Trekyards EP97 - Vorcha Class

[@stevenkuski5916]

When I was 12 I got a Vor'Cha model kit for christmas. It was the first model I ever built. I hung it from the ceiling over my bed.

[@cliffcampbell8827]

I purchased this ship as a toy back in the 90's. It had a weird light aqua color and 3 buttons along the top that, when pushed, made three different sounds (cloak, disruptors and torpedo I think). I gave it to my nephew. He would hold it by the nacelles like he was searching for water and run all over the place with it.

[@seanoneill9606]

The Imperial Yacht might be for ceremonial purposes. A grand arrival for a returning hero from war perhaps.

[@poseidon5003]

This ship is bad ass. A solid Klingon warship design.

[@CLAIR.L]

this is my favourite Klingon ship I love the design

[@andrewhopkins1010]

I seem to recall during the last Deep Space Nine story arc, the Koraga (the BOP that Worf commanded that was destroyed) had escape pods that were being recovered.

[@UncleScorch]

Great vid - enjoy all of these immensely. In time this design has grown on me, although I wasn’t the biggest fan in relation to the D7/K’t’inga for many years.

[@Vapor413]

I loved this ship the first time I saw it. Just an intimidating design with the massive front disruptor.

[@stevenewman1393]

🖖😎👍Very cool looking a very nice and beautiful looking Klingon battle ship indeed, You guys as always have done a very good job on informatively explaining and executing everything about this vessel indeed 👌...

[@briannaftail0014]

This is my Favorite Klingon Warship. I always thought yellow grilled on the front were Deflectors

[@ckos1978]

So easily identifiable as a Klingon Warship. Designed for battle and toughness, it's the Vorcha!!! The ship just screams "tough" when you look at it. Minimal window ports, nacelles that look much more armored then Federation styles, and a huge main disruptor at the front, you know the ship has one purpose if you bump into it in deep space. I would love to know the hull strength compared to a standard Federation ship of the era. Great briefing!!!

[@MrMartechi]

One of my favorite ship designs for sure! I love the klingon aesthetic that somewhat resembles the D7, together with a more distinguished look and colour compared to what we saw in the original series. At least to me it seems to show more character. What I most liked about this ships appearance in TNG and later on is, that it really showed that klingons are not just "stupid" space warriors that don't care about anything but honor due combat. They are a space faring civilization that is technological advanced and is capable of researching, designing and building new ships. They are not dependend on trading technology like the ferengi and they don't keep the same designs for decades because they *have* to, but because an earlier change wasn't nescessary.

[@KertaDrake]

Following all along the EPS lines are the Blood Wine Lines, and just like there are EPS taps for every console, there are blood wine taps at every console!

[@hansebee]

as you mentioned at 16:45 there is yellow back-lit grilling on the top and on the bottom of the CGI and also the real model. If the lower one is the main deflector, the upper one is in exactely the perfect spot for a deflector once the "turret" or disruptor pod separates... so I say deflectors! :-) I should mention that on my 1991 issue AMT model kit of this ship, the bright yellow things attached to the outer rear wings are supposed to be disruptor banks according to the build plans... if the color scheme is indeed yellow for weapon port (like on the TMP starships), then the bright yellow strips lining the outer walls of the forward disruptor head module could be 6 disruptor (hatches?) on each side 8-/ ...or maybe AMT ERTL kit assembly guides are not entirely canon xD

[@Carwyn.Morris]

I like the Vor'cha its a good successor to the D-7

[@constillation]

Great rundown, new viewer here. Some things I would like to add (did not read all comments so sorry if i repeat): 1) I have only seen this listed as an assault cruiser meaning it is going to hit hard and fast. 2) in earth navy ships you have torpedo launchers with X tubes per launcher, this being said if you have 2 fore one aft launcher with 3 tubes per launcher that would make sense for a ship set up like this. finally I would like to point out that the raised bits in the armor could hid escape pods

[@bluemagus2424]

originally according to the model i had when i was a kid had the front sections was meant to detach as an orbital disruptor. it was about the size of the enterprise saucer section.

