Operator Cults: Battle Rifles

Another episode of operator cults where I discuss the pros and cons of the battle rifle. Sit back and relax and let me know what you think down in the comment section below. If you want to support the channel please consider becoming a member of the Patreon. It is the only way to join our closed community server on discord.
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[@Dacarolinakrown]

I'm just here for support shotgun cult all day 💯💯💯

[@trench_grenade]

Nice

[@sirfer69]

I’m 22lr plinkster cult 🤓

[@davidoftheforest]

​@@sirfer69 standard ammunition load: 1000 rounds 😂

[@adammcallister9675]

SHOTGUN SHOTGUN SHOTGUN SHOTGUN

[@pattersonlax48]

My battle rifle is 1861 Springfield Rifled Musket. Nothing makes you feel more masculine. Showing up to the range in full kit and packing that powder baby.

[@senpaisavior6125]

you're 100% right about battle rifles but i will use a fal anyway because I will live by the larp and die by the larp.

[@trench_grenade]

Lol

[@kevinbrown3316]

Im gonna rock my AR15 or my AR10 depending on the situation. I mainly got the AR10 for those deer with the Kevlar vests I keep hearing about....

[@brokenarrow9772]

DSA SA58 ❤

[@kingferguson1]

I mean there's nothing wrong with being a FAL guy, right? ......Right? Asking for a friend, of course.

[@trench_grenade]

Oof

[@sullathehutt7720]

My "battle rifle crush" was the CETME/G3... Until I got one lol. I also had a FAL for a little while. It was a fun range toy, but not practical for life & death shit. There's a reason everybody ditched .308 and went to intermediate cartridges. Rhodesia lost the war anyway. 😋 🇿🇼 #JustGetAnAK

[@trench_grenade]

Yep

[@s1xiv93]

SOCOM 16 CQB But AR15 was and still is my go to SHTF gun. Just rocking SOCOM 16 right now because I’m hiking where bear and big game are prevalent and this is what I’ve got for now. 45-70 most likely to come in my future.

[@AngryGunNut11]

Scar 17 is my true love. Still use an AR more often as it’s what I’ve trained with most from LE & 11B time. 5.56 is much cheaper anyhow.

[@TexasSurplusPro]

I’m a G3 Simp all day.

[@philliplopez1501]

I could see a use for a battle rifle for the lone civilian... anti-material hit and run operations. But as a lone gunman you better be really good at running.

[@jackdaicole7595]

Let them chase you all those ieds waiting for them! Lol😅

[@CIVILDEFENSEBUNKER]

You sound like that Canadian guy deadpools friend the bar tender. Cool video just messing with you. Love the duo with risky.

[@madmenenist1464]

Draco pistol with a promag and a 9mm hi point with a pack of newports

[@trench_grenade]

Lol

[@donsapunk]

Naw Kel TEC sub2k with a shockwave as a sidearm and a pack of lucky strikes , one white claw mango.

[@madmenenist1464]

@@donsapunk nah a bud light with a dildo and a snub nose .38 with 1 bullet

[@binostunts]

This

[@donsapunk]

I love my cetme c308. Got it in 2019 when the magazines were only $3 . I would highly recommend buying extra trigger springs.

[@asphal.t]

Bro is putting out great content at an ALARMING rate

[@trench_grenade]

I’m tired boss. Share it

[@Jj-1924]

Love me some .308’s. Don’t disagree with any of your points, still fun to run on occasion.

[@trench_grenade]

Yes

[@Jj-1924]

Also, 1 hit target neutralization in 3 gun is a plus 😎. Heavy metal class.

[@freedomseeds8194]

I had an FAL, I never had more magazine issues with any other gun. You're spot on with that. Not a fan of a lot of other battle rifle platforms. I've been through several. I currently only own one battle rifle, that's a Zastava M77 .308 AK. It's a bad ass gun, but it's heavy. I live in the mountains, a little over 5,500 feet above sea level. With a full load out, a battle rifle ends up being between 25% to a third more weight, with a third less ammo. You may not notice the weight so much on a flat range, but the second you start rucking in the mountains you notice it. I'm in good shape, PT 5 times a week minimum with daily hikes. It still would not be my go to rifle, and I know I'm in better shape than 90+% of the population.

[@kennywolfjr.6413]

The mountains are the great equalizer. The only rifle I've ever enjoyed rucking with in the mountains was my M&P 15-22. Shit is light as fuck. Other than that, all of them cause that pain.

