7 Beginner Motorcycles that are Actually Terrible

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Yammie Noob

Yammie Noob

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@yammienoob
@yammienoob 13 сағат бұрын
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@fermitupoupon1754
@fermitupoupon1754 12 сағат бұрын
Ah yes, good ol' Yammie straight up ignoring that there are markets outside the US where anything over 250cc suffers massive tax penalties, or where things like A1 and A2 licenses exist. Or that 20hp and 70+ MPG are actually desirable in a commuter bike that has to do nothing but get you from one side of town to the other during rush hour. The GSXR250R however, yes that thing isn't worth it at all. The CBR-250RR-R and ZX-250R however are freaking amazing, but those are not beginner bikes with their tiny 4 cyl screamers.
@dariuszzukowski5244
@dariuszzukowski5244 9 сағат бұрын
@fermitupoupon1754 Buying RE with 20 hp at 191 kg as a commuter city bike is nonsensical, when you can get a solid scooter, like Honda PCX: way nimbler, way cheaper, way more fuel-efficient, waaay lighter, with automatic gearbox and better brakes, and for which in EU you don't even need A1, if you have B. This RE is for no-one and serves no purpose. The only advantage I can imagine is a slightly better performance on holey roads, but then there are better and cheaper alternatives for that, too.
@burnttoast9890
@burnttoast9890 14 сағат бұрын
Petition for yammie to ride a royal enfield classic 350 !!!! It would be peak content !
@Kingjames313
@Kingjames313 14 сағат бұрын
Yes! Or Dong Fang 250cc
@Rutik_VR46
@Rutik_VR46 13 сағат бұрын
If he wanted a slow ass shit handling tractor, he'd get a tractor
@yammienoob
@yammienoob 13 сағат бұрын
@@Kingjames313 I think I bought one of those by another name - the wretched BOOM BD250 lol
@zackgifford831
@zackgifford831 12 сағат бұрын
Ay that's my first bike your talking about there, from that to a Gt650, ktm 1290 sas and now bmwf900gs
@Matt18001
@Matt18001 9 сағат бұрын
​@@yammienoobthe 350 probably isn't quite that bad. It's not good, kind of like riding a big heavy Grom around without the fun factor.
@UpstateBeard
@UpstateBeard 9 сағат бұрын
Don't try to fight F9. I know they're a corporation, but you'll lose. Ryan has fuck-you-charisma. And he doesn't sham his site all the time. Hell, his ads are actually entertaining.
@aronchas
@aronchas 11 сағат бұрын
I own the classic 350 as my first bike, its damn fun. Im glad I did not get the triumph. Sorry dude!!
@intolerantdude1058
@intolerantdude1058 11 сағат бұрын
Same here, I own a 2022 classic 350 and a 2025 Himi 450. Love them both.
@eviljan8158
@eviljan8158 9 сағат бұрын
He just doesnt know the half of what hes talking about, atleast when it comes to beginner bikes. 20 hp is more than enough even for the Autobahn in Germany.
@Win7ermu7e
@Win7ermu7e 9 сағат бұрын
@@eviljan8158 20hp might be okay for a scooter but 20hp on a 420lb bike is freaking atrocious.
@eviljan8158
@eviljan8158 8 сағат бұрын
@@Win7ermu7e If youre not trying to set Speedrecords 20 hp is more htan enough. More than 100 is fun but overkill.
@colinhailey830
@colinhailey830 7 сағат бұрын
Yeah, my 350 is great doing what it was designed for but, it can cruise at the speed limit here in Aus. with a bit in reserve. Certainly not designed for USA highway speeds but elsewhere in the world it is great.
@jasonking9401
@jasonking9401 12 сағат бұрын
Yammie- 5:40 Royal enfield 350s... you should really ride one before commenting on what they might be like to ride!
@miloww
@miloww 12 сағат бұрын
Yep, it's just all about numbers and stuff but no actual experience on the bikes
@grtbgf
@grtbgf 13 сағат бұрын
I suggest not picking on Ryan F9, your channel can't even go in the same sentence as his channel lolz
@adamlanglois563
@adamlanglois563 11 сағат бұрын
It's ok, as a Canadian I can say we're sorry for him.
@yammienoob
@yammienoob 11 сағат бұрын
Not really "his" channel, guy is a mouthpiece for a corporation. He does great work and is genuine about his love of bikes though.
@grtbgf
@grtbgf 11 сағат бұрын
@@yammienoob Always thought he founded it, it seemed that way. Appreciate the reply.
@JohnForgit
@JohnForgit 10 сағат бұрын
Ryan F9 is the go to for motorcycle info. No one comes close.
@hippolyta3638
@hippolyta3638 14 сағат бұрын
Like you said, the RE 350s are really neat in other countries. Definitely not fit for high speed cruising if you live in the US, the thumper just does not output enough power (plus at least here they're electronically limited to 120kph/75mph) but in the places where RE cares about making sales - such as India, Argentina, Brazil, Colombia, Bangladesh, Thailand or Nepal - the price is impossible to beat due to the CKD plants, the performance is (borderline) enough for the roads, and both maintenance and insurance are cheap as hell. For comparison, in Argentina, where an average salary is about 400-500 US dollars a month, a Classic 350 is around $5,400 US dollars, while something like a Duke 390 is $11,000, a Honda CB300 Twister is just shy of $8,000 or a Yamaha R3 is nearly $12,000.
