Trekyards EP291 - Intrepid Class (Part 2)

[@CrazySpence]

When you were ripping on the shuttle bay you should have brought up how somehow they had been carrying around Nelix freighter for 7 years.

[@callumwearne7870]

when this ship lands it is pretty damn cool

[@rexremedy1733]

The shape of Voyager is Perfection!

[@based_seattle]

To offer some context, on Naval vessels, the bridge is neither in the center of the ship, nor is the captain's chair in the middle of the bridge. :)

[@henrynorcrossii3363]

The US Navy though did ask to study the original Enterprise bridge layout as being far more logical and workable. So many of the current Naval Bridges have taken at least some design cues from the original Enterprise.

[@creepyrobot23-50]

The shuttlebay exterior doors are shaped like that so it links to the interior set. Since part of the shuttlebay is a practical set, the doors had to be shaped in an easy way to build. If they build the exterior with clam shells and the interior with a rectangle garage, it would cause even more problems.

[@Riceball01]

I can buy that. Besides, as they always forget, in space there's no gravity so it would be easy enough to fly above the shuttle bay, drop down, and once right in front of the door just go in. Alternately, they could always simply use a tractor beam and all the shuttle pilot has to do is simply park the shuttle in front of the shuttle bay and let the tractor beam operator do all the work. Much like Kahn and the show's writers, the Capt. and the Cdr. really seem to have problems thinking in 3 dimensions and remembering that there's no gravity in space. This always comes up whenever they talk about shuttle bays, like here.

[@creepyrobot23-50]

I completely agree, as much as I love TYds, that tends to be a recurring problem. My go to phrase is "Are you a 24th century engineer? The ship designers are more advanced than us in every way, they wouldn't build them with these supposed problems unless it worked" Also works for thin pylon and neck arguments.

[@Riceball01]

Very true, but at the same time I wouldn't oversell the capabilities of a hypothetical 24th century engineer. Present day engineers are constantly knowingly designing things that really don't work that well and I'm sure that future engineers will continue to do so as well. Of course, any engineers working for Starfleet probably wouldn't have to worry about budget constraints, something that affects real life engineering projects. On the other hand, they'd probably still have to worry about Starfleet asking for too much and in too short of a time just like what happens to engineers today.

[@adamlytle2615]

3:55 - much as I dig the futuristic idea of having a smooth ship, it doesn't make intuitive sense that sensors would be functional from behind hull plating.

[@DarthRagnarok343]

Modern radar is usually put behind a protective shell, so I think starfleet can do it.

[@adamlytle2615]

DarthRagnarok343 maybe in some cases. But surely many of the devices in the sensor pallette are more akin to a telescope? Then again, considering they often detect things multiple light years away in real time, I'm assuming they're detecting phenomenon/objects through subspace somehow? So ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[@CinemaManne]

Voyager left space dock early hull plating on front of ship was supposed to be installed on "Tuesday" by the same people who built Enterprise B I guess lol 😂

[@henrynorcrossii3363]

I think a lot of the problems that it had is because it was only outfitted for maybe four or five weeks at the most. They were most likely expected to return to space dock after that mission for resupply and their next assignment.

[@nexusvideo]

this was always my favorite ship.

[@TURDSnBEEF1]

That deflector always looked like a really happy voyager face to me.

[@MartinGasparini86]

The intrepid is the best ship ever... I love it is not huge that you need a small city to use it... Can land on planets can explore and make scientific experiment... And is strong in fight too... Is the perfect mix... It does not have the separation because it can just land... The only two things I think it need was something to be use in case of long range endeavor... A industrial replicator the hidroponic...

[@Capronice]

Voyager is perfect

[@marksmith2178]

You're not alone Captain. I could never remember the Reg number for Voyager either.

