Trevor Jacob questions , answers and pilot reaction to crash video

[@GreatMichiganBushCo]

I'm by no meeting saying this video doesn't have some sketchy stuff going on, and I have a hunch is to what happened. I'm just saying some of the stuff isn't as red flag as people make it out to be, and other things are big red flags. The fuel valve, some bottle stashed in his pant leg, Not looking for a place to land, wearing a sport parachute rig. Those are all really strange and not normal pilot behavior. By the way the aircraft does have an N number, 2" numbers 1/2 way up the vertical stab blurred out.

[@josiahrickens4556]

Im not a pilot I'm a former vol firefighter and rescue but here's why I think about this I don't think he had permission from the FAA and if this was a stunt to promote a wallet thts the wrong way to go about it

[@mattf49006]

Here is the tcraft in better days.. kzbin.info/www/bejne/bHaaf598n9ajqc0

[@myrongaines5542]

It's fire extinguisher tucked in his pants leg

[@GreatMichiganBushCo]

How do you know it's a fire extinguisher? It's something but I never even see the color red.

[@GreatMichiganBushCo]

@@josiahrickens4556 I'd agree it's the wrong way, but the wallet received a lot of publicity.

[@hectorpilot7565]

Hi, I am a private pilot from Argentina, in my early sixties. When I saw the video of this "accident", I was really furious. I had two engine failures in my twenties, a J3 and a C-150. In both cases I could land with no scratch to the airplanes or myself. I recently purchased a Bristell LSA, and the dealer asked me if I wanted the optional parachute for the aircraft. My answer was no, it has wings, I'll put it somewhere if the engine fails. I hope this guy pays for the damage to the aviation community.

[@GreatMichiganBushCo]

If he bailed out as a publicity stunt I sure hope he pays somehow. There may be damage to the aviation community that is unable to recovered. Once legislation is put in place it sure doesn't go away.

[@tsmall07]

Parachutes on airplanes aren't for engine failures. They're for structural failures or for loss of situational awareness in IMC.

[@GreatMichiganBushCo]

@@tsmall07 structural failure yes. Loss of situation awareness I don't agree with. I can see loss of control in IMC, I'm not sure I agree with all ballistic shoot usage guidance..

[@tsmall07]

@@GreatMichiganBushCo Loss of control in IMC is what I meant. I can definitely see people using them in the wrong circumstances though.

[@asquare9316]

nice Hector. I am doing flight training for light sport cert in USA in a Bristell LSA. cool planes.

[@WereAlreadyHere]

There is absolutely no question that he did this intentionally.. Im no pilot but just the way he talks it is beyond obvious that this was fake. Then add in all the red flags that actual pilots are noticing and just.. ya.

[@GreatMichiganBushCo]

Yeah. He's not going to win a Oscar.

[@MyNathanking]

About all the red flags that actual pilots are noticing: Are any "real pilots" noticing that the plane that crashed looks nothing like a real airplane but instead only a box with wings on it? It doesn't even look like a real airplane at all and yet it's somehow flying. Piece of shit.

[@GreatMichiganBushCo]

@@MyNathanking a Taylorcraft looks kind of like a box with wings on it. It's an old steel framed aircraft covered in fabric. It's square. Add some distortion from cameras, It's going to look really different. I have no doubt that your point is real. Look at the Taylor Craft a video I have in my channel and you can see that flat square looking rear fuselage.

[@MyNathanking]

@@GreatMichiganBushCo I hear you --- but it still seems like something is fake --- for why does it still look like a normal plane when seen from a direct sideview? I believe you when you say distortion --- but I wouldn't expect that much distortion from a simple change in camera angle.

[@GreatMichiganBushCo]

@@MyNathanking sometimes when I put a GoPro on my plane looks weird. Especially when it's close to the fuselage. The closer you get to the fuselage the weirder it looks.

[@dugsdale]

I'm not a pilot, merely an enthusiast. But everything about his demeanor once the engine "quit" says "Bad Community Theatre Acting" to me. Instead of looking for somewhere to set the plane down, and focusing ALL his attention on that, he's busy mugging for the camera(s) the whole time. If the engine-out was truly a surprise, and there were a few alternative places to set the plane down (as others have pointed out), and you're looking at your own life possibly ending if you don't get your responses exactly right, you don't have the intention span or frankly the interest in speechifying to the camera all these overdone "OMG OMG OMGs." Never seen the guy before, and I could be wrong, but it stinks like "Bad Community Theatre Acting" in response to a thoroughly planned event, to me. The FAA absolutely better be investigating whether his sponsors were complicit in this, if FAA doesn't want a rash of copycat "accidents" like this in the future.

[@GreatMichiganBushCo]

You don't think he's going to get nominated for an Oscar any time soon? 🤣 His attention to the cameras it does make it look a little suspicious. Grabbing the selfie stick when he jumps... Such a skydiver thing to do.

[@aboveall9521]

@@GreatMichiganBushCo TO be fair, he could get nominated. Think the bar has been lowered drastically more and more the past few years, so he might have a shot.

[@GreatMichiganBushCo]

@@aboveall9521 What a statement on current entertainment in the US. 🙂

[@jaredjaguar]

LOL 😂

[@joeshmoe7967]

but it was 'excellent community theatre acting'......to the deaf and blind...no offence to the deaf and blind.

[@zombiekiller2220]

one thing trent palmer brought up was, his door was closed for the whole flight then when it clipped to the scene with the engine failure, his door was already opened. which is fishy.

[@GreatMichiganBushCo]

I'll have to watch his video, sounds like he had some good points i may have missed.

[@tektkite7255]

@@GreatMichiganBushCo you did and it seems you are a doofus

[@control_the_pet_population]

@@tektkite7255 I don't get how he's a "doofus"... I mean he came right out and said that the airplane appeared "prepped to be scuttled", he seemed to think this was a publicity stunt. The only different angle he took was to explain the lack of showing the "restart procedure / checklist" on an airplane where that could be tried multiple times in the space of 5-10 seconds.

[@GreatMichiganBushCo]

@@tektkite7255 Says the guy who flies kites I couldn't resist. 🤣 I just try to keep an open mind, sometimes things are not as they appear and jumping to conclusion and not considering all angles have gotten me in trouble before.kzbin.infogaming/emoji/7ff574f2/emoji_u1f923.png

[@tektkite7255]

@@GreatMichiganBushCo ok doofus. whatever you say. Sure, this totally looked like an unplanned accident. Oh hey, I just realize, I own a really cool bridge that I am selling ... you might be interested

[@HillbillyRednecking]

His front fuel tank is full, this was brought to our attention by a previous mechanic of this exact plane, you can see the indicator sticking up in front of the windshield on the right

[@GreatMichiganBushCo]

I was looking for the float but didn't see it. I'll take another closer look.

[@tsmall07]

That was the header tank that he was talking about, not the wing tank. He said that to prove that Trevor didn't run out of fuel. The tank discussed in this video is the wing tank

[@GreatMichiganBushCo]

@@tsmall07 The header tank is the main tank. The wing tanks and auxiliary tank that feeds into the header tank. So as long as there's fuel in the header tank the engine is getting gas. So if the header tank head fuel then the aircraft hadn't run out of gas.

[@tsmall07]

@@GreatMichiganBushCo I misread the original reply. I thought he was saying the wing tank was full.

[@GreatMichiganBushCo]

@@tsmall07 yeah that wingtake is sketchy. It's disabled, and clearly so in the video. I'd be interested in seeing if the FAA will look for a log entry, or if you're even allowed to disable that wing tank without a 337.

[@Bushmasterpilot]

Its a disgrace to the aviation community. His licence should be revoked, period.

[@GreatMichiganBushCo]

Unless there was a waiver and he went through the correct channels that is what I expect to happen.

[@Mike-01234]

@@GreatMichiganBushCo I would have thought that too but NTSB has a report for the crash if it was planned why would there be any report. If he made reports that is making false statements to a federal agency a crime.

[@dalh598.1]

@@Mike-01234 I definitely agree with you there, but also, perhaps it's just a formality regardless of how planned it was. We'll have to see when the investigation is completed

[@dominicklittle9828]

@@GreatMichiganBushCo i think your right. i dont think hes dumb enough to film his crime and then upload it without having his lawyer figure it out and weigh his options. i bet he knew he would get people makin all these videos about him makin it super popular make his channel grow. im wondering if his parachute advice is just to seem cool.

[@dominicklittle9828]

but him pretending its legit and its a sponsored video to go spread some of his friends ashes from the plane and pretends he actually just had an engine out so he can skydive and film the plane crash is what made me realize his stories cant be taken seriously anymore. def lost me as a viewer

[@ginacalabrese3869]

Look how dry the bushes and trees are. This could have easily caused an enormous wildfire. Just the heat of the engine, oil, and "unusable fuel" still left in the tank could ignite a fire and destroy thousands of acres and possibly people's homes and businesses depending on the winds. Just the other day a fire destroyed over a thousand homes in Colorado because of a tiny fuel source and strong winds in the middle of winter. It literally snowed the next day. This guy is a danger to society.

[@GreatMichiganBushCo]

If it was intentional I couldnt agree more.