@hippolyta3638
@hippolyta3638 14 сағат бұрын
As an aside, the XR250 ($8,000) and the new 300 are *all the rage* here despite being expensive, to the point they are also by far the most stolen motorcycle in the country. Most insurance companies will refuse to cover XRs against theft or destruction because how common it is for them to get stolen or ridden by maniacs.
@eviljan8158
@eviljan8158 9 сағат бұрын
I can assure you 20 hp are more than enough for Highway cruising. It works on the german Autobahn without Speedlimits so american Highways shoudlnt be a Problem.
@brendanshroyer7696
@brendanshroyer7696 6 сағат бұрын
I think the US models are limited to 85. More than enough for most roads here.
@AniruddhaVasudeva-ez8oq
@AniruddhaVasudeva-ez8oq 3 сағат бұрын
A Duke 390 is $11K in Argentina? Holy shit!!
@MsKote1998
@MsKote1998 14 сағат бұрын
I would love to see a special just to talk about how the bike community is different in other parts of the world. For example, here in chile a 400cc it is not a beginner ride, a 125 up to 200/250 it is considered a beginner ride,
@kushagraN
@kushagraN 13 сағат бұрын
Yup. Same here in India. Here the 350 RE's are a midsize bike. Not entry level. Literally everyone starts on 100-125cc scooters/bikes. Most people use them as commuters & the only consideration is comfort & fuel efficiency. Bajaj literally sells a bike with a CNG tank that is rated for 100km/kg of fuel.
@Mrbuchnev1
@Mrbuchnev1 10 сағат бұрын
Interesting. Here in Latvia a 600cc bike is considered a beginner bike. A 750-800cc is a middle-weight and anything above or including 1000cc - a "proper" bike. There's very little demand for anything below 500-600cc. But that's mainly because you're riding a 600cc bike on the exam and you're already used to this kind of power. So when you get your driving license, you don't really see the point to settle for anything smaller than 600cc.
@ASutt23
@ASutt23 6 сағат бұрын
@@Mrbuchnev1very interesting that you do your exams on 600s, wonder if it ends up being safer long term getting used to that power/clutch feel on a more powerful bike under instruction. Much love for Latvia, was there for the first time earlier this yeat
@R-Tap
@R-Tap 14 сағат бұрын
Phew, my bike wasn't on the list.
@_Safety_Third_
@_Safety_Third_ 9 сағат бұрын
I'm disappointed that mine wasn't on the list 💩
@warmstrong5612
@warmstrong5612 11 сағат бұрын
Your critique of the Royal Enfield 350s misses the entire point of the bike. But maybe you're still too young yet to understand, give it time.
@Cosmorado
@Cosmorado 8 сағат бұрын
Exactly, its about the ride with enfields, not the power. The thumping feel of the bikes is like nothing else(probably closer to harleys)
@aronchas
@aronchas 5 сағат бұрын
I made a 3000km trip with my classic all the way to cancun last summer. It was so damn fun, no need to mach 2 speeds. Ride it from highways and alternate roads. The bike got a lot of compliments all the way
@Jinjajamie
@Jinjajamie 5 сағат бұрын
I rode a classic 350 and whilst I liked it where I live (Toronto) it doesn't have enough power to safely commute.
@jensenthegreen6780
@jensenthegreen6780 5 сағат бұрын
i personally see royal enfields as what i think they always are, they make bulletproof, efficient, and beautiful retro (or neo-) standards, i wish we got more of them where i live, its a rich kid's retro standard, an opposite of what the brand is in india...
@iLikeCarsFPS
@iLikeCarsFPS 3 сағат бұрын
They are beautiful. They are the bikes that got interested in bikes as a young samosa visiting India. I'm an older browner samosa man now so I still they're beautiful but still slow. But I must ask, why else are they great per your opinion?
@kfkwAL7
@kfkwAL7 14 сағат бұрын
You either get the Royal Enfield or you don’t. You don’t.
@thomassierp5583
@thomassierp5583 13 сағат бұрын
Im an RE fan and owner, and even im willing to admit the 350 is hammered shit. A person can subjectively like an objectively inadequate thing.
@Cthooligan
@Cthooligan 11 сағат бұрын
Seeing as how a 2nd gen turboed Hyabusa is the pinnacle of beginner bikes and is not included on this list, yes, this list is accurate.
@kushagraN
@kushagraN 13 сағат бұрын
1:51 - INDIAN MARKET BIKE 😐. Jeez Yam stop rubbing salt in our wounds. Honda doesn't really assemble anything fun here in India. I've lived in India for 25 years & never seen that xr150.
@justarandomguy401
@justarandomguy401 13 сағат бұрын
Seriously where does he get his facts..... The first beginners bike should be a manual bicycle. Then only 50-125cc..
@billbrunsell3052
@billbrunsell3052 14 сағат бұрын
Wow, those are some strong words against your peer, Ryan F9...
@yammienoob
@yammienoob 11 сағат бұрын
I don't think a guy who is an employee at some powersports company is my peer. Ryan is great at what he does though, and very creative.
@fry.master
@fry.master 10 сағат бұрын
@@yammienoobhe makes better videos than you
@jelledhont5661
@jelledhont5661 10 сағат бұрын
@@fry.master damn man i think it really hit his feelings thats some random dude on youtube doesnt like his videos
@UpstateBeard
@UpstateBeard 9 сағат бұрын
@@fry.master You're absolutely right. If I had to pick between F9 and YN, I know who my choice is. Ryan is where it's at.
@fry.master
@fry.master 8 сағат бұрын
@@jelledhont5661 i never said i didnt like his videos, i said fortnine was better.
