"A life without lord bobby is unimaginable" - every bollywood lover
@sauron20000002 жыл бұрын
Lord Booby should have made out with Suman Ranganathan in the movie. Would have made sense.
@nishiedatta77952 жыл бұрын
I love Bobby regardless.
@anonymousqwerty1002 жыл бұрын
Bobbywood, the twitter account is hilarious
@vishrut.kakadiya2 жыл бұрын
sorry bhai DJ bobby
@nikitanagekar67392 жыл бұрын
Not every...i
@aditidixit92112 жыл бұрын
Finally someone talks about the downside of cocktail !! Deepika's character could have been much more worthy if creators put some mind and creativity in it !
@ashwindsouza6062 жыл бұрын
I thought Cocktail ended with Veronica becoming a free spirit again? Granted she's more in control of her life now and it's implied that she doesn't drink as often now. Even more so now, that she tried to conform and failed at getting what she wanted. I thought each of the characters made sense, and had an arc, for the most part. Saif's character finally gets over his commitment phobia. Veronica reaffirms her nature by realising that trying to commit to a long only leads to misery, and the other girl figures out that its okay to be selfish every once in a while. There's also the interactions between the three leads. Each of them affect each others character. You may have a point, but in this particular movie I think it's debatable.
@bhuripatel91302 жыл бұрын
She was worthy ! I don’t understand why you all cringe about it! So basically you want someone remain the same no matter what happen to her. One someone felt some strong emotion like love then people change good way bad way , thinks logically , illogically but people changes as new people enter into your life and become core circle of life then it bound to change. You can not remain the same. That boy changed after he fell in love and why you are not okay being girl change after she fell for him? What’s wrong in change ? She was still free spirit and took stand for herself and kicked him out of his life and house. She was dealing with emotions as much as she could.
@junaidtttt2 жыл бұрын
@@ashwindsouza606 I agree; that's a fair assessment. Also, it needs to be realized that given her grey shades, Veronica's desperation to get Gautam back was beyond palpable, so these histrionics didn't really take me by surprise.
@Lazymath007_2 жыл бұрын
Ok so are you saying a guy should marry a girl even if she is not marriage material?
@ashwindsouza6062 жыл бұрын
@@Lazymath007_ I don't need to be op to know that isn't what she's saying
@ipranjali2 жыл бұрын
Finally someone's called out what's always bugged me about Cocktail. Why was Veronica so hung up on cheater Gautam? Since when is hooking up with your literally only best friend's boyfriend okay? Except the exaggeration put in for comic effect, Veronica was a Queen slaying it until she bumped into these two - Generous, kind, confident and outspoken - and so gorgeous. Her character deserved better in so many ways - definitely not being demoted to a third wheeling supportive best friend to people who broke her trust.
@ashwindsouza6062 жыл бұрын
I thought Cocktail ended with Veronica becoming a free spirit again? Even more so now, that she tried to conform and failed at getting what she wanted. I thought each of the characters made sense, and had an arc, for the most part. Saif's character finally gets over his commitment phobia. Veronica reaffirms her nature by realising that trying to commit to a long only leads to misery, and the other girl figures out that its okay to be selfish every once in a while. There's also the interactions between the three leads. Each of them affect each others character. TRP may have a point, but in this particular movie I think it's debatable.
@akansha17712 жыл бұрын
@@ashwindsouza606 yeah true but hope veronica goes fk u both and doesn't keep em in her life she was heartbroken and being in contact with such ppl she has bad history with will always bring anxiety or sad vibes
@moonlight06652 жыл бұрын
I second your thoughts on this.
@ipranjali2 жыл бұрын
@@ashwindsouza606 Hm. Different perspectives, I suppose. Gautam got over his commitment phobia when he saw the "goody goody two shoes" girl who wears conservative clothes and gets along with mommy. This is a girl who's literal scammer of a husband decided to turn over a new leaf to give the relationship another chance, but Veronica's relationship could never have worked because .. well, because. The deck is totally stacked against her, as I see it. As for Veronica, the last thing I remember was her running around trying to fix up the two - doesn't it end at that scene where they come over to reconcile with Diana's character and its happily ever after for the two lovebirds? Thats what I remember, but it's been a while so there may be some Veronica finds herself tidbit I missed.
@ashwindsouza6062 жыл бұрын
@@ipranjali different perspectives indeed
@sayantanbanerjee16442 жыл бұрын
Datto was one of te best female characters. She was unapologetically hhersel, did not care about societal norms and stood up and fought for what/who she believed in
@TriedRefusedProductions2 жыл бұрын
Acted so brilliantly as well
@abhinavkumar21562 жыл бұрын
In short Kangana was playing Kangana IRONICALLY
@abhishekpatil51812 жыл бұрын
@@abhinavkumar2156 you mean pre ssr death ?
@tanwar6212 жыл бұрын
@@abhinavkumar2156 😂😂😂😂😂😂 Bhai mujhe nahin lagta datto apne fayde ke liye aise chutiyape karti jaise Kangna ne kare
@abhinavkumar21562 жыл бұрын
@@abhishekpatil5181 she's always been like this, it was just time people saw her crazy side
@suvendum.p.77152 жыл бұрын
"Life without Lord Bobby is unimaginable"- Jammy/2022
@weirdtusshar81022 жыл бұрын
😂😂
@surakshaguragain55382 жыл бұрын
That made me chuckle😂
@Drifting_Lost2 жыл бұрын
🤣🤣😭😭
@ultimatemediocreplayer97302 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂😂
@akritigupta46362 жыл бұрын
😂😛
@renudeepak13492 жыл бұрын
Mithun can single handedly take over the whole Matlab Kucch Bhi series
@TriedRefusedProductions2 жыл бұрын
especially his filmography from the late 80s to the 90s
@aditidixit92112 жыл бұрын
For real
@renudeepak13492 жыл бұрын
@@TriedRefusedProductions He's an absolute legend
@samratshome31452 жыл бұрын
@@TriedRefusedProductions The all time og Mithun 🔥🔥🔥
@anwaranu87002 жыл бұрын
I call it Mithun Supremacy....
@Purplesky.072 жыл бұрын
Hated cocktail for just that reason that it ultimately became the typical bollywood 'hot gf but seedhi wife' story. Also ngl was really hoping at one point for Veronica and Meera to end up together.
