Tri-ang Railways R.22 SR Passenger Coaches with early R.50 Princess Elizabeth

A Quick look at Tri-ang Railways R.22 SR Passenger Coaches (c1953-56) with early R.50 Princess Elizabeth & R.30 Tender (c1952-55?). All dates are approximate Music Source / Royalty-free Apple loops/Looperman.com
Link to earlier video with R.50/R.30 Princess Elizabeth:
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[@russellbenton2987]

It’s very satisfying getting these old models to run again . Restored to the order that someone would have seen at Christmas 60 odd years ago! Another good one Oscar! Thoroughly enjoyable

[@oscarpaisley]

Part of their charm. Thanks for watching. Oscar

[@chorlton4]

As a kid who did get one for Xmas, you are so right Iain! The finish on the coaches is great, as 'real' coaches often do have a sheen on them. An important point from you, Oscar, is that people/kids did not care too much about smooth , silent silky running, it was all about noise and movement back then and the joy that went with it!

[@oscarpaisley]

Good morning thanks for watching and taking the time to write this terrific, it’s hugely appreciated. Stay safe. Oscar

[@combatbunny9820]

Modern day model trains are more fragile but the older models can be repaired as very basic motors

[@barryuk676]

Marvellous that these old models work so well after a bit of fettling, the way that you film them makes them look really dynamic, keep up the good work.

[@oscarpaisley]

Hi Barry, it great to hear you are enjoying the video. Thanks. Oscar

[@terryblackman6217]

Dear Oscar. The thing I like about your videos is the love and enthusiasm you give to these vintage models.

[@oscarpaisley]

Many thanks! Oscar

[@trainsontuesday]

Hello Oscar, When I saw the title of today's video I thought "Well, I won't be making comparisons with my models today as I don't have any of those coaches" but then it turned out to be more about the Princess locos. I just had to stop and dig out my "odd" tender. It turns out that I have the earlier one as shown today with the Mk 2 coupler without the added striker plate. It is completely missing the pin to couple to the loco. All so very fascinating, thank you for another super video today. Regards, David.

[@oscarpaisley]

Good afternoon David, great to hear you found the video interesting. I have a hand full of items with this variation of the coupler. I think that pin to couple to the loco is a real weak point, perhaps not the metal part but the little plastic bit on the tender which it sits over. Thanks again for watching. Oscar

[@MrKlf1956]

Thanks Oscar, scary to think I'm not quite as old as your two princess models. I've got a couple of r21 coaches I like to run them behind a tank engine they look right to me. Reminds me of the train set I never got to own as a kid. It's called nostalgia i think. Thanks again Oscar, keep up the good work. All the best Kevin.

[@oscarpaisley]

Thanks Kevin, glad you are enjoying the videos. Oscar

[@antmerritt]

I had this loco as a kid and it was very noisy. Thanks for showing us. 👍

[@oscarpaisley]

Thanks for watching! Oscar

[@andrewr2825]

Another treat for us all Oscar! Although I think you may have inadvertently operated a slip coach arrangement early in the video when the last carriage became uncoupled! 👍🏻

[@oscarpaisley]

Hi Andrew, thanks again for watching glad you enjoyed the video. Oscar

[@redbank493]

Love your layout. The Princess was my first engine. Had 2 both R90’s. Wish I still had them.

[@oscarpaisley]

Thanks for watching! Oscar

[@pl1856]

Lap top issues here, I’ve missed seeing your film clips. Thank you Oscar excellent as per, gotta love the triangle Princesses keep well you and yours thanks again 👍🏻

[@oscarpaisley]

Welcome back! glad you enjoyed the video. Oscar

[@CW56]

I love the Princess Class.

[@ewoodrailway]

They look great mate.

