Trial and Retribution Episode #1.2

[@jonathancollier7024]

Personally I think this was the best of all the Trial and Retributions. The other episodes were also excellent, but this is my favourite 🙂👍💯🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿

[@vickinoeske1711]

Totally disturbing outcome. Great series. Thanks for posting.

[@bevross935]

Such brilliant acting by the Michael character and such a brilliant screenplay. Wow. Interesting how the young son was a kind of mirror to Michael and one could see that without a lot of help his rage would lead to big trouble down the road.

[@AmlSept]

Well scripted in that respect. Goes to show you that your life is trouble.

[@evelinacz1773]

An excellent movie, British are the best ones..thanks a lot..

[@skygazer6898]

The stepfather was definitely a child beater but how come he had hidden Julie Anne's doll? Why would the dumb mother keep silent about that? Powerful stuff! Chilling to think this happens all the time in real life. An excellent series, one of the greats, and the acting is ace. Thanks very much for uploading.

[@richardhewit215]

Why do you think he hid the doll. If you watch the start again, it's clear she doesn't have the doll with her in the playground.

[@billmcanally7782]

@@richardhewit215 he never hid the doll, he just didn't want it coming out that the doll the police found was not hers.

[@richardhewit215]

@@billmcanally7782 I was replying to Skygazer who claimed he hid the doll, I just asked him why he thought that, but forgot the question mark.

[@TheVeek192]

Where are you getting the idea that it "happens all the time?"

[@richardhewit215]

@@TheVeek192 Once is too often.

[@kenreeve6549]

This is one to measure up to . Incredibly good drama and acting , highly recommend thank you for the upload

[@helenlauer9545]

surely this is award winning television theatre

[@debbiehenri7170]

Are these stories deliberately written to 'keep' us guessing when the credits roll at the end? The fact that the step-father was extremely violent and suspicious, forcing his partner to change her story about the time he went searching, burning the doll, and then getting rid of the son would make it seem he is likely the guilty one - especially given Dunn's private denials over the murder. Would the police really take the amended time claims from the mother, moan about it a bit between themselves, and then just go with it? Plus, I'm quite sure that once such livid bruising had been spotted on the son's legs, a social worker would've (or should've) been brought in to question him alone, especially as professionals had witnessed both parents chastise him unfairly. In real life, they do look for that kind of thing, and they'll jump on it quick when they see evidence of it. Also, I'm not so sure the trial would have been allowed to continue once it had been known that a policeman had planted evidence. Clearly this officer was losing his mind and his colleagues should have been wondering if there was more he'd done that he hadn't told them. I don't know... I like a story to be wrapped up without a shadow of doubt regarding the conclusion. To leave a load of loose ends flapping about like this leaves one feeling a bit unclear whether the final verdict was fair or not.

[@heatherfoley4945]

Right...I don't know either. Nuts!

[@AmlSept]

Your right but sometimes these people point a finger and then only gather evidence towards that conviction rather than looking at the whole evidence and sorting it out. Anyone could be guilty that way. The jury was very wrong as there was some a lot of doubt.

[@tai9875]

Dunn is guilty the person who created the episode confirms this!!!!

[@kevinbernard9791]

I strongly believe Jason killed his sister and an innocent alkie was convicted for a crime he did not commit

[@Whatitbedo]

@@kevinbernard9791Jason got big hands for a kid doh

[@izzy9132]

That was brilliantly written, acted and directed. Lydia LaPlante out did herself with this one. It was even better than my all time favorite Prime Suspect's.

[@ketidaco]

Great acting but frustrating movie. Should’ve been thrown out of court. His alibi was good and the little brother was guilty in my opinion. This is first episode. I hope they’re all not full of holes like this one ...

[@marvinchoudhary1116]

The victim's house not thoroughly searched, siblings not questioned couldn't help but doubt police procedures here... stepfather very dubious

[@cassandrayork8660]

1:38:28 was the moment that his lawyer realized that he was guilty.