@ipranjali2 жыл бұрын
Hahaha that would've been epic- although probably too risque for filmmakers then. Come to think of it, even if it didn't become a full blown romance, just girl friendship ftw would've been good for me too! How cool would it be if Meera kicked Gautam's ass for being inappropriate when he tried kissing her and told V about her asshat of a bf that she never thought was good enough for her girl!
@rosalynredwood45422 жыл бұрын
Oh God I thought the same!they could have been so much happier together as a couple or even just bffs leaving Gautama's loser ass behind for good!
@titiksharajput67332 жыл бұрын
Whenever I discussed Cocktail with anybody I always felt it was just me who had this opinion...so glad that you pointed out the same! The fact that Gautam goes around with Veronica, has a great time with her but when it comes to getting serious for someone he chooses the Sanskari Meera...isn't that something being practiced today in reality by a lot of people? Anyway, that was somewhat weird to me when I watched Cocktail the first time and it's great that others realize it too
@helly7theheaven2 жыл бұрын
Sad truth still being followed.
@Crazyboy-pu2ub2 жыл бұрын
Both Veronica and Meera should've dumped Gautam and get into a relationship with each other.
@devakibhagwat61462 жыл бұрын
@@Crazyboy-pu2ub truee. They had more chemistry than either of them did with Gautam, anyway
@amritaprakash24152 жыл бұрын
@@Lazymath007_ if veronica isn't marriage material then gautam definitely isn't.
@DesiCat7892 жыл бұрын
@@Lazymath007_ The problem isn't "Is she marriage material" but "Why is this guy having so much fun with her but has no balls to admit he's in a relationship with her to his mom, to the extent he creates a fake gf with HER bestfriend and then makes out with HER bestfriend while in a relationship with her" - My question is....why is her 'marriage materialness' under question in the first place? The problem is in the man here
@PokhrajRoy.2 жыл бұрын
Mithun Chakraborty is another subgenre of ‘Matlab Kuch BHI’. He’s giving you great material for ages to come 😂
@sauron20000002 жыл бұрын
Koi Shaque?
@kedarsontakke13942 жыл бұрын
Hello there my brother from tiss channel. Love you frequent comments on every episode.
@PokhrajRoy.2 жыл бұрын
@@kedarsontakke1394 Thank you so much!
@swatisaini64472 жыл бұрын
@@PokhrajRoy. matlab Kuch bhi ke naam Ka kutta palu
@theprofessor88212 жыл бұрын
The only bright spot in *Cocktail* was the brilliant performance of *Deepika Padukone* as *Veronica.* She just silenced all those people who criticised her as a plain wooden actress. The most cringy character in my opinion was Gautham's mother, played by *Dimple Kapadia,* who had no problem with her son having affairs with so many girls but at the end wanted a girl who was the classic *Sanskaari Bahu* material as bride for her son.
@faraz59613 күн бұрын
So what did you want the mother to do? Kill her son for being a horrible human being? Which many of the mothers in South East Asia say they would do if we were like Gautam in real life
@janani49372 жыл бұрын
About Tanu weds Manu returns: it happens in real life too, people glorify their toxic exes and choose them at the end, leaving the current partner in a mess🙂...... Because pehla pyaar is precious it seems🙂 so people create such movie endings to attract that sector of audience...
@TriedRefusedProductions2 жыл бұрын
It just seemed abrupt and out of nowhere as multiple times Manu just seemed irritated at Tanu's persistence to want him back. I finally thought he's over it. Low and behold, back to the person that made your life hell
@janani49372 жыл бұрын
@@TriedRefusedProductions That's what toxic people do yaar!! 🙃🙃yeh log bolenge ki uss irritation k peeche pyaar hai🤣🤣🤣and these movies justify it, with all the lovey dovey songs, and portraying the current partner as the other man/woman 😒😒😒
@pastybean44822 жыл бұрын
Who hurt you
@surakshaguragain55382 жыл бұрын
I feel like we all have been there, glorifying the toxic ex, hoping to get back someday. There is always "the ex". Doesn't justify the storyline but a bit closer to reality
@sgerardpandian2 жыл бұрын
Been there done that.. I used to always turn back to that toxic ex till. Thank god one day realised enough is enough, but in another universe i wouldve been with her suffering endlessly. Now i have a beautiful wife and an amazing boy.
@aurarahman82072 жыл бұрын
Jammy, if Tanu was awful, then Manu had his share of flaws too. He mainly fell in love with Datto because of her similarity with Tanu. Not to mention there was an age gap between them which is in fact called out in the movie. Tanu and Manu reuniting in the end was good for Datto as that would give her a chance to find someone who truly loves her and who is not on the rebound. Yes, Tanu and Manu are a toxic couple, let them stay with each other instead of ruining the lives of other innocent people around them 😂
@SlapstickGenius232 жыл бұрын
That’s somewhat fair for its day!
@speakingmymind79702 жыл бұрын
Completely agree, Datto was heartbroken at that moment but the choice saved her from life long regret.
@sreelakshmiramadas23922 жыл бұрын
Also manu kisses tanu in her head while she's asleep 🤷 without consent
@aurarahman82072 жыл бұрын
@@sreelakshmiramadas2392 Not even forehead. As far as I remember it was a peck on the lips! 😂 And he also took her photo while she was asleep.
@mochaolatte2 жыл бұрын
I totally agree with you. I like the movie, it was all fun but didn't like the ending for the same reason Jammy said, but honestly Datto deserves better than to be chosen only because she's a look-alike of his ex
@coconut22622 жыл бұрын
I could feel the trauma of Veronica in the movie when she was trying to transition herself into Meera..Coz I literally felt that I should play dumb to be able to win a guy’s affection when I was in my teens.. It was such a confusing and struggling phase of growing up.. My parents were literally shocked about me having the knowledge of periods before I had mine..🙄
@TriedRefusedProductions2 жыл бұрын
😭
@sm57732 жыл бұрын
Veronica was sadly not really free spirited and wild. I think they hinted at loneliness , issues with abandonment and co dependency . It comes across in her dialogues when she talks about her parents abandoning her and how she gets abandoned by people she loves. She loved Meera , trusted her and felt betrayed. And then Saif didn't choose her either.
@abhishekraja79812 жыл бұрын
OMG 🥺
@preetamona2 жыл бұрын
For some reason, boys/men always (usually) go for ditzy and 'neka' (bengali word for annoying. Captures the essence better) girls.
