Playing the triangle is not as easy as it seems! Just ask these hapless percussionists who Leonard Berstein tries to educate in this rehearsal of Berlioz's Roméo et Juliette. Originally published at andres.soto.composer
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@lukeshaffer93166 жыл бұрын
The Greatest Music Educator of All Time: "I don't know how to do it. But do it." This is the life of a percussionist.
@lollycopter5 жыл бұрын
One time I was too quiet on the chimes and the principal trombone turned around and said "just make noise".
@lambchopwebb48114 жыл бұрын
us percussionist have it hard
@SamTahbou3 жыл бұрын
@@lollycopter who would know better about noise? lol
@wlrlel3 жыл бұрын
He is not the greatest...
@michaeloneill13003 жыл бұрын
BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! I do this on occasion. Not to percussion. To sopranos.
@alexapatricia7 жыл бұрын
"I don't know how to tell you to do it but DO IT!" I think every band director has said this at least once before.
@acacia-bloom6 жыл бұрын
*band* director............?? - a band is a band as an orchestra is an orchestra
@user-tk3mh3zl1r6 жыл бұрын
They are practically the same thing as conductors, only that band director leads a band (not a rock band or such but a ensemble consisting of mostly wind instruments) instead of orchestra.
@cellogirl11rw556 жыл бұрын
Alexa Patricia In my humble opinion, the best conductors are the ones that don't try to tell you how to play your instrument, but, instead, tell you what they are hearing, what they want to hear, and coach you until you get it just right.
@simonjech38623 жыл бұрын
Band director 🤦🏻♂️
@DennisJohnsonDrummer3 жыл бұрын
Seasoned band directors have learned how to play all of the instruments and inherently know what to tell students to do specifically in order to "fix" an issue. Whether it be a special fingering, a breathing technique or whatever. Percussion is a special animal for sure, but with today's access to every technique known to man on You Tube, there are no excuses for not knowing what to say to help your students. I certainly don't know everything but I can find out or find someone who does. Just a thought.
@zebra3stripes7 жыл бұрын
If you play the two together, you get a rhombus.
@djfull44426 жыл бұрын
ahahahahah XD
@JonatasMonte6 жыл бұрын
A math joke wow
@allanbahati19426 жыл бұрын
zebra3stripes hahahah win!
@elliotshiwota23226 жыл бұрын
lol
@GVZGQosqoruna6 жыл бұрын
XD
@Charliemmag3 жыл бұрын
But DumbMojo says it's easy....
@dean31343 жыл бұрын
@@jdgshsjchdjejkd545 wow you clearly haven't watch the whole video before commenting
@anniellusion3 жыл бұрын
@@jdgshsjchdjejkd545 Dam which orchestra are you a part of?
@MemeScope3 жыл бұрын
TWO SET VIOLIN
@69mviewsnt3 жыл бұрын
@@jdgshsjchdjejkd545 you're dumb then
@69mviewsnt3 жыл бұрын
@@jdgshsjchdjejkd545 go hear "can can" and be amazed of the triangle (while having stroke) playing. maybe you won't be as naive as rn
@u.v.s.55833 жыл бұрын
- It is taggadaggggadummmmm, not klink klink. - Klink. - Worse. Congratulations.
@saoirsestark39033 жыл бұрын
haha yes but I guess it's taggadadumm
@JustAVagueIllusion2 жыл бұрын
@@saoirsestark3903 I think its more like tiggaddadum
@JessicaPilotGirl7 жыл бұрын
Some say they're still there trying to do it right.
@LaplacianDalembertian4 күн бұрын
StevieT is there
@johnrobinsoniii40287 жыл бұрын
It proves that one must NOT UNDERESTIMATE the little Triangle! It is a real percussion Instrument that deserves enormous attention. Playing rhythms with precision and clarity is very difficult indeed.
@johnrobinsoniii40287 жыл бұрын
"In English with German subtitles"
@pibroch7 жыл бұрын
You exaggerate - it's not that difficult with a little practice.
@brichpmr6 жыл бұрын
That is incorrect...it takes musicianship and control and practice to play any percussion instrument well.
@neilgrover59396 жыл бұрын
Tell it JR.