[@DelightedSAfrican]

Step-father's potential guilt was not adequately investigated. The mother of the little girl protected him by hiding the doll and by destroying evidence in order to put guilt on Michael Dunn but the blood on the bottle neck and Michael Dunn's finger print was clear indisputable evidence of his guilt. His poor lawyer believed he was a victim of circumstances right up until the end. He believed his own lies, like psychopaths do, which makes them so convincing.

[@bobmarley965]

Agreed, ridiculous...the brother is key...stepfather suspect

[@jaycee3404]

Lucky it only a tv show then

[@joannekucks4343]

Kept me guessing to the end. Evidence was critical. I thought the jury would be split. The police officer that planted the rope will go on to play a crooked character in Eastenders.

[@carmeloreilly5908]

I think the boyfriend wanted rid of the little girl as well as the little boy cos he hated their father, and wanted to be alone with their mother, and I think the grandmother believed it was him murdered Julie

[@Revelation18-4]

That's possible too.

[@touchdown8215]

I had to watch the last half twice to see if I missed anything. It isn't clear who the culprit is and I find it disappointing after investing the time. Don't leave the audience hanging!

[@Qendrese3549]

It was Dunn. The bottle they find at the end is the key evidence, but I agree the way it is presented is a little confusing.

[@ArcherGinger]

Unfortunately more trials end where the absolute certainty is lacking. Innocent individuals are sometimes sent to prison.

[@touchdown8213]

​@@ArcherGingerYes I believe there are many innocent people in prison. I just wish the show was clearer.

[@juliamills4003]

Brilliant acting glad I found this 👌

[@Michelle-kf8me]

I can't believe I haven't heard of this good gripping drama.im hooked and I like the screen shots.

[@ismailfarah4852]

I love the slight screens n the acting is superb

[@playingwithsticks6819]

Hopefully real justice doesnt operate like this. Planted evidence - case should have been thrown out. Jurys decision was crazy and no appeal. Good show but unbelievable ending ruined it

[@evverrette1]

I'm so glad you said that. I agree.

[@TheVeek192]

Well, the show ends before the timeline would show an appeal. The end is the end of what we get, not what would actually happen in a real trial. We get the end of THIS part of the story.

[@AcidRayne100]

The writer, Lynda La Plante, has said that there are giveaways on who the killer was. The clock in the older lady's flat showed the stepdad was definitely at home when Julie was abducted, the blue bottle being found with Michael's fingerprints and Julie's blood on it, and the close up of the killer's hand pointed to Michael Dunn indeed being the killer. As for an appeal (which in real life he would most definitely be granted under those circumstances) La Plante said if she were to write a sequel that the blue bottle evidence would be used, and Michael would have changed his plea to guilty during the proceedings. However there was probably no appetite for an audience to sit through the same story again, so she never went about writing a sequel.

[@wb1644]

The stepfather, the brother, someone else, just not this guy here standing trial. What really is true justice?

[@margannegoupilbleyzat6612]

The guy standing trial was not Michael Dunn as stated by the welsh witness ... he was a very disturbed individual and perhaps did not know who he was... there were three men drinking together... As for the son it is a known fact that often when a son sees his mother beaten on a regular basis he will in turn be violent himself.

[@tinapeters5725]

Thank you for this excellent upload, I agree with other comments, I wanted the stepfather to be guilty & what was the story about burning the doll found under the bed something was very strange about that family.

[@izzybling4439]

so who did it then as I am so confused?was it the bf?

[@seriousros7280]

I reckon it was the emotional policeman

[@Marie0575]

This episode needed a part 3, the police fked up, right there no one should even trust them a single bit. Am really pissed off with the ending.

[@ilaria298]

Hahaha all these ppl he was framed by who? He did it, even Lynda la planet confirmed in an interview that he did it…

[@johnschlesinger2009]

The judge's summing up indicated strongly to the jury that they should acquit, and yet they did not. The alibi witness clearly lacked credibility perhaps due to the amount of booze consumed? I was hoping for a sequel - it seemed very likely that the stepfather was the murderer, especially when the girl's doll turned up in the flat. Most disappointing that there was no follow up. A distressing case in many ways.