[@DrayseSchneider]

Perhaps there are very good engineering reasons why the vessel isn't covered in armaments. For example power to support not only the firing of the weapons but their heating and cooling cycles while providing thrust for locomotion, the shielding, the central computer and life support for the crew.

[@weirdguy564]

The bow bit is a detachable pod, with different versions for different tasks. I've seen an ECM pod, and a fighter hangar pod, but all we ever see is the weapon pod, because...Klingons.

[@markplott4820]

+weirdguy564 according to FASA its a weapons modjule and a tracter beam emitter. similar to Galor class but reverced.

[@ChrissonatorOFL]

Seeing it remastered in TNG makes me want DS9 even more, because it's seen quite a lot in DS9.

[@eldergroan]

the forward section is designed to be exchanged with mission-specific variants. on the model kit of this ship the forward disruptor module was detachable.

[@jamesmagill5433]

It is a good day to....watch Trekyards

[@VERTHASAMVS]

The ship could have a lot of shuttles for boarding parties. It's harder to fight your enemies if you have a metric butt-ton of klingons wrecking your ship from the inside. We know that klingons are fans of boarding things that don't belong to them such as DS9, so it might make sense that the new Attack Cruiser would come with boarding parties. If I remember correctly, boarding shuttles was also the special power of the Vorcha in Star Trek Armada.

[@Intrepidthegenuine]

I was thinking that perhaps the detachable portion on the front could be replaced with different modules depending on mission type. I could easily see that they could attach a troop carrier to the front that could land warriors on a planet where the transporters aren't a viable option. They could even have used it to transport space station modules to conquered worlds for orbital construction. I love the Vorcha class it looks balanced and mean.

[@shinjofox]

It is more likely that the different disruptors cover the ship at different angles providing a full 720 degree sphere of fire around the ship. This would mean you never have more than 5 or 6 firing in a given instance or at a single given target, maybe less than that.

[@dropdead234]

Reading one of the interviews with the designer, the bow was designed to be a replaceable pod. One type was a Macross-style cannon...

[@lincolnnoronha4128]

Anyone knows who takes bets on the Targ pit?

[@thomascarpenter8177]

I remember when I first saw it on the Next Generation, the funny thing was I was just complaining the week before that all we saw was just Klingon bird of prey all the time.

[@markplott4820]

+Thomas Carpenter which one there like three sizes of Bird of Prey.

[@thomascarpenter8177]

+Mark Plott exactly, need a scout.small bop,need a cruiser. med bop, need a scary Klingon ship, galaxy size bop...now this was when the next gen was fresh and new, we joked that every ship in the Klingon fleet was some sort of bop ☺

[@TwistedSisterHaratiofales]

+Mark Plott They were really bad in the shows and movies about using the bird of prey and sizing it way out of scale, and also using them for like over 100 years in the story line. In yesterdays Enterprise they use 3 and call them like a bigger class of cruiser. They just up scaled the BOPs to like a size that would have been 5 to 7 times the size of the original. The other classic example is the one that faced the Enterprise that Kirk destroys in the Search for Spock. The BOP is shown on the other side of the Enterprise and appears to be the same size. In the Undiscovered country they show a shot of a BOP besides the Enterprise-A from above that is basically in scale proportion and the Bop is 5 times smaller than the E. So it comes down to the director, the story, the way they want it to appear at the time. I wish as You it sounds like that they would have took some time earlier and designed some new ships for the Klingons in the story, instead of using BOPs and Ktinga's for a century, and the sizing tricks.

[@markplott4820]

Mabye the Bird of Prey uses mass shifting in addition to a cloaking device .

[@TwistedSisterHaratiofales]

LOL yea might be. I think they were just in a hurry and didn't want to build new models.

[@dropdead234]

One reason klingon ships have so many disruptors, is they don't have the equivalent of phaser rings.

[@carlnieckarz2718]

Awesome episode guys, long live the empire!

[@ethanforster]

This and the Negh'Var are my fave Klingon ships

[@Lokiawa]

👍

[@colleenjin8794]

My favourite Klingon ship is the Bird of Prey

[@AlbertoMartinez765]

YES thse are so Badd Ass looking , some of the best ships to ever show up in TNG

[@Ample17]

Skyla Jade Forster nothing like a B'rel or K'vort class if you ask me :)

[@Demobot1]

Wasn't the Vorcha class built in response to the Ambassador Class not the Galaxy Class.