@kholt1776
@kholt1776 4 сағат бұрын
The classic 350 is about the aesthetic and is great for the city at its price point. For someone who wants or owns a classic 350, the triumph is not even close as an alternative (looks way too sporty and in no way retro)
@herpmcderp7666
@herpmcderp7666 11 сағат бұрын
Yammie last month: There's an affordability crises in motorcycling, no one's going to be able to afford the sport if manufacturers don't lower prices Yammie today: All these small affordable low CC beginner friendly bikes are garbage and people should just be willing to fork over 6 to 8 grand on a whim for bikes I deem acceptable, why can't everyone just ride sportsters and ducatis like we do out in L.A.?
@T____W____7777
@T____W____7777 10 сағат бұрын
Not only did you not get his point at all, he also lives nowhere near LA 😂
@entropy5125
@entropy5125 10 сағат бұрын
Dude always praises the ninja 400-500 and the Aprilia 457 and the triumph speed 400. Also he lives in texas 🦑
@bawlout9367
@bawlout9367 10 сағат бұрын
whats texas have to do with anything ?
@herpmcderp7666
@herpmcderp7666 8 сағат бұрын
@@T____W____7777 THEN WHY DOES HE SOUND LIKE A SURFER GUY
@FasterNLouder
@FasterNLouder 13 сағат бұрын
That was one helluva backhanded compliment to Ryan F9 lmao
@LeoBaquero
@LeoBaquero 13 сағат бұрын
You should add "in the U.S" to that title my dear Yammie.
@nightcoremetal2518
@nightcoremetal2518 5 сағат бұрын
Actually the 2025 CFMoto 300SS was substantially updated. Its 20 pounds lighter, has slightly more CC and power and updated styling closer to the 450SS. The 300NK is lame tho.
@ImSrry4BeingWhite
@ImSrry4BeingWhite 14 сағат бұрын
Yammie has never even owned or really ridden any classic bike hardly at all. Pathetic
@remr90
@remr90 14 сағат бұрын
5 seconds 0 views, fell off greatly dang
@athulpp2023
@athulpp2023 14 сағат бұрын
i got the triumph scrambler 400x as my first bike, and i haven't got any previous experience in riding at all... was this is a good decision?
@NoFrictionZone
@NoFrictionZone 14 сағат бұрын
Yes, I got the Speed 400 (coming from the scooter world) great machine to improve your skills.
@Linkophere
@Linkophere 14 сағат бұрын
Always take opinions with a grain of salt. Just pro tip
@nephilimg
@nephilimg 13 сағат бұрын
I got the cbr500r (im tallish) it was nice i got a 765 now, triumph is bb
@kamehamehaDdragon
@kamehamehaDdragon 10 сағат бұрын
For sure man, Scrambler 400x looks awesome, I bet it is.
@thescourgeofgod7
@thescourgeofgod7 13 сағат бұрын
LOL I never imagined to watch 5 out of my 6 next bike options in just one video 😅
@layeredchip3220
@layeredchip3220 13 сағат бұрын
Honest to god, a Meteor 350 is one of my dream bikes, and I plan on getting one this coming summer.
@miloww
@miloww 12 сағат бұрын
Yeah don't over-fixate on the numbers
@kamehamehaDdragon
@kamehamehaDdragon 10 сағат бұрын
They look so beautiful man, someone at work has a yellow Meteor 350 and its really beautiful. I always admire it a bit lol.
@lockpinos
@lockpinos 4 сағат бұрын
Suzuki should make a GSXR400 out of the new DRZ4 with hogher end gearing and a agressive ergonomic of GSXR125
@marijnhack4185
@marijnhack4185 9 сағат бұрын
I have an 2017 R3 as a first bike and i love it, The only issue for me is that it sounds like an vacuum cleaner even with the slip on exhaust.
@_Safety_Third_
@_Safety_Third_ 9 сағат бұрын
🤣
@1197kendall
@1197kendall 9 сағат бұрын
I bought the meteor 350 2 years ago I sill use it everyday for my 1 hour commuting to work. I love it, it is my first bike. Maybe I will change it but I a couple of years for the Super Meteor 650. Royal Enfield does know how to make good cheap bikes that are fun and really enjoyable to drive.
@bawlout9367
@bawlout9367 10 сағат бұрын
as a CFMOTO 450ss owner, I feel as if my bike is the perfect sweet spot for a street/sport beginner bike , if I would've bought a 300ss/300nk I'd been so upset. when I got the bike a month ago the ninja/ z500 just wasn't offering enough for the price tag. I highly encourage anyone looking for a sport beginner bike to go after the CFM450ss you wont be let down!
@amerigo88
@amerigo88 9 сағат бұрын
Test rode one in a Demo Day setup. It was quick to go and stop. Just that I'm too old to put up with that much weight on my hands/wrists for long. I was gripping the tank with my legs as often as I could remember to do so, and that helped keep it off my hands. I just prefer a more upright stance like a naked bike. But if you want a beginner sport bike, the CFMOTO 450SS is quite good, at least in my test ride. No clue on the long-term reliability.
@ASutt23
@ASutt23 6 сағат бұрын
Got a versys, the 450 was literally a dream for me but I don’t fit :(
@bawlout9367
@bawlout9367 6 сағат бұрын
@ASutt23 what's a versys? And you know they have a taller seat, shorter seat and adjustable foot pegs right?