[@freedomseeds8194]

@@kennywolfjr.6413 The mountains are murderous, they show no mercy. A lot of people think they're in good shape at sea level, and they start sucking wind and trying to shed weight when they get into the mountains.

[@kennywolfjr.6413]

@@freedomseeds8194 absolutely. I'm not even in the super bad mountains, I'm in Appalachia, and they still whoop ass.

[@freedomseeds8194]

@@kennywolfjr.6413 I'm in northern Arizona, my backyard (literally) is one of the best elk hunting units in the country. I'm 50 miles away from the nearest town. It's a pretty rugged area, and heavily wooded, not what people typically think of when they think about Arizona. I bought 40 acres, I have my own shooting range. I also have a 2 mile long canyon in the mountains behind my property where I setup targets for longer range shooting with my 7mm RUM.

[@kennywolfjr.6413]

@@freedomseeds8194 that sounds absolutely wonderful

[@DJTheMetalheadMercenary]

I love my FAL, but it would be my last resort choice after my SR556 or zpap M70. Still love it though, fun as hell to shoot.

[@trench_grenade]

Fal heavy

[@DJTheMetalheadMercenary]

@@trench_grenade Only 9lbs. loaded lol, but you ain't wrong 😁

[@Peacekeeper01A]

Great talking points Trench. When it comes to the idea of running a battle rifle, I do have a few thoughts. In some regions, such as agricultural areas (where I'm originally from), most of the locals own what the DNR and others refer to as "High Powered Rifles". One of the most common cartridges in areas like that is .308, and as a result, AR10's are reasonably common. Agricultural areas are typically very open, with not much cover, save for terraces, creeks, ocassional wooded patches, ponds for livestock, and the increased ranges offered by a battle rifle such as an AR10 are appealing. Hunting rounds can be fired through those rifles without very much fine tuning(if any, depending on the rifle) and several of them also can fire 7.62 NATO safely, in addition to .308 Win. With the upcoming transition for the Military, there is also a lot of modern surplus M80 ball available, so a battle rifle is one tool that I do have in the box, and while it is expensive to train with, I still do. Just so happens, mine doesn't mind steel cased ammo. But, that same can not be said of all rifles. Keep the good content coming! Edit: I also have to add, that low round count drills are helpful when training on a budget. I commonly run 5 round magazines to get that reloading practice in. 5 of 5 rounds into a target 4 times in a row is the same as 20 rounds in one mag. Load up a full kit, weigh it on a scale, write down the numbers, train with the same weight in the gym. Load up your kit or a weighted training vest and a pack, go hiking.

[@MagicPrepper]

I started with battle rifles because California gun laws. M1A's werent neutered besides the 10 round magazines. I traded out my Sig 716i bevause of most of the reasons you addressed. Heavy, couldnt afford the ammo to train with it enough to actually get good and i wasnt a good enough marksman to justify it. My PT at this time is the best its ever been. Im 6'3 & 200lbs and its still heavy. I might try it again one day as my environment is extremely vast and wide open. But for now my 5.56 carbine is a better option for my abilities.

[@samuelkuntz3393]

My first rifle was a M1A, great gun but definitely hard to train with

[@MagicPrepper]

@@samuelkuntz3393 exactly

[@theimmortal4718]

Youre braver than i am. I shut my channel down with the current climate, as im currently serving as well

[@trench_grenade]

Happens

[@ericbergfield6451]

I'm just now realizing that you wear your helmet in every video, & it never comes off... That's gotta be a pain to wear, granted I have zero helmet wearing experience.

[@trench_grenade]

Ops core

[@theimmortal4718]

You get so used to it, sometimes you forget you have it on

[@memorablemetic8964]

FAL owner here. I fell in love with that rifle, when I began reading the history of Southern Africa (ifykyk), during the Cold War and something about it spoke to me. I then saw one for sale locally and for a steal of a deal, so I bought it. You're right on the magazines and gas block settings for the type of ammo, and that came as a shock to me and then my journey with this platform began. Is it the biggest hunk of shit that I own? Yes. Do I still love it dearly and refuse to get rid of it? Yes.

