 3 жыл бұрын
@@robertf3479 Oh you squids are all alike! What are all those big guns overcompensating for? 😃 The only good naval style "Captains" are Captain Kirk and Captain Picard! Real captains salute majors! 😉
@harcomou8395
@harcomou8395 3 жыл бұрын
You guys are hillarious!😎😂
@harcomou8395
@harcomou8395 3 жыл бұрын
An Army-Captain MIGHT be intimmidated by a CSM (Command Sergeant Major), a Navy-Captain certainly not by a Master Chief Petty Officer. Unless it's not the MCPON when he's a in company of his buddy the CNO ☆☆☆☆
@devildogdragon9171
@devildogdragon9171 3 жыл бұрын
You forgot to mention Captain Sulu who assisted Captain Kirk destroy a new version of the Klingon Warbird that could attack while still cloaked.
@user-pn1fe6sg2w
@user-pn1fe6sg2w 2 жыл бұрын
Sam Beckett became Jonathan Archer; Enterprise was one of the best multi-part episodes of Quantum Leap.
@nbc_uk
@nbc_uk 2 жыл бұрын
Oh boy...
@PrincessToyNerd
@PrincessToyNerd 2 жыл бұрын
Well, so that’s why Sam never came back home…
@julianaylor4351
@julianaylor4351 11 ай бұрын
😁
@edwardtakoch5181
@edwardtakoch5181 3 жыл бұрын
Btw, it wasn't just Kelvin Kirk that beat the Kobayashi Maru by reprogramming the test, Original Kirk did it as well, albeit on his third attempt.
@snate56
@snate56 3 жыл бұрын
And he didn't do it by sleeping with an Orion computer programmer, either.
@groom_of_the_stool
@groom_of_the_stool 2 жыл бұрын
Scotty crashed the Kobiyashi Maru program. I guess that means he beat it.
@carolheaden
@carolheaden 2 жыл бұрын
Who is kelvin kirk
@KiraBKADestroyerOfWorlds
@KiraBKADestroyerOfWorlds 2 жыл бұрын
@@carolheaden Kirk in the alternate (kelvin) timeline, the one in the new movies
@mrcritical6751
@mrcritical6751 Жыл бұрын
Sadly though in The Kelvin Timeline they were far more strict about it and he was punished for it
@stlgraywolf4283
@stlgraywolf4283 3 жыл бұрын
An "autobiography" about Picard explains many of the details of his life during and after the Stargazer years. It's a really good book and I highly recommend it to any fan.
@haroldhenderson2824
@haroldhenderson2824 3 жыл бұрын
To quote Wharf in a DS9 episode - We have lots of Captains, but few ships.
@BlueSideUp77
@BlueSideUp77 3 жыл бұрын
There's more to add for Janeway, with the Janeway Autobiography book. It is a good read. Not her fault 3 crewmen were injured.
@timclarke2661
@timclarke2661 3 жыл бұрын
Captain Sulu: "Do I mean nothing to you?!"
@Figgy20000
@Figgy20000 3 жыл бұрын
Also Captain Suru Also about 20 other captains they missed sadly
@WalterDWormack214
@WalterDWormack214 3 жыл бұрын
*Captain Montgomery Scott,* was still serving as the *Chief Engineer* of the U.S.S. Enterprise, when he received his *promotion to Captain of Engineers.*
@DeppenGamingLP1987
@DeppenGamingLP1987 3 жыл бұрын
His rank is captain and his position ist engineer. so the rank ist not ever the same the position. A position of the captain can be a commander...the rank: commanding officer commander xy or Lt.Cdr
@token1371
@token1371 3 жыл бұрын
Benjamin Sisko had the most difficult senior staff. Call me crazy, but I LOVED Captain Edward Jellico (Ronny Cox) no nonsense direct command style that shook the senior staff out of Picard complacency.
@williamalfonso1373
@williamalfonso1373 3 жыл бұрын
Good! He was a dick to Picard.
@token1371
@token1371 3 жыл бұрын
@@williamalfonso1373 *Picard is good, but he is VERY overrated from using his top talent.* Picard was meeting the officer who could make his dream come true of Bajor's Starfleet admission. Why not ask Data: "Tell me EVERYTHING about Ben Sisko"?
@mystikmind2005
@mystikmind2005 3 жыл бұрын
Jellico was a moron, Ronny Cox did an excellent job of portraying the typical arrogant commander that usually gets everyone killed - But that scenario is nothing new, there are always plenty of 'outside' captains and admirals who turn up from time to time to play the idiots in order to make the main characters look smart. It does beg the question though as to where Starfleet manages to find all these moronic admirals/captains and how did they become an admiral/captain in the first place given the strict criteria of Starfleet??!
@MatthewHolevinski
@MatthewHolevinski 3 жыл бұрын
my god he was great
@JamesSerapio
@JamesSerapio 3 жыл бұрын
Jellico strikes me as a very capable military commander. Possibly my favourite captain in Star Trek. And he was totally right in finally demanding that Troi wear a uniform while on duty.