@ASutt23
@ASutt23 5 сағат бұрын
@ versys x300- unfortunately although the seat is fairly high it halso has heaps of clearance so my legs are very cramped (triangle isn’t good even with the pegs). But despite that my knees can’t fit below the fairing (and since it has a sharp angle it’s uncomfortable). Then again it’s in my opinion the best starter adventure bike, but unfortunately I am an exception to that because I’m 6”7 with long legs
@bawlout9367
@bawlout9367 5 сағат бұрын
@@ASutt23 oh wow you're tall!!!! Yeah the 450ss won't work for you aha. But at least they have peppy adv bikes that should work for you! I just looked into it they make a 650 versys as well
@clydeosterhout1221
@clydeosterhout1221 14 сағат бұрын
You seem to still think we’re back in the 2010s when bikes were purely recreational! With inflation, stagnant wages, and the average new car costing over 40 grand people are going to have to start buying bikes to replace their second car. To save money using a bike requires some brutal compromises. The bike has to get great mileage (my car gets 42 mpg, a commuter bike should get 70-80), be cheap to insure, be easy to maintain (meaning do-it-yourself because dealers are $$$$) and thus simple (anyone can handle air cooled, one cylinder, two valve chain drive bike) with a very low cost of entry. In a harsh economy a recreational bike is a luxury most won’t be able to afford. Unless current trends change, of course.
@tedunguent156
@tedunguent156 12 сағат бұрын
The problem with Yammie is that HE thinks that HE speaks for everyone when HE really speaks for no one but HIMself. HIS opinion is that every purchase must be made on how much HP the bikes makes versus any other consideration. Pathetic, really.
@Ephem13
@Ephem13 12 сағат бұрын
Everyone is talking about how easy air-cooled bikes are to work on. The thing is, lots of entry-level water cooled bikes are also easy to work on. Most are the equivalent of cars from the 70s and 80s at best. As for electrical, is an electrical system with like 6-8 fuses that intimidating to you?
@gregropp1003
@gregropp1003 10 сағат бұрын
Hey I bought RE Hunter 350 and it's actually fun to ride. I can probably get it up 70mph 75 if I'm going downhill with a good tail wind. Will I probably buy something bigger, yeah. For right now it does what I need it to do and I've even gotten positive comments on it's looks.
@peteb6072
@peteb6072 13 сағат бұрын
Foreign countries have different ideas about big bikes.. a 400cc is HUGE in the Philippines.. I asked my tour guide in Boracay to get the biggest motorcycle he could find for us to rent.. it was a 150cc Yamaha 😂. It’s okay because we were able to cruise the island nicely. And any motorcycle is better than no motorcycle
@aronchas
@aronchas 11 сағат бұрын
Yep, U.S is not all what it is😂😂
@mikebon8352
@mikebon8352 13 сағат бұрын
Problem with offshore manufacturers like BMW is once delivered, to back in EU or USA customers market, they get paid in India.. So there is no way BMW Germany can get control of the quality of the manufacturing process.
@edouardl2
@edouardl2 2 сағат бұрын
I do own an XR 150 and it is to be used properly, this is a farm bike with a large tank and decent comfort. It can go into some limited offroad and tops roughly at 100 KPH. This is a perfect bike to learn driving if you use it for what it is designed ie not high speed and not single trail. Big advantage over trail bikes is better saddle and high autonomy but still very light weight. Furthermore, repairs are cheap which is a plus for a new rider which will fall more than once. Now, it is clear it is an entry level bike with primitive instruments and equipment but it is a very good bike if you live in the countryside or in a city but don't travel on fast highways. I wouldn't dismiss it for a first bike as long as you use it as per the way it was designed. For the Versys 300, i absolutely enjoyed it, it had decent power (40 HP), confidence inspiring drive and able to go on light trails too. Power is good enough to go on any highway without problems, weight is manageable and engine is bullet proof. True it doesn't have sophisticated tools like TC but this is not needed for that power. You don't need to be an IT engineer to drive it which makes it in my view a very good first bike, Now, i have KTM 790 ADV but I still miss the Versys which was easy to drive anywhere thanks to the weight. XR may be questionable as first bike unless proper environment but I wouldn't dismiss Versys at all whatever the place.
@CamusElaj
@CamusElaj 13 сағат бұрын
The 401 Himalayan was only meant to stay in the domestic market, wouldn’t call that a fail. In Latin America, the Honda XR 150L is a very desirable bike, it’s almost $3200 here, I agree, too expensive for 0 updates in almost 3 decades just cause it says Honda. Down here small displacement bikes are the norm, a tool and a common means of transportation, unlike in the US which is 9/10 a toy. For 3 grand, brand new, a 2024 Hero Xpulse comes w all the bells and whistles. (Hero made bikes for Honda for 40 years, people.)
@moonchild-is-here
@moonchild-is-here 14 сағат бұрын
I love my Suzuki Gixxer 250 naked ...it's an underrated gem 💎🔥
@Grantlamp
@Grantlamp 10 сағат бұрын
I appreciate your videos like this. I am one of those middle aged guys that just got my license and am looking for a good beginner bike. I have done way too much research on what bike I should get as my first one. I am looking for something to be able to ride back and forth to work on. My commute is 7 miles in northwest CT so great backroads, but also looking for something I can cruise on for hours on end. My top three I am looking at are the Royal Enfield shotgun 650, Honda Shadow Phantom 750, and Honda Rebel 1100. Midlife crisis buy yes... looking to break the sound barrier no, just want a good all around bike I wont get tired of that can be comfortable if I decide to hop on the highway and travel a few hundred miles. Its good to know what NOT to look into. Thanks :)
@amerigo88
@amerigo88 9 сағат бұрын
You better be fairly short legged to ride a Shadow Phantom. I test rode the Rebel 1100 and it is a screamer - which I loved. Afraid I cannot recommend it for a noob as carrying too much speed into a corner is a cinch on the Rebel that shares the Honda Africa Twin engine. That's what gets most new riders killed - too fast and deep into a curve, then instinctively clamping the front brake lever and losing control of the bike. FYI, started riding at age 55 and am only three years in, riding my third and fourth bikes these days - KLR 650 and Harley Dyna Street Bob. I threw a leg over a Shotgun 650 and it felt and looked great. Good luck with the Royal Enfield reliability. Ridershare platform for P2P renting motorcycles reports having the most reliability problems (renters complaining of problems that can interrupt a rental period) with Royal Enfields. FWIW. YMMV
@arsehair8105
@arsehair8105 14 сағат бұрын
I don’t see much point in these videos personally. I’d much rather watch the best beginner bikes, this feels like a waste of time.
