Tri-ang Railways R.50 Princess & R.30 Tender

[@downthegaragelayout.7465]

Great video Oscar. I love repairing these old things.👍👍

[@terryblackman6217]

Dear Oscar. Thank you for another great and informative video. Sunday mornings would not be the same without a cup of tea and a bit of Oscar. Thanks again.

[@oscarpaisley]

Good morning Terry, glad you enjoyed the video. Thanks for watching. Oscar

[@pezza_trains]

Great video, I have to say, I do enjoy resurrecting old triang locos despite my main modelling being more refined DCC. I acquired an old Princess Elizabeth today that was a wreck and is now running like a dream on my little boys layout.

[@keithbrowning3899]

I had one of those as a Xmas present in 1957. Reliable and ran forever.

[@oscarpaisley]

Hi Keith that sounds great, do you still have the model. Thanks for watching. Oscar

[@keithbrowning3899]

@@oscarpaisley Unfortunately no as my mother gave my Triang Railway to the local Scout jumble when I headed off to university. Still have a model railway collection but now consists mainly of 1960s Marklin, but it was the Triang trainset for Xmas when I was six that started me off.

[@hollpoll]

I found just watching you bring this old girl back to life very therapeutic Oscar great video mate, Stewart

[@oscarpaisley]

Thanks for the great comment. Glad you enjoyed the video. Oscar

[@davidmathews2219]

what a good way of spending Sunday morning. A good cup of coffee and a superb maintenance vid of yours I wish i could service mine in 35 mins. im looking forward to next weeks show.

[@oscarpaisley]

Thanks David glad you enjoyed the video. Oscar

[@WhatAboutTheBee]

A delightful change of pace. Thoroughly enjoyable. I agree, Oscar, this isn't a "how to". Its a "how I did it" and I think you did it well. Cheers!

[@oscarpaisley]

Thanks glad you enjoyed it, great to hear. Oscar

[@gareththomas1027]

Great stuff so relaxing to watch

[@oscarpaisley]

Good morning Gareth thanks for watching, glad you enjoyed the video. Take care. Oscar

[@geoffwalker315]

This brought back memories of my first train set when I was 13.

[@oscarpaisley]

Thanks for watching Geoff. Oscar

[@idrisdixon6998]

@@oscarpaisley You must be the same age as me Geoff

[@brucewoods9377]

Brilliant, love to see old classic non runners brought back to life. It’s amazing what a little TLC can do. 👍👍👍

[@oscarpaisley]

Good morning Bruce glad you enjoyed it. It's all great fun. Stay safe. Oscar

[@russellbenton2987]

Fascinating Oscar. You disassembled model very assuredly whereas I’d have a lot more trepidation . Was surprised you clean chassis with hot soapy water . I thought that might result in rust and have always avoided using water on my models . What a great reassembly job . Lots of great tips in there

[@oscarpaisley]

Thanks Russell, I was always wary of using water at first someone suggested it at the model railway shop(now closed) some time ago. I've also washed a lot of track before using it on the layout with warm soapy water with good results. I think the drying part is important to avoid any rusting. Thanks for watching glad you found it informative. Oscar

[@kevinsturgess1475]

I haven't cleaned an engine chassis in a long time,was good to have a refresher and see someone else's technique .Thank's bud

[@oscarpaisley]

Hi Kevin Glad you found the video informative. Thanks for watching Oscar

[@countmurcielago9802]

Great informative video am Just getting back into my old trains from many years ago and needed to know what makes them go and how and what I need to service them this has given me a huge insight to getting mine going again after years of storage

[@oscarpaisley]

Hi glad you enjoyed it and found it helpful thanks for watching. Oscar

[@redbank493]

Well done. The Princess was my first loco back in 1960. It was 2nd hand then

[@timhoward7037]

Thanks for this video, I just got one of those working today and your video was helpful :-)

[@oscarpaisley]

Good morning Tim glad you enjoyed the video and found it helpful. Thanks again take care. Oscar

[@alexwoods1094]

Very enjoyable and useful video. Love the old Triang model trains and have a few myself. Subscribed

[@johnchester7625]

You've done it again Oscar! Brilliant piece of work and very much appreciated.

