The World's Cheapest Trombone - A Soul Destroying Mess.

[@maxwellosborn9990]

I love how they have a treble clef on the counterweight of a TROMBONE

[@aftertheelectrike1847]

Trombones can play in treble clef.

[@maxwellosborn9990]

The Lazy Jolteon Yeah and a clarinet "can" play in bass clef But it doesn't really happen, you know?

[@themightyquinn94]

Why is Louis Dowdeswell your profile picture?

[@maxwellosborn9990]

Quinn Parker Because he's a badass

[@aftertheelectrike1847]

Maxwell Osborn It does happen. When trombone plays in treble clef, it transposes. It is uncommon, however. Clarinet cannot play bass clef because it lacks the ability to transpose its music into it. Bass clarinet can, though mostly does not.

[@SezzesStuff]

KZbin knows me well. I know nothing about trombones, I got this recommended to me, liked the video for sure.

[@TrentHamilton]

Clearly KZbin knows that you're a connoisseur of quality content like this.

[@TheHebrewHammers]

Sezze's Stuff same here man

[@RoxNoAnne]

Sezze's Stuff same here

[@Shawn4168]

I played trombone in high school. The last time I picked one up was over a decade ago. I haven't watched, or searched for anything related to trombones recently to the best of my recollection. Yet I got this video as a recommendation. Weird.

[@westy229]

i just got here from a video spree good content though

[@MyTube6444]

...is my preferred lubricant, In the music world and beyond." Erm.

[@yanikp6746]

MyTube6444 ikr I heard that to and was like what... And I also went from The bee movie but every time they say bee it gets a little faster #KZbin

[@tato.2938]

"...it gets a little faster" hrm

[@yanikp6746]

TheNebraskanPotato omg stop

[@martis4951]

MyTube6444 and beyond ;)

[@normantrombon]

MyTube6444 Like if he had a squeaky door hinge? Or what the... d-oh!

[@ndgoliberty]

mouth of euphomum killed me

[@radderthanu]

As a euphomum player, yes.

[@nikolairuskanov787]

"the lubricant i prefer in and out of the music world" LMAO

[@garystephens3346]

Sooooo glad my old man bought me a Conn 88H when I was in high school. 44 years later I wouldn't trade it for ANY other horn. It's truly one of the greatest trombones ever made.

[@ceicli]

I got a used 6H, I won't change either! 😊

[@supyoist]

Doesn't seem like it sounds much worse than a typical student model. Certainly very viable for a beginner, and it looks like the case holds up. Very unlike the trumpet which seemed mainly fit for the pits of hell.

[@gristlevonraben]

i played one of those models in a jr. high band, and it was much older, and sounded pretty good compared to this one.

[@JavierFernandez01]

supyoist I'd say it sounded good enough too. but we're wrong hahahahha. a bad or out of tune instrument could turn a kid away from practice. and make a good player sound wonky. I'd say, for practice, it's perfectly fine. but to really know if an instrument is for you, or to really sound your best, you gotta try the real deal.

[@hope_and_love]

I've taught a variety of instruments and there are really two primary reasons my beginners would quit. One, they were being forced to play, and two, their instrument made it difficult for them to play. If parents insist on the first, at least they should be willing to invest a few hundred dollars on a decent used instrument or a rental to avoid the second. I understand the prices differ between types of instruments, but the difference between a shitty $100 Yamaha guitar and a used $250 Ibanez guitar is beyond description.

[@Katisnotaneyeball]

Amy Johnson totally agree, almost quit playing trombone a few times when I had my pBone because it frustrated me so much.

[@dakotaingram4529]

False

[@4501driver]

still has a better tone than any of the trombones in my school xD.

[@strawbarely6367]

Mike The Gmod Foamer oml nooo can’t relate💀💀😂👏🏻

[@justinrobertson9116]

@@strawbarely6367 same here

[@jeffpecker]

the 1 dislike is the guy that made the trombone

[@jamespolland958]

Two now!!