[@rufusherman412]

I dissagree and agree. Its expensive and you cant be a bitch, but if i lived out west or open terrain i would definitely invest in one

[@Goldenwithaleash]

I own two but they’re definitely not my “go to” fighting rifle for most of the reasons discussed. That would be my 14.5” AR15. M1A Scout Squad 18” and Daniel Defense DD5V3 16” both in .308/7.62x51. Both have medium power variable scopes and the DD has a piggyback red dot. I mostly got them for fun and hunting so I can’t say i was tricked. Only role in SHTF I could see them filing would be in static defense where weight doesn’t matter (ex: manning road block into a neighborhood).

[@Hippity_hoppity192]

AR15 chambered in 6.5 grendel. It functions as my hunting rifle as well

[@hughgrection3052]

Yeah they don't make alot of sense if you're the side that's on foot and having to take the fight to the enemy. If your the "enemy" and don't have to do such thing you can afford to exist in the 30 cal imo. If youre not humping it around you have no real reason not to have the ability to out reach the aggressors, while also having a little side benefit of even being able to stop some vehicles etc too. So yeah I say they have thier uses for sure. I don't plan to be kicking doors as taking the fight to anyone, and if I can keep the enemy pinned down out past thier ability to fight back effectively I'll do it. So I think the debate should lean to if you're attacking or defending firstly. Then let that dictate the rest?

[@callsigncoyote7931]

I’m probably gonna still stick with my AR10, I’ve practiced with it more than my 15, and I have a squad of 8 with regular AR’s and AK’s. Plus I used to be a 240 gunner so I’m used to the weight.

[@santanagamingcinema]

I have 2 battle rifles 1. Sig MCX Spear 7.62x51 is my new battle rifle. I am running it with a; Elcan Spectre DR 1.5-6X, UTG offset red dot, Cloud Defensive Rein 3.0 light, Strike Industries angled grip and SureFire SOCOM 3 prong flash hider. 2. FN Scar 17S is my main. O learned to shoot on it. I run the Elcan Spectre DR 1-4x, SureFire M600 light, Daniel Defense verticle foregrip and AAC Blackout 51T Miter flash hider. Hey bro I really wish I could pick your brain on this. What is my role as the guy running a battle rifle? And what training specifically should I be focusing on to fill that role. I have never served in the military so I dont know. But I am 10 toes down a battle rifle guy. I put the money into these setups and some training as well but I need a lot more. I dont want to be a liability to a team of guys like you said.

[@binostunts]

Nice setup on both! I’d imagine the value add for someone running a battle rifle would be engaging targets at an extended range and engaging targets behind cover/barriers/vehicles etc.

[@santanagamingcinema]

@@binostunts would I be more in a support role for others running 5.56 rifles? Do I hang back more or less until I am needed for those extended ranges or barrier penetration?

[@Didymus-vz6uy]

HK G3. Personally, I've used a C308 with no issues, but it is a later model that was produced by PTR for Century Arms

[@trench_grenade]

Ok

[@WastelandArmorer]

Switched from ar15 to m1 garand. Never looking back (did also get an Ak later for kicks).

[@BuckFoeJiden]

AR10s have a place. Ive got two in my collection currently. One 20" in .308 Win, and one 26" in .243 Winchester. Are they heavy? Hell yes they're heavy. But you should look at the ballistic data on a 115 gr DTAC moving at 3k fps. If I had to choose a semi auto sniper system, it would 100% be that gun (im resizing .308 brass and hand loading precise charges within 2 100ths of a grain in precision.) The .308 runs 155 grain HPBTs loaded to around 2750 fps. They hit harder, have less drop, and are pushed off target less than windage by a 5.56. In general, they're not the weapons I'd choose to take with me on a foot patrol... but if you're expecting contact with light armor, vehicles or cover... or you're settings up semi-static firing positions in two man teams... definitely. Two AR10s running the same scope with a grid reticle and the same ammo loading turns one shooter and one spotter into two shooters. Spotter observes splash on a first round miss, adjusts his own POA to the spot on the grid where the splash occurs and calls correction while returning fire. Now you have 40 followup rounds (20+1 x 2) with a high precision potential and a dead aim moving down range.

[@Mittens_Gaming]

I have a SOCOM 16 and M1A Scout Squad. Maybe not as practical for battle, but they have both killed Hogs down here in Florida whwn I go hunting. My GTW rifle is a SIG M400 AR15, and practically I think an AR15 is the best GTW rifle for the normal person, but the M1A is a good gun and I wouldn't turn someone away who had one. I so have a Blue Force Gear for my M1As, just in case. An AR15 can be built to shoot 600-900 yards, and serve as the DMR, while having ammo capability with the rest of the team, etc.