[@oscarpaisley]

Hi John, glad you enjoyed it! Thanks again. Oscar

[@johne5854]

Great video. Given me some ideas on cleaning up my old Princess.

[@davidstrains4910]

Great video Oscar it is amazing how this loco has started this hobby for so many people

[@oscarpaisley]

Good morning David, yes it's one of those key items I think in the model railway industry. Oscar

[@johnedwards5812]

Great video. We are used to seeing your locos performing so well on the layout and this gave some valuable insight into "how you do it"

[@oscarpaisley]

Thanks John, hope you found it useful. Oscar

[@MrSnooze]

That runs nicely now Oscar, it definitely deserves occasional light use on your layout. Very enjoyable to see you bring it back to good running condition. A great video.

[@oscarpaisley]

Hi great to hear you enjoyed the video. I shall definitely be using this model on the railway from time to time. She's great fun to operate. Thanks, for watching Oscar

[@michael1aaron]

Hi Oscar, wow what a brilliant how to video :)...I purchased a B.R. Standard Class 3 060 via eBay and was quite disappointed with its very poor running quality. A very black XO4 motor was removed cleaned oiled and put back but it still ran poorly. Now having watched how simple you made the wheel rod removal and cleaning that will be my next job. A big thank you.

[@oscarpaisley]

Good morning Michael, great to hear you found the video informative. Thanks for watching Oscar

[@philandrews777]

Great to see how other people go about it . I always have first tested then can't help myself but to pull a new purchase down , nice to see how well the fibre glass pen works . PS , would be nice to see another video on the accessories on the layout , such as the moulded buildings , etc . .

[@oscarpaisley]

Thanks Phil. Glad you enjoyed the video and found it interesting. Oscar

[@DrAl60103]

Great insight - would be great to see more of these type of overhauls on other models.

[@oscarpaisley]

Great to hear you found it useful, possibly more in the future. Thanks for watching. Oscar

[@PaulinesPastimes]

Oh, well done for doing all that while watching through the phone. I know how hard that is. :-) Lovely early loco and such sweet little coaches too. Lots of fun. Cheers.

[@oscarpaisley]

Good morning Pauline, great to hear you enjoyed the video and seeing these items running on the railway. Thanks for watching. Oscar

[@gord307]

Thank you Oscar - great to see how you manage to get your models running so well. Yes, the old Triang models do have a certain smell which seems to get nicer with age :-)

[@oscarpaisley]

Thanks Gord, glad you found it interesting. Oscar

[@manunderthemask4762]

Woah Oscar! Your very good at this, i'm doing up a flying Scotsman so this was very helpful!

[@ciaranburke3243]

Very interesting, nice work 👍

[@oscarpaisley]

Thanks. Glad you enjoyed the video. Oscar

[@scottlloyd1938]

Thanks for the video, this has helped me massively

[@oscarpaisley]

Good morning Scott it’s great to hear the video was of use to you. Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment its hugely appreciated. Oscar

[@paull2613]

Excellent and helpful thanks Oscar

[@oscarpaisley]

Hi Paul, glad you found it useful. Thanks for watching. Oscar

[@simonblake5563]

Many thanks Oscar that was very helpful indeed!

[@oscarpaisley]

Good evening Simon great to hear you found the video helpful. Thanks for watching. Oscar

[@KevBygrave]

Nice one Oscar, brilliant video, I bet you have done a few of these in your time, you made it look so easy and very professional. I`m quite good at doing the brush type 2 although on odd occasions after reassembly a few go the opposite way to the controller! Regards Kev

[@oscarpaisley]

Hi Kev, great to hear you enjoyed the video. I think we have all assembled things from time to time that run the wrong direction. Thanks for watching. Oscar

[@krazytroutcatcher]

I’ve had a few of these princesses over the years, I even picked up a battered one last summer for 50p. Years ago I had a bash at kit building, kit bashing and scratch building, I found the wheelbase of the princess chassis to be the same as the class A5 GCR (LNER) and the A8 NER (LNER) so I used the chassis for the basis of these models. If you wish to aftermarket wheels with 1/8” axles, then Alan Gibson frame bushes (if they’re still the same dimensions) are an interference fit into the Triang chassis, enabling you to fit finer scale wheels.

