What Zero do you use? Frank Proctor uses a 50 Zero at 10 yards, check it out!

[@bwat231]

I have been in the army as a cavalry scout for the last 9 years and have always used the 25/300 meter zero I decided to try this method recently and qualifying has never been easier or faster. I highly recommend this method it's golden. Great info good job and keep up the outstanding work

[@TriggerTimeTV]

+brandon watkins Frank is the man!

[@TriggerTimeTV]

Ryan that is definitely a question for Frank himself!

[@TriggerTimeTV]

man Frank is a ninja when it comes to that, I defer to his expertise.

[@willieluv]

brandon watkins can you do this with fixed sights? Thank you 🙏 for your service

[@KetemaHarris]

What weight bullet does he use? 1.9 inches can't work for every bullet?

[@brinkerro5059]

I was skeptical. But I gave it a try...and I am pretty dang happy with the results. Confirmed at 50 across multiple rifles. Happy to report that Frank's method works very well!

[@quickjumpingfoxes]

Excellent - Frank accomplishes more with 5 1/2 minutes than others with 20. I can take his instruction to the range!!

[@richjg3049]

Thank you! Easy explanation that a casual shooter can understand. Seems like a lot of others try to prove how much they know with technical speak. I wasn’t a Ranger but I like to shoot and hunt.

[@nobodyshome758]

Worked like a charm today when I shot at 50 yards. Dead on. Thank you!

[@TrueBlueYou]

What a nugget of gold!!!-I used a AR upper clamp platform (extremely stable) to do this-I also zeroed my 6 o’clock POSITION Surefire laser/light combo and my green dot MRO-thx

[@pickens1207]

Frank Proctor is an awesome guy , I've bought his "Proctor Sling" when he first started selling them and I rocked his Merca Flag decal , I emailed him and ask him how do I get a new one( before you could buy them) and he sent me 6 of them... Thanks Again Frank Proctor you Rock !!!

[@thegreenberetlife0191]

Sounds normal for him, Frank is a seriously good dude...

[@masgrey9608]

36 yard zero with my 14.5 is what works for me.. Nice video.

[@barryd.thomassr.9156]

I have sighted in All my Ar 15 s using this System, Fast and works Great! Thank You Frank

[@pickens1207]

Works like a champ !!! Thanks Frank !!!

[@TriggerTimeTV]

+Rodney Pickens he is a badass isnt he, take his class if you get the chance!

[@pickens1207]

I'd love too !!! He's awesome !!!

[@jcwebb540]

An ole' boy from Alabama shouldn't be able to talk so fast and cram so much great info into such a short video! Good stuff!

[@TriggerTimeTV]

JC Webb JC thanks for the feedback, Frank is fast aint he?

[@benworkman177]

My range is 30 minutes drive from my house so I did an initial setup on each of my rifles using a laserlite in the barrel and did the zero for all of my rifles ( 10 of those including the .22lr 's , AR9, and 30 carbine and the AK and the M4.) at 10 yards at dusk at the house in the back yard. This got me on paper at 10 yards in all calibers, and I adjusted then using ammunition and finally at 50 yards. This additional step with the laser lite before I went to the range probably saved me a lot of frustration and ammunition.

[@jeffpraterJSF]

Hahhaha this just saved me too. Only shot 2 groups to zero because I wasted 10 rounds holding on each side until I actually hit paper zeroing another rifle yesterday

[@michaellatham1971]

Different calibers will have different ballistics. This was for .223.

[@OMGWUNSIU]

Nice, gonna try this at my local indoor range and see what happens... thanks for sharing this info

[@pointman73]

This really is a fantastic way to get your zero. After learning this a few years ago, I've been zeroing clients' guns and all of mine with it.

[@robertmurray8946]

Thank you for this post,zero in 3 rifles in 15 mins.

[@TriggerTimeTV]

+Robert Murray lol man it is fast!

[@STRunnerNC]

To preemptively adjust to achieve this result, at home, before range time, try this. It has worked numerous times for me. Without obstructing the barrel bore, carefully level & support the upper aiming at a wall 10 yds away. Print a 3.8" diameter circle with dissecting crosshairs (vert. & hor. lines) that extend to edges of paper. Precisely level paper on wall using crosshairs and affix so circle is dead center inside barrel bore, carefully compensating for parallax. When all is set, adjust point of aim where vertical line dissects top edge of circle. If you are painstaking with this, you should be very close at the range. Also works great for adjusting lasers and verifying accuracy of cartridge type laser boresights.

