Knockoffs vs. HORL Rolling Knife Sharpener

[@TriggTube]

UPDATE: Since posting this video, HORL released a new version of the Cruise with both 20 and 15 degree angles. It's also cheaper than the Tumbler at the moment of this comment, so check that out if you're interested in a solid mid-range option. In my opinion, this new version is the best value out there, because it performs just like the HORL 2, but without the ability to upgrade the discs to whetstones, which isn't totally necessary for basic home use. HORL 3 Cruise - www.tkqlhce.com/click-101030958-16966803

[@Hellamoody]

Thanks for the update bruv

[@Satfjklmn]

thanks fro the video. i have only one little thing to say the saturation is a little bit low

[@jojojojojojojojojojojojob]

its not that whetstone doesnt work. its a skill issue. these rolling sharpeners make it easy for everyone.

[@Hellamoody]

@@jojojojojojojojojojojojob very true, he did mention that in the video as well

[@joeidaho5938]

The actual big downside of a rolling knife sharpener....is that it will not necessarily fix any chip problems on a knife. It does not guarantee flatness of the sharpening surface...as a whetstone does. Not nearly as bad as a pull-through sharpener......but it's a compromised system. Also, if it's rolling, it'is going over the knife apex wth 2 different directions constantly. That also compromises knife sharpness. In my opinion, it's a system for amateurs who don't want to develop the real discipline necessary to sharpen a knife well.

[@lukasfugner7778]

One note on the sharpeners lasting longer than whetstones, thats true for the traditional whetstones however there are also diamond based whetstones which do not have the issues as traditional whetstones. You do however still need to learn to sharpen with them.

[@TriggTube]

True. I'd imagine that's the same grit as the rolling sharpeners with diamond discs. 👍👍

[@ironfoot1938]

Also most splash & go ceramic bonded stones last very long. They will need some flattening after some time, but wear much slower than weakly bonded stones.

[@attila5221]

they might last longer than those cheap chinese shitstones, but a shappro will last practically forever(well, all the shaptons minus the 120, 220, 320 grits) and a shapton rockstar will outlast your grandkids. Diamond plates last a while, or they wear out in a few weeks if they're shit, resin bonded diamonds will last practically forever, metalic/vitrified bond diamonds/cbn will outlast your bloodline. all that said, it takes a bit to learn how to sharpen on whetstones, but outside of maybe a fixed angle system it gets you the sharpest knives. Fixed angle systems also have limitations where whetstones do not.

[@tonyhuynhxe1974]

Sharpening isn’t that hard to learn. And this gimmick gadget can’t do what a whetstone does thinning of the knife

[@DanielJacksonisbiggerinside]

The diamond grit (especially on a cheap stone) doesn't last forever. If you only sharpen one per month, maybe the low startup cost is worth it (especially if you keep the worn diamond plate for a mid-step or polishing step.) but if you're using a stone enough that you need to flatten a waterstone... Then you're wearing out a diamond stone and need to replace it.

[@Asgar1205]

I‘ve been using the Horl 2 for about 4 years and it stills works as well as it did on day one. Absolutely no regrets with my purchase

[@TriggTube]

Great to hear. That's the rate mine is aging at too... not at all. Haha

[@raffettoman]

Could you validate this? Did you buy it right from HORL themselves?

[@Asgar1205]

@@raffettoman Validate? no, i made a youtube comment stating my experience, take it or leave it xD

[@SaifulIslamShudipto]

You didn’t have to replace the disks?

[@WZNGPNDA]

I’ve seen tumbler brand ads for years and only a few days ago did I see one for horl. Glad I hesitated and read all the reviews. Now I just need to save for one.

[@plotson]

If you'we watched tumbler ads on tiktok/youtube shorts where the guy was showing off the sharpening skills using this sharp tester thing, they were also rigged as the guy was using the wrong technique to make the score look better after sharpening, glad you didn't fall for the cash grab!

[@TriggTube]

Yeah. I hope this video reaches more people before it's too late. Sadly I'm not going to be spending any marketing budget on reach. Thanks for the comment. That helps spread the word.

[@WZNGPNDA]

@@TriggTube No, thank you for all you do on this channel. Watching your vids has taught me so much about the kitchen.

[@boalberto5160]

Be smart and buy a real sharpening set instead of this junk, Landsky are amazing!

[@LorenzoRodriguez-c4c]

@@boalberto5160 its an option for people that dont want to learn to use a landsky puck or whetstone but i do prefer whetstones over these

[@charblee]

Thank you for this video. Tumbler blasted the internet with ads. I thought they were the “original”. I’m glad I didn’t waste my money.

