Dealers Can’t Get Rid of These bikes! 2025 Market Crash

[@dadandkids5028]

They (the motor industry) put up prices during the Pandemic, but then never fully lowered prices down again. They got greedy and need to discount aggressively if they are to win back sales.

[@matthewronsson]

Plandemic.

[@TheZanshen]

Totally agree.

[@steampunk888]

Raising prices usually does not mean more profit, because volume will immediately drop. Price rises are occurring because the market for bikes is thinning as enthusiasts age out of the market. The only way for bike makers to recover their costs, over fewer bikes sold, is to have a higher price for each bike. Unfortunately, the price rises cause sales to drop even further, which will then require even more price increases. That means a death spiral for mass-market motorcycles, unless somehow the 20-somethings put down the blue hair-dye, take out the nose rings, and grow a pair. You’re welcome.

[@thinkingimpaired5663]

In California Newsomm artificially created supply chain shortages by not allowing importation of vitals parts into the USA. Plus inflated fuel prices in California raised transport costs, while he banned many diesel trucks.

[@nickoteen3329]

Agree, it’s as if everyone wanted to claw back every penny and more that the lost during the pandemic.

[@clayfarnet970]

I love my BMW RT. I average 30k comfortable miles annually. Do the maintenance on time and they go forever. 👍👍

[@sudhansuranjanmohapatra6429]

Surprisingly, Royal Enfield is incresing it's share in all markets and launching many models at competitive prices .

[@brookegan2945]

I've got the Himalayan 450 and just did a tour in outback Australian. No issues at all. And only $9000 Aus ride away.

[@sudhansuranjanmohapatra6429]

@brookegan2945 This bike has surpassed expectations of all riders and everyone raves about its suspension .Happy riding

[@alswearingen323]

I'm not surprised at all. RE has created a bike culture in India which can only be compared to the HD culture in the US of years gone by. This started at the top with the CEO and goes all the way down to the factory workers. The RE workers take immense pride in their creations, and the rest of the motorcycling world has noticed.

[@BrokeDownBob]

RE sees the market changes in the US and has the right bikes at the right time. Quality motorcycles with lots of accessory's.

[@sudhansuranjanmohapatra6429]

@@BrokeDownBob RE has many variants from 350cc-650cc. It's planning to launch 750 cc bike shortly 😀

[@shermantincher3417]

While I have no hard data just my opinion. I feel that 90% of riders buy a bike as a toy to ride on a nice sunny day when they are off work. I am guessing only about 10% of riders use their bike as a daily commuter. Even less are capable of riding many of these super bikes to their full potential. No one want s to spend that kind of money for something they just want as opposed to something they need!

[@drewtonhouse]

My bike is definitely a toy for enjoyment on a dry day .. as regards price .. just because I can afford an expensive bike doesn't mean I need to waste my money on one either .. as much as I like new bike I'm not wasting money on one either

[@roybatty2030]

You hit the head on the nail. Strange that manufacturers don’t seem to understand this.

[@roybatty2030]

@@drewtonhouseme too, could buy any new bike I want but I won’t, I’ll stick to my older bikes, thanks.

[@gsxrinfrance5827]

I'm heading towards 80, been riding since l was 16, always had a bike or two, but never ever new , always good low milage, one or two years old...its served me well over these past 60 years so won't be looking at new, and that applies to anything these days, my wife says " if its going to out last you, you're not having it"...

[@Jonhenrysneip]

They all call them self Bikers just having one.

[@gphilipc2031]

Car prices for a MC. No thanks.

[@Saturntabbytype2]

I USED TO RIDE SPORTS BIKE BUT USE A SCOOTER 350 NO GOING BACK SUPER PIECE OF KIT AND AMAZING.

[@5280Roadrunner]

Too much tech and gadgets makes all these unaffordable in times when 70% are struggling to get by. Only segments doing well are entry level to mid size bikes. Industry is in trouble.

[@hotchihuahua1546]

Used bike market is flooded and there are good deals to be had !

[@nomoreblahblah]

Eventually, the manufacturers price themselves out of the market or lose customers because of poor manufacturing quality. Then poof: A generation of buyers gone.

[@brookegan2945]

You don't need a big tourer, I just did a 2 week tour in outback Australian on my Himalayan 450. And it was only $9000 Aus ride away. About $6000 US.

[@kirkdyck5797]

These are high end,top of the line units,in order to sell these bikes they will have to drop the prices by at least $10,000.

[@jesparker435]

Not surprised they can’t sell electric motorbikes . I wouldn’t want one as a present, let alone pay for it! 😂

[@surferdude642]

Considering how many riders change their exhaust to get that sound from their ICE engine, the thought of a heavy bike that's quiet and more expensive is not going to cut it.