[@devilscoachman79]

Nice one Oscar, Great looking coaches and that loco has certainly got a new lease of life now. The most amazing thing was that Christmas tape! I am fascinated as to the year that this was put on that box! Regards Kev

[@oscarpaisley]

Hi Kev, glad you enjoyed the video. That piece of tape really dose make the mind wonder about the history of that box and the model in it. Thanks again. Oscar

[@reliantrailways]

Loved the video! Maybe another video on the diesel railcar and the 08 diesel shunter?? :)

[@oscarpaisley]

Possibly! Thanks. Oscar

[@paulosman3369]

Hi Oscar yes I do have a bit of a collection fair bit of triang but at this moment in time it's still not at the big collectable prices, as is my collection of hornby dublo and wrenn items. I only started collecting wrenn when they were taken over by triang and both names were on the boxes, some triang items do get big money but I think mass production has held them back ,but none the less still exciting to have. Regards Paul osman

[@MrSnooze]

That Princess looks a lovely runner now Oscar, it sounded great with those coaches on your layout. Magnificent

[@oscarpaisley]

Many thanks! Oscar

[@davidstrains4910]

Great video Oscar those coaches look really nice

[@oscarpaisley]

Thanks David glad you enjoyed the video. Oscar

[@scooby2142]

I was expecting that old Girl to pull back over the Turntable into the Shed at the end. That would have made my day.. All the best Oscar - Fantastic details to your videos as always.. All the best wishes from scooby2142 xx

[@oscarpaisley]

Hi, will try and get her back across the turntable and into the shed another time. Thanks for watching. Oscar

[@mike59317]

Hi Oscar, I think both these locos are pre '55 as they have a slot for the front pony pivot point! But over time owners may have used parts and body shells from different production runs, who knows?But still a nice look at early Tri-ang Princess's.

[@oscarpaisley]

Thanks Michael as you say it would be hard to guarantee any of these models of this age are as they left the factory, unless you were the original owner. But they are great fun all the same. Tanks again for watching. Oscar

[@gs425]

I recall similar xmas tape from mid 70s. And in fact my first electric trains were a box of Triang tracks from Xmas 1976. I had a blue hymek, engineering coach (still have both items), 2 red cream 9 inch coaches and a dublo toad brake, glass wagon and converter wagon. But the abuse I used to give to that old old Triang P5 controller ...jeez... they are sturdy items.

[@oscarpaisley]

Hi great to hear you still have those after all this time. Thanks again for watching. Oscar

[@gareththomas1027]

Had the princess Elizabeth tender and coaches for Xmas in the fifties along with station platform etc which I noticed were in the triang catalogue you showed there was lines Bros. triang factory in Merthyr tydfil at the time my father worked there as a toolmaker probs had discount for princess elizabeth

[@oscarpaisley]

Good morning Gareth thanks for watching, glad you enjoyed the video it's great to hear father worked at the factory as a tool maker. Must have been very exciting to receive the Princess and Coaches and a Station as a gift at Christmas. Take care. Oscar

[@stevenpeaketrainsandstuff3682]

Great stuff as usual Oscar. I hadn't notice the slot in the rear frame before. I'm checking to see if any of mine have that. Steven.

[@oscarpaisley]

Hi Steven, I think it was done away with early on from what I've read, I dose affect the the swing on the rear truck, but this I think is as a result of warping in the Acetate rather than its design of the body shell. Glad you enjoyed the video. Oscar

[@RobA500]

It's really nice to see these old trains running around, you have quite a collection now by the look of things. Do you ever re magnetise the motors in order to keep them going? as they all seem to run very well from the videos I've watched so far.

[@oscarpaisley]

Hi Rob, glad you are enjoying the videos. Occasionally with new items to the collection re magnetising is needed. Thanks for watching. Oscar

[@lisalewis9237]

It's been a bit crazy lately. These early locos never really interested me until recently. Now I've gotten into looking for these very early Tri-ang models in addition to collecting the later versions. Thanks for excellent explanation of the differences in the early Princess models. It's interesting that Acetate plastic is still used today for various everyday items. Yet, I can't really think of any examples having gone wonky like some of these early models. I wonder what the differences are in Acetate used? Lisa

[@oscarpaisley]

Hi Lisa great to hear of you new found interest in these olde models. Someone mentioned to me in the comments some time ago that it is not necessarily the material thats the problem its self but the way in which it was treated during the manufacturing process. Oscar

[@lisalewis9237]

@@oscarpaisley Hi Oscar, That would make sense. There might have been differences in how the plastic was treated during the manufacturing process that would affect the long term stability of the material. Lisa