[@TriggTube]

Glad I could help!

[@NortOfficial]

I've been wanting (and looking) for this exact video for months, looking into getting a HORL after seeing all those TUMBLER ads everywhere. The Internet Never Lies, right? Thank you!

[@TriggTube]

Yeah... well it's like they say... either you spend money on the quality of the product or on the marketing of it. I saw the endless ads too, but after testing the tumbler, I'd have to say that they clearly focused more on ads than product.

[@NortOfficial]

@@TriggTube If enough people pay for stuff sold high and made cheap, there is more money for ads... and repeat

[@TriggTube]

@@NortOfficial A truly vicious and common cycle

[@DerapokalyptischeDrahteselreit]

​@@NortOfficialI would rather buy a diamond stone, because you can get a realy good one for like half the money. If you have a bendy knife it can become very dificult to sharpen the Tips of knives with rolling scharpeners

[@DerapokalyptischeDrahteselreit]

​@@TriggTubeI think the reason why you couldnt learn to sharpen knifes with wettstones is, that they do not remove material nearly as fast as diamond stones. For me a big double sidet (around 400 and 1000 grid) diamond stone works much better than contraptions like in this video

[@daahn_kitchen]

Finally, an honest review. I have used wet stone for nearly 6 years, but was still interested in this concept of rolling sharpener. While researching, however, I have discovered that numerous youtubers and bloggers promoted the knock-off version more than the original one(I am not going to mention some specific names, but some of them have over 2 million subscribers). Also, the tests that they so have "conducted" were mostly hiding the downside of those products on purpose. I know that they did it on purpose, because they were using the loopholes of measuring instruments that I know so well about. I am glad that there is finally a honset review about these products. God bless you.

[@TriggTube]

Thanks. It helps and hurts that I don't have the pressure gauges and macro lenses to test everything SUPER scientifically. I also thought the internet was missing a "does it work or not?" test. With hundreds of fakes out there, I'm sure there may be some that also work, but from what I ordered... it was pretty obvious that quality control isn't their priority. 👍👍

[@daahn_kitchen]

@@TriggTube legit true. No wonder why ceramic stones and dimond stones dominate the premium market.

[@TheElusiveNoggie]

@@TriggTube I personally really prefer the cut a carrot method you used. I have been wondering about these for a while but most comments I find just keep saying to learn a wet stone and how they could never get as good as a wet stone and so on. I don't need the absolute pristine perfect edge as a home cook. I just want it to be sharp enough to make my job easier and safer without all the extra effort of learning the wet stone.

[@airvermin2226]

Thank you! After buying a horl2 I thought I had paid too much seeing all the other makes and their adds but so glad I made the correct purchase for a change.

[@revanthjayakumarkannan137]

Your the best youtuber I've seen since shorts were released, and your voice and the way you explain things patiently, and calmly just gives you that Bob Ross kind of feeling. The way your content is organized with the partitions and boundaries for each and everything is just amazing. So just wanted to say thank you for the absolutely amazing content

[@KaleTheTinkerer]

You’re a legend for this, I’ve been considering buying one for ages now and I now know which one to actually buy, thanks a ton!

[@TriggTube]

You're welcome. 👍

[@itsSmiv]

This is the video I've needed for so long. I've been skeptical of these rolling sharpeners ever since I saw them, and held off buying one because of that. Good to know that the skepticism was warrented, but I'm even more glad that one of them actually works. I'll definitely be getting a Horl sharpener. Thank you so much for this video!

[@TriggTube]

Yeah. My skepticism became curiosity. And my curiosity became a video. Glad it helped. 👍

[@ThePirateburke86]

I've heard from multiple people that the Tumblr stops rolling after a few uses. thanks for this video. I've been looking at getting a rolling sharpener because I too am terrible with a wet stone

[@TriggTube]

Yeah. I'd seen other videos, but it was another thing to test myself. 👍👍

[@FinnyJake12]

I was thinking on buying a whetstone, but the algorithm brought me here, and I'm so grateful for that. Not only I know now about the Horl sharpener, but I have a whole new channel to binge. Keep it up!

[@TriggTube]

Wow! Thanks to the algorithm! Glad you found me and liked the video. 👍

[@MannyGraal]

Thank you so much for this video, i've been wanting to buy one of these, but always hesitated do to the price, I did get a lot of tumbler ads even some youtubers suggesting it, but i'm glad i waited and stumbled upon this video.

