The Cimbasso, Part 1

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Trent Hamilton

Trent Hamilton

Күн бұрын

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@codykokinda
@codykokinda 11 ай бұрын
It's always a treat to see a video from you in my feed. Hope you're doing well!
@TiagoNugentComposer
@TiagoNugentComposer 11 ай бұрын
As a composer, I LOVE the cimbasso for big, loud passages. Tuba is great, but very dark even when playing louder dynamics. Cimbasso just has that snap like trombones and trumpets, especially on short notes!
@Turt3752
@Turt3752 11 ай бұрын
Cimbasso is literally just if contrabass trombone was actually a good idea lmao
@TiagoNugentComposer
@TiagoNugentComposer 11 ай бұрын
@@Turt3752 Pretty much, although sometimes on scores for big action movies you'll see both contra bone AND a couple cimbassi which is a bit overkill imo
@ferretyluv
@ferretyluv 11 ай бұрын
@@Turt3752Contrabass trombones exist already, don’t they?
@Turt3752
@Turt3752 11 ай бұрын
@@TiagoNugentComposer can’t have too much overkill when Tom Cruise is on screen
@Turt3752
@Turt3752 11 ай бұрын
@@ferretyluv yes they exist, they’re just generally ridiculous in my opinion as a low brass player. For all cimbasso’s faults I genuinely think that in all contexts that don’t require a glissando cimbasso is just better. Personal opinion
@manracmolactrac
@manracmolactrac 11 ай бұрын
I love the cimbasso and am very jealous of you for having one. I find it interesting that it seemingly has none of the negative characteristics/associations of the valve trombone (stuffiness, intonation etc) despite being essentially the same instrument type just down a 4th or 5th.
@TracksWithDax
@TracksWithDax 11 ай бұрын
Interestingly, it popped up on Reddit a week or two ago asking , if the cimbasso is essentially the valve trombone equivalent of the contrabass trombone, where is the prevalence of a valve bass trombone (bass bore and large bell). Turns out Thein makes exactly that, complete with 4 valves. I'd be curious how that plays compared to a tenor valve trombone.
@BlameItOnGreg
@BlameItOnGreg 11 ай бұрын
I’m surprised you didn’t mention that the cimbasso has become very commonly used in film scoring. With how “uncommon” the instrument itself is, most people have definitely heard it before because of that.
@UmmerDr
@UmmerDr 11 ай бұрын
New Zealand composer James Verdi 😂. Oh how I love these videos ...
@ferretyluv
@ferretyluv 11 ай бұрын
It sounds like a cross between a tuba and a trombone. My dad says Verdi’s Forza del Destino is nearly impossible to play for 3rd trombone. I told him about the Cimbasso and now he realizes it’s because the part was written for it and not trombone.
@TheMrPeteChannel
@TheMrPeteChannel 6 ай бұрын
Maybe it would play better on a superbone?
@MurphyTheBandChild
@MurphyTheBandChild 11 ай бұрын
I'm a bass trombone player, and one of these is definitely on my instrument bucket list. I think they're fantastic.
@benseac
@benseac Жыл бұрын
I got a cimbasso a few weeks ago and love playing it.
@willy_wombat
@willy_wombat 11 ай бұрын
Great! Splendid presentation ❤
@Xzyum00
@Xzyum00 11 ай бұрын
I was playing BBb contrabass trombone alongside a tuba in a concert band and the color that we complemented each other with, the timbre, it was absolutely gorgeous and it provided such a wonderful foundation for the band. Everybody in the band loved it. I'm sure the Cimbasso would provide a similar timbre.
@josephredingmusic
@josephredingmusic 11 ай бұрын
Studying 19th century opera (particularly the score to Rigoletto), and Verdi uses Cimbasso a lot. Thank you so much for this video!
@GaryBadger
@GaryBadger 11 ай бұрын
Love it! Thank you for setting the record straight on Verdi's origin too.
@waynesteffen3262
@waynesteffen3262 11 ай бұрын
That’s Joe Green to you!