[@christianharris7351]

You're basing your FAL opinions on DSA shite. A pre ban FN, FM Argentina, or Imbel will be a very reliable (albeit outdated) rifle

[@robertharper3754]

AMEN! Hell, as long as the receiver isn't bad even the DSA rifles aren't too bad, but their mags still suck.

[@henryc7548]

Regarding PT, Dropping a plate or plates from your armor setup can make up for the rifle and ammo weight and is a perfectly reasonable setup in situations where trading protection for range is useful

[@Didymus-vz6uy]

That's what I was thinking. Ditch a plate, go with a RRV style vest for urban stuff if you still want a BR in urban areas and/or for vehicle based ops. Otherwise, get good LBE. Same goes for any platform.

[@inahurrytooften3121]

Had a SOCOM 16, it was reliable if you chose magazines carefully, but horribly inaccurate, needed extensive work I didn’t feel was worth doing. Got a couple Sig 716i’s, they work excellent. Prefer 5.56 for what I do.

[@thebootleggers2926]

I agreed with everything you said in this video my current battle rifle is the sig 716i but I bought it for non serious use eventually id like to set it up and run it once its completed. For now the AR-15 is king

[@thecommunistdoggo1008]

I have a Tavor 7, I love the compactness and the penetration power plus I can make hits on man sized targets 70% of the time at 600m (this is because I live in mountainous region, it's extremely wooded and you got to be able to penetrate trees at 500m) even with all that it's mostly just because Canadian gun laws suck and this is the only semi auto .308 under 6k. Though I mostly bought it out of spite since the government plans on taking them all away

[@jeanvaljean341]

Move to Alberta. Make a stand🔫

[@danielgreen6547]

@@jeanvaljean341 Is Alberta a little less strict than the other provinces?

[@jeanvaljean341]

@@danielgreen6547 Alberta is basically Canadian Montana.

[@travelingspartan2035]

Yeah, there's a reason most of us are grabbing 5.56 ARs before anything in .308, or if not it's a bolt-action strictly for hunting. I'm a long way away from getting into a BR/DMR if ever, with a lot more gear and other guns taking higher priority for me.

[@clamum9648]

Haven't fell for a battle rifle cause I don't even have one fml. I have a couple full power cartridge bolt actions and semis (M48 Mauser, Garand, Mosin lol) but don't have a semi "battle rifle." Would like to get some sort of AR-10 for applications where its range is needed but I wouldn't use it as my GTW rifle.

[@Baby_Brotha]

Trench grenade would kick @administrativeresults ass tag admin if you agree

[@trench_grenade]

Oh no

[@elijahdowns6142]

Something I’ve noticed that’s prevalent in these kinds of communities is the notion that becuase these guns use a full power round -they are therefore more accurate than 5.56 AR15 or 7.62 AK. They absolutely are not. Maybe an AR10 built with quality parts but FALs ? No sir. Besides that having heavier guns and having more perceived recoil and less ability to carry ammo, you’re really really outclassed by the average Joe Schmoe with an AR.

[@BrightEyeSecurity]

My thought process was always 5.56 for semi-rifles, 308 or 30-06 with a bolt gun, and a 9mm sidearm. I know you can build "sniper" semi-auto builds, but the bang for the buck is not there for me. Especially when it comes to part transfers between the different manufacturers.

[@walkie870]

home defense sr25

[@lithium1770]

nice keep pumping out content.

[@trench_grenade]

Here we go

[@thesasszilla38]

National match EBR is fun to hump up here in the rockies if you run a battle rifle, make sure you can carry a full load, uphill, at 8500 ft of elevation for 10+ miles without stopping

[@trench_grenade]

They can’t

[@126theman]

M1A then FAL. Till I learned one can’t stay clean and the other can’t shoot sub 5MOA

[@trench_grenade]

True

[@sullathehutt7720]

My FAL was about 3 MOA with M80 ball. That wasn't a big deal to me. What was a much bigger problem was the goddamn length of that thing. The Rhodesians, Australians, etc were at a HUGE disadvantage in the bush up against AKs. Which is part of the reason they lost. 🤷

[@nohandle74]

Scar 17 , I never shoot it cause I love running Aks

[@trench_grenade]

Scar based

[@tdel8613]

We had a guy running an 8 inch PTR .308 at my local IDPA 2 gun match. I got a kick out of that.