@PaladinUltra6 жыл бұрын
Noah Of course, percussion is the the easiest instrument group to start playing off the bat. But people don't realize that it takes years of training just like any other instrument to master. The triangle is definitely one of the most overlooked auxillary instruments - everything from beater to angle to strikeing position to force of stroke (and of course the instrument itself) affect the tone produced. It takes an incredibly trained ear to to pick the perfect timbre that actually mathces with the rest of the orchestra. Of course you could give a triangle part to a novice and they would be able to play it with at least some competence in a few hours, but it takes years for professionals to develop the "perfect" triangle sound. Not to mention that it can be extremely nerve racking when you play an instrument that is often exposed in extremely delicate areas, and that you alone will make or break the entire mood of that section. Sorry, just a long rant by an extremely passionate percussionist haha.
@billywhite14037 жыл бұрын
He's right. They're not playing quite together and it blurs the sound.
@westernshipway31157 жыл бұрын
If they are not playing together blame the conductor!!
@BadWebDiver6 жыл бұрын
It would be practically impossible for two triangles to be played precisely together in reality. This isn't computer midi playing. Triangles in reality don't have that fine a control for them, especially two different percunssionists, including a first-timer to the orchestra.
@guynungagap46176 жыл бұрын
to do a clear tagadagam, you need a single triangle .....
@HiVizCamo6 жыл бұрын
Can you imagine the sound 15 of them going like that would sound like, nightmare!
@Nater3896 жыл бұрын
Thank you. Someone else who understands. What Leonard was asking for here was a bit unrealistic.
@isaiahbaggett50147 жыл бұрын
Sounded like someone dropped some forks on the floor at first :P
@gregson997 жыл бұрын
maybe the triangles were out of tune at 432hz
@SuperMaDBrothers6 жыл бұрын
I don’t get it
@vitellonealvapore8776 жыл бұрын
but they were in tune with the *U N I V E R S E*
@georgepantzikis79886 жыл бұрын
#A is 415
@kaoru19985 жыл бұрын
@@georgepantzikis7988 - in the Baroque period, yes, lol.
@agusdwiyantoofficial3 жыл бұрын
Not mayba its exactly
@iangreer45853 жыл бұрын
Lenny: Basically considered a superhuman in music, having created incredible performances through his conducting and performing himself, as well as composing incredible scores and pieces, and creating a new generation of music lovers. Also Lenny:
@BenjaminStaern7 жыл бұрын
"Could you make it somehow more rhythmic so it is not just a clink?" :D :D
@HendogYT4 жыл бұрын
“It sounds like a doorbell!”
@stevecarter88103 жыл бұрын
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@adamsyed55353 жыл бұрын
Ouch. Reminds me of Mozart saying to Salieri "funny little tune but it yielded some good things."
I can only imagine how frustrating it must be for both. The conductor knowing exactly how he wants it to sound, yet not knowing how to explain it to the musician. On the other hand, the musician not knowing or understanding the dynamic. Those are the kind of things that cannot be written, it's up to the conductor and musician to decipher what the composer wanted it to sound like.
@lifenote19433 жыл бұрын
I don't know chief, DAGADADUM SOUNDS PRETTY EXPLICIT TO ME.
@jonkflurgen69753 жыл бұрын
I think this is just a result of a triangle being a triangle. Bernstein seemed to want a sound that was much more dry than this triangle was capable of.
@lifenote19433 жыл бұрын
@@jonkflurgen6975 I think this is just a result of a triangle player being a triangle player. Completely dog shit.
@jonkflurgen69753 жыл бұрын
@@lifenote1943 what triangle player in your life hurt you man
@lifenote19433 жыл бұрын
@@jonkflurgen6975 It is what it is dude, I'm just tired of these people getting more credit than they deserve, which is none.
@videos4mydad7 жыл бұрын
"Not quite my tempo"
@gentil88387 жыл бұрын
rusher
@andresgomez82927 жыл бұрын
SO YOU FUCKING KNOW THE DIFFERENCE!!?
@bult157 жыл бұрын
Elías Baez Tabe g
@Dimivim5 жыл бұрын
Everytime I search for your comment!!