@mattlawler8794
@mattlawler8794 2 жыл бұрын
Captain Picard had a painting of a space station in his quarters. Considering there’s a painting of the Enterprise D and a model of the Stargazer in his ready room, I think the show runners wanted to hint that Picard may have been in command of that space station at some point. It would have been a good way to explain what he did in the nine years between the Stargazer and the Enterprise.
@batgurrl
@batgurrl 3 жыл бұрын
Janeway rules in my book despite flaws.
@JoseMolina-ij3xx
@JoseMolina-ij3xx 3 жыл бұрын
The Flaws were mostly in the writers.
@batgurrl
@batgurrl 3 жыл бұрын
Jose Molina tedious didn’t mean her acting or anything. Yes, it’s the writing
@Sarasdad91
@Sarasdad91 3 жыл бұрын
Janeway is a great Captain, but 7 of 9 is just great to look at.
@wearemikej
@wearemikej 3 жыл бұрын
Janeway's flaws humanized her which made her a great captain. She's in my top three.
@batgurrl
@batgurrl 3 жыл бұрын
@@wearemikej she’s in my top two
@AustinFan4Life
@AustinFan4Life 3 жыл бұрын
You forgot Captain Jellico. He replaced Picard during the events of "Chain of Command" in season 6 of TNG.
@KiraBKADestroyerOfWorlds
@KiraBKADestroyerOfWorlds 2 жыл бұрын
Right, but...nobody cares about him.
@AustinFan4Life
@AustinFan4Life 2 жыл бұрын
@@KiraBKADestroyerOfWorlds There are far too many fans on him than you realize, so to say "no one", isn't exactly accurate.
@LadyArachnea
@LadyArachnea 3 жыл бұрын
Picard's Face Palm & Janeway's Death Glare are just Iconic 😀😉 Mwaaaaa "Energize". cannot hear that again without thinking of you 😁😂
@RubberStig
@RubberStig 3 жыл бұрын
When I think of the most iconic Janeway-ism, I always think "Take us out!" Picard is of course the "Picard Manoeuvre" (pulling his tunic down) Sisko was only Sisko when bald ;-)
@LadyArachnea
@LadyArachnea 3 жыл бұрын
@@RubberStig There is coffee in this Nebula 😁😋
@DragoonMS
@DragoonMS 3 жыл бұрын
Wait. Captain Garrett was born in Indiana like Captain Janeway? So between Garrett, Janeway, and Kirk, we've so far had a three country folks as starship captains, which is just AWESOME!! (not to include Dr. McCoy, as we don't know exactly what went on for him in the time between Generations and the TNG episode "Encounter at Farpoint" where he's an Admiral)
@icycream1406
@icycream1406 3 жыл бұрын
Anything Capt. Janeway says is just something else hah! She's my favorite captain. Love it! Thanks for this.
@batgurrl
@batgurrl 3 жыл бұрын
I thought I was the only one. I see lots of hate or dislike or disrespect in comments and plenty of lists
@icycream1406
@icycream1406 3 жыл бұрын
batgurrl haters gonna hate I guess, our Captain’s got a lot of fans! Ignore the haters. Gene Roddenberry’s hope for the future is all about getting past that kind of behavior.
@batgurrl
@batgurrl 3 жыл бұрын
icycream1406 so true. I also think there’s plenty of misogyny going on. Seven was hot but not in charge so they love her. She was the only captain out there all alone with no help from the federation. Hardest job of all🖖
@icycream1406
@icycream1406 3 жыл бұрын
batgurrl preach gurl! That’s why I love her, she stayed strong for her crew. And was a respected leader while maintaining her femininity. They were alone in that quadrant and they really became a bonded family by the end of it which is great.
@chrissonofpear1384
@chrissonofpear1384 3 жыл бұрын
@@icycream1406 And her autobiography book, by Brad Goodman, is also out soon...
@TysonPower
@TysonPower 3 жыл бұрын
This lore dive was dope! Love more stuff like this.
@Cybonator
@Cybonator 3 жыл бұрын
Oh my, that was truncated list. Capt Beverly Picard? Capt Geordie La Forge? Capt Harry Kim?
@lutaria16
@lutaria16 3 жыл бұрын
Poor Harry, Tom was promoted twice and he had nothing.
@daisyveronique3439
@daisyveronique3439 3 жыл бұрын
Those were alternative universes, kinda hard to figure out how they got there without anything wilritten about it before hand
@mnfrench7603
@mnfrench7603 3 жыл бұрын
What about Captain EMH?
@simonhodgson5879
@simonhodgson5879 3 жыл бұрын
They included Kelvin Kirk, why not alt crusher, Kim etc
@seanryan3020
@seanryan3020 3 жыл бұрын
Captain Decker? Captain Sulu? Captain April? Captain Scotty? (I know the video mentioned it, but not *how* he became captain) Dr. McCoy was an admiral in the TNG pilot, so he must have been captain at some point!
@jimslancio
@jimslancio 3 жыл бұрын
A favorite of mine is Captain Ben Maxwell from the NextGen episode "The Wounded."
@jacksonheathen2092
@jacksonheathen2092 3 жыл бұрын
Me too
@charlescarmichael1124
@charlescarmichael1124 3 жыл бұрын
I liked him better as Ethan Kanin in 24.