[@jessicaj8564]

@@GreatMichiganBushCo “if it was intentional” PLEASE 😂😂

[@GreatMichiganBushCo]

We don't know the whole story and I sure don't want to jump to conclusions no matter how guilty someone may seem. Have you watched watched "12 Angry Men." 😂

[@scotty2tone]

@@GreatMichiganBushCo Your moderation is really refreshing. The FAA and NTSB need to do their investigations before we can make any conclusions. That being said I have my gut feelings here, but they ain't worth much. PS if you like 12 Angry Men you should also check out Rashomon.

[@GreatMichiganBushCo]

@@scotty2tone thank you for noticing. I have my hunch also.

[@Yellow_cub]

I’m sure the FAA and NTSB are doing an in depth investigation. They likely have received a multitude of requests or complaints about it from viewers. If he is found to have done this on purpose he will lose his license at a very minimum. Fines are likely and prison time would even be possible if another government agency got involved. If the plane was insured he would really be in trouble if he filed an insurance claim. The insurance fraud aspect would actually get him in the most trouble.

[@GreatMichiganBushCo]

The FAA says they are investigating. After a month the preliminary is just about do out.

[@donmoore7785]

@@pegg00 The FAA is investigating - they said so.

[@bbtman1]

@@pegg00 More altitude = more unpredictability for an airplane without a pilot behind it

[@bbtman1]

​@@pegg00 That is because 172's have a Positive Static Stability yes it can be calculated and will return to a level attitude EVENTUALLY, but you also have to take in the other forces acting on the airplane, if you notice when he jumps out of that plane it effects the attitude of the aircraft, also prevailing winds, and weather conditions can change the flight path of the aircraft. The aircraft he was flying I'm pretty sure has an unstable airframe though I could be wrong.

[@Pissgremlin5964]

@@pegg00 you really think you can call the FAA and say "hey I want to shoot a video for a commercial. Is it ok if I bail out of a plane and let it ghost fly wherever the fuck.". No hearings. No documentation. No ruling. Someone just says "ya sure Trevor. Go ahead." Im pretty sure there would be quite a bit of planning involved in a stunt that would require multiple people and agencies to make sure no one got hurt and nothing bad happened. Not a single person has come forward to say this was a supervised and safely done stunt. This guy is shitting bricks right now and I hope they whack him so bad his mother feels it.

[@shanetyson6989]

I'm a Scout (What you guys in the Staes know as Boy Scouts) Leader in South Africa, In SA we have three different types of Scout Groups, Land, Sea and Air, each focusing on their individual disciplines, land , sea and air/aviation. We are an Air Scout Hroup. What we would have given to get our hands on a small vintage aircraft like that to enable our youth the opportunity of exposure to aviation is incomprehensible. Then to see it totally destroyed by this fool breaks my heart. One would think that being privileged to have his pilot's license and the opportunity to experiance aviation would be an indication of a passion for flying and aircraft. To destroy a perfectly good aircraft like that is a down and outright sin, especially when there are disadvantaged youth that would love the opportunity to learn to fly in it had it been donated to an Organisation like ours. One only wonders how many views he could have got posting a video of himself donating it to a worthy cause. Over and above this, it's just really sad to see yet another piece of aviation history gone. If that was a 1940 airframe as they say it was, that would make it 82 years old. What a tragedy to loose another. If found guilty of all the wrongs that he seems to have done, they should sentance him to community service at a aviation museum. Perhaps he will then learn to appreciate how beautiful light aircraft are. PS, if there are any other clowns out their planning to destroy an aircraft as a popularity scam, rather contact me we will give you all the publicity you want. Just dont kill another plane. 😢

[@GreatMichiganBushCo]

I love your thought process! Public service at an aviation museum! You're right, had he taken this and done good deeds for kids, giving free rides, spend time introducing people who have a love for aviation to airplanes this video would have been so much better. I think scouting gave you a good insight to life and the good one person can do!

[@wallyman292]

Unfortunately, I think this guy is a douchebag who thought this was a great idea for views on YT. I hope he gets the book thrown at him personally, if for nothing else than destroying such an awesome relic of aviation history.

[@rowenhusky]

It is terrible to destroy an airplane. It's like burning a book :(.

[@GreatMichiganBushCo]

@@rowenhusky unless it's a Cirrus then you just pull the cord and let the insurance company pay for it. Even Cirrus thinks it's okay to destroy a Cirrus.🤣

[@Doomsday971]

No, I dont agree with your punishment. This guy shouldnt breathe a breath of free air for the rest of his life. I would bury him under the prison if I was the judge that he will stand in front of here soon. This was no accident and the fact there are so many red flags in the video it gives me a headache watching it. First 3 rules are aviate, navigate, communicate and he didnt even get to the first step. He blew it off to "oh there was no where to land", BS. There were several areas to put a plane down that has a stall speed of under 40 mph. The fact there was zero fire tells me there was no fuel onboard. Cameras set up to only capture the port side of the plane and his face? Looked like there were 5 cameras on that plane, Im interested in the one that was over his shoulder that would show the instrument panel. This dude is going away for hopefully life. The only way I would allow him to do work at a museum would be if the guests were allowed to hurl bricks at his head and he wears a sign stating that he crashed the plane on purpose. Maybe even make him beg for forgiveness from every guest and if they refuse to give it to him then he gets tased. Oh I would go broke visiting that museum just to extract some revenge on him each and every day.

[@nickxidis9571]

Fair question about sponsors & KZbin providing incentives for this type of stunt.

[@GreatMichiganBushCo]

The incentives are always there. Did the sponsor know the plan and if they did how much the responsibility do they share? Again I really hope this was just a publicity stunt with letters of waiver information from state and local authorities. If so Trevor is a genius and the plan worked.

[@Yellow_cub]

@@GreatMichiganBushCo I think that stuff would be public info. Usually a Notam would be published advising other aircraft in the vicinity. No different from a drone legally flying in otherwise restricted airspace. When the drone pilot takes all the right steps, it’s fully safe and legal…. But it’s no secret. There have been so many people alerted of this, and no one has come forward to say there was a notam. I haven’t personally researched whether one existed, but I’m guessing if it did, we would all know.

[@GreatMichiganBushCo]

@@Yellow_cub I would guess we'd know too. I haven't went back and looked at the modems on the 24th of November.

[@donmoore7785]

YT is not providing an "incentive" for crazy stunts. The fools that would believe stuff like this are legit, and who follow people like this, provide the incentive.

[@GreatMichiganBushCo]

@pyropulse It is on the idiot who does the stupid act, but is that video monetized? Is KZbin making money off the video if so that could change things a bit. Purchasing stolen property is a crime even if you didn't know it was stolen.

[@Mlopez_602]

I am not a pilot so I didn't catch all the red flags you pointed out, but as soon as I saw him pull out the selfie stick, I knew it was fake. Pretty sure if that were me and I needed to ditch the aircraft, filming myself on the way down would be the last thing on my mind.

[@davidturner4987]

That's what's been bothering me, it appears the plane has been stripped down to bare bones in preparation for something like this. he had nothing in that plane, no gear in the back, nothing but cameras, it just looks stripped of everything except what would be needed to get it in the air.

[@GreatMichiganBushCo]

It does look to have everything required to be legal.. and not much else. I'm not sure if it has a log entry allowing the right fuel tank to be disconnected?

[@donmoore7785]

But supposedly he was going hang gliding... with an invisibly hang glider.

[@GreatMichiganBushCo]

That glider would have never fit in the plane. I've left equipment or had equipment shipped to were I was going to use it before. Maybe it was a friends rig he was going to use. I fly my plane to go fishing up north but never have a boat stashed in the back, most of the time I'm not even carrying fishing equipment. Though it is just another red flags... so many red flags.

[@TwistedKestrel]

He may never have had any of it to begin with. I saw someone assert that N29508 was being sold for parts last year, but I haven't seen anything to back that up yet

[@GreatMichiganBushCo]

@@TwistedKestrel ​ There was a blog post from the prior owner who stated it was in working order. It may have been in need of restoration, but a tube and frame aircraft is normally able to be restored quite easily.

[@techsolutions8237]

The Ridge claims to have not known about Trevor's stunt, and they told me they requested he remove it. 2 days later he is still there, and they have not responded back.. I will be glad to publish my correspondence with them....

[@GreatMichiganBushCo]

It's great to hear that there was a request that the video be removed by them. That correspondence would be interesting to see. That the video wasn't removed that the sponsors request is interesting. I would think the video would be de-monetized do to content. Not sure why he would keep it up.

[@GreatMichiganBushCo]

@@techsolutions8237 I bet he doesn't want to pull the video down because of how many views it's getting.. The guys getting exactly what he wants. Even if he's giving his sponsor a bad name. I wonder if ridge will refuse to pay for that video.

[@techsolutions8237]

@@GreatMichiganBushCo Well... I waited a few days and wrote back to Ridge telling them "no change" as I expected. I then questioned their sincerity, and told them "I don't think you have even been able to reach him regarding this... I have received no reply this time... (I can feel smoke up my ass, even virtually). The comments on the Ridge Instagram account is getting heated up now... Nice 108 Stinson. We used to have a gullwing Reliant many years ago...yeah...I'm a geezer.