[@bettybeard6254]

Anyone think it could of been the brother?

[@lorispain1]

I did.

[@aftabgill1648]

no, cuz they show a man's hand pulling Julie from the park, in the beginning of the series.

[@annipetratos9401]

@@aftabgill1648 the mans hand could have taken julie to the flat....but no more

[@kirsty3253]

He was a tragic little boy, who when you saw him being taken away to a foster home you realised he was following the same pattern as Dunn. He'd been abused and no one seemed to care.

[@Sad_Bumper_Sticker]

No bc the poor girl was SA’d brutally, and such wee boy wouldn’t have done so brutally, and shoving the body forwards he wouldn’t have had the strength. And the ice cream and nuts in her stomach. Either Dunn or the Stepfathet

[@OrangeySky11]

How in the hell did that pc even get a job with the police? I can’t think he would have passed a psychological evaluation.

[@deborahkelly1948]

We all have our own breaking points, he obviously reached his lol

[@OrangeySky11]

@@deborahkelly1948 The psych eval is conducted (at least here in the states) BEFORE actually becoming an officer. It is intense and very thorough and is intended to pick up underlying issues which would at some point render an officer unfit for duty.

[@kaysmith4594]

Obviously not thorough enough. a lot of US cops seem to be psycho racists

[@OrangeySky11]

@@kaysmith4594 Psycho racists ........ well, maybe you should just move to another country .....#newrulesapplyneverapologize

[@cynthiaadams2392]

😑🙄

[@MsAgriolouloudo]

Lice are highly infectious and if Dunne had them he would most certainly have transferred them to Julie - actually, there were a few other inconsistencies I noted as well and I waited to see if they'd be mentioned but they weren't. Overall, both episodes were too long and drawn out, and as already been pointed out by others, the evidence for conviction was circumstantial and lacking; while La Plante is good at crime writing, she's better off staying away from court-room scenes where knowledge of the law is necessary, otherwise she comes across as a dilettante.

[@MsAgriolouloudo]

@UNITED NATION AhHaaa, so there WERE nitigating circumstances then! Bravo!

[@fatfrreddy1414]

gripping, moving and vert well made.. I don't think he did it! many thanks

[@robynfarrar278]

There was the child's blood on the bottle along with his fingerprints.....cannot beat forensics.

[@bananacake9289]

I don’t think he did it either, Alfred!! Ok....a few anomalies, like the bottle ‘evidence’ BUT.....what about the burning of the doll scene in the kitchen!! Suspicious 🤨 to me! 🤷‍♀️ I reckon Michael was somehow framed!!!

[@jamesmitchell8922]

​@@robynfarrar278 And today's DNA could still prove a 100% match.

[@tomadalove5852]

O loathe this so called "mother". Her son is going to grow up to be a narc.because of her.

[@raijahelenafinland7004]

Me too! She's despicable.

[@jelenabrebric7716]

I agree, awful mother. Poor children, she is as much to blame as a killer for their miserable lives.

[@tomadalove5852]

@@jelenabrebric7716 Getting a feel up he skirt by her no good boyfriend while the kid is being kidnapped for being outside alone.

[@silviabrunialti3342]

The bottle was smashed and Dunn could have cut himself then. Quite a movie. Love the loose ends and Michael’s desperate rage in his cell.

[@cassiegreene9528]

Michael's fingerprints and Julies's blood on the bottle shard.

[@Revelation18-4]

​@@cassiegreene9528 Didn't Dunn and his lover drink some of the sherry? If they did, Dunn's fingerprints would be on the bottle. So that just leaves the blood.

[@barbarajones9385]

@Revelation There would have been multiple other prints on the bottle. Those of the woman to whom the sherry belonged. She we can assume did not commit the murder. And those of the 'real murderer' if you believe Dunn didn't done do it. But no other suspects prints were found. It was Dunn.

[@SuperDeut4]

I dont think he did it. I belive him. He was framed.

[@rebeccagable9629]

I hated this ending--wanted the stepfather to have done it bc he was so evil.