[@William0zero0]

Great information!

[@michaellatham1971]

That makes a lot of sense. Will remember this trick

[@natedoglara]

Thanks for the video. I am going to give this a try.

[@bushmasterkiwi]

M16 ,25 metre battle zero , iron sights, 1inch (25mm) below point of aim. 100 metre 3 inch(75 mm) above point of aim , 300 metre 0.0 point of aim equals impact point . (all from 25 metre battle zero ) Royal New Zealand Infantry Regiment

[@geraldwest3428]

Wished I had known this 40 years ago, works great. Thank you!

[@charlesludwig9173]

Know this: any rifle fired at an angle greater than horizontal will produce a trajectory where the line of sight and bullet path intersect twice and thus from a ballistics app a shooter can appraise any notion for what sight-in distance produces the most desirable zero distance. Remember too that the zero distance is a placeholder. To hit to a desired point on a mark at less or greater distance than zero distance learn how to range distance to target and adjust the sight or hold to needed amount from the zero distance as ballistics app identifies. For me, shooting in US Service Rifle Competition I need to know sight come ups for 200, 300, 500, 600, and 1000 yards from an initial sight zeroed for 100 yards. One more thing, if you have the mil spec detachable carry handle sight or MaTech sight on your AR15A4 or M4 you must sight-in to 25 meters if you want a bullet drop compensation function from the sight. Also, do not adjust elevation wheel for a so called improved zero to permit exacting hits at 100 yards since that adjustment will prevent the sight from having a bullet drop compensation function. Instead hold about 3 inches low on 100 yard targets.

[@TautologyTechSystems]

The main issue with this method is optic height. The guy who made those targets was using an optic with a 2.5 inch optic height. That's the measurement from the center of your bore to the center of your optic and varies greatly from optic to optic so you need to either measure it or check the specs. This measurement is critical for this method of zeroing to work. For instance my optic has a height of 2.875 inches. So if you plug that number into the same equation that was used to come up with that target your POI actually needs to be 2.24 inches low (not 1.9)from POA to equal a 50 yard zero. So if I use that target I would actually be .34 inches off at 10 yards, 1.7 inches off at 50 yards, 6.8 inches off at 200 yards and more than 10 inches off at 300. Those targets are good for getting you close but you have to take into consideration the specs of your rifle if you want it dead on balls accurate. Of course you could just shoot at 50 yards and spare yourself all the math and probable imprecision due to tolerance stack.

[@Kimchi_Mike]

curious where I can find said equation? I'm running an EOTECH with a unity riser, and I'm trying to sort my POA/POI at 10yd for said 50yd zero.

[@Kimchi_Mike]

curious where I can find said equation? I'm running an EOTECH with a unity riser, and I'm trying to sort my POA/POI at 10yd for said 50yd zero.

[@toddk1377]

I use to do the 50 yard zero, now I go with the 36 yard zero. It's better imo as it eliminates even more so of hold overs out to 300 yards.

[@sugarland77478]

You must have a magnifier because i can't see my 556 bullet holes at 25yards much less 36yard.

[@martinlopez8833]

@sugarland77478 bro you must need some glasses if you can’t see your hole at 25 lol but that 36 does work to an extent

[@RB-tx4mn]

@@sugarland77478 I have to wear reading glasses and can still see my holes at the 25.

[@Zionsol777]

for any doubters this is absolutely correct if you're a target range is 0 - 300 yards then 50 yard zero is correct and this is a great way to be able to obtain it quickly. caliber of your AR will affect correct distance just to make that point

[@deetrag866]

Thanks for the great video. Very helpful. The 50\10yd zero is awesome with my red dot and my aging eyes seeing the target and bullet hits at 10 yards is easy. I just had to make an adjustment since my finger is bigger : ) .

[@axelec]

You look so comfortable on those rocks !

[@fatherdyme]

That was awesome! Makes so much sense. Thanks

[@mikeamerica4301]

Vetted and tested this at our range yesterday! Good to go and saved $$ not tossing more rounds down range using the 10yard theory. Then confirmed it at 50. Good stuff thanks again Frank. Fyi Custom Gun Rails said they would be more than happy to get those logos going for you..take care and "Let it Do!"!

[@TriggerTimeTV]

Frank has great content! thanks for the feedback

[@mikeamerica4301]

I zeroed at 10 yards then confirmed it at 50.

[@johnmanson7799]

Works Perfect every time!!!!!

[@COMB0RICO]

This is really smart! Thanks from Texas.