@the4thviewer28
@the4thviewer28 3 жыл бұрын
You missed Captain Decker, Captain of the refitted Enterprise before Kirk reduced him to Commander when he “stole” the command from him
@thejimg
@thejimg 3 жыл бұрын
I'm sure that Prime Spock played a part in Kelvin Kirk getting promoted to Captain...
@benwillems8584
@benwillems8584 3 жыл бұрын
How? Other than a motivating speech
@Shapes_Quality_Control
@Shapes_Quality_Control 3 жыл бұрын
That and the fact that he was Pike’s personal protege. I mean the guy was being groomed to be captain and not only devastated every challenge put to him but did it in record time and then saved the earth for good measure.
@Damnsaburna
@Damnsaburna 3 жыл бұрын
I like when Suru becomes acting captain he has the computer tell him the strengths of al the best captains and archer was on the list. Enterprise is my fave so far :)
@johncunningham4820
@johncunningham4820 2 жыл бұрын
Who's Suru ? Saru or Sulu ?
@Damnsaburna
@Damnsaburna 2 жыл бұрын
@@johncunningham4820 saru* my bad 😁
@johncunningham4820
@johncunningham4820 2 жыл бұрын
@@Damnsaburna . Thought so . I liked Saru as well .
@Damnsaburna
@Damnsaburna 2 жыл бұрын
@@johncunningham4820 I can’t wait to see the Kelpians in discovery new season
@jabbarthomas5855
@jabbarthomas5855 3 жыл бұрын
What you have to remember that just as in the real Navy (upon which Star Trek’s rank system is based), there is the RANK of CAPTAIN and the POSITION of CAPTAIN. The rank itself is a higher rank but it doesn’t guarantee that you will achieve the CAPTAINCY of a vessel or station or outpost. Another term for CAPTAIN (referring to the POSITION not the RANK), is COMMANDING OFFICER (or C.O.). So you can be a CAPTAIN-COMMANDING OFFICER but NOT hold the RANK of CAPTAIN. This happens all the time in the Navy. You often see a Lieutenant Commander serving as a CAPTAIN (the POSITION) of a smaller vessel or non-capital ship or even a shore facility like a Frigate or an Supply Ship or a small base. One example of this (and the only Star Trek CAPTAIN of a ship or facility who wasn’t a CAPTAIN in rank is Benjamin Sisko). Later he is promoted to CAPTAIN in rank, but before that he was only a COMMANDER (one rank lower) but still the COMMANDING OFFICER of DS9 and the Defiant as he held the rank of Commander.. Most of the time DS9 avoids confusing the viewers by rarely referring to him as the “Captain of DS9” in position, which he TECHNICALLY he was as its Commanding Officer. They refer to him as “Commander Sisko” until he gets his promotion to Captain (in rank), though he already was a “Captain”. I can understand why they would avoid calling Sisko a “Captain” before he achieved the rank to avoid confusion (though I think they should have started him off as a Captain in the first place...). Are there Captains that are NOT commanding officers of a vessel or ship? Absolutely! In the Navy these officers are normally taken off of any ships and placed on shore facilities as an attaché (assistant) to an Admiral. You see this once or twice in TNG BUT they don’t talk much about it.
@jonathanfraser6738
@jonathanfraser6738 2 жыл бұрын
Its also a military tradition that if you not a full general-L, you re still addressed as general. The same also goes for admirals
@mattlawler8794
@mattlawler8794 2 жыл бұрын
There was one episode during the Dominion War where Dax was in command of the Defiant. O’Brian told Nog that even though Dax didn’t hold the rank of Captain, she should be called Captain because she was in command of the ship.
@billcarr9902
@billcarr9902 3 жыл бұрын
William Windom as Commodore Matt Decker in "The Doomsday Machine" Playing with the disks in his hand in Kirk's chair after he took Command of Enterprise. Priceless.
@markreeter6227
@markreeter6227 3 жыл бұрын
Bogart's Queeg - 'The Caine Mutiny' (1954).
@billcarr9902
@billcarr9902 3 жыл бұрын
@@markreeter6227 Yes. Never thought of thar until now. Great comparison.
@mitchellburgess5253
@mitchellburgess5253 3 жыл бұрын
Honestly, a question I never asked, but I damn well want to know the answer
@trekcontinuum5946
@trekcontinuum5946 3 жыл бұрын
Great video! One minor addendum, Kirk commanded a second 5 year mission after the V’Ger incident where Spock returned to being Exec & Sci officer. Before people comment saying that’s not on screen canon... nor is half of this awesome countdown!
@laurahuston2187
@laurahuston2187 3 жыл бұрын
And at least thus was not the JJ timeline!
@robertballasty395
@robertballasty395 3 жыл бұрын
Correct - There was a second five-year mission under Kirk. Non-canon is that when Admiral Kirk felt time for a change (choosing to be closer to the Academy than to Operations as in his previous desk job) he pushed for Spock to become Captain. Spock said he would take the job as a teaching position only.
@chrissonofpear1384
@chrissonofpear1384 2 жыл бұрын
As recently documented in the novel The Higher Frontier, yes, Robert.