[@adamlytle2615]

Yeah, I wouldn't feel too badly about that. 1701 is short, repeats a number, is classic, was used on two shows, etc etc. I think the characters even said it out loud on a number of occasions. I'm not sure if they ever said Voyager's registry out loud. I don't think many fans could remember the Voyager or Defiant registry.

[@90lancaster]

Disco's is easy to remember and as Samuel said so is The Reliant. naturally Excelsior is easy peasy too. I've already forgotten Shinzhou's it had a 12 in it I think though. I can usually remember Grissom (638). Sometimes I remember Franklin sometimes not. Not got a clue what Prometheus' is other than it starts with a 5. But I have a model of it 2 foot away so I can always look.. (goes and looks) it's 59650 (still doesn't make any sense other than some weird carry over from a previous project from like 20 years ago) Equinox was 72381 (had to look that one up too) oh and Constellation was 2893 But no I can't ever remember Voyager or Ds9's Defiants number either - heck I don't recall the old Connie sisterships number most of the time either.

[@90lancaster]

What sort of ops things did data do anyway ? Now you mentioned it i'm struggling to think... sensors - Saucer sep perhaps ? - Worf should be in charge of Shields and weapons. I suppose Data could monitor a lot more than a typical organic humanoid could - but other than Scanning life forms and sitting there to make bad jokes - I'm not sure what he actually did - perhaps the show didn't know either as in later shows he hardly ever sat there except to be on the bridge for the sake of a line. otherwise he's just as likely to be in Engineering or his quarters.

[@darcknightfall1698]

If you want Intepid variants, check out the ones in STO Captain. You can kitbash one hell of a cool ship.

[@gaetanbard102]

You have to remember, this those land so outside repare can be done at that time.

[@foxpianocovers]

Re docking the Airo Shuttle would have been a pain in the ass! Talk about having to be perfectly aligned!!

[@TheMikeX74]

I would guess that the “squares” around the aeroshuttle are sensor palettes. The Galaxy class has them around the captain’s yacht.

[@jonuiuc1]

You need to look up madkoifish's "wedge trek" design. another more cage-like take on the Discovery type ship. Guy has a talent.

[@taramcblakeshire8516]

I could never get how voyager landing legs being able to balance the ship when landed and not tip over as the large saucer section hangs over unsupported.

[@olympicnut]

Defiant: NX-74205. Voyager: NCC-74656.

[@lawrencehaguewood5857]

In terms of the shuttle bay, I’d presume there is a force field ‘netting’ extending out from the door to guide/prevent the small ships from hitting anything. Energy bumpers if you will.

[@Riceball01]

That or a small tractor beam so that all the pilot has to do is park his shuttle in range and "view" of the emitter and just be pulled in. That, or park roughly in front of the bay doors, use thrusters to align yourself with the openings, then simply apply a small amount of forward and in you go. Since there's no gravity in space the shuttle can maintain its position in a "hover" with no problem at all, even if the mothershp itself is moving, if they're moving all they have to do is simply match velocities. There's probably even a parking feature that does all of this for you once you're close enough to the shuttle bay. The only time that such a small shuttle bay door poses a problem is in the case of an emergency and/or the shuttle needs to get in fast and is incapable of or doesn't have the time to hover" and adjust and then park.

[@colanitower]

After her return Voyager will have got a personalized license plate

[@terifarley4770]

Excelsior is NCC 2000

[@orutakawatenga8820]

If the view screen image is fuzzed out by the sender, they can scramble & encrypt all but the Captain/Admiral & those on the "thrones."

[@ryanholden3522]

Wow I thought knowing registries was a big deal, I remember dozens lol!

[@chrisgwilliam9893]

Love Voyager one of my favourite ships

[@wargodsix]

You guys should really look into the landing gear how do they get out when they land the concepts show they climb down but that's not really efficient would they be thick enough for a turbo lift to run through when it's landed

[@donaldhill3823]

We can forgive you for not remembering the Voyagers Hull number. I do not think they focused on it much in the fly byes. Bridge is way better then the 1701D. Every thing being behind the Captain is actually for the camera but I think they would put most of the important stations/displays forward of the Capt on a real ship so he/she could get a snap shot of what was going on around the ship at a glance with out having to turn around. I never got the impression that a Work-be could operate down on a planet. They do not give the appearance of having the right engine design for working planet side.