[@TriggerTimeTV]

+COMB0RICO thanks for the feedback from Mississippi!

[@denisdegamon8224]

Spot on brother.

[@AnthonyEspositoTheStallion]

So at 10 yds bullet should hit (point of impact) 1.9" low of point of aim !! Right ?? am i understanding that correctly ??

[@dougcruz9267]

Awesome tips. Thank you!

[@RhinoCable]

Thanks for the great tip. Keep up the good work.

[@kentuckyjustice1408]

Even 2 1/2 years later, this is some *solid* info. It's a good thing KZbin is trying to do away with these nasty gun videos.

[@Jazzman-bj9fq]

Cool vid, glad I found it! I see a few people asking if this technique can be used for different barrel lengths and/or different weapon systems. What people need to realize is that when you use ballistics software or tables, you have to know your muzzle velocity and bullet weight to plug in for the trajectory plot. The shooter in the vid is using the AR15 system, 5.56mm, not sure about the barrel length and bullet weights, etc. You can't use this technique for other weapons systems and get the same result, i.e. 7.62x39mm or others... For that matter, you can't expect necessarily the same trajectory plot on a super short AR15 barrel, although at short ranges you might not experience much variance in bullet strikes. To be scientific about it as they did in this video, you need your bullet weight and muzzle velocity (taken with a chronograph on site) to be able to plot potential trajectories to find what your rifle's 'sweet spot' zero will be like in this video. As a simple example, 5.56mm Nato ammo with a weight of 77 gr travelling at 2750 fps is DEFINITELY going to have a different trajectory than a 7.62x39mm cartridge at 124 gr, travelling at 2350 fps... A heavier, slower rock is going to drop MUCH quicker at distance than the lighter, faster rock.

[@tp-mh2ji]

Thanks Frank!

[@kathryntruscott6351]

It's called :maximum point blank range", which of course varies with the intended target size. Every hunter does this so that sight changes or 'hold over' is not needed. With a 10" target (average size of a deer's 'boiler room') with, say, a .308 and most popular hunting cartridges, it comes out at about 250 yards. Of course allowance has to be made for the distance that line of sight is above the bore to work out when the projectile first rises above line of sight. Most rifles with decent ballistics can be zeroed this way so a 'centre' hold will always result in an effective hit. This guy is on to it... Once it's done you can just point and shoot....

[@dukeman7595]

I liked the info. you gave about the 10" boiler room vitals, excellent point.

[@ajamico]

36 yard zero for the win

[@lycol66]

thanks man, that great way to save money and time.

[@sinqros]

I like the 50 yard BZO, and the 300 yard Marine corps zero, the 50 let’s you hit POA point of impact at 300 yards out, and your first hold over at 400 yards..

[@samsammy6210]

67 Army m-14 not new, just lost and forgotten . Remember inverted notched target. One part of the notch for 16 other part was 14. Airborne !

[@sakils2]

I fucking love Frank. Dude is awesome!

[@black_rifle_veteran]

I stick with my 36 yard combat zero

[@toddjenest3212]

Who the hell has a 10 yard range? 😳 I currently use the 50/200, but I think I'm going to try the Navy SEAL 36 yard zero for my AR.

[@Nighthawkaviator]

i need to find this same set up for 300 blackout..

[@KJ7SIR]

You can take the time to get a good 50 yd zero, then see POA & POI at any range. Point blank is always sight over bore, 2.9” low, and 50 yds is zero. So you will see where it hits at 10yd and 25yd . And record the hieght.

[@JohnDoe-zg6fn]

Ingenious. 👍👍

[@joycethompson1361]

We zeroed out M14's at 10 yards in the army .

[@phx4closureman]

4:05 serious tan going on there 😆😆😆😆

[@NewlyOutdoors]

Him and Grand Thumb give almost the same vibe

[@timrobinson6573]

This is complete over complicated BS. I've been shooting iron sights for 2 decades and red dots for about 9 years and I can zero my rifles and hit targets accurately out to 100 yards without magnification. He is a frivilous man.

[@mosin9105]

On my way to the range. Thanks!

[@TrueBlueYou]

Theoretically, this could be done at 10 feet correct?

[@irafowlerjr.7492]

Helpful, thanks

[@MannyScoot]

The best zero for me happens to be 36 yard zero...... Using a Eotech XPS 2-2 and a Trijicon (3X) magnifier I can hit a 5" target from 20 yards to 150 yards accurately !