@darshjoshi16413 жыл бұрын
I was looking for this
@JonatasAdoM6 жыл бұрын
it literally sounded like a door bell!
@augustjschroeder2 жыл бұрын
"I don't know how to tell you to do it, but do it." Excellent quote.
@dorotheaharonisz297610 ай бұрын
„I don’t know how to tell you to do it, but do it!” - the favorite sentence of every musician!😂
@steealconwyrick19995 жыл бұрын
I'm watching this on what would've been Bernstein's 100th birthday, and this is still one of the most enlightening triangle videos I've ever seen.
@steealconwyrick19993 жыл бұрын
@ageingdrummerboy That was years ago... and I haven’t seen many since, honestly. Still, the instructions there are more detailed and specific than those of any conductor I’ve ever played for, least of all my own.
@lawrencequave73619 ай бұрын
The thing that should be MUCH apparent from this video is that, while we watch an orchestra in a performance where the conductor is (apparently) doing little more than 'keeping time', a conductor's greatest and most important work comes during REHEARSALS. BRAVO to the unseen, unsung hero!
@scottvelardo7003 жыл бұрын
1. It’s ridiculous writing. The rhythm Bernstein is asking for - four quick, loud notes with the first accented and the rest articulate - is physically impossible for a triangle to do. In order to make any passage of quick successive notes sound articulate, the player has to crescendo the strokes, so the sustain of one stroke doesn’t drown out the attack of the next. One could increase clarity by muting or half-muting the triangle for the first three notes, but that would reduce the volume. 2. This rhythm is difficult to articulate on one triangle. Adding players increases the difficulty exponentially; two players is more than twice as hard. 3. Attempting to discern a tempo, and then subdivide it into a triplet rhythm, from just a single ictus is like looking through a fishbowl to aim a dart at a target at the extreme limit of your throwing distance. A countoff to establish a tempo would have made a world of difference in getting the two players aligned, even though the instruments would still fail (see point #1). 4. There are better ways of mounting the triangles that might have made it easier to get a clear articulation, and to mount them up higher so the sound wouldn’t be muffled by the bodies in front of them. It’s likely those options weren’t available to these two poor chaps, and the problem in point #1 would still apply. 5. If one or both of them are new to percussion, the ability to control the beaters well enough to articulate that rhythm even on a snare drum, let alone a triangle, is a couple years in their future, if they practice their technique properly. The touch and small-motor control to do what that passage requires is pretty remarkable, if not impossible. 6. While I can’t really blame the Orchestra for laughing at Bernstein, the fact is that few if any of the musicians there could have done better.
@dapperdapper88982 жыл бұрын
Maybe they should've taken a drum stick and beaten the notes out of the triangle
@mellowords2 жыл бұрын
"It sounds like a doorbell" whole orchestra laughs This is exactly the vibe of playing percussion in high school. Everyone thinks aux perc instruments are kinda a joke, like "I could do that". And they probably could LOL, but that percussionist isn't there because he plays triangle, it's cuz hes a master of snare, timpani, dozens of aux instruments, and probably mallets too.
@GeometricMason Жыл бұрын
It's so awesome that this was captured on video.
@morgantaylor5144 жыл бұрын
TwoSet! Thanks for bringing this gem of laughter to my knowledge :)
@DeeboComing3 жыл бұрын
How to fix: Smaller triangle with bigger beaters. Smaller triangle will give a higher pitch, bigger beaters will produce more attack. The combination will be more piercing and articulate. Problem solved.
@juancaviolin39783 жыл бұрын
Interesting. Thanks!
@michaelsieger64592 жыл бұрын
Hm I don't think this would work, as the problem was, that he wanted to hear four distinct notes, wich would be harder with bigger beaters...
@alyssaburns72497 жыл бұрын
I hold my breath ever time I watch this video.