[@captianjessie1]

How did the delta flyer even fit inside the vouager shutle bay small door?

[@HuggieBear39]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/bGGtcoSYmdOZrsUm29s

[@Capronice]

Voyager was my favorite ship. Also I think the Seven and Capt. Janeway relationship was the closest thing to Spock and Kirk. I like when the two of them are kidnapped and they are barely effected by their situation the two of them manage to talk about their personal issues and at the same time work their way out of their imprisonment. Very similar to Kirk and Spock talking to each other in a jail and creating a laser beam out of a bed spring and a light bulb while Spock stood on MCcoy's back. I really liked when Star Trek characters maintained their cool in most situations.

[@ericreese7792]

It's a shame that Kate Mulgrew never got along with Jeri Ryan. They had a fantastic rapport as actors.

[@InventorZahran]

I'd like to see a refit version with Enterprise-E type nacelles, a different hull color, and slightly updated general design aspects.

[@enterprise-h312]

9:20 Holofilters. (DS9: Second Skin)

[@hpbifta]

Would love to see you guys interview the guys from Stage 9 and let us know what you think of their version of the Enterprise D and how it's coming on.

[@power543]

its planned!

[@PsychoStreak]

They could have had a retractable cover for the exposed equipment, that always bugged me. Nacelles could be longer, although just bigger would be nice. Ok. yeah, different nacelles - I like the Akira style personally. Still think where the bridge is should be where the saucer meets the secondary hull (making it the aux control room) as I do not like the hump. The large windows under the forward phaser strips on the top of the saucer could have been torpedo launchers - bit of a missed opportunity. But yeah, the Aeroshuttle was such a missed opportunity. They could have at least mentioned why it was unsuitable when they built the Delta Flyer. They just needed to hot rod the Aeroshuttle, not sap the parts bank for the Flyer. I like the Flyer, mind you, but they could have done so much with this. But if Voyager is Gilligan's Island, Janeway's the Skipper, then that makes Chakotay Gilligan? LOL Although I guess technically the first officer dies in the 1st episode so, he's replacement Gilligan. Actually that's worse...

[@keyonno]

How about presenting the ships in the Blizzard game Starcraft?

[@virginiahansen320]

Remember, it carries anywhere between 24 and 2,000,000 torpedoes, depending on the needs of the writers, and between 4 and 400 shuttles, depending on the episode.

[@paddy1414]

In fairness... They did have onboard manufacturing facilities

[@thribs]

I thought you would go into some of the other major rooms of the ship like engineering and astrometrics.

[@Jack_Stafford]

Absolutely fantastic renders in this Mission briefing! A question I have about the design as I always wondered about the lack of Windows particularly on the bottom of the saucer. I know it's relatively flat but still it has a very large blank area compared to most ships of the era to which we had become accustomed. I love the bridge but one *major* design flaw. Over all those years she had to stomp in heels onto the bridge, go down two steps, then go back up one step to get to the large area in the middle. Even coming out of her ready room she had to stomp up two stairs, walk a little bit then step up another stair. They're literally was no way to get on that bridge without going up and down stairs and ducking around a banister while you're in a hurry to a red alert. And I do love the alcoves for the science and Ops rather than having Ops at the front, it's just that tiny silly thing that I always notice of them running onto the bridge and having to dive around that railing while going up and down stairs that have no functional value and can't fathom where they didn't notice that while building the set. No stairs to get on the enterprise-d!