[@gregoreisenhorn2353]

Love the content, grats on the 10k.

[@tamadrummer001]

My main fear of today is that I cannot operate in the heat like I could years ago. I had to have 2 heart catheterizations for a congenital defect called WPW and ever since I get overheated and sick way too easy. We train and go outside “camping/hiking” regularly but I haven’t carried a battle load out ever in my life. I was in the boiler room on a ship in the navy. I am Slowly getting my gear together for a full battle load out but i ultimately believe I’m going to have to hole up in my home and go down that way. It pretty frightening to think about

[@BuckFoeJiden]

All you really need is a good radio, a rifle and 6-7 mags on your person with 3-5 more in your pack. Keep an IFAK on you, food, water and a few basic tools. If you're on foot and you're outside of your home or not actively seeking out a fight (you shouldn't be, save for a red dawn scenario) you don't need plates or a ballistic helmet. They'll just slow you down. Get a good bump helmet or other lightweight NOD mounting option if you want to run night vision. The golden rule of moving on foot is ounces make pounds, and pounds make pain. Get out and keep moving man. Don't go past what your heart can handle, obviously, but shedding sweat now means you'll lose less blood later.

[@tamadrummer001]

@@BuckFoeJiden amen man. Thanks 🙏🏻

[@leroy3784]

Aero Ar10 with a faxon 18" 308, adj gas block, VG6 break, slr bcg, magpul A2 stock, hyperfire duty trigger, Odin 02 rail, bravo grip, sporting arken 2-12, and Harris bipod. Roughly 1.2- 2" @ 100m constantly. Its heavy and big, im short and stong. It has around 500 over 2 years cuz $. Doesnt hold on last rnd with Hornaday hunting 168g... but shoots all other rounds fine after the gas block was tuned. Id rather run my 16" ar15 1-6x24. Unless reasons. Its more of my long distance rifle that looks tactical and it scratches my sniper itch.

[@trench_grenade]

Oof

[@leroy3784]

@@trench_grenade lol

[@TerranPlanetaryDefenseForce]

Have an M14 Can confirm is garbo Works fine as a light barrier support weapon though

[@trench_grenade]

Lol

[@shredmunds7660]

One of the biggest issues with the FAL is the vast majority of rifles in country are kit builds made by questionable companies and many times on shit receivers, I include DSA as being shit for at least the last 12 years. Many magazine issues are related to DSA manufactured magazines, you only want to use NATO surplus magazines. I wouldn't advise anyone to get an FAL in 2023 outside of collecting, to get a good one you will be in pretty close to what you could get an LMT AR 10 or for just a little more a SCAR. The FAL does make a nice home defense weapon the extra weight doesn't matter when you are only going across the living room and when done up in Rhodesian camo it just screams "Get off my fucking lawn!"

[@shannonmarcantel7993]

SCAR 17 for me…relatively light and smooth recoil. I did change the gas jet to smooth out the recoil with my can.

[@trench_grenade]

Nice

[@ethanbarnes3973]

20in ar 15 is big dad stats

[@trench_grenade]

Nice

[@Dwilson1282]

they should make battle rifles in God’s caliber: 45 ACP- if they want stopping POWAH

[@trench_grenade]

Oh no

[@jeffreydommer7147]

I agree mostly however geography is also a consideration. If you live on the great plains, where tree lines are thousands of yards apart or nonexistent you may want more reach. Some Fudd with his pappy's deer rifle may smoke dudes with ARs from outside there effective range. There are good reasons the military is toying with the x5 idea. Do I think the x5 is a better option? Provided the platform is solid sometimes it would be. That would depend on the geography the fight takes place on.

[@brucefortman766]

Just have a shottie😂🎉need an update

[@trench_grenade]

Lol

[@nick_ca]

Very excited for this one.

[@trench_grenade]

Same

[@PaEMT_FF9]

Half a dozen grenades matter.

[@dillondesilva1596]

I fell for the M1A Scout Squad, but realized how heavy it is with a light and optic. Now I'm trying to decide between an AR or AK to run

[@walkercustoms]

AR 10 I fell for. I've got parts for another one yet, but the weight of the rifle itself is a turn off for me.

[@trench_grenade]

lol

[@Thizlamic]

M1A Socom 16 (OD Green) with a Vortex 1x6...I'll never cheat on it.