[@tomadalove5852]

The mother is even more evil for having him in her life.....the father should take the children out of that ebvironmnet.

[@debbiehenri7170]

Where was the boy's real father when Jason was put into care? And where was the boy's grandmother come to that? Both seemed to be caring people, at least that's how they were portrayed. I just can't see either of them going along with such a decision and not coming forward to take him off their hands. Putting a child into care is a last resort - not a free holiday.

[@bananacake9289]

I also hated this ending!! 😡 I was convinced the step dad did it!!! In fact, I’m sure he hid and the mother knew it as well......all the doll business, when they were burning it in the kitchen! 🤷‍♀️🤷‍♀️😡

[@richardhewit215]

@@bananacake9289 They thought boy did it. They burnt the doll to keep him out of borstal. But the girl didn't have the doll with her.

[@jamesmitchell8922]

​@tomadalove5852 Environment

[@peggycomin3906]

The killer could have worn gloves to hide his fingerprints, but how would he have found the blue bottle? How could the Stepdad have known about the blue bottle? What was Michaels motive?

[@deborahkelly1948]

Brilliant could'nt believe the jurys decision but it was the right one in the end, but I still have my doubts???

[@janiirosethorn6137]

Look at the hands of the man who took the little girl's hand. It had badly chewn nails as did the drunk's. Also he played the same peek-a-boo game he did with the foster family children. Sorry I don6 know how to put the link to those scenes.

[@EIRE55]

@@janiirosethorn6137 Yes, I noticed the chewed nails of the hidden man's hand, and the peek-a-boo game did incline me towards Dunne. Too many loopholes in the story, though.

[@jeanettecardinal790]

That was the most flimsy evidence ever to convict a man, imo he was innocent. Or am I biased because Rhys Ifans was the lovable character in the film "Notting Hill" Thank you for uploading this.

[@sheristewart3940]

I agree they convicted the wrong person! Terrible conclusion because I believe I know who did it and they showed us enough of the perpetrator of this crime to know he did it ~ remember the foster mother stated that the boy she fostered was impotent, but the person charged with murder wasn't. Terrible for this long movie to end leaving us with an unsolved murder.

[@sheristewart3940]

@SA S thanks. I edited my comment with the correction ~ autofill let me down, and I wasn't attentive.

[@cynthiaadams2392]

@@sheristewart3940 And who was the other "Michael Dunn" that Smith testified about.

[@shirleycameron7718]

Don't like the split screens...its distracting....tks anyways..

[@richardhewit215]

Didn't do 24 no harm.

[@kirsty3253]

THE key clues to discovering who the murderer was were the killer's hands, the blue sherry bottle and Dunn's solicitor.

[@trmlesq1321]

Exactly, and the hand that pulled Julie, was Dun’s. When shown closely, his hands had distinct characteristics of someone who bites their nails, and a hand that was stretched to Julie was a hand of nail biter

[@ArcherGinger]

I rewatched that scene specifically and agree the fingernails looked like those of Dunn.

[@reggiesmith3866]

Where are the opening titles? Is the beginning missing?

[@melmazing3993]

The opening credits are at the beginning of Part 1

[@pamelacorbett8774]

Too bad they didn’t question young Jason, he held the key.

[@tai9875]

The right guy was found guilty the person who wrote this episode confirms this and says everyone has ignored all the red herrings. Which is true this was brilliantly done

[@donnacrozier2003]

The meals on wheels lady, hilarious 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@gaialina4786]

why cant I watch this second part of the episode?

[@shirley8155]

Many inconsistent details that people, in this feedback, have pointed out. I get the impression that these relatively short Episodes are quickly written, thus not so thought through as to the plots and the conclusions you expect from La Plante. I suppose her novels are much better tied up. But people seem to want fast moving punches (ie less detail) in drama these days, and that implies that she writes to an allocated time slot. Can't have everything, because it all costs money. I have noticed that the older the detective series, the more episodes, so that they are slower but much more detailed. Alternatively, try reading her books.