[@oscarpaisley]

Hi Ruben I think a lot of modellers in the past used Tri-ang items as the basis of finer more accomplished looking models. Thanks for watching and the information. Oscar

[@pgclift51]

It's alive!!! Well done Oscar.

[@oscarpaisley]

Thanks Phillip. Oscar

[@andrewfanner2245]

Excellent video and great end result. Like many, one of these in a set started me back into collecting Triang some 25 or so years back. You may not have intended a "how to" but its given me some suggestions for things I've not done and should, ther wheel cleanup with the glassfibre brush being one of them,. I really must improve my soldering:-) Thanks for making this.

[@oscarpaisley]

Hi Andrew. Glad its been useful. Thanks for watching. Oscar

[@johnpowell5433]

I was digging in a box of old Tri-ang and came across what must be the slightly later version of Princess Elizabeth. I had the chassis in my hands as you progressed through the video and have learned a lot. I need the 'hairpin' and some brushes to be able to see if she'll run but now I know what to do. Cheers!

[@oscarpaisley]

Good morning John glad you enjoyed it and found it useful. Have a look at the link below they have a great range of spares available, I found some excellent bits and pieces from this site to get things up and running again. Take care. Oscar www.hornbytriangspareparts.co.uk/dep/OO-Gauge-Spare-Parts

[@trainsontuesday]

Quotes of the day; "She seems a little bit dead." "Should bottle that smell." and "We need more fingers than we really have." Those were classic Oscar. As you say, not a how too but your way which I think we can all agree is a pretty good way. Great result. David.

[@andrewr2825]

Took the words out of my mouth David!!!😂😂

[@trainsontuesday]

@@andrewr2825 Hi Andrew, I found these quotes extremely funny. Just great. Cheers, David.

[@andrewr2825]

We must be like minded as well as Oscar!

[@oscarpaisley]

Hi David, glad it made your day and gave you a laugh. Oscar

[@Warrentvoid]

I'm in the process of cleaning up a Princess with a red body and black ash box. It has a hairline crack in the footplate but is otherwise in pretty good condition. Somebody has done a bodge job on soldering the resistor and wires to the pickup and brush arm, but that's just cosmetic (although as an electronics technician I will clean that up). I had some runout on the rear axle, so it looked like it might have been dropped, but squeezing the two wheels together between my thumbs and forefingers at the maximum runout point fixed it up nicely. You provided some nice tips here, but I was thinking that an ultasonic cleaner might be the go for the block cleanup. I don't have one, but I intend to get one. I picked up a nice little Connie (yellow 0-4-0) with the Pricess and will give that a clean too.

[@oscarpaisley]

Good morning Gary ultrasonic cleaner sounds interesting it would be great to hear how you get on with it. Thanks again take care Oscar.

[@lisalewis9237]

Hi Oscar, What a good way to spend Sunday morning. A cup of coffee and a great Tri-ang maintenance video. I look forward to next week's show. I wonder if some non sparkling silver nail polish would work to paint those connection rods? Rust is evil! Lisa

[@oscarpaisley]

Hi Lisa, glad you enjoyed the video. Thanks for the tip about the nail varnish. Oscar

[@richardbarclay6320]

Wonderful!

[@oscarpaisley]

Many thanks! Oscar

[@barryuk676]

Great video Oscar I really enjoyed the journey of getting the old Princess back into working order I wonder how many of today's toy trains will be functioning so well in 50 years time? Fitting that last screw was a really tense cliff hanger I could see it going wrong but you managed to get it done without incident. Look forward to watching next weeks video, keep well.