@les4767
@les4767 3 жыл бұрын
How every captain became captain... Sulu: Am I a joke to you?
@robertagu5533
@robertagu5533 3 жыл бұрын
Well yeah.. actually you are Sulu.
@Munataaa
@Munataaa 3 жыл бұрын
The new "Gay Sulu" is.
@les4767
@les4767 3 жыл бұрын
@@Munataaa Agreed...Nero changing the timeline wouldn't have changed Sulu's sexuality.
@VuotoPneumaNN
@VuotoPneumaNN 3 жыл бұрын
I read this in Takei's voice in my mind.
@VuotoPneumaNN
@VuotoPneumaNN 3 жыл бұрын
@@les4767 he was never explicitly straight in TOS, he isn't explicitly gay in the Kelvin movies either. Bisesxual people exist, so STFU.
@Seal0626
@Seal0626 3 жыл бұрын
12:51 that is a BEAUTIFUL transition cut.
@thomasaanderson7967
@thomasaanderson7967 3 жыл бұрын
It would have been funny to sneak a picture of Q at the end of the picture of all the captains.
@masere
@masere 2 жыл бұрын
"That's Captain Q to you young man!"
@the_door_opener2622
@the_door_opener2622 3 жыл бұрын
Everyone here is complaining about the lack of Sulu, while I’m sitting here thinking about my man Captain Decker. Great video, man, it was really interesting hearing about all the different captain’s backgrounds. I always felt bad for Harriman, always thought Generations did him cheap, though, Generations did everyone cheap. My favorite Captain is probably Archer, I always loved the feel of Enterprise really getting out there and exploring unknown space. Sure, Archer said “We’re new at this” and “We’re new in this neighborhood “ and “We’re just exploring” a bit too many times in the first two seasons, but I still love him and the crew of Enterprise NX-01 all the same.
@LancetFencing
@LancetFencing 3 жыл бұрын
Once again Sisko should have been a Commodore
@Sarasdad91
@Sarasdad91 3 жыл бұрын
Rachel Garrett was not the only female captain of an Enterprise. Beverly Crusher was given temporary command of the Enterprise D. Picard even refered to her as Captain when she took temporary command of the ship during a Borg incident.
@davidchilds9590
@davidchilds9590 6 ай бұрын
Also Deanna Troi - though she was only acting (pun intended!).
@christopherkraft1327
@christopherkraft1327 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing such a comprehensive summary of the Star Trek captains!!! I love your channel!! 🖖
@thomashill6347
@thomashill6347 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for working hard to give us fans a insightful look at the many interesting Captain characters in Star Trek. I always know I will enjoy the from TrekCulture My you live long and prosper. Maybe you could do an insightful look at what you think makes a Captain a great one from top to bottom.
@sean.ferrick
@sean.ferrick 3 жыл бұрын
Damn good idea for an article 😎
@marcusbronzyofficial
@marcusbronzyofficial 3 жыл бұрын
I need to shake the hand of whoever came up with this
@robertf3479
@robertf3479 3 жыл бұрын
Captain Harriman obviously hadn't paid close attention when researching the history of ships named 'Enterprise.' Ships carrying that name often end up in the middle of the storm when the manure hits the high speed blower. 'The torpedoes and medical staff don't arrive until Tuesday,' Kirk just rolls his eyes.
@amberwalsh2712
@amberwalsh2712 3 жыл бұрын
lol right
@KiraBKADestroyerOfWorlds
@KiraBKADestroyerOfWorlds 2 жыл бұрын
😂 do you mean when the shit hits the fan???
@glennng6221
@glennng6221 3 жыл бұрын
What about Kelsey Grammer's character, Captain Morgan Bateson (in STTNG) of the Soyuz class U.S.S Bozeman?
@douglasrowland3722
@douglasrowland3722 3 жыл бұрын
Well....he's a Britt....so he probably knows very little about Tossed Salads and Scrambled Eggs !!!!!!!.........lol
@themelligator
@themelligator 3 жыл бұрын
A fact you may know, Bozeman is an homage to birthplace of producer Brannon Braga. His AIM handle used to be Boze65 or something.
@Tar-Numendil
@Tar-Numendil 3 жыл бұрын
Or the captain of the Saratoga in The Voyage Home, or Erika Hernandez of Colombia NX-02, or Hikaru Sulu of Excelsior. This video is missing a lot.
@Tar-Numendil
@Tar-Numendil 3 жыл бұрын
@@themelligator And here I was thinking it was named so because First Contact with the Vulcans happened in Bozeman, Montana.
@thomaswashington5888
@thomaswashington5888 3 жыл бұрын
They wanted to replace Commander Riker with his double in the episode "Second Chances". When i read that recently, i thought it was interesting! Thank you for this video! I really loved it!
@russellarcher5181
@russellarcher5181 3 жыл бұрын
No Captain Sulu? I'm surprised you didn't resort to the _"Sisko is a badass"_ meme; by pointing out his ship is shaped like the back of his hand!