@Manasvita2 жыл бұрын
@@sm5773 I was looking for this comment. This is exactly what it is. Veronica's family history plays a major role in her character arc, and people seem to forget that. There are reasons why she was the way she was and did what she did throughout the movie. Of course, this was not spoonfed to the audience. But if you think about it, you will understand.
@sm57732 жыл бұрын
Unpopular opinion: Manu deserves Tanu lol. I am glad Datto escaped the madness. Dude likes chaos and toxicity.
@SlapstickGenius232 жыл бұрын
Although I didn’t watch the movie, I’d sanely say that Datto ironically escaped Manu and his screwed up family in a good way, just without even knowing the scarier scenes.
@niharikkatyagi40892 жыл бұрын
Frankly I disagree in the case of Tanu weds Manu Returns. It's been shown from the starting that Manu followed Datto only coz she looked like Tanu, that was the thing he fell for FIRST. Then we saw him being uneasy with Tanu around him during his wedding preparation, clearly not a man who has moved on. Yes, Datto deserved a happy ending, but who said her happy ending is Manu?
@celestial.dreamer70282 жыл бұрын
Exactly I'm kinda taken aback how Jammy missed this out 😅 relationship between Manu and Datto would've been so unhealthy
@carpediem85332 жыл бұрын
Actually datto was saved from that relationship. She was just a rebound. Plus if we remember part 1, manu kissed tanu while she was drugged. He totally deserved tanu.
@speakingmymind79702 жыл бұрын
I was happy that datto left Manu, it was not heartbreak but freedom from problems she might have faced. Jammy said he didn't understand why Manu choose Tanu at the end but what I failed to understand when Manu fell in love with datto or why he decided to marry her, just because of their faces. Manu was introvert not innocent in this movie, he married Tanu because he was amazed by her attitude and same goes to Tanu she aslo choose Manu knowing how he was and so in the end they choose each other. Manu even once called Datto Tanu, imagine her life with him calling her by his ex. Jammy also mentioned that Tanu is reason Manu was in mental hospital but aren't they both were there proving each other mental, so here Tanu won the argument so she is selfish. End was perfect I would say, Tanu and manu deserve each other and Datto deserve peace from their problems.
@erenthebirb12202 жыл бұрын
"How ridiculous do you want the scenes to be?" Some Indian Movies: *"Yes!"*
@AshishKumar-no9ns2 жыл бұрын
Over 9000..
@zeba.subliminals2 жыл бұрын
Not some 😀
@ho-leesheet59232 жыл бұрын
Hmmmmmmm.
@deepaksomesula31682 жыл бұрын
You do know that "South Indian" is not a language right?
@prisharoy73972 жыл бұрын
Meera and Gautam had no chemistry. They felt REALLY forced. Veronica was literally one of the best Bollywood female characters who was treated horribly by the writers.The movie really should have ended with Meera and Veronica kicking Gautam out of thei lives and living together as besties.
@sudeshnakhound15582 жыл бұрын
I'm so glad you pointed out these things in Tanu weds Manu and Cocktail! I was shocked to see everyone around me finding no issue at all when these movies first released .. Feels kinda nice that there is at least someone who agrees with me , grateful that you are explaining it so clearly here in such a platform ! 👍🏽
@gtmashok2 жыл бұрын
I'm glad you brought this point about Cocktail. Gautam was a chicken and a coward, who was all attracted to Veronica but loses his daring when it comes to confronting his mom. The movie would've been actually bold if Gautam actually stuck with Veronica, convinced his mom, allowed Veronica to be her free spirit, and Meera didn't insert herself.
@saimanazar3192 жыл бұрын
Finally, someone called out on cocktail, the music was good, the acting was good, but to me, the storyline was problematic, since it was released. Thanx Jammy for adding it to ur mtlb kuch b list
@tanvisharma83462 жыл бұрын
I agree!!
@Lazymath007_2 жыл бұрын
What's wrong with a guy going for a girl whose marriage material which in this case is Meera?
@Lazymath007_2 жыл бұрын
Ok so let's twist this up. Think of Manmarziyan where the genders were reversed. Vicky kaushal was the hot carefree guy and Abhishek was the matured responsible man. We all know who Taapsee chose at the end right? It was Abhishek because he was "husband material"
@ManishaSingh29.112 жыл бұрын
@@Lazymath007_ Hi I hope you have seen both manmarziyan and cocktail. Pannu was let down by kaushal multiple times. - Rumi promises her family that Vicky will come with his parents to ask for her hand in marriage but Vicky repeatedly gets cold feet - she gives up on him and agrees to an arranged marriage with a mature and responsible banker, Robbie - but the night before the wedding, refuses to marry, believing Vicky has changed. However, he backs out again. - was Pannu going around and having fun with, random boys without any commitment, she was serious with Vicky and wanted to end up with him, it was Vicky who backed out everytime. What did Veronica do to deserve what her best friend and boyfriend did to her. She literally tried to change herself to be with that cheating boyfriend. So as in case of manmarziyan, it should have been Gautam to be dumped not Veronica.
@saimanazar3192 жыл бұрын
@@ManishaSingh29.11 said it all, very well said 👏👏and explained the point of vie. The he comparison of manmarzian and cocktail it self does not make any sense as both are extremely different storylines.
@farzanashakila25312 жыл бұрын
Finally, someone spoke my mind about the problem of "cocktail". You can do anything and everything with Veronica except marrying her because she is not like " Meera". I just hate this movie.
@thetintedwindow4642 жыл бұрын
I remember how RHTDM used to have a sweet spot in our growing up years. Yesterday my husband and I casually switched in to watch it again, thinking it would be refreshing... probably after 10 or 12 years to watch it again. The 10 minutes into it and we were to irritated with Maddy's character and arrogant ways. Specially the scene where he ask girls to kiss around his friends. We just couldn't continue....and switched to Friends reruns🤦♀️
@alonealien14742 жыл бұрын
I agree. The hero's character in RHTDM is just plain annoying! Lying to get close to a girl and then getting all offended when he's rightly rebuked for doing so, then acting like Devdas and all...All round childish and toxic!
@thetintedwindow4642 жыл бұрын
@@alonealien1474 that is what..and what's more annoying is that we were crazy about this movie 20years ago and just can't stand it today.