[@90lancaster]

might be a lack of windows for several reasons. 1) So you don't blind or freak out people when you land the ship 2) There is a lot of cargo bay storage, tech or labs in that area & not quarters 3) No one wants windows in the floor? 4) The wash from the main deflector or torpedo fire may be unsafe to be so near windows - since it's relatively close to the underside of the ship. I have thought about this and I think the close deflector behind the Primary hull underside may be the actual reason for the lack of window and relative lack of escape pods too the same principle seems to be in place with the Prometheus and Nova class too.

[@worldcomicsreview354]

To be fair smallish science ships probably aren't designed for red alert. If they get in trouble they run away and get a Galaxy or Soverign to sort it out

[@PsychoStreak]

You're right about the stairs. Definitely not ADA compliant. Those railings, while ok for preventing people from flying across the bridge, were pretty much there to bust your skull open on and break ribs. For the underside of the saucer, I'd imagine it had thicker plating to help with atmospheric re-entry, as that was the part of the hull with the largest surface area. I'd also expect that they'd have shutters on any windows on the ventral side for the same reason. While it'd be cool to watch the re-entry from a window, imagine your (albeit brief) annoyance if you were standing at the one defective or just plain worn out window. Nobody wants a face full of hot plasma. Nobody.

[@DarenSpinelle]

Ok that's it. I wanna design one. What software so you guys use?

[@starsiegeplayer]

I don't mind Voyager's design, but the thing about the voyager design that bugged me the most was that the phaser banks were mounted to the sides. Forward firing ability would seem to be a pretty important feature to me.

[@90lancaster]

with her nose up about 1 degree she can fire the top ones the underside ones the two short ones near the impulse drive and the belly one all at the same time (if one really wanted to do that for some reason) another 5 degrees and the 4 rear underside ones come into play too. so slightly nose up she packs a real punch. Her rear coverage isn't brilliant though due to the strips stopping part way and the rear strip being tiny ones. She's got so many i'm not even sure if she's got as few as 13 or many as 20 of them as some details are hard to see. Also there is some question as to if the microstrips on the "Aeroshuttle cover" underside work too. It looks like a yaw 3 degress away from a target would also allow the upper and lower strips to fire to the side at the same time - as well as as the belly strip. Voyager has not quite perfect coverage but it's good enough to make a reasonable point defence if used that way against swarming multiple targets.

[@Riceball01]

90 Lancaster No reason why the Voyager couldn't or wouldn't adjust its attitude relative to an opponent in combat. Remember, they're in space so there's no up or down and no reason why you would need to be facing an opponent on the same plane or even rotated along the same axis.

[@ipponyc]

Why does federation ships have their bridge exposed like that. (excluding the Defiant)? Never made any sense.

[@DarinRWagner]

I think the reason that people remember the registry numbers for the Enterprise and Reliant and not the Voyaver and Defiant is simply that the former had four digits and the latter had five.

[@xheralt]

Do you remember your ZIP code? Use five digits enough, you'll remember them.

[@DarinRWagner]

Gary C, I think that's significantly different.

[@olympicnut]

Shouldn't they have robots to do a lot of the repair work?

[@Foomandoonian]

Interestingly, there are actually techniques to de-blur images CSI-style now. One can imagine that by the 24th century these machine-learning techniques would be able to reconstruct detailed scenes from minimal information. With hindsight, this would explain Trek's incredible viewscreen technology (the ability to zoom in incredibly far and to see things from angles other than where your ship is).

[@90lancaster]

Like how The Enteprise D could see angles for Saucer separation where there was nothing to film those angles. It's fine showing it to the audience but not putting it on their screens too - that should have been a camera angle from the nacelles and from the "cobrahead" - the only excuse is likely that the viewscreen is making it up based on sensor data and the image is a simulation of sensor data - not a live camera feed.

[@FLAME4564]

hmmm NCC - 74558 or NCC - 74568. I hope that helps u remember Voyagers Registry number captian.