[@jamesbielby3491]

+Walter Payne According to the Star Trek Encyclopedia, the Vor'cha was built in response to the new and getting larger ships from both the Federation and Romulans

[@p.herrmann4538]

the vorcha is by far my fav klingon ship....

[@DasJager13]

There is an Episode of DS9 where Worf tells Jadzia that Klingon ships do not have escape pods.

[@1300l]

I think a Klingon ship with escape pods is a Ship without honnor ;)

[@xavierprotocols]

+1300l If you really think about it using a cloaking device is dishonorable

[@FollowedGaming]

+xavierprotocols I have always thought that.

[@LowellMorgan]

xavierprotocols if you really think about it, using a projectile weapon is dishonorable.

[@JeffIrok]

I always liked this ship!

[@saijex]

Not sure if either is real cannon, but the Negh'Var had I believe 20 disruptors, meaning it only had 2 more than the Vorcha. That makes the Vorcha more impressive and the Negh'var less. I agree with Samuel, it'd be nice to see the Vorcha in a proper battle. It always seemed the Vorcha was all bark and no bite.

[@rarevhsuploads4995]

I finally know the difference between the a D7 & K'Tinga class. Thanks guys, I've always mixed those two up.

[@larqven0192]

It might be that the forward disruptor module for the Vorcha separates due to the possibility of secondary explosions? Also, with the main gun and many if not most of the secondary guns on it, it might have its own antimatter reactor so as to keep those guns recharged? Another reason for a need to separate the module?Plus, of course, a need to upgrade weapons would allow a new module to replace the old without redesigning the whole ship.

[@terrypalmore7314]

I like this ship. very mean looking. Probably has the new Polaron Torpedo! Next to the Gok is Federation balls.....

[@zali13]

How does it measure up against a Romulan D'deridex?

[@NeovenatorRex]

Vor'Cha = ~480 meters D'Deridex = ~1041-1340 meters

[@aaroncortright9860]

I personally love the Vor'cha class but my favorite is the Negh'Tev class.

[@isfj1009]

I really like this ship.

[@TwistedSisterHaratiofales]

I never imagined the Klingons to be Stupid, or per se Ignorant as a race, however they do portray them in the show to be not concerned about important things at times. Worf is portrayed as highly intelligent, but having to be verbally restrained a lot in TNG, until DS9 where he seems to learn more control over anger issues. Where am I going with this. I think it would be interesting to show a Klingon who is an engineer, and or a ship designer, or group of designers who are somewhat humbled slightly looked down upon members of the Klingon Empire. They are the Geeks and Nerds of the Empire, and along with medical personnel, and or merchants, cooks, and other professions that anyone else would need and commend. The Klingons would need these people also, but treat them almost as second hand citizens unless they were preforming those tasks and also were Warriors at the same time. This would also make problems because You cant have your best scientists, and Ship designers getting killed off. I do like the way with the Cardasians, and Klingons that the ships look bulky, and even Star Wars Junky on the outside as a reflection of their cultures. I do get a hair of seeing the Cardasian ships all looking like that emblem of their empire, as if someone ordered the ship designers to make the ships that way and just keep using the same exact design, but make it bigger. I would like to see almost a Klingon design in the Cardasian ship upgrade from when Ducat stole the Bird of Prey.Anyway I think the Cardasians would have had just a little more respect for the alternate jobs then the Klingons. I do think the Klingon ships no matter how large they become would always somewhat look like they made something from a big junk yard except when the first D7 came out because it was all smooth on the outside. I really liked the Ktinga also, but I think after that they worked to hard to make them look Klingon. They did well, but I think they could have varied the designs a bit more. Star Fleet ships all seem to scream Star Fleet yet they all don't look like the TOS Enterprise.

[@mattwho81]

The Klingons are a warrior culture like feudal japan, warriors are honoured and dominate government and politics but not everybody is a warrior. DS9 did a far better job at showing this than TNG, we saw Klingon chefs, lawyers spies, merchants and criminals

[@Darth_Nycta_13]

Could you guys do the vorkang?