@pleasyplease5719 Жыл бұрын
@@alonealien1474 what else was he supposed to do if not lie, she wouldn't talk to him otherwise & that was the only girl he ever fell for. He just took a chance & not with the wrong intentions but with genuine love
@user_ssp2 жыл бұрын
I was feeling low and overwhelmed this is exactly what I needed. Thank you jammy 🥺 seriously man datto was such a precious gem.
@gazeofthedestroyer85502 жыл бұрын
Ashleel Grover has turned into perfect meme fodder within a short span of time it seems. 😂😂😂
@manjughosh94252 жыл бұрын
Ashneel*😂😂
@psy-i-i-duuck89522 жыл бұрын
Ashleel Grover 💀 💀 i-
@rameezrazaansari45342 жыл бұрын
But he is good as the 🦈 😊
@aishwaryaskumar67932 жыл бұрын
@@rameezrazaansari4534 I think he's gonna regret ever participating in the show. The hate he is getting because of the show is crazy
@Sahilkumar-pw3jh2 жыл бұрын
Ashleel 🤨🤨🤨
@suvendum.p.77152 жыл бұрын
Mithun Da fighting scenes should be seen with open mind, it should be so open-minded that the Brain falls off🤯
@zinnea98252 жыл бұрын
😀
@mohanachowdhury52702 жыл бұрын
Completely out of context but here it goes >> Manu's lack of willpower to just simply ignore the tantrums thrown by Tanu for attention would have cost Datto a lot more had the marriage actually taken place. So, whatever those two have in between them, Datto is no longer a part of that mess. She deserves the world for being so pure. ❤
@jayesh51312 жыл бұрын
8:35 Even Ranbir thought the same way and rejected the film! Even after its huge success Ranbir still thinks the story is weird! I'm glad that he rejected the role 😌
@SlapstickGenius232 жыл бұрын
We’re all glad that Ranbir rejected Tanu Weds Manu for a good reason!
@suhas61112 жыл бұрын
kitakithalu is definitely is too much man, as a person who is a little overweight myself, showing someone's insecurities as comedy is actually not so fun, it's okay until a point [ even though my opinion differs] kitakithalu crosses the line for sure Also, I feel sorry for you for going through all these movies for us
@bharathkalyan45452 жыл бұрын
Dude, but the climax scene has an powerful message, that at the end love only matters ..
@christah64432 жыл бұрын
@@bharathkalyan4545 yess 💯
@rehmaniac71652 жыл бұрын
I bed to differ with you on #Kithakithalu , agree that there are loads of body shaming jokes in it.. but the director’s intention was to showcase the problems in our society thru Hero’s character and then make us realize that it is completely wrong to do such in the last 30mins..
@ankitm70302 жыл бұрын
One thing that I always find most disturbing in old films is "torture on animals".......whenever any dog or elephant rescuing his master or tiger or innumerable horses taking part in fight just does not show how much physical pain they go through...
@_apoorva_072 жыл бұрын
Finally someone said it 🙌🏻🙌🏻
@ipranjali2 жыл бұрын
If it helps any, and I don't know if its universally applicable, but I've read that the horses that feature in war scenes in movies have been trained to fall and act dead. I'm sure a number of animals go through a hard time too, of course, but it gives me hope to know that at least some of them are "trained actors" and I like to say "Good job, horsey!" When one of them does a convincing fall.
@ankitm70302 жыл бұрын
@@ipranjali I have read that Horse's legs are very important for their body....any damage to their legs means Horse is going to die sooner or later...
@gauriparab2 жыл бұрын
I fully agree with you about “Cocktail”! And “Tanu weds Manu returns”. Made my blood boil! I mean WTF ! 🙄
@chandlerhbk082 жыл бұрын
Had a big problem with your description of cocktail. First you praise the character of Veronica for being a "free spirit" and "not caring about other people's opinions", but then she cares so much about Gautam's opinion that she decided to change herself. And you blame "gender stereotypes" for this. If she's a "free spirit", then she shouldn't care what a guy thinks of her looks either isn't it? Whether a guy or a girl, it's their ABSOLUTE CHOICE, no explanations required, when it comes to choosing their life partner. A girl has a right to say that she wishes to marry only a guy who has served in the army, as much as a guy has a right to say he wants to marry a girl who does Pooja everyday. Whether they eventually marry such people is a different issue altogether. Gautam wanted a certain type of a girl as his life partner. It's his choice, as much as it was Veronica's to "not care about other people's opinions" Sometimes people confuse "being progressive" with "being a simp"
@ayushsrivastava16722 жыл бұрын
Welcome to the woke culture my friend
@abcsin65262 жыл бұрын
Kya baat boli hai,sahi bola hai
@pran20532 жыл бұрын
The telugu cinema kithakithalu which you showed here was a comedy which emphasises on the message that body shaming and judging on one's looks is wrong. It's one of the progressive and well thought films on the subject.
@aaliyahkanue2 жыл бұрын
Bobby trying to refuse love had me in splits 🤣🤣🤣
@TheStardust20112 жыл бұрын
I don't see why you are calling out Veronica. The writers yes, but as the character, Veronica did what she thought was needed to be accepted. She finally found two anchoring relationships only to have both of them betray her, so her heartbreak, frustration, anger, desperation, urge to fix the situation (her situation) everything is justified. I wish instead of making Gautam and Meera as the central characters in the climax, makers had rounded off Veronica's character in the end as the protagonist. Gautam was a asshole and Meera was jerk in bechari mode, neither them nor their love story earned any respect from viewers.. Like no one cheered for them or hoped for them to be together in the end. They could very well be damned as long as my girl Veronica was rocking her life!
@roopamenon47512 жыл бұрын
Spot on Dear Anmol on that particular scene from Kanmadam- easily one of the best films from Malayalam cinema. The scene was out of place as was the sudden departure from Mohanlal Sir's character when he suddenly grabbed Manju's character.. That She was shocked to be in that position n later found out that she did care for him is natural but the fact that his character forced it out of her (without patiently courting her n waiting for her to respond) is clearly problematic.
@SanithKK2 жыл бұрын
Narasimham climax dialogue is pure objectification of a woman even though the hero was erudite. But few got offended by Mamooty in Kasaba where his character had grey shades.