@krystinasaragos15356 жыл бұрын
I remember when I was in kindergarden nobody liked me not even the teacher and she gave me the triangle to play while everybody else got the "advanced" instruments. She gave me the "easiest" instument. 😂😂😂
@ericmoorev9563 жыл бұрын
How are you doing today my name is Eric
@mith38793 жыл бұрын
@@ericmoorev956 good
@ericmoorev9563 жыл бұрын
@@mith3879 so where are you from
@lifenote19433 жыл бұрын
it is the easiest instrument you a p e
@sebastianvera63433 жыл бұрын
@@lifenote1943 wtf
@diogo0b3 жыл бұрын
Triangle is a very popular instrument in Brazilian northeast music, specially Baião and its variantes; there are thousands of unknown triangle virtuosos everywhere in the country. You'll should definitely check it out :)
@Mr850man Жыл бұрын
Sorry to break it to you, but mr Bernstein is taking a dirt nap
@JacquelineLanceTenor9 ай бұрын
@@Mr850manI don't think the person that wrote the original comment thought they were speaking directly to Bernstein. Pretty sure they were speaking in general to other viewers lol 😂
@thatguyineverycommentssection6 ай бұрын
This is my favorite scene from Maestro
@xxczerxx3 жыл бұрын
"I don't know how to do it, but do it", that illuminated something I've never considered before -- conductors/composers don't know how to play (at least some of) the instruments they're directing.
@wtfn5732 жыл бұрын
No shit
@xINVISIGOTHx2 жыл бұрын
I wish I had a triangle right now so I could do it right
@writeract26 жыл бұрын
Love this man, love Maestro Bernstein & miss his like tremendously - he was a complete gentleman.
@sarahjones52173 жыл бұрын
complete gentleman..........?
@oe1freak6 ай бұрын
In this case he was an a....., sorry.... Genius, but anyway only human.
@HarmonieWevelgem6 жыл бұрын
Obiously this needs more cowbell. Cowbells are far superior to these puny triangles :P
@drmorqWarrenProject7 жыл бұрын
I was in the second grade... @Blessed Sacrament elementary school in Wichita, Kansas... and joined the school orchestra. I started with the snare drum but our first recital, all I played was the triangle... And at the end, the conductor called me out specifically for making sure the others kept time... He thanked me and the 'audience' applauded... I wish Lenny was my teacher.
@balinsbane90607 жыл бұрын
drmorq Eyyy Wichita, KS
@drmorqWarrenProject7 жыл бұрын
You visited there?
@balinsbane90607 жыл бұрын
Live here lol
@drmorqWarrenProject7 жыл бұрын
I feel for you then. I lived there 31 years. Now I have lived here in Everett Washington for 29 years. I do get wistful for a few days of my youth in Wichita and my son and his family live there now. I need to visit but I have 2 arrests for weed back there on my record... they would LOVE to make an example of me and lock me up for a while... so the choice is not easy. And the cost is high no matter what... #WarrenProject
@thatonekansasguy7 жыл бұрын
ayo currently a senior at Wichita East High School! Also an SCKMEA All State Trombonist. Love and hate this city.
@rite2bcreative3 жыл бұрын
Oh my god, this takes me back to full orchestra practice! I had a conductor that wasn't as versed in string instruments and would always give instruction on how he wanted the bowing or vibrato to sound but no advice on how to achieve it, like "try starting the vibrato before touching the bow to the string so the note resonates from the beginning" 😂😂😂
@victotronics3 жыл бұрын
Ninety percent of vibrato is half mental.
@solstice8712 жыл бұрын
But.. that’s actually a valid suggestion.Starting your vibrato before you touch the string lets you warm up your sound immediately.
@rite2bcreative2 жыл бұрын
@@solstice871 it doesn't work like that though, it makes the note sound shakey
@solstice8712 жыл бұрын
@@rite2bcreative Not necessarily always. I can tell you that this suggestion of starting the vibrato before you start the note is something I’ve heard plenty of times from conductors over years of orchestral experience.
@rite2bcreative2 жыл бұрын
@@solstice871 I would love to see a video with an example of this. Not continuous vibrato, where the bow stays on the string and the vibrato continues during bow changes or different notes, but of someone starting vibrato before the bow touches the string
@winrx7 жыл бұрын
Imagine having to live down that last comment from one of the greatest conductors of our time........ 🙄😏
@mikeschouten47326 жыл бұрын
The best education I got in high school and college was from my hard-ass high school band director. He was tougher on us than Bernstein was to these professionals, and his firm expectations have served me well through many decades since.