@rbrice259
@rbrice259 3 жыл бұрын
This was actually really very informative and to be honest. Calming. Damn good work. Thank you
@KelsaRavenlock
@KelsaRavenlock 3 жыл бұрын
Never realized it was called the Kelvin timeline due to the ship being named the Kelvin. I had thought it was due to them having Kelvin class tech from the start rather than in main Trek where Kelvin class ships and tech only show up at the very end during the dominion war. Before that point no one in the Alpha Quadrant had a capital sized ship.
@yahccs1
@yahccs1 3 жыл бұрын
What a lot of information you found... fascinating! I agree you missed Sulu... anyone else? PS glad you mentioned the "alternative timeline of Kirk etc." I thought that one had messed up the entire future history of the Star Trek universe and changed everything.
@Seinghesa
@Seinghesa 3 жыл бұрын
Daring putting both Kirk's down the list. Love your questioning!
@karlleighton3508
@karlleighton3508 3 жыл бұрын
Just watching this has made me want to rewatch all Trek, love it.
@cathythoman
@cathythoman 2 жыл бұрын
I’m re watching ds9
@myozbubble
@myozbubble 3 жыл бұрын
Great timeline. Thanks for not deviating from the theme. That's much appreciated and, respectful of my time with you. Thumbs up!
@ianmsmitchell
@ianmsmitchell 3 жыл бұрын
Good video, but you missed that Kirk was also demoted to Captain from Admiral in Star Trek IV. Yeah, I know, I'm pedantic.....
@casperslaststandme5991
@casperslaststandme5991 3 жыл бұрын
no no your not pedantic at all, pedantic would be 'you said every captain in star trek but only mentioned federation captains' lol :)
@Rumkitty2000
@Rumkitty2000 3 жыл бұрын
No one was ever happier to be demoted than Kirk!
@DarthAzabrush
@DarthAzabrush 3 жыл бұрын
I just imagine the looks Archer gets at the Captain's Table. Kirk: I had a hard climb up the ranks against the odds. Pike: I was first officer to my distinguished predecessor. Picard: I took command when the entirety of the command staff were killed in the first shot of a battle. Archer: I stole the prototype and my dad built the engine. Others: *Facepalm* Dammnit Johnny!
@YS-ep7zw
@YS-ep7zw 3 жыл бұрын
I actually think it was a lot harder on Archer than any of the others after he became Captain (rather than in getting to Captain). Not only did he not have any accumulated mission logs or previous examples from other Captains throughout history to learn from, but his was the first and only Starfleet vessel at the time setting out to explore the vast and cold blackness of space. They had to find their way, make contact with unknown species and chart completely new territory completely alone. There wasn’t an entire fleet of other ships to call for help if you needed it. It would have been a daunting prospect to say the least, but Archer and crew were more than up for it.
@DarthAzabrush
@DarthAzabrush 3 жыл бұрын
@@YS-ep7zw Sure and I'll admit he had some good ideas like loosening up the chain of command on long range missions and the beginnings of what would become the Prime Directive but at the same time there is such a thing as being too casual when you are in command of a 150 meter long tin can with an anti matter engine loaded to the brim with nukes.
@donaldholderdoc2910
@donaldholderdoc2910 2 жыл бұрын
Brilliant. I love your inflexion in your voice. You make a perfect narrator.
@danielshaver4517
@danielshaver4517 3 жыл бұрын
Okay, This turned out to be a much better video than I expected it to be. Very well done.
@abbaszaidi8371
@abbaszaidi8371 3 жыл бұрын
I love the fact that this fella craps on the Kelvin universe
@quuaaarrrk8056
@quuaaarrrk8056 3 жыл бұрын
That is obvious. The Kelvin universe IS crap.
@icarusfx
@icarusfx 3 жыл бұрын
All the movies after nemesis and shows after enterprise are just fan fiction from people who never watched Star Trek. Jar Jar Abrams said he never watched it because he didn’t get it, and the rest is just ripped off of Tardigrades
@schmilew1230
@schmilew1230 3 жыл бұрын
@@quuaaarrrk8056 it is but i still love it because those were the first movies i watched (i'm 14 so i kinda grew up - and am still growing up lmao- with it)
@quuaaarrrk8056
@quuaaarrrk8056 3 жыл бұрын
@@schmilew1230 I'm 14 and these were my first Star Trek Movies too. I like them as movies, but after I've seen most of the shows and movies twice or more often, I really hate them as STAR TREK movies. I just think of it as normal Sci-Fi and like them, but they are bad ST movies IMO.
@schmilew1230
@schmilew1230 3 жыл бұрын
@@quuaaarrrk8056 i totally agree with what you are saying they are great movies but they just don't feel like star trek
@stevemarshall3846
@stevemarshall3846 3 жыл бұрын
What about Will Decker from the first Star Trek movie? He was captain before Admiral Kirk took back the captain's chair.
