Trigger Comparisons - Geissele, Hyperfire, Rise Armament, Triggertech

[@rtk114]

One of the better reviews I’ve seen.

[@JG1rn]

I have the Triggertech Diamind AR. It's worth the money. Truly is amazing

[@100forks]

Rise: I just put in my first aftermarket trigger. It was $99, shipped to my door. Super easy to install. What a pleasure to shoot. There was no creep and the trigger barely moved before firing. They say that to really shoot well, your trigger pull must be such that you don't know when it is going to fire. That is the way the Rise is. There is no thoughts of "Is it going to fire now", repeating in your brain before it actually fires. The first time I pulled the trigger, it just went off so smoothly that it surprised me and it kept surprising me until after about ten shots. My brain no longer had to think about it. Now all my concentration could center on just holding the sight picture. I have an out of the box, Armalite, AR-15 and I use a $20, off Ebay, Chinese, red dot scope. My shooting range is 91 yards long and with the Rise I am shooting 1" MOA, 5 round groups. This is from a standing, leaning against a tree, position. I thought, "Why would anyone pay $300 for a trigger when you can buy the Rise for $99. My friend, who builds his own AR's, was the one who told me to get the Rise. I have never fired a gun with a $300 trigger, so I can't say if the extra expense is worth it but I can say that the Rise is a lot of trigger for a little money. You do the math.

[@GatCat]

100forks I just got a ra rave sst curved trigger for $86 from tombstone.

[@100forks]

@@GatCat Good deal.

[@MrWzeljunior]

@@GatCat thanks for the heads up! Do u know if it's the gen 1 or gen 2? It doesn't say on the website.

[@AlexanderEddy]

Excellent and thorough video, thanks for sharing. I've got a TriggerTech on the way, I'm excited to try it out!

[@pappytspewsnthings4588]

Have you installed it yet and how do you like it? I still love mine!

[@AlexanderEddy]

@@pappytspewsnthings4588 I installed it and have played with it a bit, but didn't fire it since my range was shut down from the Wuhan virus. Canada just made AR15s a prohibited rifle too, which means I'll never get to fire it. :(

[@Kornholeeoo]

I have the Geissele SD-E on my DDM4 and I put the Larue MBT on my PSA PA-10. The Geissele is phenomenal and 2nd stage breaks at 1.25 lbs. The MBT is good but heavier, not a bad thing but when I got used to the SD-E, it’s hard to beat. Good review! New options to look at!

[@olmanoutlaw]

Great video and why in the Hell you don't have more subscribers is beyond me. I've been shooting for about 46 years, mainly long guns as in shotgun and bolt guns. Then moved onto handguns in '93 and never desired an AR until the Sandy Hook deal and any time there's a threat from the government to take away or tell me I can't do or own something that is Constitutional I revolt. Just like when Clinton said in the early 90s he was doing the 10 round magazine ban, I went the next day and bought an Italian Beretta 92FS in stainless and a shit ton of mags and I still have that super accurate handgun. But after Sandy Hook I spent months researching each individual spring, pin, and component of the AR platform and I built my own. It has stuff from Spike's, Seekins, Larue, PSA, BCM, Wilson Combat, Sprinco, B5 Systems, Geissele, Midwest Industries, Red Jacket, among others. I probably couldn't sell it for $700 even though I have twice that much in the build. I shoot with several friends and would choose mine over them all, not just because it's the research and my build, etc. just because it's way more perfect for me in my opinion. Anyways, what I'm getting at is you are very detailed and do a great job reviewing in this video and I wish you would make many more. Just wanted to take the time and personally thank you. God Bless and keep up the great work.

[@tripplewhipper]

if you want a great trigger but dont want to go for the most expensive option in this video triggertech also makes like 3 other cheaper offerings. the first is a set weight "combat" style trigger advertised at 5.5 lbs, the next is a competition style trigger set at 3.5 lbs, and finally like the diamond trigger is an adjustable/adaptable trigger that can be set between 2.5 - 5 lbs. Theyre all a fair margin cheaper than the diamond shown in this video but are still excellent, ive got the adjustable 2.5 - 5 pound trigger which is one step down in price from the diamond and i love it, ive tried the other ones and theyre great too just not adjustable.

[@wavular]

So which would you recommend if i was looking for an affordable 4 pound pull? With the true glass rod break?

[@tmorse1211]

Dam that diamond is what I'm looking for

[@mooredelira]

do an update on triggers for the AR15

[@apb2887]

The Triggertech Diamond is as good as it gets, my favorite trigger.

[@wavular]

yes they are good i have heard but here in canada expect to pay over $400.00

[@justins5923]

Mr McDonald worth it in my opinion. Why only a little less for something you’re not 100% satisfied with. I just ordered a diamond myself best purchase

[@darkwolf6139]

The diamond just seems to be the best. Plan on buying one for my current bulid.