[@paulosman3369]

Thanks again Oscar for another informative video, I to have a few of these princesses mostly black but 3 green and one maroon, I done know if you notice but when at a show the vast difference in prices depending on colour. Some traders do try there luck, when I was told by one how rare they are, as with the coaches you have some nice ones there as I do , plus I do have a few quite bendy ones. But they are all part of my collection and would not part with them. Thanks again for a nice bit of coffee time viewing. Regards Paul osman

[@oscarpaisley]

Good morning Paul, sounds like you have quit a collection, I have a number of items now made from that material that warps and as you say all part of the collection. Oscar

[@djdaz72]

Very nice Oscar just love the old Tri-ang locos and stock

[@oscarpaisley]

Hi, Darren glad you enjoyed the video. Oscar

[@nickjervis8123]

I think my early Princess does not have any valve gear but later ones have. I note the green one was available from 1954, I think.

[@oscarpaisley]

Hi Nick, I'm not 100% sure but I don't think the The Black Princess got the full valve gear here in the UK. It may have in New Zealand and Australia? Thanks for watching. Oscar

[@Jules-zo3ds]

Now you need to find the Rovex version with the plunger pickups, plastic wheels mark 1 couplings. There's still a few about but a lot were converted to metal wheels and phosphor bronze wheel pickups.

[@tonyhill6296]

Jules loved your comment on another excellent ‘Oscar’ video. I have a plunger pick up version with all plastic wheels. Set it on my Peco Code 100 track and amazingly, off she struggled! I was so surprised the loco ran through a group of streamline points with little or no problems. After seeing this video I’ll give this model a gentle but though service and see how good a performance I can achieve. As to date - advice please! I think it would be around 1950 from a set made for M&S with a black battery box ‘controller’. It’s not as old as me but probably runs rather better! The matching coaches all have ‘banana’ shaped roofs, to prove they are authentic. Happy modelling. 🚂 T

[@Jules-zo3ds]

@@tonyhill6296 There's loads of information on-line but it's about 1951. I have one without the correct tender and it's a great runner and you can clearly see the DNA that made the Tr1-ang Railways empire. There's an even earlier version with rollers instead of plunger pickups but it had very poor pickup performance and they are extremely rare. the trouble is that most of them got the Tri-ang metal wheel and pickup conversion.

[@Jules-zo3ds]

With those coaches, I've had some success soaking the roofs in hot water which softens the plastic and then, with a cloth wrapped round, gently teasing back into shape. It takes a few goes and the results are not perfect but it does take some of the stress out of the roof.

[@oscarpaisley]

Hi Jules, I do have a Princess with plunger pickups and plastic wheels and the tender has the mark one coupling. But sadly she is missing her front steps. Thanks for watching. Oscar

[@Jules-zo3ds]

@@oscarpaisley Oscar; steps or no steps, please do a video on it. I'd love to see how it copes with your layout and it's a very important piece of Tri-ang history.

[@PaulinesPastimes]

She runs so smoothly. What is that yellow plate under the capacitor? I noticed that your acetate Jinty has the same thing and I wondered if it contributes to the smoothness of the motor. These things catch my eye and I just wondered. Love the Christmas tape too, so sweet. Cheers

[@oscarpaisley]

Hi Pauline, I believe it is a TV suppressor. Andrew in the comments below indicates that it may be an aftermarket version available at that time. I've not come across them on the Tri-ang servicing sheets yet. Thanks agin for watching. Oscar

[@PaulinesPastimes]

Thank you.

[@andrewfanner2245]

The TV supressor looks suggestive of the aftermarket one that was available for a while.

[@oscarpaisley]

Hi, Andrew thanks for the information. Oscar

[@lewlwicalusiaipereka6864]

Oglądam twoje filmiki fajne masz te Parowozy 😷 pozdrawiam, ja se zrobiłem do zabawy podłogową makietę składaną na weekendy do zabawy, bo na codzień mam makiety nad łóżkiem i na szafie 😉

[@oscarpaisley]

Hi, having enough space can be a problem with model railways. Glad you are enjoying the videos. Thanks for watching. Oscar