[@GreatMichiganBushCo]

I would sure love to fly a gullwing. Aircraft of the 30s and 40s are just beautiful works of art.

[@rars0n]

@@GreatMichiganBushCo I know some of the KZbinrs I watch have made offhanded comments in videos before about having to make a certain amount of videos for a sponsor. The sponsor pays them first and has them make, for example, 3 videos that feature the sponsorship and they have to follow certain rules, like mentioning specific things about the product or service in question. I think that's how it normally works (paid up front for X number of videos).

[@buckodonnghaile4309]

What I've learned from this comment section is that many pilots seem capable of engaging in civil debate. Refreshing.

[@GreatMichiganBushCo]

I'm amazed by how many people have jumped in and only one person has stoop ed to name calling.

[@benbananus]

So I have of course already watched this video, and I'm a glider pilot, so one of the first things i looked at were the possible landing spots. In several shots right before the engine failure you could see perfectly flat surfaces in front of the mountains. Now let's assume the riverbank wouldn't have been a perfect landing spot for a plane like this, which doesn't need a long runway. Even if the Taylorcraft may not have the best and most efficient wing design of all times, it can surely glide a couple of miles from that altitude, even more when flown at best glide speed. Again, Trevor never even tried to look for a solution, all he did was push the yoke in order to not stall and look down (directly down) instead of in the direction of travel where there were multiple landing options. I know there is a lot more wrong with it but I just wanted to point it out.

[@GreatMichiganBushCo]

That it is edited in a fashion that doesn't show anything besides "I'm going to jump" is odd.

[@pine6578]

He crashed a plane that many people would have cherished and looked after. He is a spoiled brad with a lot of money and no respect for it.

[@GreatMichiganBushCo]

If this Taylor craft is in the forest for no reason besides a publicity stunt that will be sad. Someone would have definitely liked that airplane.

[@arthurfoyt6727]

Think of all the Hollywood war movies in the 50's and 60's where B-17's and Mustangs and P-40's were smashed just for the camera. Losing a little Taylorcraft hardly is a tradgedy in comparison to all the great planes that were intentionally bought and smashed just to catch it on camera. He's a product and resident of California that has a long tradition of destroying stuff like that. ;-)

[@matthewhelton1725]

@@arthurfoyt6727 At one time, yes, Hollywood never blinked about destroying surplus equipment (and there was a LOT OF IT, back in the day). My granddad showed me ads for crated Allison Engines built for P38s for $12 per crate (minimum 5 crates). Today, those "disposable props" are now treasured artifacts. Our little brat Trevor crashes an irreplaceable Vintage Taylorcraft for the LOLs... no respect for the past or respect for the present. However, I am pretty sure he will have an "honorable" future: Saying such things as "Yes, your honor", or "No, your honor"...

[@arthurfoyt6727]

@@matthewhelton1725 It was his plane to keep or scrap. You have no say in it unless you want to buy vintage airplaned and maintain vintage airplanes. I own 2 planes and don't give a rats ass what you think sice you're probably not a pilot nor an owner (probably just a little whinning brat). Sorry dude, put up or shut up if you care about saving old planes. It's NOT easy!

[@matthewhelton1725]

@@arthurfoyt6727 Why the hate? Worked in the Industry for a very long time, and know and understand the struggle. Yes, aircraft maintenance is very tough (owners praying aloud during Annuals)... but come to think of it, maintaining *any* old equipment for which parts are scarce or no longer available is an often (painful) labor of love. But this kid shows no love; he just bought an airplane, cheap, to wreck; not caring that this was a classic aircraft and that people had labored to keep flying for over four generations. Trevor has given us every reason to think that he wrecked that plane intentionally and that he did it outside of FAA Rules and Guidelines. When this is over, there will be one less licensed pilot on the earth named Trevor, and it will be a better place.

[@MasterClassComments]

Dude I neveeerrrrr even thought about the commercial/ad aspect of this whole thing and ridge being at fault or whatever. Also, great job seeing and pointing out the fuel line disconnect. You're the first person I've seen bring that up!

[@GreatMichiganBushCo]

Thanks for watching.

[@jwboll]

Any time I shut off my engine in flight, I find I need to go painfully slow to stop the prop from windmilling. The pitching back upon "engine failure" in his video I believe is 100% intentional with the sole purpose to stop the prop from turning. Why would you worry about stopping the propellor before bailing out? It's hardly a sensational engine out video if the engine appears to be running. Some say restarting isn't possible because of the absence of electrical and starter. Restarting an engine without a starter in flight is 100% possible, all it takes is speed, and if you don't have speed, it just takes altitude to build some speed. I believe there was more than enough altitude to attempt a restart for a significant amount of time while performing and abundance of knob pulling, mixture mixing, valve turning, switch jiggling...

[@GreatMichiganBushCo]

To get the door open to bail out you'd have to get so slow the prop would stop. I don't think he was trying to stop the prop I think he was trying to get slow enough to open the door so he could jump. I believe you would have had plenty of time even in the small amount of video he showed try to restart in the engine. It's literally a 5-second process. I don't see a single smoking gun, I see some red flags at all can be accounted for, The number is what makes me wonder.

[@buckodonnghaile4309]

I'm not a pilot so forgive my ignorance with this question. Why and how often would you need to shut off your engine in flight? Seems counterintuitive.

[@jwboll]

@@buckodonnghaile4309 Good question. I often fly a self launching glider. It's a glider with a retractable engine behind the canopy that allows me to takeoff just like an average airplane. Every flight after takeoff, I climb at about 500 feet per minute at a speed of 50 knots, reaching between 1000-2000 feet above the surface I shut off the engine, pull back slightly on the stick and wait for the airspeed to slow down to between 35-40 knots, at that point it takes about 10-20 seconds in this extremely slow, awkward stage of the flight for the propellor to stop windmilling. Then I flip a switch and the engine retracts and a door closes completely hiding the engine. I can then push forward, nose down slightly and cruise up to 110 knots airspeed and continue on my merry way soaring across the countryside searching for thermals that can easily carry me up to class B airspace (up to 18,000 ft). I also fly a different airplane that I shut off the engine just for fun (within safe distance of a runway). I do engine off aerobatics and practice engine out landings. I'm thinking of incorporating these maneuvers into an airshow performance.

[@nicholasyouknowthat155]

What no one so far has brought up: Why did Trevor say at the end. "The plane came back and almost hit me" He made the claim the plane almost hit him while he was parachuting to the ground.

[@GreatMichiganBushCo]

I'm sure the aircraft started a steep spiral, once you open the chute It would be descending more quickly than him. I would be around the same area. It doesn't surprise me it almost came back and hit him. Though from everything else in the video it was probably a little bit of an exaggeration, It missed them by a mile. 🤣

[@tscottme]

@@GreatMichiganBushCo The criminal waited ages to open his parachute after exiting the aircraft. Was the professional skydiver so stunned by using his parachute the forgot to open his chute? He was orchestrating the "near miss" with the aircraft. The only 2 purposes of free-falling for an extended period after the exit is to stay close to the aircraft so he can go retrieve his cameras. Everything about this stunt is screaming "stunt". He's got a fire extinguisher strapped to his leg. He's got an altimeter strapped to his leg. He steers a sport parachute into scrub brush during the descent to get his cameras. Unfortunately he won't spend much time in jail, but he will spend some time in jail. And one day he will publicly admit it was a stunt/hoax and the people defending him will be known as clowns.

[@rinzler9775]

Yes, in his video, you see the aircraft falls into a typical "death spiral", getting tighter and tighter turns and faster and faster. He may have legitimately not factored this into his "prank", and it quite possibly was a very real threat.

[@345firee]

Great video. Awesome outside the box theory. 🤔 definitely the last two minutes of this video are on point for sure I think.

[@GreatMichiganBushCo]

Thank you, and thanks for watching.

[@KlingonCaptain]

Trent Palmer noticed that valve hanging loose right off the bat just like you did. He also noticed that the door was already opened when the engine supposedly quit. Also that he seemed to be trying to stall the plane to make the prop stop on camera.

[@GreatMichiganBushCo]

I found it quite I obvious and wondered why others had t noticed. I'll have to look at his video.

[@AZEljefe]

I noticed that as well.

[@mordfustang1933]

This Trevor Jacob guy isn’t the sharpest tool in the shed

[@GreatMichiganBushCo]

Ha! That or he is sly as a fox, I'm guessing it's not the first time he has been on the carpet. It sounds like he might have had the mess cleaned up and had it helicopter lifted out before the FAA could see it.

[@KlingonCaptain]

@@GreatMichiganBushCo This is going to cause the FAA to draft some new regulations for sure.

[@johnwaltrowski8855]

Just an fyi...the amount of ash left after a creamation is about 3 liters. Doesnt look like that baggy had that much. Was it really ashes?

[@GreatMichiganBushCo]

I have received partial ashes of loved ones before. So that he had a small amount to spread in the mountains doesn't seem suspicious to me.

[@tomrob3654]

Interesting points. Has anyone contacted the sponsor for their comments on the stunt?