[@chrisleach4245]

I have a rise 149 straight trigger so I was interested to see if you had any different results. I have not fired anything with it yet just measured the pull. I got 3.5 & 3.8 never more or less. The big surprise was the 2.6lbs from my wasr-10 spec trigger. That baby was born to run fast.

[@scott2228]

I have a few Geissele triggers. Love them. Thinking about Triggertech now. Price is down to $240.

[@dangelocoleman758]

Awesome video! Definitely looking at getting a Triggertech!

[@pappytspewsnthings4588]

You will not be disappointed

[@sf7708]

Good reviews! I love the devise you have that allows you to dry fire and test trigger pulls without the upper. Do they make one for PCC’s? If so, where can you buy one? Keep up the good work!

[@pappytspewsnthings4588]

I am not sure if one is made for PCCs. I got this one through Creedmoore years ago.

[@sf7708]

Pappy T's Pews n Things, thanks for the reply!

[@pipsqueak87]

Great video! Any tips on installing the antiwalk pins with the Hiperfire trigger? Hear on forums that they can affect the trigger feel and weight

[@thisguy6278]

Is that your magazine drop button all big and green?

[@salmaya9274]

Picked up a RA-140 for $73 shipped on 12-25-22

[@AllMetalReview]

I have a shorty 308 with a cmc 2.5lb. It has tightened my groups alot. Shot my friends ssp giessle very impressed. Was dead set on it. Until I saw videos of the triggertech. As of now do you still like the triggertech?

[@pappytspewsnthings4588]

I love it. I definitely have it set more for speed than precision stuff. It has such a short reset and light pull that my 3gun times have increased a lot. For precision and long range I still prefer the Giessle National Match, I actually have 2 now. It has a more pronounced second stage which is what I prefer in that scenario.

[@JohnAntikainen]

Nice job detailing your trigger setups.. as I'm getting ready to build my first AR-15, and am still up in the air about which trigger system to get. All I hear around the interwebz is nothing but good things about the Geissele triggers, and it's kinda peaked my interest in really getting one. Now, when it comes to AR's, I am a novice.. not going to sit here and lie about any of that. But should I even be considering buying a Geissele trigger for my first build? Or should I be thinking about something a little lower-end.. I'm thinking future-proofing for the build, as well. I don't want to go all out on my first build, but at the same time, I do want quality parts.. Just don't want to have to buy 'cheap' parts and regret it later.

[@jaychen8605]

Just get the mil. spec and upgrade later. BCM PNT or ALG QMS are good options for a beginner build

[@JohnAntikainen]

@@jaychen8605 I've built 2 since that post.. lol. Using LaRue MBT-1S in one, MBT-2S in the other. Started with a BCM in the first build, adding the LaRue's not long after.. which are really nice.

[@cayero]

Thank you so much for this video. If you don't mind me asking, have you ran into any reliability issues with the Triggertech AR Diamond?

[@pappytspewsnthings4588]

The only issue I have seen is that when I set the trigger to less than a pound it would fail to catch, giving me a dead trigger. Once you bring it up to the recommended minimum, mine is 1lb 4oz now, that issue disappeared. I just shot a 400 round match this weekend and had 0 issues.

[@cayero]

@@pappytspewsnthings4588 thanks. I was split between this and the AR Gold but I'm going to go with this one

[@leadcounsel4869]

As a helpful note, it would be very helpful in your videos if you label on the video each of the triggers, for someone jumping thru and not watching all 32 *very slow* minutes... Edited: Oh, I see you added hotlinks to the time stamps. A nice touch. Thanks! Thumbs up.

[@anthonyzuccaro1]

Is the triggertech reliable? Ever have any light strikes? And does it run good when dirty

[@bill7379]

Like buttered lard.. I’m stealing that

[@vincenttrujillo8674]

Does the G stand for Grit? Hiperfire looked excellent!

[@pappytspewsnthings4588]

Yeah, the hyperfire is awesome. Been running that trigger in 3Gun for about 4 years now with 0 issues. Probably around 40k rounds on it.

[@Coodreaux_Kong]

Did you get a new channel?

[@ronaldprovencher7570]

Failure to reset . That lip in front of the set screw was the problem after polishing it , It seem to be working fine . ( Rise Armament RA-140 SST )

[@KindredGh0st]

Hey! I'm not new to shooting, but I am new to the ar platform. Why wouldn't you use the ra140 in a duty rifle?

[@pappytspewsnthings4588]

It's not so much that I wouldn't recommend it for a duty build, just that I prefer the feel of the hyperfire.