@1993Brunu
@1993Brunu 12 сағат бұрын
If you know what not to buy then at least you are closer to know what to buy
@DavidSmith-ci5th
@DavidSmith-ci5th 9 сағат бұрын
The only thing that’s more of waste of time than watching a type of video you think is a waist of time, is commenting on a video that you say is a waist of time, and post that it’s a waist of time.
@TheWhoamaters
@TheWhoamaters 4 сағат бұрын
@@1993Brunu Yeah but this is a fully subjective list, it doesn't actually list bad bikes just a bunch of 300s and below this guy loves to rag on in almost every video
@brokensmilephoto
@brokensmilephoto 13 сағат бұрын
GSX250R - if you can get one cheap enough, because dealers are tired of looking at it collect dust, get one. Just leave the flip flops and shorts at home so they don't charge you a gixxer tax. Honestly I've never ridden one, but my love for Suzuki has be re-established after leaving the green company for an 8R. I'd honestly say though for American roads, if you aren't on something at least close to 400cc or higher, you're gonna have a bad time.
@jamesballard6564
@jamesballard6564 Сағат бұрын
I've heard of some dealerships knocking off 1k just to get rid of stock. That makes it a good purchase in my book.
@OpieDope
@OpieDope 6 сағат бұрын
I bought a xr150l new in 2023 and I personally love it. Great mpg and a super light weight, easy to ride first bike. Put 5,400 miles on it in the first six months and never thought i had made a bad decision on my first bike. Would buy again.
@NewHamburgShenanigans
@NewHamburgShenanigans 9 сағат бұрын
I got a versys 300 as my first bike and it's awesome 👍😎
@ericcopeland7242
@ericcopeland7242 9 сағат бұрын
2:35 My 13 y/o brother upgraded from a clapped out ttr 125 to a xr150. For him that’s a perfect bike, but I have a crf300l. If you’re a beginner dual sport rider I recommend the 300, it just has more capability.
@Originalsinn_AO
@Originalsinn_AO 3 сағат бұрын
I can now reasonably infer that the Indian Super Chief is an excellent beginner bike. Going to the dealer tomorrow.
@huntercrissup8766
@huntercrissup8766 4 сағат бұрын
I have an xr150, not my first bike but I do love it! It's great for commuting around town and is surpringly capable on some pretty gnarley trails!
@mr1bienvenu1
@mr1bienvenu1 13 сағат бұрын
A used Honda CB500X or CB500F are the best way to go because they are highway capable and have great reliability AND dealer support is unmatched 😮
@nomadOn2Wheels-n2w
@nomadOn2Wheels-n2w 6 сағат бұрын
yammie : "any bike is better than no bike" boom bd 250 : "sure bro ?" gsx250 : "yeah, u sure bro ?"
@harshdeshmukh9603
@harshdeshmukh9603 5 сағат бұрын
yeah the 310cc engine from BMW fked yp too bad Too costly and the damn badge itself costed extra compared to its TVS (indian Alternative) everything sams just cheaper and no bmw badge
@kamehamehaDdragon
@kamehamehaDdragon 10 сағат бұрын
Great video. In the specific case of México, population rides small engines, the allowed speed in highway is around 110 km, a bit over 60 mph. Therefore a lot of the mentioned bikes are great choices. Here RE and KTM are selling a lot, since they offer small engines which are perfect for riding over here, pretty much the full range of speeds allowed in city and highway, They are killing it over here I think, I see a lot of RE and Dukes, also that 310 bmw but a bit less since its more expensive.
@haydnfischer4114
@haydnfischer4114 13 сағат бұрын
Yam. Would love to see a video talking about middleweight adv bikes that are good off road!
@markdawson5215
@markdawson5215 4 сағат бұрын
I think a lot of people missed the message of the F9 Versys 300 video if they think it was an endorsement. He points out its comically high revving engine, even at low speeds, and after comparing it to a more typical dual sport, says the Versys 300 is pointless (though well made). If you want a dual sport, he says, get a dual sport. I'll admit, he did make the bike look sexy, but once I got the real message, I turned to other bikes. As a beginner, I shopped this segment quite thoroughly a couple of years ago, and Yam, I think your comments and criticisms are overall quite accurate. I ended up getting a Royal Enfield Scram 411 a low power, heavy bike, with a low top speed, but it'll take me anywhere. If I was buying this year, there are better options, including a few you mention, but for me at that time it was my best choice. I'm super happy with my decision and have 7,600 miles on the bike.