@jackman6256
@jackman6256 3 жыл бұрын
Kirk captain of 1701 when an commodore decker toke command of ship away from spock remember that show
@bcs2em625
@bcs2em625 3 жыл бұрын
Will Decker, the refitted Enterprise Captain in ST: the Motion Picture was supposed to be the son of Commodore Matt Decker from the TOS episode “The Doomsday Machine”
@williampollard4759
@williampollard4759 Жыл бұрын
Very Well Done presentation. Your presenting voice is pleasant to listen to, and is engaging. I love the fact that you INDEXED all the video to enable your viewer to randomly selct the area of choice, or to rewind a selection. The content is very accurate, and informative. I would have to give this 5 out of 5 stars over all
@oldmanjim2376
@oldmanjim2376 3 жыл бұрын
First female captain of an Enterprise was actually Captain Demora Sulu, taking command of NCC-1701-B from Captain Harriman around 2311. And Picard was officially promoted to captain after the mission where he took over the Stargazer after Captain Ruhalter was killed and the XO was severely wounded and the XO later attempted a mutiny against Picard.
@transitengineer
@transitengineer 3 жыл бұрын
This was outstanding! While, I have seen all the classic Star Trek shows which, aired on network TV. Can only remember the details of how they became either a Star Ship or Space Station Captain for a few. For example, the Deep Space Nine back story is special because the commander was passed over for a promotion to the rank of Captain and then sent to an "out of the way" posting that few in Star Fleet even carried about. However, after finding a stable "worm hole" and meeting an advanced alien race (the prophets) things changed.
@2bituser569
@2bituser569 3 жыл бұрын
Was he passed over for Captain or just not enough experience yet as Commander?
@transitengineer
@transitengineer 3 жыл бұрын
Good question. So, I just went back and re-watched the first 15 minutes of the 1st episode and it appears he had everything needed to be promoted to Captain including commanding a star ship in battle against the Borg. With the loss of his wife however, he longer had that "command altitude" and continued to "blame"Captain Parcard, for the death of his wife (both which, according to Star Fleet standards showed that he was not yet ready for the higher rank of Captain).
@2bituser569
@2bituser569 3 жыл бұрын
transitengineer Yet ready for helping Bajor into the Federation?
@transitengineer
@transitengineer 3 жыл бұрын
Guess, when watching the pilot episode we each view it differently but, that is what makes for an excellent TV show. When alone on the Enterprise together, Captain Parcard says he wants Bajor added to the Federation. When Sisko asks, do you think it will happen? Captain Parcard's reply is, it is not clear because with their new independence old factions have started fighting each other again. Then Sisko states "Sounds like they are not ready".
@2bituser569
@2bituser569 3 жыл бұрын
transitengineer Picard
@jennifermason6649
@jennifermason6649 3 жыл бұрын
Don’t forget erzi Dax getting the adventine!!
@markhealey3660
@markhealey3660 3 жыл бұрын
Captain Sulu? Shows how much I miss not having time to watch tv. Thanks. Loved the update.
@chrissonofpear1384
@chrissonofpear1384 3 жыл бұрын
He got promoted towards the end of the original series movies.
@nighthawk1701
@nighthawk1701 3 жыл бұрын
This video was fantastic...but what about NCC-1701's first captain, Robert April?
@dissectingdiy
@dissectingdiy 3 жыл бұрын
Deep space nine was one of my favorite series. Just seeing the upgrades starfleet had to implement as a result of the Dominion war. As a result of the loss of the USS Odyssey. The Defiant was amazing. And Captain Sisko was one of the best captains in my opinion.
@67tr876
@67tr876 3 жыл бұрын
Robert April need's more of a story and a show. He was the first captain of the enterprise after NX-01 and captain archer got to meet April on the day of the launch. One day later captain archer would die.
@CaptRobertApril
@CaptRobertApril 3 жыл бұрын
Bless you!
@robertf3479
@robertf3479 3 жыл бұрын
That's odd, I thought April commanded Enterprise for her first five year mission (ST-TAS) and then was promoted with Christopher Pike taking command for something like 10 years.
@CaptRobertApril
@CaptRobertApril 3 жыл бұрын
@@robertf3479 Correct.
@67tr876
@67tr876 3 жыл бұрын
@@robertf3479 yeah that's correct. I was saying he was the next captain after archer.
@robertf3479
@robertf3479 3 жыл бұрын
@@67tr876 My apologies, I misread / misunderstood your comment. For some reason I read it as APRIL dying one day after NCC-1701 launched.
@Iwtni06
@Iwtni06 3 жыл бұрын
I really enjoyed this video! Thank you!
@JoseMolina-ij3xx
@JoseMolina-ij3xx 3 жыл бұрын
You missed Sulu, Crusher, Data, and Mirror Spock.
@skyserf
@skyserf 3 жыл бұрын
15:04 I never thought about it much before but why were so many families onboard such a small ship as the USS Saratoga? Especially knowing it was headed to intercept a Borg cube.
@VuotoPneumaNN
@VuotoPneumaNN 3 жыл бұрын
It's not like anyone knew the Borg were coming in time for the families to get shipped away...
@skyserf
@skyserf 3 жыл бұрын
Vuoto Pneumatico Non Non Regardless if there was time or not I thought one of the big new features of the Galaxy class starship was that it was large enough to allow for families to travel with the crew. The implication being that it didn’t happen before that class, especially not on a small ship like a Miranda-class vessel.
@VuotoPneumaNN
@VuotoPneumaNN 3 жыл бұрын
@@skyserf maybe not all families were allowed, just the ones of high-ranking officials. Sisko was the first officer, so it makes sense that his family was let live on the ship.