[@zchen27]

11 now. Probably the entirety of the employees of the company that made the trombone.

[@jeffpecker]

zchen27 hahaha lol

[@RoxNoAnne]

TLK 27 now 22

[@tato.2938]

30

[@bobnapier7407]

This was in my recommended, and I have no idea. I know nothing about trombones or do I care about them. But I have to say I love this guy, don't understand what he's talking about, but he seems great so I subscribed, cheers trombone fella

[@aboxofbroken8tracks983]

This guy thinks that trombone sounds bad? I have one that sounds like a big metal kazoo.

[@explosivegaming5488]

OH GOD

[@ky-gp4sz]

OH GOD

[@haileyelders967]

OH GOD

[@tato.2938]

KAZOO KID

[@Killerkeister]

Make a video i want to see it

[@DeAthWaGer]

i know the perfect accessory for this... a lead tester.

[@sharpie660]

Look up trombones made by Stagg. Significantly more expensive (my student model was $400), but comparable quality. The slide, in terms of corrosion, was actually worse. My spit turned green, because that's the colour brass corrodes as. With a light tap I completely bent the spit valve out of position. The Case was also awful in its own unique ways, with the handle coming off and all the padding actually being empty space, resulting in a massive case for no real protection. Upon getting it out of my life, rather than donating it to my local high school's music department, I donated it to the drama department. It was better served as a prop that could be bumped and pushed around without fear of damage. The music department actually *rejected* it, a free horn for a cash-strapped music program, because of its quality. As a result, I not-so-endaringly for most of its use called it the 'ghetto-bone'.

[@manictiger]

The cheapest trombone is rusty and free.

[@flumpo19_92]

manictiger mine wasn't free

[@keytonbush3925]

Brandan Hickman Joke Your head

[@keytonbush3925]

Brandan Hickman Unless of course your joke went over my head, and you meant you payed to get a rusty trombone.

[@strawberrybleach7844]

OH NOOO

[@LittleGenevieve]

brass... uh... doesn't rust m8

[@silverstrings5569]

I'd like to have seen it side by side with a much better trombone.

[@QberryShortcake]

Retarc Carter The main thing I can point to, just from listening, is how tinny and hollow it sounds. The sound doesn't really fill the room, essentially.

[@cnelsonlv99]

Trust me... it's awful! Thin, metallic, and out of tune.

[@jamesg7028]

I'm sorry . . .did he say AN case?

[@catalogodefantasmas]

No, he said ANAL case.

[@rotunda57]

Yes. He's British 😄

[@mildstrife]

I'll be honest I just clicked this vid cus I saw a Trombone. I heard you play in the beginning and was like "wow this guys shit..." then later on in the vid you called out all the stuff I heard on the trombone so the fact you can hear the garbage emitting form that disgrace makes me happy. I revoke my previously incorrect statement,

[@jrp55262]

Maybe you should have played a few licks on this horn and then on a "proper" trombone so the viewer could hear the difference...

[@mk6802]

Jim Paradis I agree with you

[@timothywhite8130]

i bought a trombone for 8 bucks at a flea market

[@Grobbekee]

You win.

[@assdog2193]

i got a trumpet for free...do i still win?

[@thomh6083]

The Opals DJ And me.

[@Mutttrash]

I didn't pay anything and I also didn't get an instrument so I win.

[@thomh6083]

Mei y You Win!

[@thepixelgeek7005]

I love your sense of humor, I was laughing for a good part of the video.

[@shmupshmuppewpew5260]

Right? The moment when he discovered the hair in the mouthpiece had me rolling. He literally did a double take mid-sentence.

[@nicknuwe]

Even though I'm not a Trombone player, your exposition of this Trombone in this video is absolutely glorious. Congratulations.

[@Deses]

This is clearly a instrument for kids that are just starting, the gloves gave it away.