@tryan715
@tryan715 9 сағат бұрын
Yammie - “Any bike is better than no bike” Me - “So, I go this Chinese bike off of Amazon…”
@xaviermrozoski2661
@xaviermrozoski2661 11 сағат бұрын
When I saw c if moto was announcing a v four engine, so hopefully go into one of their bikes, i'm more excited that they're actually trying to progress as a company rather than just staying in the two fifty and three hundreds, like some others
@user-martinpd
@user-martinpd 11 сағат бұрын
Move your bones to bring us the horrendous hueristics of Hyosung, that marketing faff fight in graphite loans
@chrismartens8483
@chrismartens8483 9 сағат бұрын
as someone who owned a GV650 this story must be told. Truly abysmal brand.
@augustineotc5824
@augustineotc5824 7 сағат бұрын
still want a gt650r lol
@carcosa_tyrant9444
@carcosa_tyrant9444 8 сағат бұрын
as a himalayan rider, if the himalayan isn't on this list i'm gonna freak out
@nrnccrdn
@nrnccrdn 9 сағат бұрын
So, what would you suggest from CFMoto for someone who has 2 years of experience with 300cc Yamaha X-Max 300? I am looking at NK 450, NK 600 (or was it 650?), MT 450, MT 600(650?), MT 700 and CLX 700.
@3GingerCats
@3GingerCats 11 сағат бұрын
Here in New Zealand... the Honda XR150 is not allowed to be road legal (because it's New) the fact it doesn't have ABS disqualifies it from being road legal. If it was first registered years ago it is fine, but all NEW bikes MUST have ABS by law. But is quite possibly the most popular farm bike in the country, (they can be registered to be on the road a certain short distance from the property it's registered to, but that's it.) The RE Himalayan is outselling the CFMoto 450MT here too. I'm not sure why, I don't like the aesthetics of either, but the CFMoto does seem a little better. although RE of any type are extreeeeemely common in Auckland. I guess as long as they look good and can do the 100km/h speed limit, people will ride them! the little versys... I sat on one, and I got off and sat on its closest competition (the Suzuki V-strom 250SX) and I've now sat (and stood) on that for 14000km BMW 310... look people, I'm allowed to spend my DADS money, Haha you have to buy your own bike! Honda CBR... if it aint broke, don't fix it... not suited to me for 187 reasons (and cm) but If Honda realise that people don't want "designed to fail tech" and keep going back to the older models for the reliability, then why make a new model?
@garywebb7481
@garywebb7481 10 сағат бұрын
I would not recommend anyone buying a new motorcycle as their first. There are to many used bikes out there that will save them a lot of money, and I personally would never recommend a single cylinder motorcycle of any kind if they are going to ride it on the road. I made that mistake back in ‘67. Using a Ducati 250 Monza as my first bike. It was used and was the worst motorcycle I’ve ever owned. Took bad advice. I should have bought a 305 twin Honda. That single left me stranded more times than not. Oh and did I tell you it vibrated. I’ve owned nothing but Hondas ever since and their reliability has been awesome.
@martinsnyder3325
@martinsnyder3325 9 сағат бұрын
How dare you impugn the Versys 300. I've owned a LOT of bikes in my time, from big displacement fours to big V twins and 125 scooters. The X is one of my favorites. No torque? No problem. It revs to the moon. You compare it to a KTM (bankrupt and unreliable) and a CRF300 Rally (even less than no balls, terrible on-road, not even the same kind of mission) and a new Kaw that you can't buy yet. Whya? The Versys has am excellent fine handling and ride balance, is very lightweight, and very reliable, and offers ABS- an absolute requirement. I can throw it on a hitch carrier on the Jeep in about a minute. With a Corbin seat, tall windshield and a few teeth off the rear sprocket the thing eats miles, loves curves, and is comfortable for hours. I don't think you can find more used motorcycle for the buck. Kawasaki should put the old Ninja 400 motor on it - I'd buy a new one in a minute. Have you ever actually ridden one, or just spouting off here?
@NewHamburgShenanigans
@NewHamburgShenanigans 9 сағат бұрын
Man I got a brand new 300x as my first bike and it's awesome... Love it
@Originalsinn_AO
@Originalsinn_AO 3 сағат бұрын
Dude, you're getting way too defensive over someone's opinion of your motorcycle.....
@adamlanglois563
@adamlanglois563 11 сағат бұрын
A Vstar 250 is a good beginner bike, 320 lbs wet 20hp low seat height. Not great on the highway but a breeze everywhere else. Low tech commuter bikes are great.
@TerryHowell-dy7qh
@TerryHowell-dy7qh 12 сағат бұрын
The Suzuki and BMW you are spot on but the rest definitely have their time and place nothing at all wrong with the other bikes.
@imkow
@imkow 11 сағат бұрын
my new Haojiang hj150-7a 's msrp is like 926usd ...it has 9.2kw or 12ps of aircooled power., 11nm of torque. and features fuel injection from american brand Delphi, no old cab. top speed 100kph, 2.4L/100km or 98Miles per Gallon...beginners' ride of choice that costs literally a fraction of any bike YaamieNoob mentions...
@cadesmith4278
@cadesmith4278 13 сағат бұрын
I was actually going to buy an XR150 when I heard it was coming to the US, until I found they deleted the kickstarter from the US version.
@AddumEnied
@AddumEnied 10 сағат бұрын
The RE 350s are actually very cool and characterful - as a 2nd or 3rd bike in your stable, not as your only bike. Also an A1 compliant Gixxer 125 is actually faster.
@n3ilpentony979
@n3ilpentony979 3 сағат бұрын
I own a RE classic 500, as much as im glad i got that and not the 350, i still think the 350's make sense, theyre good back country bikes.