@TrentHamilton
@TrentHamilton 11 ай бұрын
Just waiting for someone to update Wikipedia using me as a source.
@GaryBadger
@GaryBadger 11 ай бұрын
@@TrentHamilton I’ll get on to that now…
@michaelimbesi2314
@michaelimbesi2314 11 ай бұрын
I never expected to encounter a sound completely novel to me in a a few bars of “Frosty the Snowman”, but then I clicked on this video. That cimbasso is incredible. It has the clean articulation of a trumpet, the tone and the punch of a trombone, and the pitch of a tuba. Truly a treat for the ears.
@ronniemillsap
@ronniemillsap 11 ай бұрын
truly makes my day brighter when I see you've uploaded. I will never take your channel or content for granted again
@ronniemillsap
@ronniemillsap 11 ай бұрын
after reflecting I would like to play one of these. I played trumpet and baritone, seems around a midpoint of ranges to what Im used to. Neat how you described that the tuba's give more of a breathy foundational tone to the music but although this could not do that, it gave the opposite, more like a tromboneish or something type of ring. I hadnt herd one quite like it.
@SamuelPlaysBrass
@SamuelPlaysBrass 11 ай бұрын
A surprising amount of modern cinema features cimbassi in its soundtracks! They are used to fantastic affect on suspenseful or “rougher” sounding passages demanding both presence and “bite” from the bass.
@patrikalm7514
@patrikalm7514 11 ай бұрын
Another great video from one of the best channels on youtube. Great instrument and interesting history. Thank you Trent, looking forward for part 2.
@dogsareawesome9197
@dogsareawesome9197 5 ай бұрын
The cimbasso: a cool mix between a trombone and a tuba Baritone: lame mix between a trombone and a tuba
@12799MaDeuce
@12799MaDeuce 11 ай бұрын
I've waited for this video forever. Such an unusual instrument, yet more mainstream than some of the oddballs you've featured, i was always surprised you hadn't featured it yet. Thanks for sharing!
@Violin_master
@Violin_master 11 ай бұрын
That’s a really cool instrument I’m a brass player and love the sound that it mkaes
@407kc9
@407kc9 11 ай бұрын
That instrument is awesome!
@jeffreyyoung4104
@jeffreyyoung4104 11 ай бұрын
I played baritone for a while in band and this cimbasso would have been fun to try
@luca-ne9rg
@luca-ne9rg 11 ай бұрын
I've been wanting a Trent Hamilton video on the cimbasso for so long
@jakepatterson8815
@jakepatterson8815 11 ай бұрын
When you make the part 2 video, would you give a full tour of the instrument? Like, what it looks like in the middle, at the bottom, etc. I'd be really interested in that
@svbarryduckworth628
@svbarryduckworth628 11 ай бұрын
I would like to see how and if it breaks down. It would make sense for the upper section to be removable in a similar way to how a trombone's bell section comes off of the slide. However I can't seem to see such a screw coupling in the video where it would make sense to have one. If it doesn't come apart I can see how the case would need to be ridiculously large to protect such an awkwardly large and weird-shape if it were all one piece.
@william_coasters
@william_coasters 11 ай бұрын
@@svbarryduckworth628it does come apart, you can see the screw holding the bell section to the body at about 0:46 , to the left of the first vertical brace for the bell.
@svbarryduckworth628
@svbarryduckworth628 11 ай бұрын
Thanks. It's hard to see on a phone screen.
@loinorn
@loinorn 11 ай бұрын
​@@svbarryduckworth6280:47
@RetiredBrass
@RetiredBrass 11 ай бұрын
Thank you for yet another interesting and informative video, Trent! Apparently, the name Cimbasso is a corruption of the abbreviation for the early keyed instrument you describe, the English Bass Horn (that looks like a premature Ophicleide), in Italian known as Corno Inglese di Basso, which was often abbreviated (handwritten at the beginning of the score to denote the instrument) as C.In.Basso and thus became Cimbasso.