[@ratman5727]

I have to say that this is one of the few videos on this incident that has pointed out nothing but facts. As a fellow pilot, I was fully aware that this plane had no battery or charging system, so an inflight re-start isn't even possible, unless (as you mentioned) using the windmilling prop to go full rich, check mags, etc. With that said, this clearly appears to be a publicity stunt, I guess if there is any saving grace, he didn't do it over a populated area. As Trent Palmer said, -this kind of irresponsibility just puts all us pilots under more scrutiny and further potential regulations. As a pilot, this kind of activity to me just seems absurd. I have always known the flying community to be a brotherhood, where we all have a common love for flying. I know of nobody that would ever pull something like this just to get video views. Irresponsible and flying should never be in the same sentence.. Even if this is truly an accident (which I don't think it is), it was handled very poorly. There is no reason that plane couldn't have been landed dead stick, there were plenty of places to land, -and he had plenty of altitude and time to figure it out and pull it off.

[@GreatMichiganBushCo]

Thank you. I agree. If this was a legitimate reaction to an engine out there is probably some pilot retaining in order. The thought process behind "jump" shows impulsivity. There is also some questionable situational awareness not thinking about the aircraft and what type of hazard it becomes after you jump. If it's just a stunt than I really hope the legislators understand that this is a car of someone who shouldn't be a pilot having a pilot certificates and something more legislation can't "solve."

[@kidigus]

FYI, the top of that ridge just yards from where the plane impacted is a hiking trail.

[@GreatMichiganBushCo]

@@kidigus I'm sure there were a lot of trails down there, the idea that pilotless planes are flying around scares me.

[@rickybecklund2488]

Agreed ..he was up their to jump..I counter 2 or 3 legit landing zones as he filmed .his parachute his camera work angles he leaves out snd randomly somehow adds is bs ..he's a scam......video makes more then insurance claim..will take year but he will get suspension of some sort hopefully. Ridge wallet on you tube love the videos with risky and viral content possibly

[@GreatMichiganBushCo]

@@rickybecklund2488 if a sponsor knows to are going doing something illegal and sponsors the video. Essentially they are paying you to commit the act. There must be some culpability, it's similar to hiring a hitman and then claiming "I didn't do it.'

[@davidzachmeyer1957]

The previous owners of the aircraft on aircraft data dott comm are listed as Laura L. Smith and Eugene A. Bibber. Eugene Andrew Bibber goes by "Andy Bibber" and runs Adventure Flight in Lincoln, CA. Is there any connection between Jacob and Bibber other than the sale of the aircraft? Not an accusation, just curious.

[@GreatMichiganBushCo]

From what I understand they had no idea what was going to happen.

[@IdeologieUK]

Was that an unmanned field he took off from? In my world even flying out of an unmanned field you are required to fly with at least a handheld and radio taxi, line up, take off and departure on local airfield frequency then join the GA / bush frequency for periodic course, position and altitude updates etc. So wasn’t that headset connected to a handheld? If you listen to his audio he does not have a line in splitter - he was shouting above engine noise into the GoPro mic. You know it’s BS when everyone’s analysis flags up more questions than answers… 😄 Great video on this!

[@GreatMichiganBushCo]

No. Radio or radio use is not required at uncontrolled airports.

[@johnwaltrowski8855]

Flying out of an uncontrolled airport, you are not required to notify anybody.

[@darrellhay]

No radio required at the airport, or enroute, and the headset can be used to record audio for your BS video, or listen to music, or simply to reduce ambient noise in the aircraft stripped of its interior for your BS video.

[@IdeologieUK]

@@darrellhay 100%

[@bbtman1]

I'm happy that someone is finally calling out ridge here, as far as I know is that KZbinrs have to have their sponsored videos approved so they probably saw this video before anyone else and approved it.

[@GreatMichiganBushCo]

If they approved it, and helped fund it, I think they would be culpable If only an off the cuff publicity stunt.

[@bbtman1]

@@GreatMichiganBushCo Oh absolutely, I think the FAA would go after both of them tbh

[@GreatMichiganBushCo]

@@bbtman1 there is not much the FAA could do to the Ridge if they were involved. One contentious had brought up the DOJ may have some oversight... That wouldn't turn out very well for anyone involved. How this plays out will be interesting.

[@ronin_user]

A person who flew the plane he crashed for his certification said the front tank was full. He had fire extinguishers strapped to his calves.

[@GreatMichiganBushCo]

There's fuel in the front. You can see the fuel gauge on the profile video. There's no point in ignition without an electrical system.

[@samsharp9377]

The only way this stunt would have been getting his foot caught on the door frame for a while. Now THAT would have been funny shit, right there. 55 years ago I would have loved to have had a T-Cart like this to build flying time in. There are a lot of kids today that would have loved the chance to fly an inexpensive aircraft to build time.. Now there's one less.

[@GreatMichiganBushCo]

I know a few people who bought a Taylorcraft to build time and fell in live with the plane. This aircraft possible could have been restored and lived it's glory days again... If just a publicity stunt it's a shame to loose this hull.

[@samsharp9377]

@@GreatMichiganBushCo The Great Cole Brothers were incredible. Duane's T-Cart aerobatics with the engine shut down was proof enough.

[@GreatMichiganBushCo]

@@samsharp9377 ​ @Sam Sharp I saw that in Houghton Michigan just before he quit. One of those moments I'm glad I experienced. I think that routine was the inspiration for a an engine out Shrike Commander routine .

[@samsharp9377]

Thousands of us saw him perform at OSH in a Citabria with a 'safety pilot' on board. We didn't think he'd ever come down after he shut the engine down.

[@GreatMichiganBushCo]

It was a great routine that inspired me as a pilot. That Duane Cole got brought up in this thread warms my heart. That's what pilots need to see more of, his type of flying... not haphazard publicity stunts.

[@Quixote1818]

Looking at Google maps, he was only about 8 miles by the crow from Los Olivos. Could he have glided 8 miles depending upon the wind? He looks to be around 10,000 feet in altitude.

[@GreatMichiganBushCo]

Even if he couldn't make Los Olivos there were a lot of spots. I'd probably not have tried to glide 8 miles if I had that river bed just below.

[@dalh598.1]

While Los Olivos was fairly distant, he was flying an aircraft made for short landings in nonpaved areas. The aircraft could, quite easily, have landed in multiple unmaintained places. A few of them shown in his video

[@davidzachmeyer1957]

He claimed to be 10,000 AGL. A 172 could glide roughly 13-15nm from that altitude, and the Taylorcraft could probably go a bit farther.

[@GreatMichiganBushCo]

@@davidzachmeyer1957 maybe. I know my Stinson doesn't glide as well as the 172, when I had the engine out in the Stinson. It shocked me how quick that airplane fell out of the sky, I had only owned it for a few weeks. The Taylor craft probably glides better than the stencil though. 8 to 10 mi sounds fair from 10,000 ft..

[@grantm6514]

His video is edited to *not* show all the farmland that he had just flown over to get into those mountains. It that height he could simply have reversed course, trimmed for best glide and picked one of the fields he had been over.

[@zackriden79]

make sure you note that you can see the fuel fload stick showing he had fuel when it stopped ,. you can see it just front of the shield

[@GreatMichiganBushCo]

I didn't notice that the first time through. Someone pointed it out and there looks to be plenty of gas.

[@PhilBender612]

Yes, there was no fire ,but if there was Trevor was prepared to rescue the Gopros. If you zoom in on his pants leg after the jump, you can clearly see the distinct outline of an Fire extinguisher strapped to his leg under his pants. I believe he jumped with this just in case the plane went up in flames.

[@GreatMichiganBushCo]

It would Make more sense of what he had on his leg was a water bottle.

[@JohnVK5JAK]

I’ve seen a couple of videos on this now. None have mentioned the footage of the aircraft BELOW the camera. If he jumped out and did several seconds of free fall, how is the aircraft some distance below him in a couple of shots?

[@GreatMichiganBushCo]

That would have been after he was under canopy. The plane would decend below him before he landed.

[@JohnVK5JAK]

@@GreatMichiganBushCo nope.

[@svyt]

@@JohnVK5JAK Can you give more detail of your thoughts, other than just "no"? I'm inclined to agree with you, but I'm interested in your take. Clearly the aircraft is well above him in freefall. Are you saying that his descent rate under canopy is not going to be slow enough (relative to the aircraft) to allow the aircraft to descend so much below him? That's a compelling argument. Do you have a sense of those relative descent rates (canopy, vs aircraft with windmilling prop)? I will suggest that the aircraft does noticeably pitch down after he exits, almost as if he was holding it nose-high, but maybe had it trimmed pitch down. Could that have been enough to give the aircraft a faster descent rate to get below him?

[@vlnow]

@@svyt Trevor waited AT LEAST 20 seconds (from the available footage, but footage is missing) in freefall. That is at least 3000ft of freefall, not counting the parachute opening time. Easily putting him 3500 or 4000 feet below the plane. Then his parachute is also descending. For the plane to catch up as seen in the video is not impossible, but IMO very unlikely.

[@GreatMichiganBushCo]

@John VK5JAK The sport canopies descend slowly if you fly them to do so. As a skydive pilot and someone with a few jumps under my belt I know once a jumper pulls canopy it's easy for the plane to descended below them. I would normally beat jumpers to the ground in the plane. This plane is in a steep bank and descending quickly. He only did 3,000 feet or so a free fall, so he pulled at maybe 7000' that give minuets of flight time under canopy while a pilotless plane is going to start to spiral down quite quickly as this one did. With over 5,000 jump runs I find nothing suspicious about the plane being below him and I'm fairly sure that it was planned that way so we could chase the airplane to retrieve the cameras.