[@TriggTube]

Yeah. It JUST came out, but check out the HORL 3 Cruise. I didn't have it when I made this video, but HORL saw this video and sent it over. It's their NEW model, cheaper than tumbler, HORL quality, and with TWO sharpening angles. If anyone buys the tumbler after this, I'm sorry for them. (I linked it in the description of this video if you want to check it out) 👍

[@mvtx87]

Cannot overstate how much I appreciated this video. Subscribed!

[@audiojunk1337]

Speaking of sharp things, this video just kept me ON EDGE and really helped CUT through the noise of these rolling sharpeners. Really got to the POINT which i appreciated. Thanks for the good work!

[@TriggTube]

Amazingly SHARP wit. 😜

[@audiojunk1337]

@@TriggTube I really try. Great video!

[@normannisbet1213]

Well aren’t you the cunning linguist? 😅👍🏻

[@txxredtache]

Saved up for a Horl, glad i did. Excellent product, thanks for the heads up :)

[@neglectedloves]

There's a saying in Germany where the Horl comes from: if you buy cheap, you buy twice... so there you go 🤓 Great and informative video 🙌🏻

[@GameFuMaster]

more like "at least twice"

[@meandemeanor9034]

I grabbed an Amazon choice one for £30 a year ago and I've only just replaced it. As a professional chef, my knives get a lot of use, so I was impressed. Especially as I expected it to not even work. maybe I will purchase a horl one day, but for the price difference, it's an easier route for the £30 per year sharpener.

[@DirtyDingusMcGee]

Good to know, thanks.

[@Bravadosjebsimbahsm]

It’s good that there are products like this to make life easier. I’m not great at sharpening with a whetstone but I love doing it and taking my time and getting it dialed in.

[@BelovedNL]

That Taylor Swift meme was perfectly executed! 😂

[@TriggTube]

Haha. I had to. 😜

[@TheClintonsimmons]

Inmissssedit. What was it.. for my friend? Great video. Keep it ip

[@philjan23]

​@@TriggTube🥰❤🥰❤🥰❤🥰❤🥰❤🥰❤🥰❤

[@PeterEnis69]

@@TheClintonsimmons around 2:00

[@frankfusselman]

I love honest and solid review videos like this. Very well done and I've been wanting a rolling sharpener, and this helped ease my skepticism. Guess I'll have to save up or maybe ask for it for Christmas 😅. Thanks again and God Bless you and yours!

[@Voodoo13579]

Even without the sound, just watching the knife dull gives me chills!

[@TriggTube]

Yeah. I still hear it with my eyes closed.

[@DaBudaa1]

Phew, I almost bought a Tumbler. I'm definitely going to consider HORL now.

[@BloPsy_Actual]

Yay! A video about the original and the fakes. Tumbler had a very aggressive video campaign on KZbin, and I am honestly sad that people bought that cheap knockoff instead of the actual HORL, which is fantastic.

[@TriggTube]

Yeah. That's the real dark side of marketing.

[@GameFuMaster]

people buy based on price tags more than anything tbh. Also, expensive doesn't necessarily mean better. And cheap doesn't necessarily mean worse. Always need a review on things tbh.

[@JulioAngelx]

Thanks for this video. Was looking into rollers to sharpen my knives and specially my mom’s knives that she’s been bugging me to sharpen lol but didn’t know what brand to go with 😂. I recently discovered rollers as sharpeners and didn’t want to learn wet stones since it’s too hard and I hate it. Thanks for this video man, you saved me a ton of time. Keep up the good work 🎉

[@TriggTube]

That's the goal. Happy to help.

[@leethurston4774]

I bought a mid range that had both 15 and 20 degree angles, use the 15 with the diamond grit and the 20 with the polishing grit and have been nothing but satisfied.

[@DaneRossenrode]

Here in the UK, the cheapest Horl sharpener (Horl 3 Cruise) is £100. And typical chef's knife sharpening costs around £15. And I'd need to add taking it there or delivery, so add £10. So for the cost of the cheapest Horl, I could get it sharpened only *4* times (not including the time and hassle of getting it to a knife sharpener shop). Considering that, buying a Horl definitely makes sense!

[@MrBlutarski]

Have the Tumbler. Couple of things here: 1. You can unscrew the discs however I have not seen an alternative or replacement and not sure if the Horl’s will interchange or not but might be another good internet KZbin test. 2. With regards to not rolling, what happens is the plastic bushings become polluted with metal shavings and that prohibits the rolling. Disassemble and Remove the plastic bushings and should not be a problem in the future.