@flippy6553
@flippy6553 11 ай бұрын
About 10 years ago, Orchestra Hall in Chicago hosted all the low brass players from the major groups in the United States. When Ricardo Mutti say "this was Arnold Jacob's Chimbasso", the entire audience gave a standing ovation.
@EdenStoneReal
@EdenStoneReal 11 ай бұрын
Been waiting years for this video!
@TracksWithDax
@TracksWithDax 11 ай бұрын
Tone sounding great Trent! I love the cimbasso, such a bold sound. I'd love to have one someday
@veiledzorba
@veiledzorba 11 ай бұрын
Good to see you back!
@Euphonium_boi
@Euphonium_boi 11 ай бұрын
“And that’s the different between an Eb tuba and an Eb cimasOOoOoOOOO-“
@4fun1957
@4fun1957 4 ай бұрын
Saw one for the first time on the Vienna Philharmonic summer concert 2024. Cool!
@NeilABliss
@NeilABliss 11 ай бұрын
Love me a cimbasso, had the use of one, a few years back. Wish I had one today. 😢
@Gabriel-yd4bq
@Gabriel-yd4bq 11 ай бұрын
Very glad to see a new video from you Trent! Great quality as usual
@normalpair
@normalpair 11 ай бұрын
You have inspired me to have a wall in my basement dedicated to various brass instruments. I bet it's wonderful to be surrounded by so many instruments
@michaeltroster9059
@michaeltroster9059 11 ай бұрын
Nice to see you on the screen again Trent. I never cease to be amazed at the creations of brass tubing combinations that have appeared in the planet. I imagine nobody makes Cimbassos any longer, but I may be wrong. I’d love to see the case.😋
@bionicleman1231
@bionicleman1231 11 ай бұрын
When I was at eastman I got to play don harry's cimbasso in an italian opera overture. He had frankensteined the thing himself out of a marching baritone bell and a cut-down conn tuba valve section. It was so much fun absolutely honking on it lol
@geraividet
@geraividet 11 ай бұрын
So happy you are back! Greetings from Florida.
@seattlefan8890
@seattlefan8890 11 ай бұрын
Please show the case in part 2.
@Lorbic
@Lorbic 11 ай бұрын
That instrument looks amazing, very intimidating. You keep fueling my addicting to brass instruments.
@cetologist
@cetologist 11 ай бұрын
I wish I saw the cimbasso more! I love the instrument.
@Railenroute
@Railenroute 10 ай бұрын
I love the Jooly comforting sound of it, thank you for the video!
@Mike49if
@Mike49if 11 ай бұрын
Love your videos, really glad to see you back on YT!
@stephielulu9096
@stephielulu9096 11 ай бұрын
Wow! 🤩 What a contraption 😍 love it 😊
@rachelpackinski4867
@rachelpackinski4867 11 ай бұрын
always great to see an upload Trent, always a highlight when theres a new video from you
@massmanute
@massmanute 11 ай бұрын
Great to see you again!
@Expired_Twinkie23
@Expired_Twinkie23 11 ай бұрын
lets hope we don't to wait years for a part 2!
@Chucklingsaneman
@Chucklingsaneman 11 ай бұрын
French horn flashbacks 😂
@vexillologist9492
@vexillologist9492 11 ай бұрын
I could not be happier about your recent content, Trent. Really awesome stuff!!
@xander1052
@xander1052 11 ай бұрын
Nice to see you back in my feed Trent.
@TheMrAshley2010
@TheMrAshley2010 11 ай бұрын
Remembering that awful time he dropped the contra bass trombone, I'm just about sweating with nervousness as I see Trent switch between hands holding the instrument and the had he is gesturing with.
@majcrash
@majcrash 11 ай бұрын
I believe the bottom rests on the floor, so it would be harder to drop. Still, it's probably an expensive instrument, so care in handling it is important.