[@samsung-ok4ki]

He never wears a parachute on any other videos, his other videos have comms, he is never hollaring into Gopro, he is a skydiving fool, he opened the door early , the actual owner was contacted 2 hours after crash, he claimed he crashed his plane, it was not his........,at least 4 landing options available from that elevation, verdict ? he did it with malice and forethought.

[@GreatMichiganBushCo]

I just read a blog post from the prior owner and he say he sold it to Trevor, maybe I misread this but he claimed he was sad to hear the plane was down. As another commenter pointed out if he did it with malice there is a federal crime. A civil aircraft "in flight" is under special jurisdiction and 1423. DESTRUCTION OF AIRCRAFT -- 18 U.S.C. 32(A) - (a)Whoever willfully- (1)sets fire to, damages, destroys, disables, or wrecks any aircraft in the special aircraft jurisdiction of the United States or any civil aircraft used, operated, or employed in interstate, overseas, or foreign air commerce... shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than twenty years or both. If this was intentional it could be bad for Trevor.

[@RaysDad]

No fire on impact, right? How often do you see that? The plane must have been dry.

[@GreatMichiganBushCo]

All the time. Planes that go down rarely catch fire, it's a movie thing kanda like car accidents and fire. It does happen sometimes but with these smaller planes it's rare. If you think about it without an electrical system there are not many ways for the fire to ignite.

[@kevintaylor791]

If his wing tank was disconnected, would he have had enough fuel in the header tank to make the flight from Lompoc to Mammoth?

[@GreatMichiganBushCo]

The header holds 12 gallons. 4.5gal/hr. 95mph. Yeah right in the edge with reserve, plus a lot of spots to refuel if needed along the way. Stop at VIS to top off and stretch your legs...

[@daveroche6522]

My understand is that ADSB is mandatory in ALL GA aircraft wef Jan 01 2021. Yes/no?

[@GreatMichiganBushCo]

No. ADSB is required only in certain airspace. (B and the area within 30nm of a B airport, C and above C airspace, above 10,000'msl if above 2500'agl) If your aircraft was built without an electrical system as this one, it's not required anywhere. Per 91.225(e) The requirements of paragraph (b) of this section do not apply to any aircraft that was not originally certificated with an electrical system, or that has not subsequently been certified with such a system installed, including balloons and gliders. These aircraft may conduct operations without ADS-B Out in the airspace specified in paragraphs (d)(2) and (d)(4) of this section. Operations authorized by this section must be conducted -

[@daveroche6522]

@@GreatMichiganBushCo Whew! I sit corrected - "Learn something new every day", eh? Many thanks.

[@dfast8712]

Guy needs jail The state of California with wildfires would never allow you to crash a plane into dry brush

[@GreatMichiganBushCo]

Any criminal charges that would result in jail time would need to be with the state or local municipalities. I think county state and federal authorities would be looking into this. I wonder how it will resolve.

[@dfast8712]

The federal government has all jurisdiction over aircraft and air space local municipalities have zero to do with it

[@dfast8712]

When you drive a car that license is issued by the state they have jurisdiction aircraft is federal and yes they will put him in a federal prison for that if he is found guilty

[@GreatMichiganBushCo]

@@dfast8712 The FAA does not have many violation who's penalties included prison, most are all just civil penalties. In most cases you need to violate a DOJ regulation to get prison with an airplane. There could be something that big here.

[@dfast8712]

@@GreatMichiganBushCo yes you are correct the FAA is not law-enforcement however what the FAA does in the NTSB they turn their findings over to a grand jury and that grand jury has the choice to indict them and the FAA has suggested criminal charges in the past for certain situation

[@KIKI55cro]

Good video man! Hope that Trevor likes the jail view behind bars!

[@GreatMichiganBushCo]

Thanks

[@vlnow]

I give a 70% chance that this is a fully legal fully staged production, no laws broken. 20% chance that it was a yolo intentional bail 10% that it was a genuine 'emergency'.

[@GreatMichiganBushCo]

I like it. Will be interesting to see how this plays out.

[@577buttfan]

70% fully legal man your optimistic..FAA allowing a plane too just plummet out of control from that alt...no way dude.Unless maybe there was some sort of remote control which I doubt.

[@arthurfoyt6727]

@@577buttfan The FAA only cares if rules were broken. I've been flying 50 years and I can't think of any FAR that was broken. Heck, it's legal to have a beer and taxi around the airport and NO authority can arrest you for that, FAA or DOT.

[@577buttfan]

@@arthurfoyt6727 So the FAA is screwed up just like the rest of our government that makes perfect sense.

[@arthurfoyt6727]

@@577buttfan No, it means they have have limits and can't just start arresting people "just because". No harm, no foul.

[@novavroomvroom6809]

I am a certified, licensed paper airplane pilot and Trevor's flight pattern mimics on of my paper airplane flights..!!!!

[@GreatMichiganBushCo]

Once he jumps the plane is aerodynamicly not much different than a paper airplane.

[@brucebaxter6923]

Whistling diesel did a plane crash video with one of these planes. Notice he hiked back to reset the ignition switches to on in the crashed plane.

[@GreatMichiganBushCo]

That diesel guy didn't really crash, I don't think he had any intent for flight. Though it look like he ruined a nice Taylorcraft also. What's up with people coming and destroying these beautiful Taylorcrafts

[@brucebaxter6923]

@@GreatMichiganBushCo Correct, he made very sure he was legal and safe. He just wanted the wings for another project so he made a click bait video that this latest idiot copied

[@OhNoNotAgain42]

This is a perfect reenactment of the “Trevor” missions from GTA 5.

[@GreatMichiganBushCo]

Where can I find these reenactments? I want to see them.

[@stefanmargraf7878]

Not only a case for FAA and NTSB but also for the court. He already got some jail experience.

[@GreatMichiganBushCo]

Someone pointed out there is probably grounds for the DOJ to step in if this was an I'll planned stunt.

[@scottscornerrd]

Strange how the comments oh his video are turned off 🤔

[@GreatMichiganBushCo]

So strange. 🤣

[@RobinMarks1313]

This is weird. I've been watching the 1970s detective show, Columbo. Great show. The funny thing is, there's an episode called, "Swan Song" where's there's some eerie coincidences. The episode's guest star is Johnny Cash and he plays a singer who murders his wife in a plane crash. Here's the weird part, in the episode, Johnny gives his wife and another passenger, coffee which was drugged. After the passengers are unconscious, Johnny puts on a parachute and jumps out of the plane, and let's the plane crash. He then parachutes down to the wreckage and pretends he was thrown clear and survived. I'm really wondering if Trevor Jacob's grandmother was a fan of Columbo or he saw the episode somehow. Because there's some weird parallels.

[@GreatMichiganBushCo]

OMG I'm hitting up done streaming TV. I need to see this.

[@OshowAfrica]

U made some very good points about the plane & procedures. Great job

[@GreatMichiganBushCo]

Thank you.

[@223Carbine]

Trevor Jacob: Aviation’s Jussie Smollett

[@GreatMichiganBushCo]

He might get a trial for poor acting.

[@AlexAquarius963]

I don't understand why the airplane didn't go into the ground and disappear like Flight 93 in PA?

[@GreatMichiganBushCo]

The plane in PA hit at about 600kts and was full of jet fuel. This hit at maybe 85kts and not straight in. With a little bit of gas and no ignition source. What you see in this video is typical for GA crashes.

[@AEFarnam]

He just did that things when your flying a plane in PUBG or COD and you exit, he did the real life equivalent

[@GreatMichiganBushCo]

For some reason it doesn't seem as fun looking in real life.

[@AEFarnam]

@@GreatMichiganBushCo he's an idiot. I applaud your candor and everyone else's saying ALLEGEDLY, but I think it's fairly obvious to even laymen, that this was staged. Especially now that I find out that the next day each other a flight to go and remove his plane from the area before the NTSB or the FAA could expect it. You couple that with the fact that he didn't deploy his parachute immediately, the fact that he brought a parachute, the fact that we don't get to see what he does to try to recover the plane, the fact that the cameras are set up on the left side of the plane to catch him perfectly exiting, the fact that he brought a selfie stick, the fact that he didn't hike out but hike to the crash first to get his cameras, and then we realized through his shadow he's carrying his parachute the whole time. I mean come on, it does not pass the smell test. Am I right?

[@DARisse-ji1yw]

How many cameras running do YOU fly with ?

[@GreatMichiganBushCo]

I normally have between four and six on the airplane. Being a content creator I run that many cameras. When I had my engine out I had three running, and then my passenger pulled out a cell phone so we had four cameras when I had that engine out.

[@GreatMichiganBushCo]

Check out my channel you'll see some videos, at least you realize I'm not an armchair pilot commenting on someone else.

[@Mr.Ramirez95]

Give a skydiver a parachute and he will jump, give a pilot a plane and he will land it.

[@GreatMichiganBushCo]

That an interesting take. I don't know of many skydivers who want to land in a plane. Yet in training there is no consideration given to jumping out of the plane. I only know of one guy who had jumped and that plane was missing a wing.