[@bobcat24]

Deses Still bad even for a beginner horn. And that’s coming from a guy who hated his beginner trombone (Starter Holton, TR602).

[@Reonlasbard]

the freaking gloves ahahaa

[@timzawicki1393]

This mess would discourage any kid's starting enthusiastic attitude - get them a better instrument in the first place - don't destroy their favorite new toy with Chinese crap.

[@snowycroquet2687]

I gotta love watching TH’s back wall collection of instruments grow, in the videos following this one after December .

[@parkuki]

I don't even question what videos I end up in on KZbin anymore. Good video, Trent.

[@kjohnson4077]

I don't regret this video being in my recommend. Good Job.

[@samuraikaoss1455]

Why does it have a treble clef sticker?

[@pandawithsticks2960]

You had one job (Music Edition)

[@bitrigged-4023]

Tromboness can play treble clef but its rare search it up

[@truckmonth4179]

It might be the company logo

[@jeffcraven7376]

I'd call it a tin slide whistle that doesn't even measure up to my original trombone in it's dinged up, home done soldered together, bent slide state my mother bought new for me in 1967.

[@leme686]

Savage xD..

[@mynewlunchbox]

This guy is like the Sean Connery of the brass instrument world. I love it!

[@lorenwoodson9164]

What is remarkable to me is how good you make this shabby horn sound. You'd make playing the phone book sound fantastic.

[@boazryan-palmer5186]

I am a grade 4 trombone player who has played for two years and i recently stumbled upon your channel, by far the most helpful yet. I think that the triple tonging video was very helpful so thank you for that, keep up the good work.

[@ZarkosisSmash]

Swap mouthpieces with something that is usable and larger, might fix some intonation issues if the instrument and improve quality. Overall seems like it would be good for marching :) probably the only practical use though.

[@cnelsonlv99]

Yea I was actually wondering how it would sound if it didn't have a euphomum mouthpiece. Probably still crappy, but at least it would rule out whether or not the mouthpiece is contributing to the problem.

[@taichikatsukawa]

World's cheapest tuba/euphonium next?

[@centralcontroller6483]

@@ian-go1ih Ah yes

[@flyoversirens3704]

"Slide Mix; my favorite lubricant both in the world of music and out of it." - Trent Hamilton 2018

[@Zayzon188]

Would you say it was a rusty trombone?

[@mushnoodle]

"it sucks all the pleasure and enjoyment from playing and makes everything much harder than it should be" ...suddenly sounds a lot worse.

[@ajn465]

Zayzon188 I rather think I'd prefer a rusty trombone any day.. 🤣

[@branflakes2600]

If a plastic trombone is better than this, then you know something's wrong.

[@taylorvaux-nobes7596]

Why does this keep showing up in my recommended ! 😂

[@TrentHamilton]

Probably because it's an awesome video.

[@brucemangan3807]

that's the greatest reply ever.. lol

[@yelectric1893]

You are right.

[@aftertheelectrike1847]

I got this one in my recommended too. I forgot I was subbed for a little bit lol

[@ZealotDKD]

"favorite lube both in the music world and out of it"

[@epimetran1698]

It sounds very sharp and also very bright. Sort of airy or breathy even

[@mikestang679]

Great display piece, wall hanger, restaurant/bar/pub decor.......

[@anotheraccount7637]

I think the treble clef on the counterweight is a great touch.

[@alupahrata3942]

I don't know much about music, but I do like this channel.

[@awildfilingcabinet6239]

Our directors 10 year old daughter joined us in pep band one day. She brought her own trombone, which was a smaller version, but also plastic and purple.

[@donglegusfinkleheimer]

I dunno why I like this channel so much I'm not even a brass player

[@daisybetlej765]

NEVER TRUST AN INSTRUMENT THAT CHANGES SHAPE WHEN YOU PLAY IT...

[@aboxofbroken8tracks983]

Accordion?