[@davidderler5924]

I cannot get past the fire hazard , no range, cost of battery and or repairs , the price of bike , full coverage insurance cost. Where do you charge once you leave home ?

[@johnjay6370]

A few years ago, I would not even consider test riding one, now i might just to see what it is like! I can not say i would ever get one, but i most likely will never because there really is no point in a electric bike!

[@jlrutube1312]

The price is just too high and the range is just too short and finding a recharging place is just too hard and the wait time is just too long.

[@automech01]

The stealership is the main problem in pricing with huge markups and fees they try and juice you on every transaction. I remember when going to a dealer they were small mom and pops now it’s like walking into a large car dealership with all the bells and whistles. It’s not a hobby anymore they have ruined it

[@rwl8150]

Too much high tech and prices to go along. Let's get back to simple bikes. Don't need rider modes or antilock brakes. Also lets get back to bikes that dont look like they came from a comic book.

[@wrongthinker350]

That's why I still like Harley-Davidson even though they're underpowered. At least they don't look like George Jetsons air scooter.

[@jlrutube1312]

@@wrongthinker350 I like Harley but they are priced pretty high for most of the population.

[@outdoor1640]

Interesting about Gold Wing. HEre in Canada the dealers are saying they are sold before they bring them into showroom

[@JackOfAllTrades-UK]

Thats dealer speak for "We will only supply them to order".

[@davidbrayshaw3529]

One of my favourite auto journalists has a saying: "Whenever a dealer says something, look at the clock on the wall. It doesn't matter where the hands are pointing, it's bull5h!t O'clock". Jack of All Trades is absolutely correct.

[@SKG1941]

There are four sitting on the floor down the street from me brand new.

[@harveycamacho2247]

You have to be nut to pay this crazy prices for a bike. I been riding a long time but this will be my last bike they have price themselves out of the market

[@hecthormerida]

For me it is a bit odd that you haven't mentioned KTM in this video for unsold units, when this company is facing hard finance impacts and facility closure due to low sales... Also on a previous email about motorcycles with very known issues never appeared crankshaft malfunction from KTM 🤔

[@throttleridingadventures]

Adv bikes are now the new middle age crisis when i personally gave up road bikes and went to an adv bikes in 2000 my mates were scratching there heads its a massive market now theres the shift right there cheers for upload

[@dozervin1]

Why buy new? So many great deals on used. Its unbelievable.

[@Richaag]

And just look at what dealers charge for destination, assembly, and doc fees. On top of that, many tack on overpriced BS add ons like battery and key replacement or some $500 “GPS theft Tracker”… which is nothing an Apple Air Tag can’t to for $25. You’re right, buy used, but use good sense because you can screwed on the used market too.

[@wrongthinker350]

I've been looking at a lot of motorcycles lately and I'm seeing a lot of really nice early 2000s models for under 3 Grand all with low mileage.

[@ryann6919]

Agreed. Got an awesome deal on a used multistrada V4S. Couldn't have considered that bike before cuz of cost but damn what a beast

[@billcotton1551]

I think that I can't afford any of these bikes.

[@Saturntabbytype2]

THE ZERO IS 20K OVERPRICED

[@BenelliMr]

quite interesting video? For whom? Which market? Which country?

[@butteravril9510]

I'm wondering the same

[@komanguy]

Exactly!

[@viasevenvai]

they show a “s1000rr” with clipons touching the roof. It’s obviously an asian country that has models we’ve never heard of. Probably cost less than any western bike too.

[@stevebeale2187]

Nice picture of the Ninja H2 SE at Matlock Bath England 👍

[@Lee-70ish]

The makers kept upping the prices with bigger techno bikes. Times got hard and people are saying nope I'll keep my bike or down size

[@Wajang1]

Never hold on to my old motorcycle, bought it old, 24 years. Can never afford a new bike i like with those prices. Not without a big loan. Why would i do that. Nope

[@dadandmari-polishandproud771]

interesting take on the m/c market. My thoughts are more is not necessarily better and most is not best. I've ridden BMW throughout my riding career. My first new Beemer was an R75/6 purchsed for $3100 US. Over the years (60) I've owned used BMWs and currently ride a 2009 K1300GT I purchased for $8500, it's new price was $23500! Service intervals are every 12000 miles, my last service was just shy of $600! I'd like to upgrade and onsidered a R1300RT but at $25K plus one of two option packages, the price tops $30K. Yamaha makes an FJ13oo with all the bells and whistles of my BMW for $18299. Some say it's outdated, I say it's proven technology with vastly larger dealer network and much more affordable service visits and probably my next ride. If Yamaha can do this others can too. More is not better.