@MaybeFactor
@MaybeFactor 11 сағат бұрын
I'm an RE girl, but I have to agree about the 350 models, at least for the US and Aus markets... if it can't do highway speed with a little oomph left to overtake, it's just not suited to our driving conditions. If you love the look of the 350s, find the extra cash for a 650 and you won't be disappointed.
@jjk9999
@jjk9999 4 сағат бұрын
The RE classic 350 seemed a perfect first bike until I learned that taxes were an added 1/3rd the price. For $4k they seemed pretty good and stylish, but for $6k (after taxes) it's total crap compared to used bikes you can get for under $6k. The 650cc super meteor and the new 650 classic might be better for the price I don't know.
@MFx88
@MFx88 4 сағат бұрын
I love the retro look and although the speed 900 makes the cut, the speed 400 doesnt.
@tejas8719
@tejas8719 12 сағат бұрын
11:43 Actually, have never seen the XR150 in India. They are pretty common in SE Asia, especially in Vietnam where I've seen plenty of these bikes in rentals. Most likely, a lot have been tuned with parts that are not Honda certified, some are even considered "Chinese Hondas" or Fake Hondas there. The one I rode had a shit chassis, it is probably the most barebones bike I rode in my life. But damn driving on twisties with that bike was fun!
@SumitPillai
@SumitPillai 13 сағат бұрын
Yammie should really try the 200 and 250 class bikes of KTM
@bradhall222
@bradhall222 10 сағат бұрын
I test drove a used GSXR 250. I wanted a little beater bike. It was nice looking and cheap price but I could not buy the cycle it was so slow. I felt getting on the highway would be dangerous with no power.
@aronmarconi4028
@aronmarconi4028 9 сағат бұрын
me seeing this after Freddie Dobbs said the classic 350 was the best bike he ever rode...
@sanihethrao6780
@sanihethrao6780 10 сағат бұрын
The g 310 Gs is a lady’s happiness toy in between men’s legs to put it in the easy words 😂
@ToastxIntros
@ToastxIntros 13 сағат бұрын
4:36 what is that bike, is that a heavily modified RE 650 or something upcoming
@TheSproox
@TheSproox 8 сағат бұрын
RE Shotgun. I own a Meteor 350 and the Shotgun will be my next.
@jinezawa7089
@jinezawa7089 12 сағат бұрын
I bought the versys 300 for $4600 brand new. Dealer had some 2023 overstock. While I'm happy with it so far I def wouldn't have bought it for MSRP. Though as a nice bonus, it comes with a warranty
@papertiger795
@papertiger795 12 сағат бұрын
Yeah. I got my '22 Versys brand new for $3600... And frankly, it's pretty insane that I can go on 2000+ mile multi day trips for the same amount of money I paid for my riding lawnmower.
@EvendimataE
@EvendimataE 13 сағат бұрын
in the Philippines XR150L is less than $2k "OUT THE DOOR" why does it have to be $4k otd in US
@_Safety_Third_
@_Safety_Third_ 9 сағат бұрын
We've been converted from gunslinging pioneers into diabetic cash cows for billionaires
@nominevacans8173
@nominevacans8173 12 сағат бұрын
I kinda want to see Yami abuse the worst bikes until they break..
@kamilhorvat8290
@kamilhorvat8290 13 сағат бұрын
Best beginner bike is Honda CB500F/NC700 due to it's fairly fat tyres, given it's engine power. 120/160mm tyres have much larger contact patch than all 300ccm bikes mentioned in video, since they are usually equipped with 110/140 tyres or something similar.
@mociczyczki
@mociczyczki 13 сағат бұрын
its not that simple …. thiner tores dont necessery mean smaller contact path it depend on tires construction its profile and deflection charactersitics + how big force /weight push them to the tarmac the biger obviously the biger conatact path is create due to tire deflect compresss more 👌🏻 some tire give biger CP only at very specified angle than some other tires feg i have pirelli doablo rosso 3 which have biger contact path in big angle in corner than pirelli sport demon but on straight when bike was upright it have smaller conatact path and obviously both tires have diffrent compund so another part to story ….👌🏻beside 300-400 cc bikes are lighter so they push less stresss on tires …. beside even assuming you have more CP it can be easy compensate be stockier tire compund assuming you have less stickier 😉👌🏻 what really gives biger tires is they better amortization bumps and holes on road what they cant do as well as thiner tires is they required more force from driver leverage for force bike to lean and they required biger lean angle for defeat the same corner on the same line with the same speed cos offset from vertical tire axis is biger asssuming similar tire profile offcorse anyways thers plenty + and - for having woder and thiner tires also wider tires usually last longer as they have more compound 👌🏻 feg moto 3 bikes with super thin tires can go the same fast in corner if not faster than moto gp with big fat tire check telemtry data + wider tire mean you have biger unspring weight mass however tires compresion deflection itself probably co apensate this factor with suply as i mentioned erarlier on boger tires bike defeat bad wuality road more stable and more comfortable 😉👌🏻…..
@GageGrimm96
@GageGrimm96 3 сағат бұрын
ive been saying it, the older 650 class and even the newer ones are some of the BEST beginner bikes, enough ass to scare you, not quite enough to loop stupid easy, i mean you can, but you have to try a bit
@kartikeyasingh9386
@kartikeyasingh9386 14 сағат бұрын
Honda XR 150 isn't available in India!