[@corm7538]

I love this ship! Anyone know if there are any models or toys of this ship that are 10 inches long or bigger? All the models and toys I see online are about the same size as the model Sam holds in his in this video.

[@markusweiner4432]

I think the creators of the ship wanted it to be a hybrid between Klingon and Federation.

[@markplott4820]

+Markus Weißner in FASA it was. Ref : Next Gen officers manual.

[@TheCastellan]

I think K'mpec's ship was the first one.

[@BrotherDerrick3X]

I guess K'mpec's ship was the IKS Vorcha.

[@kurumais]

i freaking love this ship

[@mikefuson5667]

hey can you do a video on the Constellation class ship?

[@power543]

+mike fuson yes!

[@NeovenatorRex]

Best Klingon Ship, only the D'Deridex is a bette looking Alien Ship in my Opinion.

[@tedsheckler100]

Wait...this thing has 3 warp cores? One on each wing and one in the middle? How could Gowron ever lose with one of these?

[@brokedude9999]

It would be unreasonable to assume any Kilingon Ship wouldn't have escape pods. Space isn't always a battle ground, yet it is still dangerous. The Sub-Space Filament episode being an example. (Data had his head removed to fix the warp core) Warriors that die in Battle is an honorable Death. Dying because space is a bitch- isn't honorable. Those Warriors being able to egress and provide better service/ glory later is only fitting with the Lore of these people.

[@analysisofscifi6051]

i always like this ship

[@positronicfeed]

I can see the traditional Klingon aesthetic here but why oh why oh why does it have an escargot fork at the bow?

[@ChrissonatorOFL]

Escape pods on a Klingon ship? xD

[@TwistedSisterHaratiofales]

+Chris Cunningham The escape pods are because they don't have toilet facilities on board Klingon ships. They use the escape pods to fill up with bodily waste until its full and then they jettison them into space. If they are in a battle with an enemy they deem un honorable, they launch the pods at the enemy ships, to splatter on their hulls. And if they do have a member of their crew who is so cowardice that they choose to flee in the face of death, then they have to be immersed in the crap so to speak until captured or rescued.

[@_Muzolf]

Thats a good one. I would have just assumed they are not as much escape pods as the poor Klingons boarding shuttle.

[@Carwyn.Morris]

in general I really do enjoy these videos but I do think you need to get another person or 2 to add to the analysis just to get more points of view in as sam's thoughts generally come down to how many weapons its got. Give him a giant cannon with warp engines and he'll be locked in his bedroom for a month.

[@baltic1284]

Do you guys do fan made ships made off of other ships and such cause I got 3 of theme based on the D'deridex only images I cant do 3d stuff terrible at it.

[@donaldhill3823]

Crew of 450 works if maybe that did not include troupe carrying capacity.

[@3142mn]

when are you guys going to do STO ships???

[@Trekyardswebseries]

Just filmed a bunch of STO mission briefings this week. Be patient. It's soon. Soon. Soon.....

[@foilist1]

The Vor'cha was to be a updated version of K'tinga / D7. It has stylistic cues of the Ktinga/D7 reminding viewers of the older Klingon ships. I like it. But I think it looks too bare bones, too lean to be mean.

[@fhsreelfilms]

This is such a cool ship, and I was disappointed it did so poorly against the birds of prey in Redemption, Part I. It would have been great to see this more and maybe a little less of the BOP which, while cool and iconic, was a little over-used.

[@sciguyjeff]

I remember first seeing this in action when Gowron was going to be installed and they had to fight off the Durass sister's allies. Worf was on board trying to get his family honored restored when they were fired upon. They fired the main "cannon" and I was very disappointed with that lightning ball thingy that shot out. NOT impressive. Had that been like the Galaxy X main cannon, then you would have something. I think the Vorcha was like a Galaxy class vessel when it came to be shown in battle. Big but disappointing in power.

[@hypertion]

ahh... the fork.

[@dazzo7752]

sans nacelles thats a backwards galor class

[@clintonthackery9640]

excalibur class

[@fhilbo1701]

The Vor'Cha is a tasty ship. To me it is a worthy and badass heir to the D-7/ K'tinga asthetic. I dislike the Negh'Var. It's like a warp capable piece of space barf.