[@oscarpaisley]

Hi Barry, it was a bit tense thank goodness it didn't go wrong. Ideally, you would do most of these things on the bench not held up to camera. Thanks for watching. Oscar

[@630julien]

Thankyou so much for another great video . They do make Sunday morning a time to look forward to. Just a thought for a video !! I know you have covered the catenary before but I think people would be interested on how it goes together over points and crossings. I have been peering but wondered if there were any special units to connect the wires etc . Very kind regards Richard

[@oscarpaisley]

Hi Richard it’s great to hear you’re enjoying the videos. I will make a video on setting up the catenary at some point once I’ve got clear baseboards and I can show clearly how it goes together as you suggest. I have loosely covered some of the parts in an up-and-coming video as the catenary was removed from the layout. Thanks again for watching and a suggestion for future video. Oscar

[@davidward8682]

Brilliant video Oscar just got my 1956 out of the box.where are the fibre glass pen avaiable fro and also the oil pens

[@oscarpaisley]

Thank you David glad you enjoyed the video take care. Oscar

[@chorlton4]

The Black Princess is one of the biggest selling model locos in the UK, maybe the biggest ever? numbers like 600,000 quoted. Got me started at the age of 10.

[@ajivins1]

I just got one of these from a junk shop and got it going. It has the steps on the front bogie but still doesn't have the full D couplings. Early to mid sixties?

[@garethparkin9498]

Hi oscar has anyone tried to modify the flanges on the wheels or fitted newer wheelsets to be able to run on modern track? I'm just restoringnone at the moment and I'd be interested to know what you think?

[@johnmichaelcrossen4582]

Great Video , When I get back from Lockdown of this Covid-19 virus , I will be reviewing again and cleaning up my Princess Elizabeth , following all these points , just a helpful comment any crome if left in white vinigar would lift the rust .Thanks again

[@oscarpaisley]

Afternoon John, great to hear you found the video interesting. Thanks for the information and taking the time to watch. Oscar

[@xinplayz541]

Hi i have a similar loco with same motor, i need to test it but i have no idea what i need to do that, could you help?

[@idrisdixon6998]

WOW What a great video that was, I had a princess back in 1956, I remember taking it apart in the 60's as one of the drive wheels went wonkky, then girlsgot in the way. So tell me, is it possiable to replace or aline the wheels (I've since accured three more princess's and I'd like to get all four running, again thanks for the HOW TO DO video...Iddy

[@oscarpaisley]

God morning Idris, great to hear you found the video interesting, wonky wheels can be relatively easily usually by removing the wheels on the insulated side these are the one that are most often at fault as they are pushed onto a plastic insulating bush which has some flexibility in it but not much especially as they are rather old now you easy these wheels off, the bush normal brakes when you do this. Its not recommended that you reuse the old bush as that is part of the original problem. www.hornbyguide.com/service_sheet_details.asp?sheetid=153 looking at the service sheet you will see the bush is part S5065 these can be found on that we know auction site. Carefully refit the wheels with the new bushes making sure they are inline and not wonky. This is where the slight flexibility of the bushes help as adjustments can be made. Remember the to keep an eye on the quartering so the model runs smoothly when reassembled. Barrie Davis has some great videos on kzbin.info/door/hVzVVov7HJOrrZ6HRvV2GAsearch?query=quartering If the wheels are out of true on the none insulated side or the axels are bent replacement wheel my be the way to go, you will still need the insulating bushes. Thanks for watching hope this was of some help. Stay safe. Oscar

[@AndrewCooper-eo7oh]

Very good great

[@johngibson4641]

Again Oscar ,, Thaks a heap ,, a very helpful video especially the insulating plate on the base of the engine ,, Q.. What is this made of is it cardboard ? Also ,, where about do you get the fibreglass pen from that you used to clean the copper wipers that pick up current from the wheels ? Cheers from John in Australia.

[@oscarpaisley]

Hello again John, I have to admit to not knowing the name of the material used on the collection plate it can look quite fibrous on one side and shiny on the other on the early models and is often brown later and is quite ridged later models it looks to be more of a plastic-type materials and I have and some of my 0-4-0 Nellie/Polly industrial type models have a quite bendy thin material used. so I think they may have used several different products to make these collection plates over the years. It just has to be insulating. The fibreglass pen is from the jewellery industry I think but are used by modelers to there are a number of options if you search "Fibre Glass Scratch Pencil Brush Clean" on that well know aution site or market place it should point you in the right direction. Thanks agin take care. Oscar

[@PhilPage227]

Really good to watch you service that loco Oscar. I have Princess Victoria with solid wheels, I would love to date it, it has two blood and custard coaches with it. Any clues as to what I could look for to try and date it.? I am thinking around 1960. it runs very well but could do with a tender respray and a tiny repair on the front buffer beam.