@roopamenon47512 жыл бұрын
@@SanithKK What is wrong is just that dear..Sometimes the viewers are so caught up in the grandeur of what the hero or heroine does,we tend to overlook the glaring flaws because of how much we like the character n get swept away by the story they tell us..but in retrospect,some things are disturbing and it's important to recognise them.I love the actor n person that is our beloved Suresh Gopi Sir 💕but in the movies even though they are the adrenaline pumping movies that we need sometimes ,the way women are treated and abused(verbally n physically..it doesn't matter that these characters are supposed to be evil)was treated as an audience clapping n cheering prop n most movies had them but these respected actors would be the first to tell you that those things were n still continue to be problematic.Thank you for highlighting those scenes 🙏
@KanishQQuotes2 жыл бұрын
Tanu manu return ending was indeed bad. Tanu comes across as manipulative and ultimately is able to manipulate Manu in the end. Also datto fight with her entire village for this marriage only to call it off
@Crazyboy-pu2ub2 жыл бұрын
Both Veronica and Meera should've dumped Gautam and get into a relationship with each other.
@PokhrajRoy.2 жыл бұрын
4:51 We would be remiss without a Lord Bobby Reference. Those films were iconic. The Swag was just unmatchable 🔥
@shwetagarg33802 жыл бұрын
Ahhh finally ! I was waiting for this one 😂😂 it's so much fun You're doing a great job anmol ❤️
@pushkalvasudev7902 жыл бұрын
Even tho kithakithalu is regressive in the comedy angle the final msg of the film was that inner beauty matters more than external appearance
@SlapstickGenius232 жыл бұрын
Nice! I’d feel good that it was somewhat more enlightened for its day in India than it is now.
@s9ka9722 жыл бұрын
Dear , Though the film Kanmadam had this cringe scene , the film showcased on two strong woman - one by Viswanathans Mother and other Bhanu . Bhanu was a very mentally strong blacksmith woman. In how many Indian movies besides malayalam you place heroine as a blacksmith in late 1990s when the entire country was obsessed with Fair and lovely girls. Malayalam industry was and is still much progressive than most Industries in India .
@rajeevmenon60972 жыл бұрын
TRP is now after TRPs. You should understand the nuances of a movie before commenting on just a scene. This movie was well ahead of its time unlike the "ordinary Indian kitchen" which was very regressive. If the meaning of being progressive is hurting the sentiment of a community, you need help, Jamie. This wasn't a cringe moment...it can be deemed as the sudden outburst of a character where the darker side of Mohanlal's character came to the fore...which is natural.
@abhikarthikeyan992 жыл бұрын
Kanmadham should not be in this list. The movie was emotional and showing life two different people and how they face life
@ashwindsouza6062 жыл бұрын
@@rajeevmenon6097 TRP did not compare the malyalam industry of that time to bollywood. He compard it to the malyalam industry of today. either way. that scene is problomatic no matter which language it was shot in.
@mrxxx74672 жыл бұрын
@@rajeevmenon6097 'The Great Indian Kitchen' is not against any particular community..it is clearly in the line of Science vs Religion..Whatever shown in the movie is commentry on Indian Patriarchy irrespective of any religion..
@arjunsherin43222 жыл бұрын
@@rajeevmenon6097 great indian kitchen ൽ nair ഫാമിലി ആയത് കൊണ്ട് ആണോ അത് regressive ,ordinary ആയത്😂.പണ്ട് കാലത്തെ സംബന്ധം ഉൾപ്പടെ ഇന്നും സ്ത്രീകളെ inferior ആയി കാണുന്ന society ആണ് നമ്മുടേത്, അത് nair family മാത്രം അല്ല.അതിന് ഇത്ര പൊള്ളേണ്ട ആവശ്യം ഒന്നും ഇല്ല പിന്നെ nair families നെ പൊക്കി അടിക്കുമ്പോഴും പറയണം,ഇങ്ങനെ ഒന്നും അല്ല ഞങ്ങളുടെ കൂട്ടത്തിലും ഉണ്ട് problems എന്ന്. പൊക്കി അടിക്കുമ്പോൾ happy, അല്ലെങ്കിൽ regressive പോലും പിന്നെ കന്മദത്തിൽ dark side outburst ആണെങ്ങിൽ പടം തീരുമ്പോഴും അങ്ങനെ പറഞ്ഞു വെക്കണം,പക്ഷെ അങ്ങനെ അല്ലല്ലോ...overall മികച്ച സിനിമയിലെ ഊള scene ആണ് അത്.
@mypurpleglasses2 жыл бұрын
Jammy totally agree with you about cocktail, I mean WTF, just because a girl is free spirited, knows what she wants, she have to be changed. And don't start me on Goutam.. yes. There is still people like that in today's society. It's pathetic
@albertthomasmanayani53512 жыл бұрын
I am not surprised to see a Malayalam film in today's Matlab Kuch Bhi series.. But a point to be noted is that most of the movies of superstars like Mohanlal, Mammotty etc in the late 1990s and 2000s were must worst than this. Like the entire Shaji Kailas filmography is tailormade for your series. Seeing Kanmadam in the series makes little sense when you compare those films with it. Do check out the celebrated movies of Shaji Kailas for better understanding.
@abhikarthikeyan992 жыл бұрын
There are cringe movies in Malayalam but kanmadham should not be in this list because was a hard hitting movie and should not view the movie from this scene.
@albertthomasmanayani53512 жыл бұрын
@@abhikarthikeyan99 That was my point too.. That's why I referred Shaji Kailas movies
@nchl53402 жыл бұрын
Oh sexism in the most celerbrated Malayalam movies in the 90s that went unchecked. Its unbelievable. I remember many scenes making me cringe even before I knew the existence of the word feminism.
@albertthomasmanayani53512 жыл бұрын
@@nchl5340 True.. I really hate the movies which I loved in the 1990s due to that..
@GOKZ8882 жыл бұрын
I don't agree, completely to this. Yes the viewpoint was quite narrow but you can't generalize movies and call them not progressive enough because of a particular time period or because you find an ideology to be neo-liberal and therefore can't be applied to an entire decade of wonderful cinema.
@abhiv72792 жыл бұрын
I'm glad you've added the scene from the Malayalam movie. No doubt, Malayalam cinema is one of the best in the country right now, however, that was definitely not the case in the 90s- 2010s era.
@dilipr16782 жыл бұрын
Just mentioning few movies from the 90s - Amaram, Sadayam, Kilukkam, manichithrathazhu
@jarvis36302 жыл бұрын
Ya.. true when 'traffic' released it was evident in the box office that the audience was fed up by those cliche movies..