@skyserf
@skyserf 3 жыл бұрын
Vuoto Pneumatico Non Non Perhaps, but it was never mentioned before or again.
@VuotoPneumaNN
@VuotoPneumaNN 3 жыл бұрын
@@skyserf I don't think anyone's gonna officially address that ever, so this explanation is as good as any
@acentaur010
@acentaur010 3 жыл бұрын
What about Sulu? He went off and become captain of the Excelsior. Or are you saving that for his spin-off show?
@ToallpointsWest
@ToallpointsWest 3 жыл бұрын
Wow this took a lot of research! Good show!
@talkingbull10
@talkingbull10 3 жыл бұрын
My friend, this is really good...Thank you.
@yougosquishnow
@yougosquishnow 3 жыл бұрын
1) if pike was made first office of the enterprise he was the second captain not the first. 2) Picard laughed when the nosican stabbed him, he didn't just smile.
@sirusfan8890
@sirusfan8890 3 жыл бұрын
Yes he was the first Captn was Robert April.
@anthonygonzalez2897
@anthonygonzalez2897 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah Robert April has always been cannonically the first Captain of the Enterprise. It is just not as well known because I believe it is covered in the originally cancelled pilot episode of Star Trek, The Cage. Then later revealed when that episode was released. Something along those lines.
@yougosquishnow
@yougosquishnow 3 жыл бұрын
@@anthonygonzalez2897 right. I remember somewhere someone mentioned captain April. Might have been pike or Kirk.
@sebastianhopkins7322
@sebastianhopkins7322 3 жыл бұрын
Riker also took command of the USS Zheng He (in the last episode of Season 1 of Star Trek:Picard)
@robertf3479
@robertf3479 3 жыл бұрын
I suspect that Riker, as 'Acting Captain' was exercising positional authority normally in the wheelhouse of an Admiral just as Sisko did while 'commanding' a fleet of starships from USS Defiant with the rank of Captain.
@Amberscion
@Amberscion 3 жыл бұрын
I wanted to learn how Matt Decker (Commodore of the Constellation in TOS episode The Doomsday Machine) became captain, but apparently only Enterprise captains are covered despite the title. ;-P
@skittyrocks
@skittyrocks 3 жыл бұрын
Captain Riker made me audibly laugh. I just watch Picard and completely forgot. "Commander Riker" is just so ingrained in my mind...
@charlestownsend9280
@charlestownsend9280 3 жыл бұрын
How many ads do you want on this video? I'm not even half way through and there have been 6. It's making it hard to watch with all the interuptions.
@MrAndroidData
@MrAndroidData 3 жыл бұрын
get an adblocker then, i dont see any!
@charlestownsend9280
@charlestownsend9280 3 жыл бұрын
@@MrAndroidData yeah i have that on my computer but i'm watching from my phone. I don't mind ads (they've got to make money somehow), just when there are a large number of them and they are long.
@hmartinspliff
@hmartinspliff 3 жыл бұрын
Just pretend you're going to warp speed when pressing the "Skip Ad" button for each ad......during the 5 seconds you have to wait for the button to show up, make the warp drive powering up sound: *_"doooooooooOOOOOOOHHHH, PTEEEWW!!!"_*
@Rumkitty2000
@Rumkitty2000 3 жыл бұрын
That's why you need to upgrade to get You Tube commercial free.
@shawnthompson3059
@shawnthompson3059 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you I keep getting the same ad asking do you approve of tRUMP. I'm over here like if I didn't approve of his ass one minute ago wtf makes you think watching another minute of a Trek Culture video is going to change my mind?
@hitmanRazo
@hitmanRazo 3 жыл бұрын
Trevor Noah really knows his Star Trek! 🙌🏻
@pknuttarlott4934
@pknuttarlott4934 3 жыл бұрын
I love your antique film filter the squiggly lines random black dots and cigarette burns. Beautiful.
@pault5557
@pault5557 2 жыл бұрын
GREAT RESEARCH! I laughed out loud at your dis of the “Kelvin Universe”! 🤪
@jolantru3085
@jolantru3085 3 жыл бұрын
When you say "every captain" do you mean captains like John "C U Next Tuesday" Harriman or Charlie Reynolds? What about Captain Proton? This gon' be a big-ass list.
@johannesbridges1341
@johannesbridges1341 3 жыл бұрын
Commander Proton was promoted to Captain after saving two buxom slave girls from Planet X.
@pickeljarsforhillary102
@pickeljarsforhillary102 3 жыл бұрын
Charlie has been in tight spots before. He'll make it.
@jolantru3085
@jolantru3085 3 жыл бұрын
@@pickeljarsforhillary102 But he never did know when to quit.
@jimslancio
@jimslancio 3 жыл бұрын
Captain Proton could be a spin-off series.