[@edwardhergott595]

That’s literally every instrument

[@PotatoSam3]

@@edwardhergott595 drums and some woodwind instruments dont change shape

[@orans_]

@@PotatoSam3 drum head flexes, reed vibrates, keys move

[@PotatoSam3]

@@orans_ bruh

[@Bob-py9dc]

I love this "Worlds Cheapest (insert instrument name here)" series. You get to see quality manufacturing such as the "Mouth of Euphomum".

[@adamtheis6662]

I loved the visual festival part. Thanks for making my hangover go away from all the crying an laughing that occurred. You rock.

[@sameester]

This or the world's cheapest trumpet: which is less worse?

[@TrentHamilton]

Probably this is marginally better. The other instrument feels like it'll make you ill, this instrument just saps all the enjoyment out of life.

[@littycitty8460]

Trent Hamilton indeed

[@neet6118]

This isn't as bad as the trumpet.

[@AlbertonJiggletip]

this is my favorite youtube channel

[@timblack9948]

The quality lapping air tightness of the joints and slide contribute greatly to the ability to phrase well. I picked up a trombone at a pawn shop that they just wanted to get rid of. I was able to seal a leak in one of the joints, but I had no remedy for the poor tolerances in the slide. It played a little better.

[@emorigami7108]

Who else caught the slide-o mix joke?

[@sfm4life613]

Winter The Wolf yep was just about to post a comment

[@bobcat24]

EM Origami Me!! 🤣

[@orwiable6469]

I got Startone SSL-45 Bb-Tenor Trombone (case, lubricant, mouthpiece & cleaning rod included) @ Thomann.de 12 months ago for €111. I have to admit the slide needed a proper wash in a lukewarm soapy water to work smoothly, but since then it gives me nothing but pleasure. Best starter kit ever if you don't want to invest a lot of money when you are still not sure if trombone is your thing.

[@jon9683]

Hmmmm... thats a nice $80 case you have there. And I see it even came with a free trombone. What a bargain!

[@chasedoghateaccount]

I think the better thing that come out of this is the mouth piece box, it just seems more fancy then it should be

[@gowackawall3537]

that trombone is a 10000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000% MISTAKE AND A DISGRACE TO ALL TROMBONES

[@UltraMaXAtAXX]

If this is the same company, I have a similar model with an F trigger. It was gifted to me by a friend, and I'm getting some okay tone out of it, albeit being 7 years removed from regular trombone playing. I'm still grateful.

[@richardgottlieb7226]

I play a Sax so i wouldn't know but are trombones suppose to have That curve in the tubing that you can see at 7:51

[@cure4thetitan801]

Richard Gottlieb It's supposed to be like that

[@imnotthatrandomkidd1947]

It’s supposed to be like that for comfort

[@llamasama4458]

both in the music world AND out of it? what else you using that lube for?

[@llamasama4458]

oh saxing and sexing, they go so well together

[@Frogmood]

it comes with tiny gloves im fuckingf crying

[@Shiny_Gliscor]

Why was this recommended to me at the side of a Corvette ZR1 review? Not complaining though that's a really cool vid you got there. thumbs up :)

[@jeasley1523]

musclcarmaniac98 dang you Doug Demuro

[@BenTheItalianPanda]

You are so goddamn sarcastic in every thing you say I love it

[@ninjastic525]

I use Nivea or ponds cold cream for my slide. It's really slick and fast as well as it lasts me a couple weeks all I need to do is spray it with water when I first put it on

[@Xrafice]

I guess I need to listen to a comparison video or something, because as someone who was first chair in an high school orchestra who won state in the 90s, while using an $80 trombone, this sounds fine, aside from being a little out of tune (solved with the tuning slide).

[@ajn465]

Trent's videos are always fun. This one is hilarious!