[@rdizzy1]

@@GreatMichiganBushCo To be fair, most pilots don't even have the option to jump, as they aren't wearing chutes, and if they are, they aren't really trained on parachuting or jumping from planes. This dude had been skydiving/base jumping for over a decade.

[@AlanBell]

I am not a pilot, but if I was flying over terrain that was a bit intimidating I would have *plenty* of fuel, not a removed reserve tank. I would also descend to see if the engine starts with a bit more oxygen rather than leaping out when still cruising at the service ceiling. I would also circle looking for a landing zone back the way I came from. Going over terrain without taking a portable radio is weird - he was apparently wearing a fancy parachute out of caution, but didn't take a radio or reserve tank?

[@GreatMichiganBushCo]

There are definitely red flags. If the fuel tank was removed legally would be a good question to ask. There is no reason a C65 would not operate at 10k and would at a lower altitude, while not. A power house at 10k it's still going to turn. Every pilot I know would be looking for that place to land. Much of this video is weird. That for watching and commenting.

[@tscottme]

No pilot of single engine piston aircraft would descend to get more oxygen to improve engine starting. That's only something for turbine engine aircraft that operate 20-40 thousand feet higher than this aircraft.

[@willswalkingwest7267]

And if you follow the footage of him leaving the aircraft you will see he has a small fire extinguisher strapped to his leg under his pant leg.

[@GreatMichiganBushCo]

I saw someone is claiming that. The might be something in his pant leg, but how do they know it's a fire extinguisher? I haven't looked at that footage closely yet. Maybe I'll check it out tomorrow.

[@rondlh20]

You really think that he got permission to not only endanger people, but crash his plane in a condor Sanctuary!? You got to be kidding me!

[@GreatMichiganBushCo]

I didn't say I thought he did.

[@avflyguy]

The one thing I see is, during the freefall for many seconds, his selfie stick/camera show him plummeting away with the aircraft well above him. A minute or two later, the camera shows the airplane *well below* him. How can that be?

[@GreatMichiganBushCo]

Once you're under canopy (the parachute opens) You will be descending slower than the aircraft is descending. The period between the airplane being above him and the aircraft being below him is longer than the video shows. From that altitude he might be under canopy 5 minutes or more. I'm sure he wanted to see where the airplane crashed so he could then "fly" the parachute near it to retrieve the cameras.

[@llibressal]

That's kind of the point of parachutes. (They allow you to descend slower than a crashing plane.)

[@donmoore7785]

Basic aerodynamics.

[@GreatMichiganBushCo]

You have a way with words... thanks for the comment. :-)

[@angelaracino6236]

Great analysis well done sir.

[@GreatMichiganBushCo]

Thank you, and thank you for watching.

[@mpschaefer1]

Was it public land? Or perhaps a private remote cattle ranch? Someone can look that up.

[@GreatMichiganBushCo]

There are a lot of people who think they know the exact location. Of you found that Google Earth and one of those land ownership layovers would tell you.

[@adamkurtz7374]

I saw a video that said it was actually a park. Not sure if national or state

[@rowenhusky]

How about why is his door already opened when the engine dies? Why are there no shots published from inside the cockpit after / during engine failure? I really hope the interior cockpit video becomes public at some point and he didn't delete it. But if he did delete it that's gonna look super shady to the NTSB (not that it matters because everything else is already so suspect.).

[@GreatMichiganBushCo]

I don't know that you can count on the door being open before the engine stops, It could have been edited that way. I really don't see that as a smoking gun. If you look late in the video the cameras not on the interior GoPro. I think that's the selfie stick he grabs on the way out. I'm sure anything horribly incriminating has been deleted.

[@johndreyer9730]

His door was open before the engine even stalled

[@GreatMichiganBushCo]

Yes, someone's in my Stinson I bump the door open when flying. Is but not unheard of in a 1940'd design. That's the thing, most every one of these oddities can be accounts for. Yet all together they sure look incredibly suspicious.

[@jsandra860]

There are so many regulations by the FAA that has literally grounded my little Rc airplanes but this guy can do this………………

[@tedralston4956]

There is a fatal discrepancy in Trevor's story. 6 seconds after jumping out we see the GoPro looking up at free-falling Trevor, close up, and his pilotless Tcraft flying 500 ft above, in-trim, stable and balanced, normal speed and attitude.. It is descending at perhaps 600-800 FPM... at which rate it will use up its 7000 AGL after 8-10 minutes of glide. His own descent rate is maybe 3500 FPM (averged for the freefall and chute-borne)... moving towards the surface about 5 times faster than the airplane. Yet in the next clip the airplane is seen from a position ABOVE from maybe 5000'... WAY ABOVE the airplane. It is still flying in trim, didn't spin down or anything like that. How did the airplane manage to start out above free-falling Trevor, and then suddenly get several thousand feet below him? That clip does not show any of Trevor's body or parachute rig in foreground... yet every other video angle he does features himself prominently in frame. Gliding off the 5000' or so it took for the airplane to get down to that altitude would have put it 4-5 miles away from the 'power failure' point... so how did the vertically-descending parachute manage travel 4-5 miles laterally to keep up with the airplane, and get this view? Here's the reason: that clip was taken by someone in his chase helicopter, which followed the aircraft down to make sure of its crash site - so it could later pick Trevor up and take him close to the site for that faux dramatic walk-in. Someone mathematician out there in video land can take this clip and run it thru a Kalman filter and likely find the main rotor frequency of the heli. His theme of pilots wearing parachutes... how about passengers? Little chutes for kids, XXL for the heavweights? This guy is ridiculous. And dangerous. And harmful. Tio us all.

[@darrellhay]

Ted I had the exact same thought, how did he go from freefall way below the aircraft, to under canopy with aircraft well below, still in trim, not in a death spiral? This does not pass the sniff test at all. You are the first person I have seen mention this. This entire video is a sham.

[@GreatMichiganBushCo]

This is all video editing. It's almost impossible to tell how long he free fell. That clip could have been time altered. When he first leaves the aircraft you can see it pitch down severely. From a camera below it's going to look stable, I've seen this in hundreds of clips as I've dropped the last skydiver out and then dive for the ground. The airplane looks fairly level in the jumpers video, but I know I'm just descending quickly. In most of these jump runs the Jumpers free fall 5 to 7,000 ft and I still beat them to the ground. It doesn't surprise me There's video both above and below. Remember that the time here is skewed, he could have been under canopy for as long as 5 or 6 minuets.

[@GoofballFlyer]

Where's that minuet in your video?

[@jaredjaguar]

marvelous observation my dude 👍🏽👍🏽

[@GreatMichiganBushCo]

Thanks for watching!

[@drumsandstix128]

There was no need for him to bail, there are plenty of landing spots that I can see during his free-fall. Its a deliberate bail out which is only going to increase insurance premiums for aircraft owners!

[@GreatMichiganBushCo]

It would only increase insurance premiums if he makes a claim. I really doubt he had insurance, or if intentionally bailed out wouldn't make an insurance claim.

[@drumsandstix128]

@@GreatMichiganBushCo Possibly, but the plane crash is a statistical addition to the number of accidents that have occurred, that in itself alters the actuarial equation of premiums.

[@GreatMichiganBushCo]

@@drumsandstix128 the sum but the actual cost of the pool drive it up more. I was over report the number of hours you fly to your insurance company. It gives us more safe flight hours 🤣 (All statements in this post were made ingest. Great Michigan Bush company is not promoting insurance fraud, we are not insurance professionals for providing insurance advice, dang we're barely pilots)

[@paulpietschinski3282]

This is totally fishy he had more than enuff altitude to being the aircraft down. I'm not a pilot, but I do play one in the youtube comments section.

[@GreatMichiganBushCo]

He had altitude to bring the aircraft down. To jump you need that kind of attitude. I've had two engine outs below 1000' AGL and in those cases if would be tough to bail out with anything beside a BASE rig. I really hope I don't end up in that situation again.

[@BattleshipOrion]

My thoughts are very one sided. His flight plan called for a flight from A to B (not a pilot, and don't know the airports, just remember that it has been said that it could make the flight), gasoline is also harder to ignite unless there was a spark With the wrecks condition, even if there was a leak, the plane would not have burned up. Also, I don't know if you noticed, but the FAA contacted the previous owner...does "something special" sound edgy? Also, the lack of an interior could be because of how the plane was bought. Also, he was in a glider once the engine stopped. It's simple physics. He did not need to jump, he only needed to keep the rubber side down & controlled, if he was smart, and actually a pilot. I hope his wings get clipped, permanently. It was a stunt that could have killed people. Even if the sponsor was not involved, they should be held at least 25% liable, and I *EXPECT* a press release on the issue. As for Mr. Olympics, he's facing attempted vehicular manslaughter, and numerous FAA violations, I doubt he's see daylight again after the FAA make a final report & issue the warrant.

[@GreatMichiganBushCo]

The sponsor has been quite and enjoying the publicity to the best of my knowledge. As far as what the FAA can do it's really only certification, suspension/revocation, the DOJ, state, and local authorities might find some charges for him.