@hmartinspliff
@hmartinspliff 3 жыл бұрын
No, the list is very short. There *_IS_* only *"ONE"* Captain in Star Trek and that is Captain Kirk _(as portrayed by William Shatner)_ .......so-called captains like Picard, Sisko and Janeway get pissed on from a very great height by Captain Kirk; so high that they think it must be raining except the rain is warm and tastes funny so they pull out their tricorders and determine that the rain is actually piss, specifically that of Captain Kirk. Those so-called captains are career Starfleet officers that followed the rule book and regulations to get to their position; with Captain Kirk, it was fate, destiny, the alignment of the stars, out-of-the-box thinking, and sheer badassery.
@allenbooth5193
@allenbooth5193 3 жыл бұрын
How about Captain Stiles of the Excelsior? I have no doubt that he was relieved of his captaincy after Scotty disabled the Excelsior, but he technically WAS her first captain.
@ogeegonesoon8549
@ogeegonesoon8549 Жыл бұрын
Up your shaft stiles
@stevengalloway8052
@stevengalloway8052 3 жыл бұрын
Good examinations and explanations. Thank you... 👍
@mterry4428
@mterry4428 3 жыл бұрын
Will Decker was also a captain of Enterprise before being demoted by Kirk and so was Robert April he was the FIRST captain of the 23rd century Enterprise.
@Nikioko
@Nikioko 3 жыл бұрын
"They nicked the ship" - typical British slang... ;-)
@thesageofgames1871
@thesageofgames1871 3 жыл бұрын
So, before on the Stargazer there was the possibility that Picard would have been Captain Garrett's first officer, until she pulled a Riker and turned it down, eventually getting the Enterpise C, and then Picard goes on to command the enterprise D...
@JacobStJules
@JacobStJules 3 жыл бұрын
This blew my mind! I had NO idea she was offered the Stargazer.
@thesageofgames1871
@thesageofgames1871 3 жыл бұрын
@@JacobStJules I have to wonder though, if Garrett had taken the stargazer, is there a possibility that in a few years, Picard might have been given the Enterprise C? Or would Picard still end up with the Stargazer if Garrett went out the way that Captain Ruhalter did.
@JacobStJules
@JacobStJules 3 жыл бұрын
@@thesageofgames1871 maybe. But I think the lack of command experience and his age make me think he wouldn't have even been considered for command of the flagship. His over 20 years on the Stargazer and taking command in a pinch essentially molded his career. All-in-all my guess is he would have been too green to be offered the C.
@chrissonofpear1384
@chrissonofpear1384 2 жыл бұрын
@@thesageofgames1871 Hmm, source for this? I recall in the Stargazer books Admiral McAteer tries to give Garrett the Stargazer over Picard, but that clashes with other sources saying she'd made captain of the Enterprise-C the year before.
@thesageofgames1871
@thesageofgames1871 2 жыл бұрын
I don't remember the specific source saying Garrett was offered the Stargazer. Just that it was beta canon. Though clearly if she was already commanding the Ent-C before that, whomever wrote it made a miscalculation. That aside it is feasible that it could happen with the times being adjusted. By the time Ent-C was launched the Stargazer was likely 20-30 years old as her registry puts her commissioning around 5-10 years after the launch of the Excelsior. The Ent-C, however, if not for the legacy registry would have had her number likely in the 10,000's. As the Ambassador herself was NX-10250 or something like that. Also by that point utopia planitia was operational and churning out ships in droves.
@itsmznatnatbitchez
@itsmznatnatbitchez 3 жыл бұрын
Very good video! Very informational! Thanks!! Subbed & Liked!
@davidchamblee4364
@davidchamblee4364 3 жыл бұрын
Great video. Excellent narration !
@jad4945
@jad4945 3 жыл бұрын
Didn't La Forge end up as a captain as well? Or does it not count due to being part of that voyager time travel thingy.
@TheMikeX74
@TheMikeX74 3 жыл бұрын
J Ad It’s only in that alternate timeline and in Beta canon(the novel “Indistinguishable from Magic”) that he gets his own ship, the Challenger.
@michaelgarwood7076
@michaelgarwood7076 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, doesn't count. And being dependant on that visor Thingy, would be a strike against ya at the promotions Board. Darn.
@benwillems8584
@benwillems8584 3 жыл бұрын
@@michaelgarwood7076 you'd think that if it doesn't disqualify you from running a warp reactor, running the ship shouldn't be an issue
@brucebanner3566
@brucebanner3566 3 жыл бұрын
@@michaelgarwood7076 hey, didn't they upgrade his visor into ocular implants? First contact.
@MarioStingerPerpetualTraveller
@MarioStingerPerpetualTraveller 3 жыл бұрын
You forget Beverly Crusher, captain of the Paster.
@allthingsnerd.4484
@allthingsnerd.4484 3 жыл бұрын
But, with that being an alternate future, that may not have wound up happening at all.
@allthingsnerd.4484
@allthingsnerd.4484 3 жыл бұрын
@Douglas Davis that was the previous poster that misspelled that, not me. ;-)
@amethyst7084
@amethyst7084 3 жыл бұрын
Isn't this about every captain of the Enterprise?
@jimminey-fooking-cricket4903
@jimminey-fooking-cricket4903 3 жыл бұрын
Nice to see Captain Garret on the list.
@nm3260
@nm3260 3 жыл бұрын
I like this video already and I’ve not even watched it! Great idea
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