[@ambercheney754]

There is a trombone and trumpet at my school band room that are literally made entirely of plastic

[@VisserZer0]

pBones are still better than this thing xd

[@kamilee4123]

We have those as well, one's red and one's silver. Neither of our trombones (there's two) use them while actually seriously playing though.

[@pauls5745]

ptrumpet, pbone are actually quite nice. Trent reviewed one or the other. have a peek around YT. pro's actually were impressed with them

[@Not2CoolJazz]

Great companion video to the "world's cheapest trumpet". Thanks!

[@huntermcintosh8173]

that's the trombone my school gave me to play

[@aftertheelectrike1847]

I feel bad for you.

[@EnglishTMTB]

Trent: Random question I know, but did you really need the tuning slide completely pushed in? If so, is the instument itself generally flat (would that be another reason to recommend people don't buy it?) or is there something in your own playing that means you often find yourself with slides pushed all the way in? Just curious :)

[@jeremydavalosmusic]

As a trumpet player I can't speak out of experience for trombones, but what I've learned is that if you make the pitch you get out of the mouthpiece be the same one coming out of the bell exactly, then the tuning slide doesn't have to be out more than half a centimeter.

[@TrentHamilton]

That's how it came. I didn't bother to tune the instrument.

[@ThruThe9]

An case

[@reynolds1951]

I did enjoy the review , i myself do play trombone and have had a selmer largo , king 4b, and for the last 35 years have played on a Reynolds Contempora w/ red brass bell and an Argenta solid nickel silver

[@jabelsjabels]

Oh hey I bought one of these once. We used it as a prop for a film. Works great as a prop! I can vouch for the fact that the slide feels like you're scraping material off, though.

[@immahockeyfan]

Thank you for providing this public service. It would prove your point even more to the un-initiated if you played those excerpts back-to-back with a quality instrument.

[@blackstallion2095]

Maybe they put Grease in the slides that's why there are black oils in its slides,the grease is very dangerous for the Trombone's slides and even on its players..

[@EnglishTMTB]

I can't really speak for Trombones, but you get a similar "black oil" on valves when they're new - it's basically very fine metal dust (where the two parts rub together, a little comes off) that gets suspended in the lubricant and turns the lubricant black. It shouldn't be a major concern, it happens to a lot of new instruments (I've had that experience with every new instrument I've come into contact with).

[@glennso47]

True Friends Films Good for roller bearings though.

[@stormiiart]

I have a bad trombone. The paint rubbed off even though I have only had it for 3 years. It is a tenor trombone, but it is smaller than all the other trombones. The slide is loud, and the slide lick hit against the slide every time I pulled it in because the slide lock stuck out. The metal inside the slide peels off in flakes and even though I clean it, my spit comes out silver due to the silver flakes.

[@nathanealwhite6823]

because of you I found my passion playing trumpet and hopefully the euphonium now I'm the second best trumpet player in my school and I'm only in 7th garde

[@melutox]

god, it sounds as if there was a dead animal inside it, make it stop

[@missingno-xk7kp]

My Yamaha student's trombone looks identical other than the counterweight.

[@c.f.beeble]

It seems like it's guaranteed to make the player "clam" a few notes! 🙂 You make it sound much better than any student could, yet it still seems like it would serve best as a wall decoration. (The person could brag, "and it actually can be played!") I'd like to hear a side-by-side comparison, of the same piece, between this cheapie and a really fine instrument. In fact, it would be interesting to hear a quality MID-PRICED "student" instrument, (say $400-500), compared, too! Great videos, Trent! You are obviously a virtuoso brass player.

[@jakem8802]

At 3:31 did he/you say that he/you uses that as his/your preferred lubricant in and out of the music world?

[@theunwelcome]

as a player myself, the thing that bothers me most is that treble clef decal

[@rescue270]

I went to volunteer with a Salvation Army brass band and discovered that the only parts in bass clef were contrabass tuba and bass trombone. 1st and 2nd trombone were in transposing treble clef, just like trumpet music. You had to be a trumpet player in order to play tenor trombone for them.