@Nirmalkvarghese2 жыл бұрын
Most of the National awards was received in the 90s
@Nirmalkvarghese2 жыл бұрын
@@dilipr1678 kalapani nadodikatti akara Akra and list is goes on
@adarshmythridanaseelan54072 жыл бұрын
That means you didn't watched many of the malayalam films in the 80s and 90s period
@abhiv72792 жыл бұрын
When the world needed him, Jammy came through with another Matlab Kuch Bhi! ❤️
@being_kalakaar2 жыл бұрын
Entertainment doesn’t mean that problematic content can be passed off so easily. It is time for responsible entertainment.
@sauron20000002 жыл бұрын
In case it is too responsible, it might cease to be entertaining
@anupamaMall2 жыл бұрын
@@sauron2000000 It isn't entertaining to glorify problematic things.
@Lazymath007_2 жыл бұрын
@@anupamaMall I guess movie would be really stale then. We wouldn't have any cool action movies anymore because apparently a cool BGM means glorification and you don't want to glorify violence, do you? That was just diminish the other point of cinema and films would cease to exist
@Lazymath007_2 жыл бұрын
Are you trying to convince me you have a brain of a 5 year old who cant tell the difference between fictional and non fictional?
@aryak84122 жыл бұрын
Honestly, the only thought I had when I watched cocktail was that Diana and Deepika share good chemistry. Hated the ending.
@aditidixit92112 жыл бұрын
Okay but the cringe between Rani and bobby is really something😂😂
@arnakshi2 жыл бұрын
Matlab kuch bhi is always my fave😂❤️
@nabeelkhan46732 жыл бұрын
"Lord Bobby" Damn.. that entire analysis and precise explanation of Lord Bobby in intense movies is hilarious. Thanks for the good laugh, Anmol.
@theeternalstudent65822 жыл бұрын
Jammy, I don't think you really understood the scene from Kanmadam. To begin with, the writer Lohitadas is a staunch feminist. The character of Manju Warrier is deeply in love with that of Mohanlal's but she really doesn't know what it is to be in love as she was burdened with her family's responsibilities, ever since her brother abandoned them. Think about Socrates cave men who have only seen shadows. She was ready to sacrifice her own life for the sake of her sisters. She had to put up this bold face who is afraid of nothing, to be a woman with no vulnerabilities as the society will only take advantage of it (as happened to her elder sister). Think about a wild stallion whose spirit was never broken. The "secret" is the unlocking of the journey towards love that was always there but never explored. This is when the cave man is pushed out into the sunlight. He took the first step towards it only because he knew that she was there at the frame of the door but was hesitant to make the first move or just didn't know how. This is when the woman ascends the Diotima’s ladder and ascends to the beautiful love itself. Somebody had to do it and he was ready to be the "bad man" knowing perfectly well how she would respond because he was desperate and really didn't have anyone else in his life (his own mother chose her second husband over him, which was kind of his fault) and she had none either. Lohitadas has this complex layered portrayal of his characters, that you actually have to peel it off one by one to know what really lies beneath.
@ardratheresejoseph38702 жыл бұрын
It appeared like that to me also when I first saw the movie. But now, I see that he only forcefully kissed her. He could have talked to her more which would also make her understand her emotions.
@sunandinighosh60372 жыл бұрын
Chalo after waiting for so long finally matlab kuch bhi is hereeeee!!!!!
@fabercastell62372 жыл бұрын
Please watch Malayalam movie Mr. Marumagan or Mayamohini played by Dileep. You can make a whole matlab kuch bhi episode from just one movie. Malayalam movie has evolved a lot but Dileeps movies are still in following patriarchy thoughts.
@nikithasj42732 жыл бұрын
There is a horrific scene in Mr. Marumakan where Baburaj asks suraj venjaramoodu's character to rape Dileep's sister. Our hero rescues her and takes revenge by asking suraj to rape Baburaj's sister who helped Suraj in the process. And this scene was made to seem funny. Rape is something we shouldn't wish for even our worst enemies. That's the worst scene I've ever seen in my life.
@lairyfights2 жыл бұрын
That guy is literally a criminal 😭 no surprise his movies are horrible
@lairyfights2 жыл бұрын
@@nikithasj4273 I mean dileep did exactly that irl so
@erinliju18312 жыл бұрын
5:39 that face of lord Bobby enlightrned me from within🤣🤣🤣
@onionyatalks95942 жыл бұрын
Good to know that I wasn't the only one who thought that cocktail (which i thought to be a progressive film because of Deepika Padukone and her character) turned out to be such a regressive mess in the end.
@MrSweetgear2 жыл бұрын
Agreed! I loved Veronica's character so much! she was free, confident and fun! and I hated this movie because of it's progression in the second half.
@anupriyachoudhary37972 жыл бұрын
Anmol, I've watched your reviews for Indian serials that have a very crass script. I think , for a change, you should also talk about serials that really had a good storyline and also the actors were apt in their roles. For ex: Sony Tv produces original and compelling shows and I think it's the only channel to do that( atleast now a days). Shows like : khichdi, powder, dhadkan( currently on air) kuch rang...bhi etc.(I'm sure you'll find many when you do your research) I think the viewers also need to know about the shows that were actually good . Bad is criticized often, let's focus on good.
@pranjalisahu37522 жыл бұрын
I think 'ye un dino ki baat hai' too is a good serial. Refreshing and original
@askmeanything65902 жыл бұрын
He already has
@anupriyachoudhary37972 жыл бұрын
@@pranjalisahu3752 yeah sure
@chabs2012 жыл бұрын
Also madam sir and wagle ki duniya
@mugdhafadnavis70942 жыл бұрын
I have DMed Anmol with the exact same context. That he should at least point out some good shows now. 'Yeh Un Dinon Ki Baat Hai' is definitely one of the best shows Sony has ever produced.
@boba84242 жыл бұрын
As someone who was born heavy, the movie Kitakithalu made me so uncomfortable as a kid whenever it aired on the television. I used to force myself to laugh along with my family even though in my mind I felt personally attacked at the scenes shown in the movie. No one has the right to make remark about anyone's weight, if you are comfortable with your own skin, then you are fine. I was hoping you would cover this and you finally did. Thank you.
@akhilharikumar32512 жыл бұрын
The Director of Kanmadam AK Lohitadas was one of the greatest writers in Malayalam cinema.