@sasha421963 жыл бұрын
"How long have you been playing triangle?" "About 20 minutes." "How does the conductor teach triangle player?" "Sine language." "How do two triangle players move in together?" "Cosine." Triangle to timpani: "You're pointless." Timpani to triangle: "You're obtuse."
@atroxmaximvs77653 жыл бұрын
This video gave me 3 years of life
@DaveYostCom6 жыл бұрын
Clearly he wanted a big accent on the first beat and another accent on the last beat, which is exactly right, and of course he also wanted perfect ensemble so the articulation is distinct. The closest was the 2nd try, but it wasn't loud enough, and it wasn't really together. I bet they ended up hanging each triangle from two supports, so they're not a moving target.
@sullyflynn87466 жыл бұрын
Yessss but he didn't know how to articulate that to them. DI-gadi-DUM
@MrWizardjr93 жыл бұрын
i thought he wanted more emphasis on the last note. yeah impossible to really tell what he wants. he should have tapped it out or something
@dwightfontenot90646 жыл бұрын
Best advice for percussionists when a conductor starts speaking in ambiguously descriptive language....grab a different implement.
@DolphinPain6 жыл бұрын
Dwight Fontenot I've heard stories of a conductor asking a timpanist to use a different mallet, and the timpanists pretends to switch mallets. He instead just changes his touch and the composer would reply: " Yeah, those sound much better."
@dwightfontenot90646 жыл бұрын
LOL!
@ZachEverett6 жыл бұрын
I have a similar story. A conductor asked me to play a bass drum part quieter. The first time I played my absolute best piano dynamic. He said it was still too loud. The next rep I didn't play at all, just aired the part, pretending to hit the drum, total silence. When asked if it was quiet enough, he said it could still be a little softer.
@newmanhiding23143 жыл бұрын
@@DolphinPain Yep. Technique does a ton.
@flashgamer12753 жыл бұрын
@@DolphinPain ive done this before LOL
@kmitchell98912 жыл бұрын
"I need you to play the triangle so it sounds like a drum." "You guys playing the drums need to figure out how to make triangle noises. Alright. And a one-y, and a two-y...."
@DarcieGlam3 жыл бұрын
That was hilarious. Hit it in the spot that doesn't sound like just a clink or a doorbell. Okay, got it :-)
@bnt75263 жыл бұрын
Henry Ford doesn't know how machines work but he got his reluctant engineers to develop a V8. Classic example of, "I don't know how you'd do it but DO it."
@markhughes79273 жыл бұрын
He is not alone in his triangle difficulties - they always miss the triangle note in die Meistersinger overture these days - one of the greatest scorings of a single note in musical history! (Gross dereliction of duty!)
@lestudio762 жыл бұрын
I applaud perfection
@niamhoconnor89869 ай бұрын
Everyone: Well, I can play the triangle! Leonard Bernstein: No you cannot. DAGGADADAM!
@johannesschimpfol58904 жыл бұрын
Nice to see that even serious musicians have humor at work and know how to prank the new members of the orchestra.
@jackcallahan18482 жыл бұрын
But it not prank?
@bt10ant5 жыл бұрын
I would have been so nervous at his direction in front of the whole orchestra, I would have flubbed it good.
@elsamiao97643 жыл бұрын
two set in DA house
@philiplee17698 ай бұрын
I have a new found appreciation for the triangle
@AlexanderStoyMusic Жыл бұрын
Spitze !!!!
@Brillemeister2 жыл бұрын
Nobody said a fun boss had to be easy to work for. RIP Leonard. God bless
@Mr850man Жыл бұрын
He is dead? I didn't even know he was sick!
@evaschmid19192 жыл бұрын
Loooove that❤️😃
@sabinewindholz23489 ай бұрын
He wanted to hear PERFECT music 👍💐
@TiqueO63 жыл бұрын
I have a big orchestral triangle passed down to me by my father the late Milt Holland, it makes a huge difference where you hit on the triangle - inner, outer, under, over, etc. - and there are many possible places but once you get familiar with your instrument you can probably find the spot to make it more percussive. You have to try different beaters and parts of the beater as well of course but three minutes with LB might not be enough for those kids
@anitaalyabiev3 жыл бұрын
Someday, just someday these people will be going places
@MrWizardjr93 жыл бұрын
if they made it into Bernstein's orchestra they probably already went places
@HushtheMag6 жыл бұрын
sounds like someone dropping a fork.