[@TheAndroidGamer367]

Man You're a life saver! (technically a money saver) I almost Brought the tumbler Thinking they were the original Thank Gosh You Came by And told me it was fake. Just for that here a sub

[@jame6125-d5u]

Omg I thought tumbla was one of the best but becauae of your honest review I changed my perspective

[@TriggTube]

Yeah. There are plenty of other reviews out there that agree with me. It's funny how advertising makes it look.

[@AaronDennis]

My son got me the Tumbler for my birthday and I have had none of the issues with the rolling part you have had in the test. I wouldn't want to set a new bevel with the diamond stone, but for getting a very fine edge it seems to work well.

[@calebhyatt1905]

Yeah, mine too, no issues with rolling!

[@xander9460]

2:00 Ahahaha! x'D That made me laugh so loud! Nice little bit of editing and humbleness =) Take my upvote!

[@shirograhm]

“Worth it” style video for kitchen gadgets, great idea

[@darrenstuart3907]

I've got the Horl 2 and love it. Interesting to hear about the Tumbler as you see them everywhere and I assumed it would also be pretty good. The Horl is just a very well made piece of equipment, if you value the look and feel of precision made tools then you will absolutely love it. For rolling sharpeners in general, someone skilled with a whetstone will be able to get the knife a bit sharper but although there is a bit of a knack to using the Horl, pretty much anyone can do it and it's really quick. The biggest question is what angle to sharpen your knives to. The general rule of thumb is Japanese or other high quality knives should be sharpened to 15deg, anything else to 20. Don't think that 15deg will make your knife sharper, it doesn't seem to work like that. I have found you can sharpen anything to 20 and it will get sharp. I have some Wusthof knives which are a high quality German brand, they are supposedly sharpened to 14 deg at the factory so I always used 15 deg with the Horl, and I got them sharp but was always a bit disappointed they were never razor sharp like when they were new. I experimented and started sharpening one of them to 20deg as an experiment and it actually got sharper. So my message would be experiment and find what works for you and your knives but if in doubt go with 20. As the video says you can get different discs for the Horl, I have just got the standard ones, but something that is really good is a sharpening leather strop, it really makes a difference. After honing with the ceramic disc the knife is pretty sharp but a few strokes over the strop and it transforms it to razor sharp. Something my Horl does that I absolutely love, not sure if it's supposed to do this but I am assuming it is deliberate, if you set it down the wooden centre section appears to be slightly off balance and it rotates itself so that the Horl symbol always faces up. Small thing but its small things like that that I love!

[@briiigiiijaureguiii]

Thank you so much! I have been looking into the rolling option but was entirely clueless on the price differentials. TOTALLY this video. My whetstone sharpening is better than expected. I have a large fun shaped knife which i have less patience for and assume these rolling things would assist that. 😁

[@TriggTube]

You're better than me. I feel like my whetstones always left my knives exactly the same. But then I had a whole mess to clean up from a wet kitchen. I never really figured it out and got frustrated with trying.

[@jordandoranstratton]

Former sushi chef here! I would’ve LOVED the original Horl in the kitchen to help the newbies keep their knives sharp. If I start up a restaurant I’m gonna get me a couple of these to help speed up the process of learning how to cut properly, since not everyone wants to commit to learning how to sharpen an knife (especially for how much of a price gate there can be) the horl would be perfect

[@dereke6408]

Thank you for this video! I have seen a handful of ads and videos from users of the Tumbler and had noticed that black lines showed up in user videos. I thought to myself, why wouldn't they make it spin? Turns out it's supposed to... I didn't know that HORL existed, but am glad to say that I will be looking to pick one of them up! Thanks again for the video I didn't even know I needed!

[@TriggTube]

Happy to help. It's wild how much more tumbler is paying for marketing.

[@kyroslangen618]

Jusging by the comments this must have been one of the most impressive (unintentional) ads in terms of actually getting people to buy something I have personally seen haha. Me included😂

[@TriggTube]

Haha. I imagine most people are searching for this video were already curious buyers anyway... I'm glad I helped them avoid any potential disappointments.

[@cole_CK]

Thank you. I kept looking for horl reviews and all I could find were “review” adds. This is good

[@TriggTube]

You're welcome. I hope this helps.

[@efe099]

the video editting for a kitchen channel is incredible !!!

[@TriggTube]

Thank you so much!!