[@90lancaster]

This isn't a joke (honest) : The Surak : VS 5047 61192259584-5 (The registry of the Warp Shuttle in Star Trek the Motion Picture)

[@robinvan1983]

the problem with the lost in space with no resources in VOY was that they never were lost in space with no resources. Everything was replicated, the only 2 episodes that actually touched on it was year of hell. I mean, how many times did they build the delta flyer out of scratch?

[@xheralt]

Yup. LOL. kzbin.info/www/bejne/hnqqqYB7g9ykZ80

[@xheralt]

In my headcanon, they have to stop every so often and break up a heavy-metals rich asteroid for replicator mass, transfer from cargo transporter buffering into the replicator system. The real problem was getting enough deuterium and antideuterium to fuel the warp drive and their power generation systems. Which they stated in first season then conveniently ignored for the rest of the show's run.

[@thribs]

True but who wants to watch that? The whole point of the show was to explore a unknown region.

[@90lancaster]

My Joint favourite KZbin video along with Pogo singing Picard & Data. But speaking of Voyager... no I didn't know there was a Tractor beam on the tail either - heck I'd never notice there was a cargo loading door like Excelsior has either (I really should have though) - I thought they only had one underneath near the warp core ejection port (sometimes mistaken for a torpedo launcher by those making the show it seems).

[@90lancaster]

The problem with the whole Deuterium angle is what Deuterium is (it's just a slightly rarer type of Hydrogen) and there is a ton of it all over the place the ship picks it up by simply flying around - and failing that it just has to sit near a star and suck it up from that. Anti-Deuterium they can make (they have a specific part to do it - it's a pretty big lump too one of the largest pieces on the ship (behind the main components like nacelles, Impulse engines Warp Core, deflector and Matter storage tanks. But one has to hand wave away a lot of silly ideas in Star Trek like the whole question of the holodecks power supply being incompatible with the rest of the ship. They needed to be short of resources for story reasons so for that reason they suffered a temporary memory loss as to what Bussard Collectors are actually for it seems. That is even without that they can also pick up and filter out other matter types too. One thing I do wonder is how much water they bother storing and how much they just leave as Hydrogen (in the matter storage) and as Oxygen in the atmosphere re-processors. I'm sure they must store "some".

[@jacobvaughn9276]

I just realized their viewscreen problem is invalid, after all, every time they have a hail, all you can see is a close up of the captain, so it wpuld work in reverse. You wouldn't see the whole bridge, just a tiny part of it.

[@PsychoStreak]

It's still a problem if the captain stands up. You'd see at least a small part of what was behind them, and if you're familiar with Starfleet color schemes flashing red lights on a huge screen are almost always bad, plus you could confirm your own sensor readings. Seated you wouldnt see much. On Sulu's Excelsior it makes sense since IIRC his chair could swivel 360 deg, but on Voyager it doesn't make sense operationally for it to face he main viewscreen. You'd think it would have a macro to throw up the Starfleet screen saver when comm channels were open though. flying deltas or goldfish. Something that gave nothing away.

[@jacobvaughn9276]

PsychoStreak fair point.

[@MASSTERCAM]

Even today we have programs they can delete in realtime objects from a video you are making. So there shouldnt be any problem in the Star Trek future to let the computer filter out sensitive informations on screen and make them invisible or even put "fake" infos on screen.

[@louferrao2044]

I like this bridge better than Enterprise D.

[@johnathanschreiner5590]

I remember reading that it was budgetary that they never used the Aeroshuttle, but you'd think it wouldn't have been much different to use the Aeroshuttle instead of the Delta Flyer.

[@quoniam426]

I think the aeroshuttle would be less tough than the Delta Flyer tbh.

[@johnathanschreiner5590]

I guess yeah, the Delta Flyer was purpose built to fly into the gas giant so that would make sense.

[@MrRandomcommentguy]

The Bridge is the one major aspect of Voyager I don't like - I really don't like the fixed captains chairs. And having two of them removes the visual authority of the Captain.