[@joeshmoe7967]

I have never flown a plane( I have flown hang gliders) or jumped with a parachute. Given his exact scenario, and assuming the pilot stroked out, I would have opted to try to land the plane. Unless on fire or catastrophic structural, I would likely risk my own life so as to not send the already dead pilot to a messy end. I would bet my life this was 100% a stunt. Look up other stunts he has been part of.

[@GreatMichiganBushCo]

I sure hope it wasn't a stunt because if what something like this could do to my right to fly

[@spacemedic545]

Do pilots "ALWAYS" wear a parachute every time they get in a plane. Just seams a little pre-planned.

[@GreatMichiganBushCo]

I fly 200+ hours a year generally aviation. I haven't put a parachute on while flying an aircraft in 8 years. The last time was when I was flying skydivers. I've also worn a parachute for aerobatic training. An engine out it's not a reason to bail out of an aircraft.

[@TheBenghaziRabbit]

very well thought out but no way in hell is the FAA going to allow that shit.

[@GreatMichiganBushCo]

The FAA does not have much authority besides certificate action. I wonder if another agency will step in with c charges that could lead to civil penalties or jail time. I sure hope as pilots we do not find more regulations because of this. Even if this was a legitimate engine out it was poorly handled at best.

[@MarcosElMalo2]

@@GreatMichiganBushCo You’re looking at County and State law enforcement to investigate criminality. It’s possible the Federal government could get involved because Los Padres National Forest is operated by the U.S. Department of the Interior (I think).

[@GreatMichiganBushCo]

@@MarcosElMalo2 The department of Justice has special jurisdiction over aircraft that are flying. So there's even DOJ regulations That would be federal criminal charges.

[@ktmadison588]

What about the fire extinguishers strapped to his legs?

[@GreatMichiganBushCo]

There is something strapped to his leg, butt had anyone really seen this for extinguisher, or just a shape under his pant leg that could be a fire extinguisher?

[@ktmadison588]

You can see the red at 00:15 and check out Triton TV for zoomed in pictures and slow motion analysis. Here you can clearly see the pressure gauge through his pants.

[@PaulAnthonyDuttonUk]

Ultimately only one person pulls the trigger. Even if he was encouraged he could have declined because he would know it was wrong. Book him Dano!

[@GreatMichiganBushCo]

Okay. I agree, but is the person who hired the Hitman then not liable because he only paid to have it done and didn't pull the trigger himself?

[@PaulAnthonyDuttonUk]

@@GreatMichiganBushCo Probably but am inclined to think his prime mission was views for himself. Sad case of me me itus.

[@GreatMichiganBushCo]

@@PaulAnthonyDuttonUk that could be the case. I hope that's not the reason. Seems to be there general consensus though.

[@gregoryschmidt1233]

Is it actually legal to fly a plane with no radio and no transponder?

[@GreatMichiganBushCo]

In nearly all airspace you can fly without a radio or transponder. A B,C,and D airspace require radio communication. 30 miles from a B airport, C airspace and above along with above 10,000ft MSL if not under 2500 AGL require a transponder.

[@gregoryschmidt1233]

@@GreatMichiganBushCo thanks

[@alistairclark6814]

There is no luggage at all when he stated he had packed snowboarding and paragliding equipment..... where are all his things for this trip?

[@GreatMichiganBushCo]

So that's a question. This is an empty airplane. Not even overnight bag.

[@alistairclark6814]

Someone with good eye recently pointed out that if you go frame by frame as he jumps out, you can see a small fire extinguisher strapped to him under his pant leg in preparation for a potential fire, that's why he landed as close to the plane as possible. He planned for and took steps to prevent fire.

[@kristofkopecky5723]

Possible that the engine just ran out of fuel so when the plane crashed it wouldn’t start a fire

[@GreatMichiganBushCo]

It looks like there is a lot of fuel in the plane when he jumps. The first few times he looks outside, and when he is slowing the plane to jump you can see the fuel gauge on the boot cowl.and there is fuel onboard. Without a source of ignition there wouldn't be much chance of a fire.

[@donmoore7785]

He had three cameras in the plane. Why did he not include the dramatic moment when the engine "suddenly" stopped? That is what you refer to as a "big question". In none of the other videos he has done is he wearing a chute - but he claims that he always wears one. Who wears the largest chute possible in small cockpits? That is a big question. The door was open before the engine failed - why was that? That is a "big question". Why would you suggest that YT is responsible in some way, if HE planned it. YT certainly did not. You can't argue that because of "pressure" to publish, people resort to foolish and reckless stunts like this, and therefore YT is to blame. That makes no sense.

[@GreatMichiganBushCo]

The engine suddenly stopping is shown from the tail and the side view. The propeller will not stop as it will continue to windmill. The prop will only stop when he slows to jump from the plane. I pointed out no one wears a skydiving rig for a bail out shoot, I'm not sure how hit fit in the Taylorcraft with that rig on. As far as the door, it's suspect but I've had many doors pop open while flying and found out it was cracked after landing, it's not uncommon in these 70+ year old airplanes. No one of these "issues" can't be explained away, but all of them together sure make this look suspect. Not to mention this plane can land in 200' (watch the Great lakes STOL video I have and the Taylorcraft wins out under 100PH class) why not land on that dry river bed? If KZbin is selling video and making money off this after the fact, KZbin is making money off a crime someone committed it's similar to purchasing stolen property.

[@skuula]

He had enough altitude to spare for a free fall with a selfie stick, but not for a restart attempt?

[@GreatMichiganBushCo]

I think I covered that in the video. The restart attempt would take 5 seconds literally and would be a reflexive type reaction. It's just pushing two knobs forward and pulling one out. The procedure is real simple. If this wasn't a stunt he had plenty of opportunity to do that in the time available. The hanging fuel valve, the empty airplane and well placed camera... along with a self stick jump all look a little suspicious.

[@lessharratt8719]

It looks like the crash site was actually a viable emergency landing site. Why bail??? Something stinks here.

[@GreatMichiganBushCo]

I would never consider bailing for any engine out. There were definitely spots to land that he could have an glided to, but over the mountains can be uncomfortable.

[@HoltAircraft]

I'm not even sure that it was a sponsored video, anyone can buy a product and pretend that they are sponsored.

[@GreatMichiganBushCo]

That's true. I wonder if the company would have a copyright claim at that point.

[@MadDragon75]

I live in the area. I don't recall anything being said about this beforehand. My money is on your suspicions being correct.

[@MadDragon75]

You can get a bird's-eye view with my a few of my recent videos.

[@GreatMichiganBushCo]

Well, people in the area may well have had some notice of paperwork had been filed.

[@GreatMichiganBushCo]

Thanks.. I'll take a look. Thank you for watching.

[@sonoftherepublic9792]

Plane Silly nailed it. He was sucked out of the airplane by Ground Suction…

[@GreatMichiganBushCo]

That guy always has an interesting take. I really wish that pilots showing fun, safe flying, would get as much attention as Trevor did. We need to grow aviation and Trevor's video is not going to do that.

[@MyNathanking]

1:33: I have a question right here as to why does this airplane look SO WEIRD? It looks like a long rectangular box with wings on it and with no typical airplane fuselage shape. It's even more obvious when you go back to 1:29 where you show a side view of a normal airplane in flight. 3:24: Once again, why does this airplane look nothing like a real airplane?

[@GreatMichiganBushCo]

There's some camera distortion, with the wide angle GoPro. But it's a 1940 steel frame aircraft, with a fabric coating. They were square boxes with fabric over them. It doesn't look like a modern airplane with a semi-monocock frame, where it's rounded. If you look at pictures of Piper cubs (PA18) Aeronca chiefs and champs, really any of these 30s and 40s steel frame aircraft designs, you'll see these box type frames. It was the technology of the time. I find a real charm to him and like them. Also the camera distortion from the wide-angle lens exaggerates how boxy the aircraft looks.

[@GreatMichiganBushCo]

Everyone seems very focused on this door being cracked open. Please let me know what I am missing with this piece of information? It doesn't stand out to me as a red flag at all. I look at it as something that could just be an editing issue where footage after the engine quit was put in place before the engine quit in his "story." I've also seen a lot of these older airplane doors pop open when people get excited at an cabin.

[@zackriden79]

-he opens the door before the engine stops and its a dragy dorr you wouldnt fly around with it open

[@danfurber2389]

I’m more focused on the nose pitch up movements he makes after the engine stops. Why do that? I don’t fly this airplane but can only imagine that no power and windmilling prop probably takes you to a nose down pitch. He pitch’s up several times until the prop stops and then kind of keeps it there till he bails but doesn’t seem to go through a check list, restart procedures, or turn towards a spot? Hmmm…

[@GreatMichiganBushCo]

@@zackriden79 I don't buy it I think it could be how the footage was edited together, or it could have been open. As a pilot who as looked over and found his Stinson, C150 door open a few times the drag is minimal, unnoticeable.

[@GreatMichiganBushCo]

@@danfurber2389 The pitch up would be to get to best glide speed, or maybe a speed slow enough to get the door opened to jump, the pitching up and down is odd. Was he doing that to "fake" being afraid? One thing we need to remember is this footage it all edited and the order of videos used and timeline are not going to true time or uncut. Again this pane has no checklists and the restart procedure is all of 5 seconds and reflexive. I do not see him attempt to find a spot to land had he looked a little closer he'd have found the one below him, the one the plane flies over on it's way down.