@kimberlywentworth9160 Жыл бұрын
I agree with Bernstein. He is trying to get them to make it sound like music and not like a door bell or some funky sound.
@sebastian94453 жыл бұрын
1:05 he was angry!!!
@chiaracorrado81723 жыл бұрын
Ahahahah
@hoangkimviet85454 жыл бұрын
I come here from Two Set Violin.
@philswaim3922 жыл бұрын
I love how they played differently each time trying to search for his sound and he ended up hating them all hahaha.
@mga28993 жыл бұрын
Bernstein had likely lost his ability to pick up that frequency a decade earlier.
@Ostsol3 жыл бұрын
At least he's good-humoured about it! 😄
@NutsBerserk3 жыл бұрын
This will be in everyone's recommended now that twosetviolin made a video about triangle
@ClockWerkOrange9 ай бұрын
Know your instrument. It’s the quality of the tool and your experience
@DennisJohnsonDrummer3 жыл бұрын
"I don't know how to tell you to do it-just DO IT". Classic! I don't now how to tell you to fix my car-just do it.
@davidjoseph34034 ай бұрын
You realizing what I can't express is like meeting the requirement to be in dialogue. Stupid funny. ❤
@brianbernstein38263 жыл бұрын
FUN FACT: Beethoven's original instrument was the triangle. He was considered the greatest triangle virtuoso in all of Europe
@franzliszt94003 жыл бұрын
For real?
@chienle14923 жыл бұрын
what the heck virtuoso in triangle even means?
@herethererainbows3 жыл бұрын
Two step brought me back here the easiest instrument to play
@enriqueernesto7386 жыл бұрын
This cracked me up
@markwerlein47333 жыл бұрын
Just hang a small piece of cloth to mute the triangle just a little. More cloth, more muteing which allows the strokes to be more distinct. Maestro was struggling with the fact that the ringing gets in the way of discerning the rhythm.
@jpritch26 жыл бұрын
just use one triangle and heavier beaters. I assume he wanted more volume so suggested 2 triangles. ... or is the part really written for (different sized!?) triangles?
@annatabner84593 жыл бұрын
INtresTing
@ericmoorev9563 жыл бұрын
How are you doing today my name is Eric
@qalaphyll3 жыл бұрын
*" i dunno how to tell you to do it but DO IT"*
@mencken83 жыл бұрын
They’ve never made another one like him.
@trevscribbles3 жыл бұрын
Seems like he'd have actually been better off with just the one triangle considering he was looking for clarity.
@stephenwu15242 жыл бұрын
...but...volume?
@magicmulder3 жыл бұрын
Three days later: Bernstein: “OK we finally got it. Who’s up next? You? What instrument do you play?” Player: “Theremin.” Bernstein: “Somebody please shoot me.”
@tomekp953 жыл бұрын
How is it expected from them to play synced? Do his cues set the tempo? The cue is "one" alone. Can anyone explain?
@mtndewman10227 жыл бұрын
maybe mute it a bit (like with light pressure of a finger touch) so they don't ring as much and are more staccato like he wanted?
@7HPDH3 жыл бұрын
It’s too late 😅
@SpaghettiToaster6 жыл бұрын
What if you just used two sticks and played the triangle from the outside for those precise rhythms?
@masseyrati33963 жыл бұрын
Thankfully, instead of choosing the triangle, you can go for a simpler instument, called the duangle, which is 33% easier as it only has two angles.
@zacharyregin97263 жыл бұрын
THIS is why percussionists get payed
@aarondaguio71794 ай бұрын
1:08 Best advice ever
@LeslieDugger8 ай бұрын
Lightly Placing a finger on the top part will give the staccato he is looking for
@cobb_thedrummer6 ай бұрын
The equivalent to “Not My Tempo” from Whiplash
@leestamm31872 жыл бұрын
I'm greatly surprised that a conductor of Bernstein's vast experience would not know how a triangle should be suspended and struck to achieve the sound and articulation he wanted.