[@mariawilson2595]

Well the family Liason officer was rubbish ! and the step father was ignored ! poor policing , !! i did enjoy thank you xx

[@brendamiller8140]

Very good show will watch next one tomorrow. Thank You. God Bless. 👍👍👍💕🤗

[@terrytibbs5678]

The copper who planted the washing line was sacked. He then moved to Walford to be overtly over-dramatic.

[@j.d.honeyheart1991]

Always enjoy your up/down loads, ABCD yea. Upon viewing this particular crime drama, ooh my, so very many conflicting (cops,witnesses, doppelgangers) statements the incompetence can not adjudicate the irresponsible debris. Committing a lifetime of an innocent (mine own 5 years, too much) to learn more than ever HOW to delete the harm.

[@ingegerdtheresesorrell338]

What? Are we meant to believe the step father killed the little girl and the mother was in it as well? Disappointing ending have no clue

[@nadinepisces724]

I was left unaware who is Michael Dunn who had been with Terry Smith whole day, never left?????? Because it assumes that this one in the court is a second one Michael Dunn, isn't it???A hole in the plot? I would say so.

[@cynthiaadams2392]

You are correct. They never established who the other person was.

[@tioh2001]

And how do we know Michael Dunn didn't tell Terry Smith where the blue sherry bottle was hidden in Anne's backyard and it was Terry Smith who stole the bottle of sherry, then killed the girl and hid the body, then went back to the park and broke the bottle and hid it?

[@janiirosethorn6137]

I thought it was a very clever addition to the plot. No one thought to check whether these people were certain of the other's identities.

[@carolinebarnes6832]

@@cynthiaadams2392 I agree, if the man accused was not Michael Dunn and never left then he couldn't have been the murderer. To throw that into the plot and never follow it through doesn't make sense. If I was on that jury I would say not guilty for that alone.

[@cynthiaadams2392]

@@carolinebarnes6832 I completely agree. It's still puzzling that no-one in court caught on to the admission that there was a 3rd man drinking with them. I'm thinking that perhaps the writers were going to revisit the storyline at some later date and clear it up.🤷

[@vlm5723]

Horrible ending.

[@nagendrathakkar4601]

what was the reason of murdering the little girl ? why was the girl left alone?

[@RuthShultz47]

oh wow ...that guy is the one from Nottingham Hill...glad you said that Jeanette. Just because I really like Trial and Retribution doesn't I have to like some of the characters in it although I really admire the acting.

[@sharonburton9663]

The little brother in my opinion

[@richardhewit215]

Time of death given as from 3-7pm. Boy was in the flat at 2pm.

[@shellshock000]

I think so too. Jealous that stepfather adored little girl and perhaps resented him more being more of a representation of ex husband lingering in the household. If he was cruelly punished by mom or stepdad, boy might take it out on sister, maybe brother was the source of Julie's old bruises....but we don't know for certain It's a love/hate thing for me with these crime shows. Brits do it best....a Canadian fan addict!

[@jamesmitchell8922]

​@@richardhewit215 The same time as the stepfather.

[@leomessi6328]

jesus christ max branning acting is so bad. those crying scenes

[@EVALLOYD]

I thought they'd convicted an innocent man. Very suspicious behaviour on the part of the little girl's stepfather and her mother. No evidence really in his flat to link him to the little girl for it wasn't her doll and the rope was planted.The old lady's witness statement was shaky at the least and as she'd seen MD on several occasions when he delivered her newspaper, she wouldn't have much trouble picking him out in a line. On what evidence exactly was he convicted? And the bottle was found that the little girl had been raped with, was MD's prints on it, nothing was said about that, which naturally would have been a better piece of evidence than anything brought up in the trial.

[@maureenmcfarlane1913]

i guess this show is about how innocent persons can be convicted..even the judge show show shock at the verdict

[@robynfarrar278]

The bottle with the child's blood and his fingerprints was only discovered whilst the jury was out "considering their verdict".....the evidence was rushed through forensics (turbo speed !) and made known to the jury...........hence the "Guilty" verdict.