[@zackriden79]

@@GreatMichiganBushCo yep i've had a door open on a 172 and PA 28 but its normaly you take off it opens you close it or leave i'm saying he props it open before the engine quits in flight , i think that means you wanted to open the door ,. My old CFI use to acutly show me how you can use the doors to turn a 150 any way needless to say eveything thinks this is a stunt I think we agree its a bullshit stunt shouldnt of been done

[@Scott_Hauck]

dont forget the header tank of 6 gallon is all most full

[@GreatMichiganBushCo]

It is a 12 gallon header and it looks to have some fuel left in it. It's good that there was no fire. Those mountains are known to burn. As I say I hope this wasn't a needless act, but...

[@PietenpolNX899TD]

Needs to be done! Just sayin - "The FAA has the authority to suspend or revoke an airman’s certificates whenever the Administrator determines that the public interest and safety in air transportation or air commerce requires so. The unfortunate part is that an Emergency Order of Suspension or Revocation of an airman’s certificates has immediate effectiveness."

[@GreatMichiganBushCo]

The FAA does not very often work quickly in these cases. They take the time to investigate and figure out what happened.

[@godngunclinger]

Excellent video KZbin as a publication should be investigated as they claim more than just being a platform👍

[@GreatMichiganBushCo]

Thanks for watching !

[@daveroche6522]

That distance shot of the aircraft approaching & impacting terrain is far to focused and steady - obviously taken from a stable platform. Just surmisin'.

[@GreatMichiganBushCo]

As an aviation content creator I use a stabilizer on most of my handled footage. That easily could have been and probably was taken with a cell phone under canopy. Though if this was well planned out with waivers ect. There would have to be more people around than just him.

[@daveroche6522]

@@GreatMichiganBushCo Damn tootin'. "The Plot, my dear Watson, thickens".

[@Grey_Rock_]

If it's proven to have been a stunt Mr. Jacob he should never be allowed to fly again at the very least, and if the law makes provision he should be prosecuted. . Imagine for a second the aircraft killed people on the ground.

[@GreatMichiganBushCo]

That's the issue, right. If someone wants to destroy their property my libertarian side says let them. Yet when you start endangering other people and others property then most questions need to be asked.

[@mikem720]

Out there he is not endangering anyone if he left the aircraft with some mechanism to nose it in at a lower altitude. (If indeed it was a real crash in the first place anyway.) He could have ditched the plane at lowest possible jump altitude, under which that plane simply could not have climbed out without power, due to mountains. The jump you see could have been filmed earlier. People are overreacting to this IMO. Just a bunch of Karens and haters who think they should play air police SJW authoritarian popularity contest opinion winner of youtube or something. Pilots have always made me snicker. HAHA

[@darthhauler9947]

Not a pilot but....I'm pretty sure I could land it dead stick. When aviation games came out I was a pretty big fan of them and one of the things I always loved doing was a dead stick landing. AV8B Harrier Assault taught me to land on an aircraft carrier, which was hilarious watch me stall a Harrier out at 82 ft and a hundred knots with the parking brakes already set trying not to slide off the other side. It wasn't until Microsoft Flight Simulator and the advance of joysticks that I started to get more professional in landing but I always loved pushing the envelope like landing a 747-400 at Miegs Field. Now, Google tells me that a 747 needs 7900 ft to land properly but Miegs Field only had a 3900 ft runway. Remeber how I used to land Harriers? Works just fine on a 747 at Miegs Field. Just remember to be at stall speed with your brakes already locked otherwise you're going to turn a multi-million dollar plane into a jetski. Maybe if I knew what engine reversers were and how to activate them....

[@GreatMichiganBushCo]

That's a statement from someone who is not a pilot. As a pilot I have had a few engine out landings and while I know I wouldn't have bailed out and attempted a dead sick, but there is always some luck involved in a successful engine out.

[@darthhauler9947]

@@GreatMichiganBushCo True, but as I said, I'm not a real pilot and only ever do simulators. Different beast and not wholly realistic. As one KZbinr recently showed me, those 747's can really land anywhere if you're brave and dumb enough, even an aircraft carrier.

[@GreatMichiganBushCo]

@@darthhauler9947 Knowing the approach speeds of a 747, and having a good idea of the required landing distance. You're not putting a 747 down on an aircraft carrier.

[@darthhauler9947]

@@GreatMichiganBushCo Try it during a hurricane with 150 knot headwind

[@notinservice3724]

very good theory and back up story to explain thanks, but I beleive he was sucked out by an unknown phenom haha, there was a pilots reaction to that theory and was to funny

[@GreatMichiganBushCo]

Just plain silly did a funny video on this video. Veruli affect sucking him out just wasn't something that came to mind, So obvious once you think about it. 🤣

[@thopkins2271]

The biggest flag is stating “and that’s why I ALWAYS wear a parachute while flying.” Hopes we all ignore an entire channel’s worth of videos not once showing him wearing a parachute.

[@GreatMichiganBushCo]

Didn't he think someone would notice? When I talk about red flags to me that's a big red flag!

[@MSflyer2005]

KZbin isn't responsible for a youtbuers actions. Many aviators have great content on you tube without crashing their planes

[@GreatMichiganBushCo]

They definitely wouldn't be responsible for the actions. A jury might find them responsible for promoting the actions. I put some KZbin content out, really haven't done anything stupid with my airplane. Without a doubt there's good KZbinrs making quality aviation content for KZbin.

[@MSflyer2005]

@@GreatMichiganBushCo I think a more likely scenario would be the wallet company, if they knew he was going to do it, and used it as a promotion, without going through the proper channels. Thanks for the response!

[@GreatMichiganBushCo]

If the wallet company knew about this stunt I would think the will have some questions to answer. Honestly I hope this was all above board and a wonderfully organized publicity stunt, that would be best for all. Thank you for watching the video.

[@pgnandt]

This guy making pilots look like idiots. He did want to get famous. Now he is. Thanks Scott.

[@GreatMichiganBushCo]

With the number of views this video, I didn't make much of an impact on his fame or lack there of. of.

[@TexansForChrist]

Speaking of red flags, find the videos with frames showing 2 red fire extinguishers peeking out of his pant legs. Civil suits are his fear now

[@GreatMichiganBushCo]

Where do you see two and where is the red? Those could be bottles full of water and that would make more sense to me if you think you might be walking out of the bush.

[@BradiKal61]

@@GreatMichiganBushCo kzbin.info/www/bejne/oHfbd4WCpaaYl80 If you watch this video, @4:10 you can see the bottom of the fire extinguisher peeking out of the bottom of his pants cuffs as he falls from the plane. How could it be a water bottle if he wasnt expecting to have to bail out?

[@dougspindler4947]

Did you see he swapped engines. Look at the exhaust, valve covers and sparkplugs on the day of the flight. He even went so far as to paint the valve covers red so it wouldn't be as noticeable. Let's hope he gets a hefty fine for littering in a National Forest. He also did not transfer the registration into his name.

[@jessicamerriman2336]

I’m a pilot and believe this was staged. There are landing zones directly below him! Still, When it showed his “friends” ashes in a sandwich bag, and then hawked a wallet, it told me everything I need to know about this jerk. I hope the FAA pulls his ticket so fast he gets whiplash.

[@GreatMichiganBushCo]

Unfortunately the FAA never works that fast, even when the person it in the wrong. Sadly if he's guilty by the time action is taken everyone will have forgotten about this.

[@jessicamerriman2336]

@@GreatMichiganBushCo Agree with "they do take a while". I'm not sure many will forget though. This is blowing up to now including the sponsor and their knowledge or involvement. It's my hope the legal aspects keep it in the press until conclusion of the NTSB investigation. My last bit of hopeful optimism I suppose. 😉😁

[@jessicamerriman2336]

@@GreatMichiganBushCo of course I remember the one time I heard the dreaded 'I have a number for you" (minor deviation). My optimism was hoping someone thought I was cute and wanted to go out. Lol 😂

[@GreatMichiganBushCo]

@@jessicamerriman2336 I got that once. The only person I called was my aviation attorney.

[@jessicamerriman2336]

@@GreatMichiganBushCo never fails to make ones blood run cold though. Lol 😁

[@14sgdpg82]

i hope he understands hes going to have a massive fine coming his way with his license removed flying is NOT a right it is a privilege and for him to cause the reckless actions is beyond belief could have been a family camping or anything

[@GreatMichiganBushCo]

That's the problem. Instruction is about keeping other safe, you are second in that equation.

[@sofializzy4519]

Why would the FAA & NTSB be investigating if it was a cleared/planned stunt?

[@GreatMichiganBushCo]

I am not sure if the NTSB is "investigating" the preliminary report is not a typical type of factual report mentioning no facts or narrative. The FAA says it's "investigating" by federal procedure the FAA is required to investigate any report of a possible violation, so in this case I suppose a few people have files "reports."

[@ideacomcommunicationsgroup6425]

There isn't and N-Number on this aircraft. Odd?

[@GreatMichiganBushCo]

It's blurred out. 2" on the tail. You can have that size and placement on vintage aircraft.