[@quoniam426]

Funnily though, in nowadays warships, the captain's chair is not central on the bridge ! It is on the side of it, the XO is either standing or on an other chair, on the other side... The one thing I hate on Voyager bridge is the fixed chair and the shared info screen/controls between the two that oblige the captain and XP to lean towards it, and that is not ergonomic at all... no little controls/screens in the arms, that is rather uncool and un practical.

[@foxpianocovers]

I was never a fan of the lack of centre seat...

[@thribs]

I always assumed that the front part was incomplete. It confused me for years why they never put a plate on it.

[@Nikephorus]

I always thought the Intrepid was ugly, but then I saw Discovery.

[@cheeto1362]

Remember this ship can land on a planet, so maybe when they are running shuttle missions on surface they can land on the back with out going into the ship all the time.

[@90lancaster]

It looks like one of the reasons the Galaxy Class has such odd "wings" might be as a place to put shuttles in an emergency (such as a fire in the bay) - I wouldn't want to think of what it's like sitting on the hull in a shuttle under those huge engines though - even if you'd be under the warp field intersection point.

[@jaywiegs1712]

I never liked the short nacelles, it would look so much better if they were longer towards the rear.

[@thribs]

The refit version in the novels would be more to your liking.

[@90lancaster]

The short Nacelles might be a consequence of the landing operations to reduce stress in an atmosphere - also the strut articulation and new type of warp core may mean they just don't need bigger nacelles. That said I'd not mind if they were a little longer and a little thin with Enterprise E style Bussards - but that is much like what the Full Circle fleet Voyager looks like anyway.

[@jaywiegs1712]

When the designed the Enterprise D was designed I recall something about the short Nacelles so the model could fit on screen better. Not sure if they just kept that design aesthetic for continuity purposes or not, or a combination of the reasons you gave also?

[@el_covfefe]

I didn't like the co chairs. They knew it was going to feature a female captain and they decide to put the male second in command in a equal position.

[@ericreese7792]

I agree, Voyager's registry number isn't very memorable.

[@CRocketSlim]

I give Starfleet engineers a lot of credit... Battlestar Galactica took half the abuse Voyager did and only lasted like 3-4 decades (waiting for someone to correct me)

[@Slavir_Nabru]

You think? I would have assumed Galactica having received more abuse, it had to take the brunt of the punishment for the duration of the rest of the fleet jumping out and then a bit longer while it was recalling vipers. It had no shields so every missile they failed to shoot down would actually damage the hull rather than just reduce a replenishable battery. Voyager took a few scratches here and there interspersed with breathing room to conduct repairs, Galactica was under constant attack with only the one respite at New Caprica . Given that the time-line in which the year of hell occurred never happened, Voyager returned relativity unscathed with the exception of the mess the Hirogen left the holodecks in. Also, Voyager was brand new and state of the art, Galactica was a relic of a previous generation, past its decommissioning date. I'd give more credit to the engineers of the Colonial Fleet. Even with their comparatively primitive technology they managed to keep that rust bucket airtight and moving for a half century.

[@treguard1982]

Hi guys. Love your videos still, but would it be worth making some notes of points you want to make? Just felt that this one was a bit lacking (compared to usual) in terms of detailed/technical points.

[@STNuevo]

was "the" Voyager the first ship with an astrometric lab?

[@adamlytle2615]

I think it was inspired by the stellar cartography room we see in Star Trek Generations.

[@xheralt]

Astrometrics employs a very "old school" approach to stellar cartography that has been largely obsoleted by Treknology. It may not be in use in mainline StarFleet ships, but I suspect it (or something like it) was in use on deepspace exploration vessels (such as the two that were diverted to intercept _Voyager_ but were then bypassed and forgotten about when _Voyager_ made it home) . Possibly a dedicated, purpose-built science vessel (as opposed to a ship of the line such as _Reliant_ tasked with a scientific mission) would have astrometrics as well. Granted, any non-Voyager astrometrics would lack Seven's Borg innovations/refinements.