[@TheJaxsonjack]

Newer shooter here ... I do have 50 yards of distance to work on siting my rifle, so: "36 Yard Zero" is simply setting up ones' target at 36 yards and zeroing the rifle at that distance? Thanks in advance.

[@delta3two]

22 OCT 23: I just used it with a 14.5" 5.56mm (w/77 grainers). it wasn't perfect for 50 yds/mtrs. Needed tweaking. But I give it A+ for innovation, time saved and rounds needed to be GtG @ 50 yds/mtrs.

[@wellregulated8725]

Need to get a class done in Alabama soon!

[@Citizen_0_5]

This is really interesting.

[@cntryboygeetar]

To everyone who wants to do a 7 yard zero like lets say zero in your house with bore laser ect. first before you go to range. You could do this same principle at 2.1 inch @ 7 yards, which in turn is 1.9 inch @ 10 yards. G1 Ballistic Coefficient = 0.246, Muzzle Velocity = 3165, Bullet Weight = 55 grain, Sight height 2.5 inches. Zero @ 50 yards. To those that are horrible at math and don't know how to get tenths/ decimals take the decimal and multiply by 16. example 2.1" take decimal .1 x 16= 1.6 now round that to 2. So that's 2 16ths which is on your measuring tape or simplified to 1/8th. So, then put that in place of the decimal with original number 2.1 = 2 and 2/16 or 2 and 1/8th this is very close to tenths. On the 10 yard zero he uses 1.9 take .9 and x's by 16 = 14.4 round that to 14 and the answer will be 1 and 14/16 or 1 and 7/8th. If you want it to be 100 percent accurate and not 99 percent print this decimal ruler and be sure to turn shrink to print off. printable-ruler.net/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/ruler-12in-inches-decimal-Letter-transparent.pdf I hope I helped someone in the mean time happy shooting.

[@rogerrice8194]

One thing not mentioned is the effect on the outcome based on the ammunition used. M193? M855? MK262 77g? I duplicated Frank's technique, and the M193 and MK262 printed exactly the same point of impact @ 10yds. I will move to 50 yds and see if anything changes.

[@fallout1116]

There's only about 2" of POI difference between 55gr and 62gr even at 300 yards (depending on barrel twist rates and assuming same barrel length, naturally).

[@jrbullock]

if anyone wants to check if the 1.9 inches is correct for your gun and sight. download the app strelok and punch in all the information and itll tell you the exact measurements so you know if this printout works for you or if you need to change and adjust it a bit. for the sight over bore just take a ruler and measure from the middle of your sight to the middle of your barrel and use that number in the app info. or if you have an a2 front post iron sight and you are using a absolute cowitness mount then just measure from the middle of the barrel to the top of the middle post on the sight and thatll give you the correct inches to plug in but if you have that then you most likely will be able to use the paper print out for 1.9 inches but the exact is like 1.93

[@LtThompsonCS]

Gee if Jack Torrence had a brain, he'd have realized that not everyone has the facilities to shoot past 50 yards, let alone 25 yards.

[@semperhigh0311]

I prefer the 36 yard bzo

[@Colescoffin_13]

Oorah!

[@semperhigh0311]

ColesCoffin_13 YYYUUUUUTTTTT

[@nathanjones2106]

Rahhhhh brothers

[@harrisonreed8718]

How about doing a proper 25M "zero", with confirmation and actual zero at 300M, if possible? If you're using standard BUIS or old school carry handle irons. Then just turn the knob to "200M". Then, you know, the elevation knob will actually work. If it's a red dot, a 50/~225M zero is just fine. Yards only makes sense if you're on a mildot scope. Which the Eotech is not.

[@rallyrats]

"Poop in poop out" 😂

[@morninglattes]

Applied this to a 100 yard zero. Works great, and saves so much time walking 100 yards there and back if you don't have a spotting scope to check your targets. Once again Frank nails it by applying common sense methods to training.

[@1964JEDAGI]

I'll stick with my 100yard 1.5" high. I have some left right issues with close range zeroes. Many time being off left and right doesn't show up well at 10 yards.

[@michaellatham1971]

Lot of wisdom with confirming short zeros at distance. I don’t think he meant good to go at all ranges. Pursuing zero is a never ending process.

[@1964JEDAGI]

@@michaellatham1971 well you know I don't do much long range shooting while hunting. My rifle with a 1.5" high @ 100 is pretty much dead in at 200 and still well in the kill zone @ 300. If I'm shooting at a deer at 300 I better have a good prop. The only times I might shoot farther than that is pot shots at coyotes or pigs.