[@jimbroen]

You're going to compare the Tracer GT+ with the NC750X? I like both those bikes but they're not the same thing. One's a commuter and the other is a tourer. Honda's given up trying to sell NCs into both the Canadian and Australian markets. It's pretty tough sell when they sit beside the Transalp for about the same price. You talk about prospective Goldwing purchasers looking for something lighter and simpler. If someone doesn't want a grand touring bike they look for lighter and simpler. For someone who wants a grand tourer, the Goldwing will still be on most buyers short list. I would suggest that the latest version has some reliability issues that are probably hurting sales and that the grand touring machine as a category has fallen a bit into disfavour. My local BMW dealer has a few K1600s, some from the previous year on the floor but no GSes.

[@raymondsanderson3768]

Like every thing else, “hey our profits are down, we’d better increase our prices “!

[@jamesgranberry8801]

My number one dream bike: BMW R1250RT. #2, the Honda GL1800. Shocked to see these models on this list.

[@devianthousend]

Ha! Same here. You got some good taste in bikes my friend

[@jamesgranberry8801]

@ I still own my 2000 R1100RT and I’ve ridden that bike all over the continental USA. For me, the ultimate touring motorcycle.

[@devianthousend]

@@jamesgranberry8801 I currently own an ST1300, Goldwing's "little brother" and before that I rode the BMW K1600GT, RT's "big brother". Still the RT is to me best of both worlds, followed closely by the Goldwing in 2nd place.

[@Supernaut2000]

Here in Canada we can only dream of buying those bikes at those prices! A Honda Goldwing new is almost $40k and an Indian or Harley are easily over $50k….all for a limited use motorcycle.

[@Sn00pyJ508]

$40,000 for a new Goldwing in Canada is CHEAP! $56,000 in the UK.

[@Supernaut2000]

@@Sn00pyJ508 That's horrific...and on top of that you have to deal with Muslims taking over your country.

[@stuarthipkins8336]

Not to mention ..parts..tires..22.00 a quart for oil..

[@Jeff82556]

$22 for Red Line. Other brands cost half as much. K&N full synthetic $12.99 Lucas full synthetic $11.99 qt (made in the USA) (Amazon current prices)

[@mopiktm9480]

I would consider too that riding bikes is much more dangerous than 30 yrs ago.

[@billboring3925]

I agree with older people driving newer vehicles with higher complexities and cell phones half of them. Don’t even know how to turn the lights down on low people just are inconsiderate on the road today.

[@Donfleebie1]

Really. It’s almost impossible to find a BMW 1250 RT, or a Goldwing DCT in my market area of NE Ohio.

[@jashton8710]

So many bikes for sale and I can't find the ADV 160 in this city.

[@thinkingimpaired5663]

Insurance is ridiculous in the USA.

[@teamtempest844]

Welcome to the real world manufacturers.

[@thinkingimpaired5663]

Manufacturers will just give money back to dealers to help move inventory.

[@sidneydawe9937]

Has anybody noticed how ugly and impractical todays machines are? During the 1960s and 70s the bikes were simpler, MUCH prettier in lovely colors. Now they are fitted with huge car engines which are impossible for the average biker to maintain without a computer, painted in dull boring matt 'colors' and no chrome plating whatsoever. Overweight and overpriced - no thanks

[@billy.b652]

Have absolutely no sympathy for for the greedy manufacturers, and garages. What do they actually think we do for a living to afford such high prices. You’d have to be a doctor, dentist, or pretty well off, to fork out £20,000 upwards for a motorbike, when you can buy a good car for less( I know there’s no difference) They had it coming, sooner or later. 🤔🤷🏽‍♂️🛵

[@Ukmongoose3]

Yes. I can afford to pay the prices, but refuse to do so. All my bikes are circa 2010.

[@Live2Ride39]

Same applies for snowmobiles.

[@stuarthipkins8336]

Bmw...never..ever never

[@blauerplanet8009]

Whats about KTM ?

[@petergrunendahl8799]

I wanted to buy for my holiday house in Thailand a new bike. I like the BMW GS 900 Adventure. I nearly signed the contract when I received the information that a CHINESE engine is build in. I contacted BMW and they confirmed. I didn't buy. I don't pay the Made in Germany price for chinese... Result: I'm one of those witch does not buy in 2024.

[@BillBleck]

Cost is everything lower prices and the markets will come back!

[@Booboosik]

Rocket 3 GT price is closer to $26K, your price is wrong. I just got 2025 one, I know MSRP.

[@komanguy]

Tracer 9 and bmw rt sells very well in France though!

[@davidderler5924]

So all manufacturers have an average of 1000 bikes of each model on floor nation wide , thats not a lot. That shows you how tight money is right now. Feeding family, paying bills , is #1 priority . Hard to see past those huge fairings , how is that legal blocking vision then stick extra distraction screen in front of your face .