[@trench_grenade]

Oof

[@32Thomasthetrain]

M1A SOCOM 16 CQB had been my dream rifle since I was like 10 years old and I finally bought one 14 years later. I love it so much that I simply ignore the flaws it has, and how much money I’ve sunk into it just in mags, ammo, and an optic + sadlak mount. It fits my needs as a property defense gun for where I live (way out of city limits on 38 acres of land in the PNW and virtually no neighbors). But if I have to be mobile and fast, yeah I’m grabbing my lightweight AR.

[@jackdaicole7595]

I have a 300 win mag ar and a ar 10 and a 50 bmg ar upper mag fed on a ar15 lower. I should have went with smaller lol 223/556 and 9mm I'm buying those now and aextra 12ga

[@airbornem4030]

Nice shirt, I was in the 1/501 at Ft. Richardson when we were part of the 6th ID. Back in the 90's. Arctic Hellcats!

[@trench_grenade]

Gotcha

[@futuretrunks9100]

I'm fine on grunt duty and just rocking the ar-15 platform, gotta know our limitations, boys! No one needs to be a hero.

[@bryceham95]

fal all day

[@rockymiles7161]

I'm fixing to be 60 and I smoke I pretty much have everything you mentioned I can jog one mile in 20 minutes with 200 rounds and my DD m4 v7 it's my grab first and my HK vp9

[@trench_grenade]

Keep after it

[@Muffffin]

AR10 for me

[@trench_grenade]

Oof

[@Braekker19]

I’m not a big fan of the battle rifle concept personally- though I understand the argument, and it has merit. It just seems like the added weight and decreased ammo capacity isn’t worth it. Especially if you are moving long distances. To me it seems like a person would be best served using .308 (or others) in a rifle with a high power scope, and shooting ranges 150+ yards or greater consistently. Like a recon or spotter role. 🤔

[@circomistocles1464]

Good content. Thanks for showing us the logical and realistic way things should be. I’ll be selling my Tavor 7 now.

[@trench_grenade]

Share it

[@APUSHstudent777]

Great video. I think one thing people should note about the battle rifle is that you need to look at how it was implemented and the gear people were wearing. Most of the people that rock the battle rifle were not wearing body armor. They were wearing chest rigs. People carrying 308 calibers or the nato alternative were carrying very light loads in most instances. And most of us here probably watching this channel are in the average percentile of fitness. Yes your grandfather who had an M1 grand in World War II had a light load and a chest rig and the dudes who used the M14 in Vietnam had a really light flack vest. I think it is safe to say if you are using a battle rifle in an instance of CQB. You have not thought out or prepped properly because the best use case for this weapon system is long distance engagements that are out of the reach of intermediate cartridges.

[@jonbrooks6522]

Always enjoy the content, love them all down to 1 Fal, 1 g3 copy,1 ar 15 in 308 not ar 10 (Pof)

[@ericshovinq]

I have my own opinions, but this is your channel so the comments should be for questions Instead of what is best on assaults and long hikes, what many average citizens want to know is: If you have armed IRS (or pick the alphabet agency of your choice trying to turn the constitution into bathroom wipes) agents behind cars in front of your house (yes, assume it already escalated and the agents saw your stars and bars flag bumper sticker and assumed you were a terrorist or something - this is what they are being trained to see, you see), are you picking up the AR10 or AR15? Let's assume your neighbors do not have your back- pretty good assumption for most. And let's assume at this point that your realistic goal is not to survive (we know what happens in jail- just ask the jan6ers), but to take as many agents with you before they send in the flash grenades with SWAT on your way off planet earth. Another question: Curious why you disparaged the vortex strike eagle?

[@rigger1boponone]

Psa Ks47 gen 2 has been my main gpr. Been putting 60-200ish rounds down range every month for about the last yr. Running 1-6 budget ebay lpvo. Only notable issue I've had was the plastic on the buffer broke about half of it off. Couldn't even tell other than n odd rattle inside the buffer.

[@Dfort_]

Glock cult here 😆

[@trench_grenade]

Nice

[@jeanvaljean341]

I picked up an M1 Garand last year. I walked into a pawnshop with too much money and walked out with the M1. With my purchase, i grabbed 5 bandoleers of m2 ball; a bayonet (shorty) and a steel pot with the vietnam era camo covering. It's not my first choice for a gun fight, But the LARP is real my dudes. 🐸

[@stillshakes5499]

Sig 716i. Running vortex lpvo scope and flip up diagonally canted iron front and rear sights. I have a bipod on it for range use but that would come off in actual field usage.