[@oscarpaisley]

Hi Philip, it could have been an R3A set in 1959 or the RS1 set in 1960 to about 1962. Both these sets had the Princess Victoria although the R3A started life with Princess Elizabeth. Oscar

[@PhilPage227]

@@oscarpaisley Thank you Oscar.

[@markhamilton2735]

Oscar I have an old triang princess that I’m attempting to get working . I have a confusing issue that I hope you can help with. I’ve replaced damaged wheels , new pickups , new motor brushes and given everything a good service. The problem I’m having is if I put power directly to the motor it runs strong in both directions but as soon as I connect all the wiring and put it on the track I’m not getting any power. I’ve tested my other locos on the same track and they work fine. Any ideas as frankly I’m stumped as to what’s wrong

[@oscarpaisley]

Good morning Mark sounds like the power is not finding its way to the motor. I would check you have the wheel in the correct way round, the insulated ones should be on the side with the pickups. Also, remove the collection plate with the pickups on, the wire solder joint to the pickup can break over time and leave the model without power when all else looks fine. Hope this was of some help. Take care. Oscar

[@timhoward7037]

Hopefully you solved this by now, but if not it's worth connecting the wiring, sitting the loco on track, and still applying power to the motor brushes. If there is any kind of short due to wiring or wheels not installed correctly the motor won't move. If the motor does move then as per other comment it's a pickup or wiring issue. I just serviced one of these today, they are pretty bullet-proof and I'm sure you'll get it working.

[@robindow5742]

hi oscar i foud a good tip for cleaning plastic wheels use bathroom spray cleaned and it works i have cleaned loads including airfix mainline lima and hornby it leaves no residue and is quite gentle and unlike washing up liquid it doesnt attack the plastic regards robin

[@oscarpaisley]

Hi Robin, thanks for the information. Oscar

[@karlstead773]

Hi there pal hoping you can help me out please with a little problem I have, how to remove the 6 x wheels from the chassis, I've got 6x triang steam engines that I've just recently bought which Iam doing each one up, with some missing parts and some really dirty, the first one I tried tapping the shaft out but none seemed to move, then put it in a container and soaked the wheels in a oil and yeah still bloody nothing, hope you can help me out and might have a easy solution thank you for listening to me go on

[@oscarpaisley]

Hi Karl sounds like the the axels/chassies may be very corroded if your not able to tape them out once you have removed the insulated wheels from what you are describing. Oscar

[@stephenbarrs2318]

Hi if you rub a piece of screwed up aluminium foil slightly dipped in water along the connecting rods to clean and resilver them.

[@jimmanyk]

Scratch & sniff a future feature of the channel?

[@CipherKilledit]

Wooo! :)

[@mewsdo]

A smell you'd like to bottle... I remember that smell. What is it, exactly? Ozone? Such an interesting video.

[@oscarpaisley]

Good evening Douglas it’s an odd smell but strangely pleasing. I’m not sure exactly how it’s occurs but I think it must have something to do with a spark generated within the motor. Thanks for watching take care. Oscar

[@johnylitalo4163]

This was used for Gordon by the Rev. W. Awdry.

[@Pete7647]

Mine idennticle but the very early version (mine) never had a front coupling.

[@oscarpaisley]

Great to hear you have such an early version. Thanks for watching Oscar

[@whitewallwheels1hardcore.m_o_h]

check the trailing bogey axle you will see there is 2 parts nerled on the axle so one of the wheels stays static on the axle

[@oscarpaisley]

Hi, thanks for the information and taking the time to watch. Oscar

[@whitewallwheels1hardcore.m_o_h]

other wise the pin axle would drop out when ever its put on its side i side nearled so it cant drop out

[@stuew6]

I own Green Loco

[@oscarpaisley]

That's great. Thanks for watching. Oscar

[@tellitlikeitis-rg4ny]

Have you tried the aluminium foil trick for the running gear to remove rust