[@michaellatham1971]

@@1964JEDAGI Sounds like you are good to go with that confirmed accuracy at distance.

[@joycethompson1361]

Put a circle the size of a bullet hole on paper. SIGHT down the bore to the circle. Now adjust the crosshairs to intersect the circle. Zeroed without a single shot. Shoot one to test!

[@williamgaines9784]

Wrong. You have boresighted only. That means the sights and the bore align at that point. The path of the projectile is not a straight line. So any range before or after that point the bullet will be higher or lower, AND if the angle of the bore was level with the dot on the target EVERY shot will be lower. The projectile falls from the moment it leaves the end of the barrel. The sight offset is important because that is what determines the angle of the bore in relation to the line of sight. As only briefly touched on in the video, his red dot had a 2.5 inch offset, which is similar to standard iron sights on an AR-15 type rifle. If one uses multiple sighting systems (scope, canted buis or red dot, or an optic on top of an optic) the offset of the particular sighting system must be known to properly get battle/maximum point blank zeros for each sight. The ballistics of the ammunition must also be known for this. If the offsets or the ammunition ballistics are different each sight with have a different zero and a different maximum point blank range. The military uses uniform ammunition and uniform sighting systems which makes such "one and done" settings possible and easy. The calculators can only give proper calculations if they get proper inputs. Know your offset, know your ammunitions' velocities, projectile weights, and ballistic coefficients, plus the size of your intended target, and you can get good point blank zeros for every weapon/sight&load combination you use.

[@joycethompson1361]

@@williamgaines9784 Thank you for your input.

[@cmillerphotos]

10 yards? Heck! I can zero my AR in my apartment!! Doh! :-)

[@aaronholloway2]

Have you heard of the new 36/300 zero? I say new, it's new to me! I've heard good things about it. I've used the 50/200 zero for years now but sources have said that the 36/300 is better. What do you think?

[@goosecouple]

What caliber?

[@TravisCompton-q4f]

What if my iron sights aren’t at 2.5” above my center of bore?

[@joeycharron]

2.5” low at 1 yard is an option

[@ronaldwilson3503]

Seems OK for a starting point but doesn't seem like it would reveal windage at such a close range. I would definitely still want to follow up with at least 100yrd follow up.

[@donaldswanson5170]

i dig it.

[@libra7624]

the best method is first identify the size of the kill zone, then the max distance you want to hit the kill zone, the pick the flattest trajectory that hits the most kill zone targets out to your chosen distance, i myself perfer a no hold over trajectory for the simple reason that front sight can block view of where you need to hold, especially at long ranges but what really matters is what ever zero you choose its if you hit your kill zone wether you hold under or over knowing where to hold to hit your kill zone, shooting air rifles also for most of my life having a dozen different velocities, over 100 different pellets with different ogives and profiles and over 25 different grain weights, we air gunners know trajectory well because we have to, we have much more drop, lots of wind drift, we make more ballistic calculations for targets of many sizes, and other variables to deal with far more then center fire rifles wich gives us vast experience because we shoot alot being the cost is cheaper to do more tests, at the end of the day its all about hitting your kill zone out to your prefered distance despite your zero, if kill zone target gets hit every time with using more then one sight in then it doesnt matter, its all about making hits on kill zone never missing any out to your disired distance you choose, combat, plinking, competition and even extreme long range are all different from each other. in a imperfect world you can have flat shooting with out hold over nor long range shooting with out hold under, some where in a trajectory path you will have hold under and hold over depending on distance

[@geraldwest3428]

can you do this same zero technique with a .308 or any rifle like a .22 LR? Thanks men!

[@samdunston6296]

Wow just came in with 2 rifles zeroed in also confirmed @ 50 and 100......

[@JohnnyBoyCali]

Sam Dunston Did you mean 50 and 200? Because with a 50 yeard zero it should be zero at 200 also.

[@samdunston6296]

Yes 200...sorry...lol

[@lesliewoinarowicz7018]

225 to be precise.

[@gunnerjoe53]

I wonder how much difference a 3" sight over bore would make in this calc?

[@fallout1116]

You'd need to be even lower at 10yards for a 50/200 zero. By about another .5".

[@tom_olofsson]

If I get 2 rounds touching I am not just zeroed I am good for the day. Go out on a high note.

[@bcgunner9324]

No, the tightest set of groups is the 100 yard zero. The 50 has quite the spread.