@bengomabengomi14002 жыл бұрын
Yes, someone said it. Cocktail was very very problematic. I still remember, I went with my Aunt and sister to watch this movie. My sister is a huge Deepika fan, am not though. Still her acting was pretty good in this particular movie. After watching the movie I clearly remember; one of the audience was saying that, ‘it was obvious; Saif would choose Daina over Deepika, because she was sanskari and well behaved and Deepika was not; it is a good message to the current generation women, they should know their boundaries, or else they will be left alone.’ I was like, seriously? But unfortunately, still many people believe this and this movie just proved their notion, that they were correct.
@ashwindsouza6062 жыл бұрын
I thought Cocktail ended with Veronica becoming a free spirit again? Even more so now, that she tried to conform and failed at getting what she wanted. I thought each of the characters made sense, and had an arc, for the most part. Saif's character finally gets over his commitment phobia. Veronica reaffirms her nature by realising that trying to commit to a long only leads to misery, and the other girl figures out that its okay to be selfish every once in a while. There's also the interactions between the three leads. Each of them affect each others character. TRP may have a point, but in this particular movie I think it's debatable.
@AbhinavSKumar-fc2ff2 жыл бұрын
Man why haven't you made a review about the Malayalam movie Bhoothakalam yet
@TriedRefusedProductions2 жыл бұрын
non-hindi recommendations go live on Sunday
@Belle-jf4bx2 жыл бұрын
@@TriedRefusedProductions can you talk about the problematic tamil film puthiya paadhai also please
@underratedcontents82852 жыл бұрын
One kind request : instead of 5, make videos on 10 Matlab kuch bhi scenes.. Love u bro 😍
@NV-oi9ov2 жыл бұрын
Manu falls in love with Datto with an idea that she is the kind of person in soul that he actually desired in Tanu .. while he actually falls in love with this IDEAL TANU which is Datto!!! So that's why when he realises that he still is in love with Tanu.. he can't make up his mind. Tanu meanwhile throws more tantrums like insulting datto.. and fed up with it.. he makes up his mind to marry Datto.. remember how he tells his decision exactly after their confrontation? But at last he realises that he can't marry her since he is in love with the idea of this 'good' Datto and refuses to marry! As the end credits roll you see that tanu and manu are fighting again over a tie worn by manu. It's a way of saying that they are fit being misfits. Datto's track is for the 3rd installment of the film and that sad ending for her made us remember and root for her more! I think it's Himanshu and Aanand Rai's finest film!
@labyrinthine32672 жыл бұрын
It was nice to see Lord Bobby aka Jammy origins in this series. Dunno if that was your past birth or your future Jammy. 😂
@imsayyam2 жыл бұрын
Tbh I won't include the kangana scene in matlab kuch bhi series matlab kuch bhi series is meant for problematic scenes not necessarily terrible endings
@rezvanmanbari23432 жыл бұрын
Back in 2012, I hadn't got the enough knowledge to understand the content of cocktail properly, but was always feeling that something is definitely wrong with the movie, anyhow I kept watching it. Years after I felt so regretful that I used to celebrate the movie☹️
@aarshrathod45812 жыл бұрын
I think that inclusion of cocktail is not required.. as in this scenario.. gowtam played by saif ali khan.. portrays a character that he didn't at all wish to marry any girl n enjoy his happening life... But then eventually he fells in love with the purity of meera.... It's not about the Indian clothing of meera or the free spirit of Veronica... It's just that he didn't had such ideologies while he was dating with Veronica.. n when he sees meera.. the essence of her ..the mere presence of her changed gowtam...nd he started having feelings for her... He had equal respect for Veronica too ......Sorry that's what I feel.
@Anonymous-xc3qu2 жыл бұрын
Cocktail was one movie that had a great first half, but its second half was a 'mess'.
@nisahkarhse49982 жыл бұрын
you know it takes a lot of dum to talk abt such moments from films that have huge and loyal fanbase who like it exactly the way it is and would defend it regardless. Kudos to you for always fulfilling the responsibility of shedding light on such subjects that help people be more aware. It's saddening that they dont realize it on their own. But somebody gotta do it 👏
@mohitmurmu78242 жыл бұрын
Dekho wo aa gaya, mast videos k sath :-)
@atmikpandey61242 жыл бұрын
I think in movie Cocktail Meera wasn't some so called" sanskari cookie cutter", I felt that she just wasn'tthat much free spirited girl. She was just a normal girl and was somewhat confused regarding her relationship with Saif and Veronica. The whole movie was about the miscommunication between both the women.
@rohithraghavan54192 жыл бұрын
Bhoothakalam review please 😊
@user-bi9ss9bt7p2 жыл бұрын
You got it wrong with the first one in the list, “Kitakitalu”. It is a comedy movie which does not approach the subject seriously. The movie intentionally exaggerates the scenes with fat shamming. The climax finally reveals how the husband’s character (and the audience) was wrong to judge the wife’s character for her appearance and no couple is perfect. I hate it when the reviewers call a scene from a parody movie silly. It is designed to be silly. Can’t judge a book by reading a page, can you?!
@sandeepkumarbattu88442 жыл бұрын
Yes.. He didn't get the movie
@srujanpandeti4832 жыл бұрын
Absolutely. Im sure these reviewers wouldn't have watched the whole movie. It was a beautiful message for every married couple !!!
@coolsand2 жыл бұрын
Yep you are right…. I was just left a similar comment.
@SM-tg6mj2 жыл бұрын
Face palm moment at Bobby's I love you was hilarious
@suprithaks622 жыл бұрын
Omg nailed it. I didn't approve Cocktail back in the days when it was so popular. I could never get my point of view through the brains of my friends...... I'm gonna send this video to them now!
@gurpreetjoshi30272 жыл бұрын
I have to disagree with the cocktail one. It's not that she is a free spirit and doesn't care about people's opinion doesn't make her marriage material, but as the movie progresses she is shown to have numerous issues, alcoholism, she is erratic, super possessive, and gautam being her friend in the end saves her after her car accident and she deals with all that stuff.
@SlapstickGenius232 жыл бұрын
Is she a #yandere or not? Well, she does have issues related to her very dysfunctional background, I guess.
@gumiho60752 жыл бұрын
So all those "problems" of her didnt bother him when they were dating.. when she was his girlfriend??.. Only when it came to marriage, he realised she has problems?
@SlapstickGenius232 жыл бұрын
@@gumiho6075 definitely. She does have problems but isn’t a #yandere. Even then, the cheater has more problems than her, which is complicated, of course.