[@alberttetley]

Klingon ships do not have escape pods they rather go down with there ship. Even though the TV show Enterprise say they do which is not really part of Star Trek history so what do they know. memory-alpha.wikia.com/wiki/Klingon_escape_pod_(22nd_century)

[@TwistedSisterHaratiofales]

+Alan Greenman I explain the Escape pods in the design to Mr. Cunningham further up.

[@MrRandomcommentguy]

I doubt Klingon ships even have escape pods...

[@flatheadgg2443]

it's a klingon/federation hybrid buut anyway escape pods on klingon vessels are honorless!!!

[@USSEnterpriseA1701]

Yeah, escape pods are not really the Klingon way. I really doubt they have escape pods at all.

[@kevinmcphail5216]

New Orleans class please!

[@foilist1]

That's the trouble with Star Trek. In order to build drama, they don't have the crew rely on their ship, instead the ship gets its ass kicked by lesser ships, the music can get more dramatic and faster tempo, while Picard tells Data to hurry up and find a solution. The result is that some fans call the Galaxy class ship a white elephant and is too weak to be effective or a serious threat. So it was with the Vor'cha class ship when it was attackedby three birds of prey. Worf had to be clever and aim the disrupters visually not with sensors. So the bird of prey dropped its shields and Worf fired. I do get tired of hanging the ship with poor weapons or poor design. Sometime the ship needs to come the hero.

[@Zero8880]

That is what the Defiant was for. The Defiant was a Hero ship in every sense of the word. That little beauty tore through everything in front of it!!

[@foilist1]

But Roddenberry said the Enterprise was a character in the show and insisted that it was not dramatically changed. The TOS Enterprise was rarely weak. It was as much a hero as Bill Shatner (oops! Sorry Bill but I think the Enterprise is a better actor than you ! :- D ).

[@Ample17]

foilist1 khaaaaaaaannnn!!!!

[@johnmuller7628]

Klingon escape pods? Really ?

[@TwistedSisterHaratiofales]

+john muller I explain this in an above statement.

[@foilist1]

Whatever happened to "It is a good day to die!"

[@Lokiawa]

nuqneH and Qapla!

[@thehillbillygamer2183]

this ship was first introduced Dvorak class Heavy Cruiser was first introduced when it brought Chancellor compact not going to die before I got one that sold Chancellor that go on door as it was fighting over who was going to replace him and the card had to decide because they become Arbiter of succession and it was between gal Ron and Doris and it was so compact it was the old Chancellor or the old hot head of the High Council they called it then and yes he heard he was coming up which are class Heavy Cruiser and also under arrest showed up in the board shop class Heavy Cruiser and I think Karen showed up in a bird of prey you look bored I think the bigger bird of prey you always like to voice our class Heavy Cruiser always one to see it go toe-to-toe with the Galaxy class which the new series I was coming out will be a cling-on series always thought it'd be great to have a Klingon series or a Klingon independent movie even you know like that Klingon independent movie could start out you know during the ancient times during the Hearth Invasion or the hurricane evasion and that's how the Klingons first got spaceflight technology before the hurricane they was only maybe early 20th century level technology maybe meet with maybe nineteen fifties or sixties technology in the Hurrican baited their world and westair and the Hearth author World they took some of their ships reverse engineer it and then they got their first impulse ships and then they all that started to clean on Empire bicycle and then it would follow through the 22nd century maybe the 23rd I like to see some of the 6 months of war with the Federation I mean apparently there was Klingon troops boarding Federation starships and cutting the heads off Federation captains and we learned about this and Deep Space Nine that showed none of that would have been really cool to see like a sister we give voice commands to find gold in the go fight the Klingons you know where I put it like that always thought we made a mistake tell if I would have been more if I would have joined that go on during the invasion of cardassia but I would have wanted my own Voyager Class Heavy Cruiser minimum to be the captain up in the Cleveland defense was that would have been my prize at least one of my own of which are class Heavy Cruiser Ship by The Biltmore

[@squidman22]

The English mumble.

[@marcelpavlik7976]

i don't like Klingons

[@BrotherDerrick3X]

Marcello Pavlo no one gives a flying fuck.