[@ruckanitepreacher5618]

You are good on all of the instruments I have heard you on but somewhat better on trombone and baritone. Thank you once again for the informative and entertaining videos.

[@B24ninja]

Oh my god I can't stop laughing. At first I thought this was some SNL sketch but than I checked his channel and theres so much more. I don't know maybe he's doing it ironically but oh my god it's been 12 legitamate minutes and I'm still laughing

[@DerrickKelley-kw1fu]

I love that people realize what the meaning of true brass music is, I play the Trombone myself, And I have a passion for the sound of wind instruments, They mean alot to me

[@Tarzan118]

I'm a Bass Clarinet player and even I can tell how bad this sounds.

[@_cynth_wave]

I'm a percussionist, and I'm pretty sure that that specific trombone would sound better as a percussion instrument.

[@jaredkhan8743]

TenZEDin Well, u don't have to be a cook to know that bad food is..

[@kamilee4123]

I'm a percussionist and string musician and I can tell it's not good. It sounds kinda....messy. Probably because the slide is stiff to operate which makes faster playing and jumps between positions harder.

[@claudiusmaye]

Greetings how do you move from different brass instruments and still able to play them without​ embouchure issues? For instance after playing the trombone my lips cannot play the trumpet. The notes just not coming out clear and almost not out.

[@nikomitrione]

5:00 I love how the first image is "MADE IN CHINA" XD

[@henryprice7817]

I am a euphonium player and I am so hurt that they didn't change the spelling on the box, they just kept euphomum

[@rodrigroudon1872]

I didn’t notice that

[@marycomiskey530]

"I put some Slide-O-Mix on there, which is my preferred form of lubricant, both in the music world and out of it" - Trent Hamilton 2016

[@landonsellers4136]

i've played trombone for 2 years and i almost died watching this because of the pictures

[@TXGrackle]

At first glance, I thought this was the Etude 100 series student trombone. Which I happen to own.

[@Adahop]

I used to have one that would beat this, I think. It was cheaper and even by looking at it things seemed off. The bell looked to be meant for a bass trombone but the rest was a tenor. It was the most unwieldy instrument I ever used. I gave it freely to a cousin that was into music at the time. I held onto my Bach and my Holton, of course.

[@mitchellhintzsche993]

This completely gives me nostalgia of my first trombone

[@onzaday]

I love how when you play a cheap instrument, a slideshow starts with pictures of everything wrong with The Cheap Instrument.

[@JonatasMonte]

I can agree with him on the turn off effect. I once tried to get into music and had a chinese instrument for practice. Man it was a torture to play it and I ended up giving up. The costs also don't help much outside of the US.

[@andytorre4858]

"If the glove don't fit you must acquit"

[@devinkamer2500]

5:43 + Put on Captions, it a perfect description of this trombone

[@shiningarmor2838]

Devin Kamer [Music]

[@boogiemeister9581]

This came in a recomended for a nintendo switch video. That's incredible, that is hillarious.

[@beefjerkeytree643]

i bought an etude student trombone for starters and didnt have any corrision and it came with a decant mouth piece and sturdy case and was in tune with itself plus it only cost 115 us dollors

[@kingofnoobs6098]

I got invited to my school's Jazz band. We played 25 or 6 to 4 in the hallway. The scary part is I didn't see any double barred 16th notes. I can see those in my future.

[@joeyflint7232]

Unfortunately, my mom picked me up this trombone at a garage sale because I needed one a few years ago. I stopped playing about a year after that and just a couple weeks ago I messed around with it again. And no matter what I did, it just did not sound good. It was in tune and all that jazz but it just wasn't cooperating. The last trombone I played before that was a very high quality bass trombone that I played in my high school jazz band and man is there a difference.

[@AndrewPerlak]

That mouthpiece box is the same box as my tuba mouth piece... Best mouthpiece I have ever owned