[@collin3575]

Got the m1a Cqb for use as dmr setup. Suppressed with a lpvo love the gun but she definitely heavy.

[@scaleworksRC]

SOCOM 16 because it's sexy.

[@trench_grenade]

Wasting powder

[@scaleworksRC]

@@trench_grenade I hear ya, and I just found out about some ammo that's specifically made for shorties. I'm going to run that through my shorty 5.56 because the giant fireball says I'm wasting powder there too. 5.56 Nato 75 gr InterLock HD SBR Hornady Black is the way to go I think.

[@fook-joby-den6172]

I got a pof revolution DI. It’s 9.5lbs o mag with acog, offeset dot, light sling& suppressior. That said I use as a dmr not a primary weapon.

[@DDDontCare]

Love POF. I've got their Minuteman in 5.56. one of the smoothest shooting and reliable AR's I have.

[@tristar-tinker_3706]

Shorty scar is still my favorite. 13.5 will send m80 ball to the moon and not be god awfully heavy. With a can your 2 inches longer then a 16” 556. It’s a great side addition to your collection not the end all be all.

[@trench_grenade]

Gotcha

[@angeljjustice1345]

Sage EBR with M1A socom 16 and my Deawoo DR200. And where I live in the woods...not getting anything over 200 yards...most likely my shot would be under 100 yards which is why I went with the M1A and not a bolt action.

[@trench_grenade]

The biggest oof

[@dennis1979gm]

Laugh's in LMT MWS... Lol but your right it's a pig and I wouldn't want to lug that thing for miles.

[@1847thomash]

Spanish CETME C😍

[@twinarrowssurvival.2.065]

I stick woth the AR and AK platforms i do have a 308 bolt gun i love ..

[@nick_ca]

Very nice; the proposition of stretching out in range is alluring with 308 etc., but the weight issues you highlighted are far more relevant than a lot of others like to believe (as you noted). Any thoughts on the viability of stretching a 556 out to 700-800 yds to maintain the standoff potential while keeping the weight and load savings?

[@trench_grenade]

600 max

[@PHIllip324]

If I had the money for it, I'd use a Beretta BM59 as my battle rifle.

[@nightshadefern162]

started with a mini 14, ditched it pretty quickly and built an AR. Minis have so many drawbacks, that one in particular was a bullet tumbler too. Money wasted, but a lesson learned.

[@trench_grenade]

Yep

[@dmcgill8978]

Yeah my ar 308 is 9.3 lbs before optic, sling and loaded mag.

[@trench_grenade]

Not good

[@W-SS]

Please do a review of chest rigs you’d recommend.

[@trench_grenade]

Ok

[@ahmadcampbell2626]

I fell for the Mossburg 590

[@KarlHungus.]

Mossburg?? Gross

[@blainelashley2120]

i have an fal osw, its sick as fuck but i would never take it over an AR.

[@jacobassink6982]

Man puts these out like hip pocket classes 😂

[@jackdaicole7595]

I own a fal it runs good but not my favorite rifle

[@trench_grenade]

It runs good *

[@jackdaicole7595]

@@trench_grenade yep and will be selling it soon to support my bad habits! Lol own a 50 bmg upper mag fed that mounts on ar lower. Putting g a thermal scope on it! Have so far a lot of 50 bmg ammo for it. I carry the 300 win mag ar from bear creek arsenal and a ar10(308). Do to my size a ar15 looks tiny lol. I'm 6ft8 built like a tank...my wife 5ft she uses the ar15 lol

[@AK47s4EveryOne]

I have a Tavor 7. Its a great rifle but, the weaklings cannot handle it. Weight balance is fantastic even with a suppressor. LPVO 1-8x is perfect. The PMAGs never fail. It only had a few light primer strikes on shitty surplus ammo from 1977 but it stopped after the first 100-200 rounds. i agree, weight and low ammo capacity are the significant downsides. I would much rather run an AK-74 variant. but if the squad needs a DMR guy its perfect. Keep up the great videos!!

[@landoftheninja]

The Halo Reach DMR is what got me 😎

[@jackdaicole7595]

24th infantry?

[@trench_grenade]

4/25

[@madmenenist1464]

Though I think the fn fal is super cool I’m gonna keep 308 for bolt actions like my savage

[@trench_grenade]

Fal so heavy