@dawg7339
@dawg7339 13 сағат бұрын
Looks suspiciosly similar to the impulse 150 which wouldn't be a surprise cuz of the hero honda venture back in the day
@johngrigg8210
@johngrigg8210 14 сағат бұрын
Yes I think you are wrong about old school tech. Reliable, easy to work on and great fun for the purpose. I have an Indian Hero Eco 150 trail. I'm 72 and do lots of offroading. Similar engine to XR 150. 14 HP and top end 120. Price about US $1200... Fun at low price with 100 000km or 5 year warranty. More fun than any duel sport I've owned
@aurkcoe
@aurkcoe 11 сағат бұрын
Yo, is there a beef between Ryan and Yammie?
@chanelpate13
@chanelpate13 11 сағат бұрын
Are there any CFMoto bikes that you would consider for beginners? Something along the naked line? I really want a naked bike 😅
@ara7450
@ara7450 12 сағат бұрын
Yeah just sitting on the gsxr 250 made me wince and audibly go “eww”
@sofakingcrazy1
@sofakingcrazy1 14 сағат бұрын
One nanosecond in 5,421,832 views bro fell on
@Kneedragon1962
@Kneedragon1962 7 сағат бұрын
Yeah ~ a lot of this is extremely subjective. I agree with the concept, but then I spent 40 odd years riding ever bigger & faster & more powerful bikes. The world has changed in radical ways since I was a 17 year old (or something) looking to buy my first bike. And the whole concept is highly debatable. One example ~ for much of my riding life, the market has been well supplied with 250cc "Cruisers" that look like little Harleys. They tended to make something like 15 or 20 hp and not be able to keep up in group rides, partly because the beginner rider, and partly because the thing was tapped out. Handling and chassis and grip and dynamics, were no better than the power to weight ~ terrible. But if I call out the Mighty 250 Virago as a play-thing, a boat anchor, then half the riders out there are going to jump on me because that's where they started. I have a fairly small opinion of the modern Royal Enfields, but [shrug] value for money I guess. I did get to ride a Rickman Enfield in about '85, (made in the early '60s I think, like me) and the thing horrified me. It was awful! And that one was (probably still is) held to be a 'classic'. The one genuine 650 Trumpie Bonneville I rode, that was a much nicer bike, but still objectively nothing like as good as a mid '80s UJM of about the same capacity. What am I trying to say? It all gets very complicated. It all depends very much on the individual and their circumstances, and ... lots of things. Small 'learner-friendly' bikes tend to be bargain basement, and that's not exactly a surprise. So~ don't expect MotoGP levels of power or handling and braking or ~ Should we bag them for that? [sniff] Well I'm still not going to complement or recommend a 250 Virago ~ no matter how many people defend them. But that's me. What I think is "better" or "worse" or terrible, that might not line up with what the new rider thinks.
@intolerantdude1058
@intolerantdude1058 11 сағат бұрын
I own a 2022 RE Classic 350 and a 2025 RE Himi 450. The classic 350 makes a lot of sense where I live, Bogota, Colombia. BUt I can see how in the USA that might not be the case.
@brendanshroyer7696
@brendanshroyer7696 7 сағат бұрын
It's pretty good in some urban parts of the US too. I use one to get around town and occasionally go from one city to another.
@julienplamp2633
@julienplamp2633 14 сағат бұрын
It’s not 2024 anymore brotha😂😂
@levialind
@levialind 10 сағат бұрын
any bike is better than no bike. well said
@jacobwhite9961
@jacobwhite9961 12 сағат бұрын
5:40 but the meteor 350 is a lovely little bike though. Im an int 650 owner
@Piracanto
@Piracanto 13 сағат бұрын
Some shade against my 310GS. I don't agree with the statements here, but I guess to each his own ;)
@coomsquid7966
@coomsquid7966 11 сағат бұрын
Do a video about the honda cx500 if you havent already theyre so cool
@mariogutierrez2965
@mariogutierrez2965 6 сағат бұрын
People dont watch F9 to immediately buy Everything they post. Their videos are interesting and deliver entertaining information. Unlike Yammie that just makes lists. Starting to feel like those AI compilation videos at this point
@ASutt23
@ASutt23 6 сағат бұрын
You clearly don’t understand the versys 300 mate. Give it a few more years
@melone8833
@melone8833 11 сағат бұрын
This is honestly just a warning to not buy new motorcycles
@skierboy85
@skierboy85 7 сағат бұрын
Talks down on the versys x300, but has nothing to say about an R3. Nearly the same power output and similarly priced on the used market. I will say all of your picks are dead right when buying new, but if buying used a lot of them are perfect due to low prices and low demand. The Honda, Royal Enfield 350s, and the BMW are all pretty much trash though.
@samuelbekhuis9998
@samuelbekhuis9998 8 сағат бұрын
I can already smell the gixxser bashing 😢
@where_lamb_sauce1376
@where_lamb_sauce1376 2 сағат бұрын
XR150L was never sold in india 😅
@tjey379
@tjey379 11 сағат бұрын
Ha ha ha, like I am sympathetic towards most of the bikes on this list but unfortunately the manufacturers are selling them in the wrong markets just to get their prices up.
@elmersalonga6424
@elmersalonga6424 11 сағат бұрын
Can You Feature Low CC Bikes that are "Actually Good"?
@brendanshroyer7696
@brendanshroyer7696 6 сағат бұрын
That would be a very short video (at least, based on Yammie's preferences). Pretty much all the bikes in the video are good low cc bikes. Yammie just dislikes anything under 400cc except the Grom (because he sees it as a toy). I personally have a Royal Enfield Hunter 350 and wouldn't trade it for anything. It's a nice relaxed city bike with enough power to be fun and ride on the highway, but now enough that I have to worry about getting into too much trouble.
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