@АртемийШурпенков
@АртемийШурпенков 11 ай бұрын
Congratulations! 🤗 Mattis Cederberg from WDR BIG BAND is cool modern cimbasso plaer, I really like him! ❤
@CarpetCleaner0
@CarpetCleaner0 10 ай бұрын
One of my favorite instruments, ive always wanted one of these😔
@valbastiancontraio2795
@valbastiancontraio2795 13 күн бұрын
I played the cimbasso in a marching band ,it was not mine ,I usually play the cornet and the trombone
@petezzapog
@petezzapog 11 ай бұрын
Lovely video, always glad to see a post from you 😊
@mbiggs9821
@mbiggs9821 11 ай бұрын
I never knew how much I wanted a Cimbasso!
@collectingspace508
@collectingspace508 11 ай бұрын
Will you be doing a comparison between this and a standard compensating tuba in the future?
@BKrystall
@BKrystall 11 ай бұрын
Good to see you back. Sometimes it’s good to take a break.
@RedWingStudios
@RedWingStudios 11 ай бұрын
I've been waiting for this video for sooo long!
@timbortner1014
@timbortner1014 11 ай бұрын
Thank you for providing such great content! As a bass trombonist, I’ve wondered how it compares to the bass trombone. I wonder how it directly compares to that Orsi Contrabass Valve Trombone you reviewed.
@guczoghyyamawaki
@guczoghyyamawaki 11 ай бұрын
I kinda like cimbassos. If I had the money, I'd love to make a contrabass superbone. 4+ valves like a cimbasso (preferably compensating), but also a slide like a contrabass trombone. That would be awesome. I'd prefer silver/nickel plated with gold highlights, maybe
@jamesburnett7085
@jamesburnett7085 10 ай бұрын
I love cimbasso. I have been wishing you would return. Are you back?
@LA6NPA
@LA6NPA 11 ай бұрын
Heeey! Welcome back! Hope you're doing allright!
@RockStarOscarStern634
@RockStarOscarStern634 11 ай бұрын
The Cimbasso is a big ol Contrabass Valve Trombone
@bikkies
@bikkies Жыл бұрын
That's a very interesting looking instrument.
@normalpair
@normalpair 11 ай бұрын
It's similar to a trombone, but also vertical like a tenor horn
@phil41055
@phil41055 11 ай бұрын
The perfect tuba substitute for a ska band lol
@CraigRodmellMusic
@CraigRodmellMusic 11 ай бұрын
Interesting, thank you. I'd never heard of this instrument before.
@davidbrogan432
@davidbrogan432 11 ай бұрын
You came back !* 🎉
@trisymphony
@trisymphony 11 ай бұрын
Just had a quick google - wow, these things are expensive!
@adriendecroy7254
@adriendecroy7254 5 ай бұрын
Can you put a bassoon reed on it and make a cimbassoon?
@erichd9460
@erichd9460 11 ай бұрын
Only Trent could manage to compare the low brass section to a sausage!!! 😂
@pverlee
@pverlee 9 ай бұрын
James Verdi. Joe’s little brother!!! 😂
@adamzimmerman2464
@adamzimmerman2464 11 ай бұрын
I have played Tuba a little bit before and I now own a Contrabass Trombone in F but I have never played a Cimbasso, but I would like to try playing one at some point and maybe buy one at some point but its hard to imagine that I would like playing it more than I like playing my Contrabass Trombone lol.
@xaitat
@xaitat 11 ай бұрын
Well this is pretty much a valve Contrabbass Trombone
@alexcarter8807
@alexcarter8807 11 ай бұрын
Wow it probably cost as much to ship as it would cost for a person to fly from Alabama or wherever it was, to your place in NZ.
@Digital-Dan
@Digital-Dan 11 ай бұрын
Fun. Need to continue to work on the similes, though.
@ndp8
@ndp8 11 ай бұрын
I'd love to hear you play a range of sounds on the instrument, highlighting the range of sounds...
@TheStrangeMood
@TheStrangeMood 11 ай бұрын
Just a general recommendation to check out Mattis Cedeburg some excellent cimbasso playing!