[@erich7616]

I wonder if you could go cheap and just cut out circles of sandpaper to adhere to the discs, yknow? Obviously, the ideal is to get the best one, but that's what I'd do if I was going cheap. Personally, I like the $30 Smith's sharpening jigs. Not as convenient, but it's a stone on a guide, fairly idiot proof. Comes with many angles and grits, and even a ceramic triangular one to do serrations, as well as honing oil. At least the one I used to have did. That was years ago, and yknow, shrinkflation and all that. I lost it awhile ago, and usually just hone on a ceramic plate or mug's bottom. Good enough so far.

[@grumpy_cat1337]

2:03 maybe it's not you. Internet beginner sharpening videos, recommend way too high grit stones to get into sharpening. You need to start with 200-300, maybe 400 grit stone at most, I'd recommend ~300 Japanese stone, it removes material fast, and inherently requires consistency for way less time, which is doable for novice. And you can get your knives scary sharp with just that one stone, you sharpen until you can see a visible "V" shape formed on the edge, and then you make 10 alternating strokes on the stone to deburr, and you're done.

[@TriggTube]

Yeah. I started too high for sure and then bought additional hard grit stones. They were better, but I still had to take my knives to a pro to reset the edge.

[@Dontloseyourlight100]

I was wondering what the skid marks were on other reviews (no one mentioned) as to the Tumbler. Will do just that, save up for the HORL. Great review, thanks.

[@TriggTube]

Haha. I haven't seen them elsewhere, but that's what they are. Haha

[@patrickfellers4266]

I find it interesting how you experience with the tumbler and mine are so different. Never had any black lines or noises coming from it and even after sharpening my kitchen knives, fixed blade carry knives, and a Viking style short sword made with spring steel it still sharpens quite nicely. I wonder if the one you received might have been defective…. Regardless, thank you for the comprehensive review and I’ll definitely stay away from the $20 option 😂

[@AllAhabNoMoby]

The Horl looks like a really good and convenient little device. But I can't get over the fact that for the same money you can get a Worksharp Ken Onion edition, which is an infinitely more versatile sharpener. Not nearly as convenient and portable, but a lot more versatile and capable.

[@jaymyne1]

I have a rolling sharpener by Kimbo, which definitely falls into the mid price point, even a bit cheaper than the Tumbler. But mine came with removable sharpening stones and the option to purchase a high grit whetstone attachment. It also rolls a lot better than what the Tumbler appears to roll in this video.

[@LifeofWiks]

Something to think about when purchasing anything with different price ranges doing the same thing is knowing who came up with it. They understand the product inside out, and are usually a lot more invested in fixing any shortcomings. Knock offs typically just recreate whatever the OG is without so much thought as to why. So normally you get a more fleshed out, longer lasting product with potential improvements in the future. Though there are always exceptions as with anything

[@ryancollyer2046]

I literally looked at Horl sharpeners for the first time yesterday. Crazy timing.

[@iyerland0427]

There is another product from Horl called Horl 2 which only supports 20 degree angle! Question is: How do we know which angle to use 15 or 20? Or is it that either would work? Please clarify. But excellent presentation and detailed video. Awesome 👏🏼

[@TriggTube]

You can either choose the angle based on the knife you're sharpening, or choose what you like. It'll take longer to "reset" an edge, but it's possible. Ultimately sharper angles are less durable, so that's the trade off.

[@justicar5]

Fixed angle sharpeners, such as the Lansky system are also worth considering

[@skinwalker_]

Another thing I did not realise I absolutely needed until watching a YT video. Very good comparison, id rather wait and buy quality over throw away crap

[@TriggTube]

Buy nice or buy twice. 👍

[@allisonnixon1920]

Thank you for providing useful information AND for delivering that info in a very entertaining way!

[@KarateLars]

Another advantage of buying the original Horl knife sharpener instead of a knockoff is that you, the customer, helps keep Horl in business. This is, of course, assuming that Horl maintains the quality of their products (which they hopefully are wise enough to do).

[@bmbouman]

I have been using the Hone rolling sharpener for about a year now. I love it! It has bearings in the casing for a nice smooth role and quality feel. The discs are diamond and double side. I wonder how it would stack up vs the Horle? Have you tried that one?

[@TriggTube]

I have not. What price range was it?

[@Paulfighteronline]

Thank you for this clear and honest review! Like many others, I've been bombarded with Tumbler ads, and I wondered whether the product would work as advertised. Saving up for a Horl now

[@TriggTube]

Glad it was helpful!