[@snonsig2688]

Attempt #6 Pleeeaaase guys can you make a video on the ds9 yeager class!!! I whould LOVE to see that episode

[@power543]

you know i've replied to this like 3 times now? ..i'm going to stop replying after this since ive answered this many many times :)

[@90lancaster]

I'm here all the time I've never heard you say a peep about it. Besides all you have to say is one of the following: 1) We don't have enough resources to do an episode on it yet 2) As it's a cut & shunt - you can just watch the episodes that cover the components 3) Sammy no like Sammy Smash !!! 4) This is my Favourite ship in the whole Star Trek Universe - but we are saving it for when we have a quarter Million Subs as a special treat 5) Pay us lots and lots and lots of money on indygogo and the eps yours 6) Stuart is allergic to it - it gives him hives. 7) That ship is to sexy we are concerned that covering it might be to stimulating for the audience. 8) Sure we will do the Yeager (the one from ST:Discovery though). Just kidding.

[@JessHull]

We should do a go fund me to get Stuart a better web cam.

[@andipawlik3468]

As long as you have a holodeck, who gives a shit how far the detour to get home?

[@Slavir_Nabru]

There were far less holodecks than crew. Can you imagine how long the wait time was for a lowly crewman to get their turn, especially with the senior staff constantly hogging one to run an Irish pub.

[@sw-gs]

You guys should really add some ambient music in background during discussion.

[@power543]

Sorry :) no plans to do so...we cant use copyrighted music otherwise we cant monatise our hard work and we dont want to keep repeating the same few non copyright tracks that are 1-3 munites again and again in a loop all episode...specially if its like 40mins. Nope no intention to do so.

[@90lancaster]

There is always that chap who does Plan 9's Music for their Enterprise D. Ask nicely & throw him some $.

[@Jack_Stafford]

OMG NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! I can't stand those videos with that unnecessary little buzzing music in the background! It makes some words harder to hear that aren't as loud and just creates an aural interference that's not necessary. I think that's the worst thing anybody can do is put just some random Jazzy music behind your voice to distort and confuse the ears of people trying to appreciate a video about something they enjoy without being subject to the musical tastes of who knows who! To me that makes a constant background buzzing that is so much more of an irritant than it ever would be an addition.

[@power543]

You really think as the perosn who films/edits/3D animates/makes new 2D renders/does the new graphics and organises + plans a ton of new episodes i have any space time to both learn how to score new music and have the time to get enough to sound acceptable? Why lower the qualiy of our shows by me doing bad music, and yes maybe there would be somebody else that could do music but we have not found a person who can give the time and energy necessary to generate the needed tracks for this channel

[@90lancaster]

I'll be interested to see what direction the channel goes in in terms of the type of content once Orville and Disco are both finished with for most of a year. I can't speak for others but unless the Eaglemoss magazines & models / art or technical books etc add a lot of new info - after Jan 2018 - I think Disco needs a bit of a rest on this channel - it was all getting a bit to much for me - and i'm not even a strict "hater" of said show. Heck I'd not mind if you go nuts of Star Wars for a bit - as despite me not liking Disney Star Wars much (conceptually) it would be a change from Discovery at least. Also with Babylon 5 being shown ever week day on UK tv - that is on my mind a lot lately too and so that would be welcomed too - content wise - at least as much as doing one ship from each of the major races and the station itself. I see you get Mass Effect request still too. Halo is something you've not done for a while either. Not to mention you've still not done the Trardis yet. I'm not trying to be bitchy or anything i'm just saying there is places to go (better places) at least until firmer info on Discovery's background ships is available (post feb 2018) I expect you to keep squeezing that lemon for a another few weeks or so in jan 2018 - sure but I hope (and I suspect a lot of other viewers too) really would welcome a break from it after that. I have Disco fatigue

[@jesse33cdn]

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