[@janiirosethorn6137]

He was guilty and the fingerprints and the blood on the bottle proved it even though the jury didn't have knowledge of that. The hand of the man who took the little girl's hand had badly bitten nails as did the drunk's. The clues are in the split screen bits.

[@maureenmcfarlane1913]

Ok true..i rewatched it

[@valeriebickford3329]

Who did it in the end?

[@karenkaren5273]

I wonder that too

[@sheristewart3940]

I think it was Jason who assaulted his sister and left her for dead.

[@cynthiaadams2392]

I was thinking it was the young officer. It look to me that he was one of those people that commit a ctime and "solve" it for the accolades. Especially when she reprimanded him in regards to his overzealous reports.

[@tioh2001]

@@sheristewart3940 I can't believe a 9 year old would rape a little girl with a bottle. Jason was expressing his anger that he was no longer getting any attention from his mother (and was suffering from his stepfather's growing violence). But that doesn't make the little boy a murderer.

[@sheristewart3940]

@@tioh2001 didn't you notice, his parents didn't monitor his video watching at home nor at the neighbors where he watch adult videos not cartoons.

[@jasanders5877]

😭😭😭😭 still watching. What a disgraceful, disgusting, excuse for a mother. Oh 😳 dam, just finished. OMG 😳 the police can get thing's so dam WRONG, it's frightening 😱😱😱😱😎💯.. Yep they do that plant evidence 😢. That poor Guy, such a sad 😭 situation. It happens to so so many innocent people.😳🥵🍋🙏

[@rerereiiirrrthaaaa]

so many questions still here! so is Dunn innocent or guilty? Nobody knows

[@jamesmitchell8922]

Likely guilty.

[@sagrammyfour]

So that's it for Michael Dunn?

[@rogerwaihaperoger.1157]

Great movie..Worth the watch..

[@deborahpringle5526]

He was guilty...I wasn’t so sure I thought honestly it was the brother and that they convicted the wrong person. But I read an interview with Lynda La Plante (the writer and creator) and she said it definitely was the Welshman!

[@carmeloreilly5908]

But there were two Welshmen - could it have been the witness, the Terry character? I don't think it was Michael Dunn

[@Revelation18-4]

​@@carmeloreilly5908It very well could have been Terry Smith. He originally said they were together all the way through and never parted. When questioned on the stand he conveniently changed his story. 🤔

[@MrPhilipzhao]

So whodunnit ???

[@jeanettesdaughter]

He did it. Judge too lenient. Minimum sentence! Sod all. Life without possibility of parole. Law is imperfect, police work - Meh, and lawyers as dotty as the blonde counsel for the crown. clouds of witness for sure but for certain the five year old did not rape herself with a bottle, strangle herself with a rope and stuff herself head down into a sewage pipe! Disliking the abusive stepfather and the weak mother, and the apathetic delinquent big brother are not reasons to acquit a child molester. Heaven forbid you who think that should ever serve in a jury anywhere. Dunn did it. The puzzle analogy was good. Things don’t always line up neatly. Intelligence completes the picture. But this is fiction remember. Worse happens in fact. Muddled heads allow perpetrators like Dunn to hide in plain sight and walk out of courtrooms smiling. Nasty housing projects. No way to live. No place to raise children. A high rise is a crime scene waiting to happen. LaPlante is always about more than meets the eye. Good one. Don’t mind the split screen. Shows how things work and don’t work together for the good. There’s always something going on elsewhere that may be relevant in cases and in life. Now back to Vera!

[@toosiyabrandt8676]

HI Having been drunk that day of July's disappearance, might have obliterated his memory of anything he did after playing the hide and seek game with her, which the old lady saw her do with him from her window. The daughter of his foster mother also said he played that hide and seek game. That was the identifyer. His drunken ranting of Queen song shows how gone he was on alcohol. The way he presented as a sober person was very Jekyl and Hyde. Shalom to us only in Christ Yeshua.