@mohammadmeu2 жыл бұрын
@@gumiho6075 are we talking about the same movie? If I remember correctly, they were never "in love". They had plans to get married and stay as an open couple, so they could maintain sexual relationships outside their marriage. There was no "love". So it's pretty much the opposite of what you described because Veronica was his choice in marriage but not as a love partner.
@adityaparmar64332 жыл бұрын
Physics exists Mithun : I missed the part where that's my problem
@jovianthomas68912 жыл бұрын
7:00 This scene was so unsettling to watch when it got showcased in the T.V during my childhood. I mean... It was nothing short of physical and sexual abuse.
@nikithasj42732 жыл бұрын
Malayalam have a fair share of regressive and cringeworthy movies. This one is nothing compared to some of movies of Jayaram and Dileep.And such movies have released occasionally in last few years too even though numbers have decreased.
@toyotachevrolet49722 жыл бұрын
Omar Lulu says hi
@nikithasj42732 жыл бұрын
@@toyotachevrolet4972 Actually I haven't watched his films.😅
@archanavinod12 жыл бұрын
Though the scene from the movie Kanmadam was indeed very regressive one, but the movie is a gem....A.K.Lohithadas the writer ,director is considered to be a path breaking script writer in malayalam movie....Just go through his filmography, you won't regret.....
@mr.dugong28162 жыл бұрын
I really wanna see Jammy play a younger Baba Nirala in an origin story of Ashram. 😝
@shubhamkewalramani99192 жыл бұрын
What happened to Veronica in Cocktail happens with so many Indian women with those characteristics all the time. The film was just true is showcasing what actually happens and even focused more on the interpersonal relationships among Gautam Meera and Veronica. There's no good or bad.
@Soumik.Naskar2 жыл бұрын
Years ago Mithunda said in dance bangla dance that I've done more than 300 movies and I myself wouldn't be able watch at least 150 of em😅
@sanjanadamle232 жыл бұрын
He also holds a world record of releasing maximum films in a year 😅😅😅
@Soumik.Naskar2 жыл бұрын
@@sanjanadamle23 dang😁
@preetijiwane76262 жыл бұрын
guess, he just needed the money.
@thesattubrings2 жыл бұрын
Morality changes with time. What today is acceptable tomorrow will not and this continues so we can't really tell what's right.
@unapologeticbhakt95622 жыл бұрын
Can't believe Mithun Da can be a National award winner and this!
@oddly.satisfying2942 жыл бұрын
What ROFL 😂🤣 dhamaka start.. 👌I love you bhai.. one more thing i saw your dance of Hrithik Roshan step.. It was nice try and came out awesome. Really appreciate your talent bro..
@janani49372 жыл бұрын
😍😍😍finallly!!!!!! Please try out scenes from tamil cinema and serials also Jammy!!! They're a perfect content hub for your matlab kuch bhi series😁
@CEFSIVASHANKARJ2 жыл бұрын
Especially Tamil serials nowadays are cringeworthy. Gosh they are so cringe and at sometimes we'll be like WTF!🤦♂️
@siddharthsinha93002 жыл бұрын
I have a guilty secret to confess. That first one about the fat girl jumping in the pool made me burst out laughing. But, in my defence, that is the only time it has happened. I love the Matlab Kuchh Bhi series because I wholeheartedly agree with Jammy, Indian cinema is, and has been, highly regressive, and that needs to be a point of discussion. That's the only way we can bring about progress. Still, though, that guy being launched from the pool and landing on a tree was hilarious! For once, the ignorant narrow-mindedness of Indian filmmakers didn't make me seeth with anger at their idiotic viewpoints.
@jaideepsai492 жыл бұрын
In 'kithakithalu' movie the hero is shown in such a negative way that at the end he learns a similarly big lesson so dont just quote some of the scenes in the movie.
@MrinalShastrygolu2 жыл бұрын
Lord mithun will lead in kuch bhi moments and over the top scenes 🤣🤣
@ani-po1td2 жыл бұрын
Now selmon bhoi and balayya are continuing the legacy of Lord mithun
@Timberwolf19922 жыл бұрын
He's soon gonna be joined by salman and tiger shroff.
@dachepallysrinathsai50712 жыл бұрын
Yes kitha kithalu is a comedy movie. In most of the comedy or spoof movies, there will be realisation climax. You are just bombarding only black spots in a movie. But u should get that viewpoint with entirety.
@symphonyofcolours69942 жыл бұрын
You dare mock Lord Bobby despite being his namesake and lookalike?! Ruk, main tera doglapan utaarta hu ab! 😂😂😂
@TriedRefusedProductions2 жыл бұрын
HAHA the audacity!!!
@dhananjay95572 жыл бұрын
Whatever kanmadham is still best movie Kanmadham is one of the best movies of mohanlal and manjuwarrier and indian cinema Dont judge the movies based on the that particular scene and i am feeling emotionless after seeing iconic kanmadham in this list with other awkward movies 😶😶😶😶😶😶😶😶
@deepjyotiojah30692 жыл бұрын
I don't know why, I found the first movie scenes so funny😆😆 Looking at the actors facial expressions
@megha68652 жыл бұрын
Tanu Weds Manu returns was best till Tanu criticizing Datto on her looks..that was sad ending..instead they should have showed Datto dumping Manu at Mandap Or showed some mature discussion happening between Characters..I always hated Tanu's Character..watched only for Datto..
@veda68312 жыл бұрын
Why is stalking and harrassment shown as "romance" in Indian films? Hollywood also used to do that. I never understood Cocktail's success too. It was such a shit film.
@highdive48782 жыл бұрын
Let's just face it. No matter how liberal you get in life, when it comes to marrying, you would choose a girl like Meera. Not Veronica.
@SlapstickGenius232 жыл бұрын
Hah!? In Australia during the early 1900s, a lot of Australians used to have arranged marriages. Similar for a majority of humans in a lot of minority world countries until the 1930s onward.
@Lovepeacegod5842 жыл бұрын
In Mohabbatein .. Kiran (Preeti Jhangiani) get married at the age of 17 ( Old guy told Jimmy that her husband is missing from last 2 years and she is just 19 now which mean she was married at 17 😂). And very educated family .. pilot husband..
@knight65772 жыл бұрын
In my opinion in Tanu weds Manu 2 , Manu just fell in love with dato because it was how he wanted tanu to be , in my opinion he just fell in love with the perception of a careing tanu , he was never in love with dato