[@donmccarthy2412]

Hey BMW! If you want to slash 30% off of the price of one of those RT's collecting dust give me a call.

[@jlrutube1312]

Motorcycles have gotten too fancy for their own good. They are huge and complicated and expensive. They are for doctors and lawyers. Nevertheless, we need all kinds cause that's the way the world goes 'round.

[@beachhoppr]

Not if you buy a Triumph Speed 400 or BMW g310R :)

[@ewganhoff]

Will I have a better time riding these £15-20k bikes than my £1500 Ninja 650? Yes. Will my enjoyment be 10 times more? Hell no!😂 I'm willing to bet these bikes wouldn't even double my enjoyment factor. Its easy to get caught up in all the latest power figures and gadgets, I've been there, but after 26 years of riding, I think the road you're riding and how you ride the bike are way more important than what you are riding when it comes to enjoyment.

[@marksimpson5218]

Very true.

[@kurtstueger7711]

The whole motorbike industry is doomed, as in Europe starting 2035 only E-bikes can be registered. By then every conventional motorbike is worthless. If you then want a motorbike, you have to make a decision weather you buy a lightweight E- bike with a range of no more than 100km or a superheavy E-bike with acceptable range, but a price tag of more than 30.000 EUR and a weight exceeding 350 kg. And charging a motorbike takes at least 1 hour. So for a lot more money, you get much less fun and additional problems. Touring over mountain passes will be difficult, as there are no charging stations. I order to have an acceptable range you need to steadily cruise - a more sporty ride is not possible then as the range would decrease very fast. Why would anyone spend so much money for having half the fun? I don't see any chance that the problems of E-bikes will be solved in near future.

[@julianmanowski6446]

Give me a Royal Enfield Interceptor 650, value for my limited finances.

[@GearShifter925]

SUZUKI bike on thumbnail... And on such title video.. Unbelievable ... !!!!

[@andrewclark9499]

R1250RT high maintenance costs? Apart from being fantastically reliable, no big tourer is easier to maintain yourself. Parts are expensive, but they have a great reputation for not failing. Yet another click bait vid, this kind of rubbish does not reflect a real problem with the market, but actually creates a false image. I've had 8 BMW boxers in the last 30 years, and they are easy to live with, very reliable on the whole, so I get annoyed when I see vids like this.

[@iheartwheelies]

he is talking about the "suggested maintenance" intervals in the service manual according to the dealer with paying dealer service costs, yes, expensive as hell, first 600 mile service is over 1000 if done at dealer.

[@Bigbaloo63]

I had several boxers and here, in Netherlands, the first service is usually around 225 euros. Thats like 250 USD. Not bad in my opinion. So maybe it's your dealership that's ripping you of...​@@iheartwheelies

[@MassimoTava]

Ultimate test for ai voice, how to pronounce Panagale.

[@erickramer9291]

KTM?

[@konap51]

A brilliant engine and chassis can go all for not if the bikes styling sucks. A restyle would make a slow selling unit a hot seller. One example is Honda's VFR1200. A really great bike that was ugly as fuck. Yamaha and Kawasaki should get away from the transformer look and get back to traditional styling.

[@teamtempest844]

V2 like the 07... 😂

[@ewganhoff]

@@teamtempest844 I noticed that too, but unless you're dick swinging in the pub, or chasing tenths on a track, are you going to use and enjoy the Ducati enough to make it worth twice the price? I'm not sure.

[@waynehollins1193]

Yes bye 5 - 10k 😅

[@stuarthipkins8336]

Your terminology is funny...invest???..buy one and see how much your investment is worth the day after you drive it off the showroom floor?

[@Saturntabbytype2]

ALL 12-14K WORTH TOO MUCH ,UTTER GREED

[@otto9327]

furchtbar diese Computer Stimme

[@mikeely3217]

:26 fake rr?

[@JuanRamonBarreraChinea]

Si solo vende honda los demás dep

[@kshetrimayumsingh7959]

learn from Indian manufacturer

[@bloodyconfessor]

and make bikes that go from 0-100 in 2-3 business days?

[@markpavlowski7223]

@@bloodyconfessor What 'u' riding then...managed to keep your licence (so far)...??...'rocket man'

[@davidbrayshaw3529]

I absolutely agree. Just look at what Royal Enfield have done. Bikes with good "real world" performance at a good price and that are easily and cheaply maintained. Value is relative, but it's hard to look past their offerings. 900,000 units last year. Go figure. They build bikes that people with real money in their wallets are prepared to pay for.

[@slampiecedirtylove]

How much more is the insurance on a street glide?

[@Booboosik]

Some content is stolen from @Motojitsu bike reviews