[@parmesan9761]

Please correct me if I'm wrong if I understand you. If I sight in my scope at 10 yards for a Target at 25 yards away my scope sight should be set on the center bullseye. And the gun should be adjusted to shooting 11/16 from the bullseye down correct?

[@colincarroll1635]

I’m in love with that hand guard where can I get one

[@aahhronismyname8068]

Troy industries. Alpha i think

[@senseisambo]

I have a black one I just took off that I want to sell if you’re interested 15” Troy Alpha

[@jasonk9592]

Do you need lower 1/3 or absolute co witness for this to work?

[@bigcws4522]

So basically at 10 yd dead on with your rifle and you hold point of impact down 1.9 in then at 50 yards you should be zeroed out that's what I'm collecting here. Please someone correct me if I'm not right and thanks.

[@bigcws4522]

Also would you adjust down 1.9 at your 10 yd 0 to be dead on at 50 I guess that's better way to put it.??

[@delta3two]

After using the 10 yd zero I found my rounds 12 mils low. Azimuth 4 mils off. Had to tweak the 50 yd/mtr zero. Six rounds corrected azimuth and elevation. i will use this 10 yard technique again.

[@anthonymartinez4780]

I'm lucky enough to have a 700 yard range 5 minutes away so I just zero for 100

[@d7dun1010]

This worked very well with very few rounds with a new AR15 in .223. Does this method translate well with AR10 in .308? If not, what changes have to be made?

[@PRblaze]

What sling is being used in this video? And it is a QD sling or a regular strap sling? Looks like a QD to me, but I want to make sure. Cause i want it.

[@King.of.Sparta]

Not sure what sling this is but check out the Vickers Sling. My favorite.

[@JerrBearTactical]

The sling he is using can be purchased from his website. It's of his own design.frankproctorperformancegear.com/

[@johngrammatis]

When measuring for 10 yds do you measure from red dot, ejection port or end of barrel to the target.

[@jcc713]

will this be true if I am zeroing a .300 blackout rifle? I appreciate the feedback and the video...learn something new everyday. regards

[@EvendimataE]

the 1.9 below is for an eotech .....how about for regular a post sight?

[@113tidbits]

Will keep this tip in mind when I hit the range with the AK..woohoo!

[@bucket415]

Ballistics are different with 556 than 762

[@GaragebuiltOriginal]

tonygreene113 ak likes 25yds zero for effective 200m zero

[@jasontipton8430]

I use the military zero which is what i like to call the right way..its amazing how complicated people try to make shit keep it simple stupid 25/300 meter zero is point of aim 300 meter 3.5 high at 100, 8 inches high at 200, dead on at 300 no better zero than that if your cometition zero at 50 if not do it the right way. If your shooting an 8 inch target at 200 hold half width below simple. If your in combat aim center mass out to 400 its a kill.

[@Chaos_Murakumo]

here in 2021, just wondering how you adjust for red dot height, just incase it has a riser etc

[@kenkoh1724]

On my AR15, how many clicks on my windage and elevation using his 10 yard zero? I mean what does each click represent for that target?

[@mattbradford1135]

Can you please tell me if this method works with a 22 LR rifle and 357 magnum rifle? I am new to shooting and having a difficult time getting a solid zero. Enjoyed your video very much. Thank you in advance for your response.

[@justsmy5677]

Matt Bradford this method works for different calibers, but you have to use/apply the ballistics for .22LR or 357. Keep in mind that .22LR will start to drop a lot quicker than 5.56 so what Frank said about 200+ yards will not apply (hitting the target without "holding over" the target). But this concept applies as long as you understand your rounds ballistics and apply common sense about where you want to zero your rifle based on caliber and your shooting objective, There are several good ballistics apps out there.

[@henry.duck.3924]

If I were to use a 25 meter zero target at 50 yards what zero would that be?

[@phetlucky9175]

how about with magnify scope at 10 yards same point of aim same point of impact?

[@drewthesalesmanbeman6315]

What would zero need to be to have say a + or - 3 or 4 inch impact from 50-200?

[@JohnDoe-zb7dz]

What if you will never shoot your rifle past 25 yards?? (home defense) Average home senerio I’d guess is about 13 yards.

[@justsmy5677]

John Doe then zero your rifle for 15 yards. Consider an AR pistol, which is much easier to handle indoors.

[@nono559]

How many clicks would you turn your red dot or scope at 10 yards for example if your optics are 1/4” click?

[@DriftlessDrifter]

36 yard zero is best