[@paulhughes3961]

I have all of Rise Armament triggers and if you like the 140sst you really need to try the 535. It's there top trigger at about $235 and there is 0 creep and it moves less than 2 mm.

[@ayowser01]

Do you notice any difference between the 434 and the 535 trigger?

[@1mrgriz]

What is with the drum effect

[@Slimjimmagoo]

I feel like since I installed my Triggertech in my rifle when I charge the bolt carrier that high hammer feels like it’s creating more drag in the rifle. Has anyone else had this experience

[@mooredelira]

your microphone must be attached to your tabletop, because there's a boom every time you pound your hand/fingers on your tabletop

[@seankaminski3648]

Im a single stage trigger guy dont like even the littlest play in a trigger

[@pappytspewsnthings4588]

Everyone has a different preference. I would highly recommend the Hyperfire 24C. I always suggest that someone try before they buy, but that is my favorite single stage

[@ryanfay2503]

What size safety selector levers are those? Are you running the long/short combo? What do you think of the at gold trigger?

[@pappytspewsnthings4588]

For safeties I have moved most of my rifles over to the Radian Talon. I like that it has the long/short combo and the 45 degree throw. As for the AR Gold trigger, I have tried them out before and they are phenomenal. Very short reset, smoothe pull, clean break, and adjustable to your preferred weight. I would say that I like the Triggertech a little more, but that is because I am able to adjust the weight down lower.

[@blank7643]

How would you compare the rest on the TT Diamond to the Hyperfire Hipertouch Comp? I've heard that some people complain that the TT Diamond doesn't force your finger forward as much and is too light of a reset. What is your experience? Also between the two which do you find to be the most reliable?

[@pappytspewsnthings4588]

Good question and I should have addressed it in the vid, but let's be honest, the vid ended up too long anyway. The reset is very very light with almost no forward pressure. This hasn't been a problem for me because the reset is stupid short. I ran the hyperfire exclusively for 3 years before switching to this and have had no problems at all, but everyone is different. Based on feel, I would say that the TT feels like a shorter reset than the 24C, but I haven't actually measured it. I ran it on my gun at Benning last month and it handled the rain, dirt, and mud with no issues. I really appreciated the 2 stage aspect during the long range shots, and during the rapid fire portion it felt just like a single stage due to it being set to just over a pound. I even pulled a top 10 finish in Tac ops on the rifle only stage. Thank you for your question and let me know if you have any more!

[@hwillwright]

What comps DQ you for < 4lb trigger pull?

[@pappytspewsnthings4588]

CMP High Power, service rifle division

[@covarrubias736]

Just ordered my triggertech diamond for my ar (DDM4V7)

[@asdfghjk2933]

How do you like it so far? Have you had any issues with light primer strikes?

[@covarrubias736]

@@asdfghjk2933 I fucken love it!!! Noo light primers it's almost Impossible with a triggertech look at there designe no matter the pull weight the hammer will always hit the same

[@asdfghjk2933]

@@covarrubias736 Thanks man, that's awesome to hear. That was the one thing I was worried about. This thing is freaking expensive, but it seems to be one of the best triggers you can possibly get for an AR.

[@tomangton1053]

What brand are those grips you have on the first 2 lowers?

[@pappytspewsnthings4588]

Tactical Link PDW Grips. They are my favorite for non-prone shooting because they are far more vertical than most. And they feel amazing, super grippy.

[@000one]

I have adopted the HyperFire Hyper Touch 24C. No other Trigger can compare for the money. The “spaghetti” feeling??? I have never experienced that. Try moving the little red trigger adjustable add on or remove it. Yea yea yea Trigger Tech is as you said it, complicated. It Is only a bench trigger. Many experts say never take it into battle because it needs cleaning and care. Htperfire trigger system is a simple trigger designed to work under all conditions. second choice is a Geissele. Again not a drop in most people know nothing about, and don’t know how to fix or get the parts to repair. You may have to send it back and get it repaired. Dropins are finicky and for the bench. Been there done that. I don’t like things I cant fix or get parts to repair it. My Hypertouch triggers all pull around 3 pounds.All four. I don’t need a lighter pull than that. Like Jerry Miculek says: If your shooting is affected by its pull, you are not shooting fast enough.

[@davidcandito5276]

I’m building a 6.5 Grendel AR for PRS, I’ve been stuck on what trigger to put in for a little while now. I think I’ve about got my mind made up but I’m curious to have your opinion, what would you use for PRS competitions? Thanks.

[@pappytspewsnthings4588]

My PRS build is running a Geissele NM. For precision, I prefer a little weight to my 2 stage. That one I have set to just over 2.5lbs

[@davidcandito5276]

Pappy T's Pews n Things thank you!