[@sharonburton9663]

Go bk and watch the first part. She saw the girl aging but did not see who was playing w her only his arm could be seen from behind the wall.she said "as if she was playing" not actually seeing her play

[@sharonburton9663]

Go bk and watch the first part. She saw the girl aging but did not see who was playing w her only his arm could be seen from behind the wall.she said "as if she was playing" not actually seeing her play

[@tai9875]

@@sharonburton9663 the writer confirmed the right guy was found guilty

[@stephenpowell5912]

Another Great Series by Written by Lynda la Plante ,Great sterling Performances from David Hayman ,Kate Buffery ,Victoria Smurfit and Rhys Ifans as Michael Dunn who also in the same Year 1997 was cast in Black Comedy Twin Town with brother Llyr Ifans as Tearaway brothers causing Mayhem in a Welsh Town ,But was perfectly picked for his role in Another great Whodunnit series up there with Prime Suspect starring Helen Mirren to The Commander Starring Amanda Burton .Just Gripping Whodunnit Television 📺

[@holleyb7861]

Horrible mother to let her boyfriend be that way. If you can't keep an eye on your kids, stop having them!

[@chickenspadge]

19:43 - Anne Robinson officiating there.

[@Schelby.Lo1]

Only want to know: Did they get the real murderer? I mean, in general they do in a movie. Did they do here, too? Edit: Well, after watching, I'm not happy with the ending. With all the discrepancies, the many unanswered hints and, above all, the manipulation of the policeman in regard of the clothesline, this case would not have been heard in a real court. The burden of proof was far too thin. However, I also cannot understand why the defendant himself did not try much harder to convince the jury and the judge that he did not commit the murder.

[@jeanettesdaughter]

Walker may not be likable but he gets the job he was hired to do done. He doesn’t try to ram a man once evidence is found or intuited that says ‘ strong but wrong suspect.’ He has a kind of rough and tough honor about him. Basic decency, nothing fancy, no A levels - doesn’t publish poetry like Inspector Dalgliesh ( Dame PD James creation) - but he reads it and can recite. Surprise!

[@almiacampbell5139]

her son gets ignored most of the time...his clothes are dirty 🙄 that's explain some of his anger hitting the baby.. smashing the framed picture with his sisters photo🤔

[@CharmaineNel-t4n]

😮😮😮😮 He was unstable from the beginning

[@almiacampbell5139]

🤔🧐 what is going on with this cop😒

[@467-k1m]

Is this a true story?

[@jamesmitchell8922]

No just fiction

[@almiacampbell5139]

I haven't seen this before... please don't give the ending

[@lorispain1]

That was excellent, but I suspected Jason, her brother. He was clearly jealous of her.

[@kamhs7770]

Don’t read the comments unless you want to know the ending.

[@Marie0575]

Michael Dunn is innocent imo, how the hell. The step father clearly did it. The police planted evidence😤

[@AnthonyTolhurst-dw1nc]

Frankly, Michael should have been assessed by a psychiatrist before this got out of hand.

[@greenbrain8725]

Well that was weird. I thought it was the evil stepdad! I surmised he sold the little girl for SA and he didn’t mean for her to be murdered. Hence him being edgy and racked with guilt. Naaah. The stepdad diddit by proxy. 🙄

[@kathysaladeen7862]

The murderer had blonde hair on his hand

[@jamesmitchell8922]

Likely to be the boy but it was Dunn who disposed her body in the pipe.

[@marie-josebeaudoin5347]

Fine and dandy. Where is Helen Miren? Split screen is a distraction...

[@helloshiny8475]

Yeah very good series. I will watch them all. I dont t mind not knowing till the end, but I hate when you dont get the answer. So yeh sloppy writing to not wrap it up better.

[@sheristewart3940]

I know this is horrendous, but I think the boy did it ~ he stomped on his sister's picture and hit his baby stepbrother ~ he had serious violent tendencies for a 9-year of age child.

[@kaysmith4594]

I think the boy was just angry at being ignored and told to go to his room every time he opened his mouth. And that possibly being sent away, his life will follow the footsteps of the convicted man - going into care, getting abused, moving frm place to place, ending up a society drop out...and who knows where that will lead. Its almost as if they were showing how the monster is made.