@NoahShiley
@NoahShiley 11 ай бұрын
Random thing to say, but does anybody know where to find a good priced vanhanni bass trombone mouthpiece? I can't really find one, and i really need it for jazz band. Also, great video Trent
@Aiiliceno
@Aiiliceno 11 ай бұрын
HOW DO U GET ENOUGH OIL FOR ALL THOSE INSTRUMENTS
@jgoff76
@jgoff76 11 ай бұрын
How different is this vs a contrabass trombone as far as sound goes? I’ve heard both but not together.
@cimbassovr
@cimbassovr 10 ай бұрын
😂😂😂straordinario il musicista neozolandese James Verdi😂😂😂 il grande GIUSEPPE VERDI che pretendeva il cimbasso e non il bass tuba
@arisowizard7178
@arisowizard7178 11 ай бұрын
do you know what the additional up to 3 valves (to a total of 7) do on other cimbassi?
@twistedtrails8128
@twistedtrails8128 11 ай бұрын
i luv the sound of that thing!
@Mr.Maddinklesplutz
@Mr.Maddinklesplutz 9 ай бұрын
You should do a video on a piccolo french horn
@z99ywiec
@z99ywiec 11 ай бұрын
Yey! Thank you for the video!
@BeesKneesBenjamin
@BeesKneesBenjamin 11 ай бұрын
It looks like a bass valve trombone, but it probably was so unweidly to play, they bent the "slide" section down and put it on a pin hahaha
@jamesburnett7085
@jamesburnett7085 10 ай бұрын
I greatly miss Trent Hamilton and wish him well. Moreover, I yearn for his return to KZbin.
@chimera9922
@chimera9922 11 ай бұрын
So is this really just a contrabass valve trombone?
@apolloskyfacer5842
@apolloskyfacer5842 11 ай бұрын
Yes. that's my 'take' on it as well. A Contrabass (Valved) Trombone in Eb, made into a very awkward shape.
@xaitat
@xaitat 11 ай бұрын
Pretty much. Verdi literally calls the Cimbasso part "Trombone Contrabbasso" The Cimbasso plays a lot better though, the contrabbass trombone is a bit ridiculous
@dennisdooley7807
@dennisdooley7807 11 ай бұрын
can you do more videos with the cimbasso
@doronkanar5283
@doronkanar5283 11 ай бұрын
James Verdi 😹
@MazichMusic
@MazichMusic 11 ай бұрын
Have you used this horn in a Tuba Christmas event?
@wcvp
@wcvp 11 ай бұрын
I had no idea that is how cimbasso is pronounced... I guess it makes sense though
@seymour_as2498
@seymour_as2498 11 ай бұрын
Don’t break it like your contra I believe ☠️
@tomnicbl367
@tomnicbl367 11 ай бұрын
As a (BBb) tuba player, the story made me very sad
@majcrash
@majcrash 11 ай бұрын
What brand did you get?
@jamesburnett7085
@jamesburnett7085 10 ай бұрын
Are you back? When was this posted?
@bommeryeet4982
@bommeryeet4982 11 ай бұрын
Wonderful!
@JohannaA.5013
@JohannaA.5013 11 ай бұрын
Cimbasso vs. Tuba vs. Contrabass Trombone.
@cheukd9984
@cheukd9984 6 ай бұрын
What brands is this cimbasso?
@stevep7950
@stevep7950 11 ай бұрын
Was it delivered with the mouthpiece you have there ?
@richardkelso9478
@richardkelso9478 11 ай бұрын
Fascinating, Trent. Never heard of this beastie, and now O want one. Dangit
@bayfish_9156
@bayfish_9156 11 ай бұрын
do a mouthpiece swap with a trumpet and trombone
@dcallan812
@dcallan812 9 ай бұрын
As a euphonium player I want one. great video 2x👍
@aztec11
@aztec11 11 ай бұрын
So kewl! Do you have any clips w/the brass band?
@william_coasters
@william_coasters 11 ай бұрын
There is a short on his channel of him playing Christmas songs on the cimbasso.
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