@nonenoneonenonenone7 ай бұрын
Maybe he was pretending. But few conductors know how instruments are played unless it is their instrument.
@leestamm31877 ай бұрын
@@nonenoneonenonenone It's more likely that he was inebriated.
@oe1freak6 ай бұрын
absolutely possible...@@leestamm3187
@epocketlsaml3 жыл бұрын
I laughed so hard when a friend told me he played triangle in high school. I have much more respect for him right now after knowing that playing that little tiny instrument is actually hard af.
@ems76232 жыл бұрын
Percussionists don't just play one instrument. There are around 120 instruments that a professional percussionist is likely to need to master, particularly if they play classical, Broadway and work with film studios on scores and foley. The instruments cut be grouped together in, roughly, 9 groups which each rely on similar playing skills. You need remarkable eye+hand coordination and excellent focusing skills. Yes, some take far more time and effort to master than others. Triangle isn't anywhere near the hardest, but it also isn't quite as easy as some people imagine. The thing moves as you play it. You have to know how to strike it to produce one sound or another. It doesn't easily accommodate rapid playing. It has a limited range of volume to work within. As for playing triangle in high school ... Well, it's likely that your friend wasnt very good if the music teacher never moved him from triangle to other percussion instruments. Music teachers will move good percussion players between instruments from time to time if they show skills. That's the honest truth. Sorry.
@epocketlsaml2 жыл бұрын
@@ems7623 relax
@Sofronichrist4 жыл бұрын
Tagadadam !
@Blueaspen3913 жыл бұрын
if you realize that one of the musicians can't do the job, please, don't make that musician feel terrible in front of the whole orchestra, and don't make fun of them saying "congratulations" when you made it so clear for everyone that they had failed. You can fix the problem after the rehearsal. Making them feel embarrassed in front of everyone is not going to make the triangle sound better soon. And it breaks confidence. The other musicians will think "this could happen to me next time".
@fredrupert92373 жыл бұрын
You have a point, but that's the life of an orchestral musician. The conductor doesn't have time to coach everyone offline. You need a thick skin to be an orchestral musician. The conductor can be working with a section that isn't "getting it" and it's obvious to the rest of the orchestra they aren't.
@Blueaspen3913 жыл бұрын
@@fredrupert9237 I'm not saying that the conductor can fix the problem in another (better) way. But what we see in the video (the conductor's attitude) doesn't fix the problem either, at all.
@fatdoi0033 жыл бұрын
even in the dark empty hall in the middle of the night... some heard there's triangle ringing and some thumping "di-ga-da-dum"
@paladinlv12 жыл бұрын
The triangleists should have yelled "diggy-di-dum" in a rhythmic fashion with a lot of passion as they played. Maybe it would have passed the Bernstein sniff test.
@finosuilleabhain77816 ай бұрын
A lateral solution would have been to do it by flicking the fingers from the thumb - it would have worked, but probably meant banishment from the Union of Trianglists.
@bedrichsmetana47776 жыл бұрын
W O A H
@jamesha17510 ай бұрын
"it goes like this damnit = dug e duh dunt!"
@johnoneill55333 жыл бұрын
Gigantic triangles. those are for calling the family to dinner.
@Surfingpichu2 жыл бұрын
"Ach, it's worse." The plight of every director
@alger30417 жыл бұрын
Wouldn't this rhythm also appear in Liszt's First Piano Concerto?
@Mezzotenor7 жыл бұрын
I think the triangle part there is predominantly da-DING, da-DING.... that is, short-long, short-long.
@moimeme6533 Жыл бұрын
"Sounds like a doorbell" It actually did xD ...Then again you could create a doorbell that goes "tiggidaddum"! 🎼🎶
@HowardTse3 жыл бұрын
If you can triangle it slowly, you can triangle it quickly.
@derekflanderschang96543 жыл бұрын
THERE'S MY TWOSET COMMENTER
@jovanj27173 жыл бұрын
Could the percussionists have split the rhythm between them so they have time to choke the triangle? Played like 1, 2, 1, 2
@petrus79773 жыл бұрын
Maybe the maestro wanted the first 3 sounds on muted and the last open I think