[@glendajohnson6824]

Incredible!!! So what is innocence really?!

[@kaymarich831]

I would have found him not guilty based on the evidence shown in court. If the blue bottle was found and used as evidence in court, I would have found him guilty

[@jamesmitchell8922]

It would still make no difference

[@johnsmith-rs2vk]

Great stuff .not bad for the nineties

[@anastaciamartinez595]

The ending seems clear

[@beatricerice289]

It was the live in boyfriend. The brother could not get the body from the sewer to the dump.

[@ranjanivaradpande2821]

Why the lawyers , judges,still wear wigs ??

[@fionabryant7923]

Or it couldve been the young distressed copper

[@user-iz6cc6lz3j-Vickie]

The brother Jason did it

[@Emma-yu9wb]

For an American viewer, especially, it is a little hard to watch. I won't divulge more.

[@aleshiatisha4897]

Interesting series, but don't know why they are dragging it out. 😒 can't go any further sorry

[@ziziroberts8041]

Boo Radley

[@pygiana16]

This was a terrible story. The Scottish superintendent got it wrong from the start. What a useless detective. Why watch another episode with him in it?

[@shirley8155]

The superintendent is an ACTOR. If you don't like the character, it is Lynda La Plante you need to blame.

[@kevinbernard9791]

For most of the time I thought definitely the copper but now I'm certain it was JASON (her brother) and can't believe an innocent dead beat was convicted..Jason definitely killed his sister?

[@ilaria298]

Uhm did you even watch it Micheal did it they had the blue bottle at the end with his finger prints and her dna…. Pretty conclusive evidence there plus Lynda la plante said in an interview years ago that, it was Micheal

[@AcidRayne100]

The writer, Lynda La Plante, has said that there are giveaways on who the killer was. The clock in the older lady's flat showed the stepdad was definitely at home when Julie was abducted, the blue bottle being found with Michael's fingerprints and Julie's blood on it, and the close up of the killer's hand pointed to Michael Dunn indeed being the killer. As for an appeal (which in real life he would most definitely be granted under those circumstances) La Plante said if she were to write a sequel that the blue bottle evidence would be used, and Michael would have changed his plea to guilty during the proceedings. However there was probably no appetite for an audience to sit through the same story again, so she never went about writing a sequel

[@rodolfocoronil8075]

Rubbish show..Bad acting..and too much smoking...

[@scottgeorge4268]

@@elegant6066 Sign of a very serious smoker, unlikely to be seen in TV shows today.

[@camillatwilley4205]

Yeah Im trying to convince myself that this series is as good as everyone elses says....hmm. Weird acting, weird plot, overdramatic ... So 80s like((

[@camillatwilley4205]

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[@theseustoo]

The verdict was a 'miscarriage of justice' imho... I think it's pretty obvious that the real culprit was the step-father... though it's also true that the jury didn't have access to all the information that the audience of this drama did. The fate of the child's REAL doll is a very telling factor...

[@jamesmitchell8922]

Another thing that bugs me is this, was this a joint enterprise with both the stepfather and Dunn?

[@sihammer7942]

Obviously 'artistic license' was enjoyed + used liberally, I'm sure there were many more inaccuracies than the number that I noticed. Whether it was intended, the storyline showed how a jury trial is impossible to predict + in my opinion are too often getting it wrong. Particularly cases where guilty verdicts are handed down when there would appear to be so much doubt that anything other than an acquittal is the wrong outcome. That is, as I said, only my opinion but you should think of that in the same way that you do anything that you know to be true, in other words just think of my opinion as fact, unless I tell you otherwise...... I expect some of you might be uncomfortable with that, I accept that on the face of it, mindlessly taking in what some idiot you came across online says is so, screams out 'bad move!'. Don't listen, it's only the part of the brain that deals with good sense, sound judgement, logical deduction, + rational rationale........ I forget what it's called?...?...?.... ignore it, anyway, stick with the plan, you'd be a fool not to..............