[@timwillis6937]

I love the green

[@diabolus5522]

It's not grit on the 2 stage Geissele. For some people, referring incorrectly to the function of the mechanics of a trigger will invalidate everything you are talking about.

[@twissted1277]

I have a lotof triggers and one of my favorites is the Hipertouch special edition blue from Optic planet. I have the regular Hypertouch like your and another one that has the curved trigger but is also a 2.5-3 lbs The Blue is on another level. I also have 2 of the Timney Calvin Elite trigger they are 1.5 lbs. and there next level! I'll try a triggertech AR Diamond soon.

[@stephenaddair]

I'm going to get that rise armament trigger

[@HardHeadMilitary]

On the RA, i know it comes with the anti walk pins, but should i replace with a kns set that has side plates? I purchased the RA140 and the RA limited edition DTOM and a geissele g2s going in my ar10

[@pappytspewsnthings4588]

I have had zero issues with the RA pins. The only reason I would see changing is for looks or if you need it for piece of mind.

[@wavular]

Just curious, will these triggers such as the "Rise" have enough power behind them to properly ignite the primer on a Lr 308. such as my BCL 102?

[@pappytspewsnthings4588]

I have no personal experience with any .308s and these triggers. I do have a buddy that runs the Geissele SSA in his DPMS .308 with no issues

[@JackLassiter1776]

The answer is "yes", Rise has a line of .308 and 6.5 that have there triggers in them.

[@wavular]

@@pappytspewsnthings4588 ok thanks ,i'm trying to find the right aftermarket trigger set for my rifle as the milspec one is around 7 pounds pull and i'm looking for more around a 3.5 to a four pound pull..

[@Boon202]

Great video!

[@sever427]

What trigger would u use to win matches?

[@pappytspewsnthings4588]

Practice. Any of these are capable of winning a match, but it is good to come down to how much time you have put into your fundamentals. That said I am really happy with the trigger tech that I am running

[@sever427]

@@pappytspewsnthings4588 your right thanks. Practice equals shooting about how much ammo a month?

[@philipstrotherjr8842]

@@pappytspewsnthings4588 Could I use the triggertech diamond set between 2 and 3 lbs in my Shtf/self defense ar 15? I also use the rifle for precision target shooting as well. Or should I stay with my stock mil spec trigger?

[@asdfghjk2933]

@@philipstrotherjr8842Yes, it is a great choice. Many people will say that's too light for HD (let alone the 1.5lbs it can go down to), but as long as you practice good trigger discipline, you'll be fine.

[@pepelepewpewpew8573]

better late than never TriggerTech rules

[@GatCat]

Starts at 1:45

[@prone_wolf8871]

I have the geissele nm trigger it is excellent as you know... I also have the jp roller drop in also excellent...but its first stage is a true break from the get go first stage... The trigger tech is next on my list to try and your video showed it the best so far ....subbed

[@a.p.602]

nice aero precision lower

[@terrylabiche7772]

Hyperfire 100% Bombproof. Double spring rocks.

[@pappytspewsnthings4588]

I agree. I have around 30k rounds on mine, never cleaned, zero issues. Definitely a top tier trigger

[@terrylabiche7772]

@@pappytspewsnthings4588 yup. No cleaning on mine. 1000rnd on it. In my stag 10 build. It really is sandbox capable. Zero issues.

[@darryldekeyser]

The Hiperfire Competition absolutely does adjust the hammer strike. The hammer springs are what are swapped out to adjust the trigger weight. The only trigger I know of that has no correlation between trigger weight and hammer strength is the Triggertech.

[@pappytspewsnthings4588]

My apologies if I was unclear in the video. What I was trying to point out was that unlike other triggers where the hammer strike get lighter as the trigger does, with the hyperfire, the lighter the pull, the heavier the hammer strike. I actually tested this in a friend's shop when I got it. Thanks for pointing out my error.

[@JOHNNY_DID]

Bid daddy unlimited $230 for trigger tech just bought it earlier today

[@phamleroar7052]

Dude!! You are funny! I loved the video! And hope you do many more. Hit the subscribe button people.

[@tightspotpro6755]

geissele 3 stage trigger!!!

[@kingchristian8462]

I have diamond trigger would never buy any other trigger again

[@asdfghjk2933]

Think it's better than the hiperfire eclipse?

[@burtgummer7014]

Rise armament

[@davidsavage4741]

Are you afraid of putting your fingerprints on your own weapons?

[@pappytspewsnthings4588]

Nah, had just finished shooting and was doing stuff around the house in between triggers. Didn't feel like getting crap all over the house.

[@rossauce12]

Lol i wish geisseles were still 200 lol

[@shirolee]

Haha, heavy trigger...