[@rustjupiter]

I thought you were about to intentionally file off the edge of that miyabi and my heart broke. So glad you didn’t 😂

[@TriggTube]

😜

[@NightmareX57]

Thank you for this video I was looking at them on Amazon and I’m going to put the extra money on something that will last longer

[@Smarfton]

I have the Tumbler and been using it for a year now and I have had none of your issues, save a little of the black, but even then it stopped being an issue after the first use. Also the rolling portion of mine have never had the flaw you did. I think you just got a defective one. My knives have been razor sharp both German steel and Japanese Steel that I use since getting the Tumbler. Tumbler also makes and odd degree angle magnet block for further options.

[@jackrdeen]

Ive had the same experience you did with mine. Overall Ive been happy with it.

[@urieelSEptim]

yeah. too bad they ripped off the design and pass it off as their own.

[@LisaMT1218]

You saved me from buying the Tumblr. It's been all over my pages everywhere.

[@TriggTube]

I'm glad I could be of service.

[@-TradingSimple]

can you make a video comparing the HORL to the Work Sharp Ken Onion? I love the ease of the powered sharpener

[@CheeseLover23]

Apples to oranges

[@normannisbet1213]

Great vid, dude. Charming & witty as always. Always informative

[@TriggTube]

Glad you enjoyed!

[@TheLegendaryCaboose]

You just saved me from buying the Tumbler. I'll be looking into the Horl 2 Cruise

[@TriggTube]

I just heard there is a HORL 3 Cruise coming out soon. If you haven't bought yet... that's the move.

[@noxthestar8300]

just ordered the Horl Cruise because of this video

[@andreashauschild7757]

Its a good example that certain designs can be copied and give similar performance and function for a while, but the real technology is the quality of the grinding part and of course the rolling mechanism. Seeing that both aftermarket companies could not even duplicate something as simple as a stable roller displays really why they failed on the grinding disks also.

[@itsgonnabeanaurfromme]

any engineer can replicate or even do better than that. The problem is those companies are usually the shitty China companies. So it's expected to be garbage.

[@rickace132]

I have a belt sander, the Ken Onion edition. I use a 120 grit belt and then a 800 grit, then a leather belt. I plan on get a 1x30 belt sander for my next purchase.

[@gabeb4419]

Awesome video I was looking into these and due to all the ads thought the the tumbler was the original. I come to find out horl is the OG and way better than the rest. Thanks for the great content!

[@TriggTube]

So glad you found this helpful! I'm trying to break through all the marketing and show you what works.

[@Titan0170]

Yes, thank you. I've been wanting one for a while now, and now I know which one to buy.

[@TriggTube]

Glad I could help!

[@patrickjaime3260]

Thanks you the man , great video really appreciate your honesty 🙆🏻‍♂️

[@Elimino_P]

I super appreciate you muting the de-sharpening process. Thank you, for real. 👍

[@tonyolsson3880]

If you find it scary or overly complicated to use a whetstone i can absolutely see someone get a good quality rolling sharpener. I can see the benefit of this thing on more then just against a stone. If someone is older or wrist that hurt a lot, this can help them save money against buying new knives or paying to fix them. I will pick a stone every time but thats because i learned it sense i was in my early teens. And i would also say that you dont need much for stones either. I have a basic stone and it has lasted over 10 years. I sharpen like one or two knives every now and then and it's always done its job, always got it back to cutting my food.

[@TriggTube]

Yeah. It's all about your priorities and abilities. Whetstones definitely work. No argument there... but you made some good points about who may consider other options.

[@motivortman7132]

Interesting i have the Tumbler, which stopped spinning after a couple of months. The company sent me a new one and ive been using it for a year and a half with zero issues what so ever.

[@TriggTube]

Must be a quality control issue they are used to responding to. That's happened to a few people.

[@bjorn5221]

Thank you for the good video! I really enjoyed it!

[@TriggTube]

Thanks for the comment! I'm glad you liked it !

[@jongreen2713]

I own a tumbler sharpener and Trigg's review is spot on. Just had to open a ticket with them for the dragging issue. This seems to be a known issue by them as they replaced my original purchase with no problems even though it was about 2 years old. Customer service for Tumbler was great but I still would go with a HORL. I will continue to use this newer tumbler one they sent me until it stops working again and then will switch to HORL

[@TriggTube]

Good to hear it wasn't just me... yeah, I'm at the point in my life where even if they give me a replacement, I'd rather just have a good product that lasts than a product that gets regularly replaced.

[@ackmandesu8538]

For anyone who cares: I got a 20-30€ two sided wetstone on amazon like 6 years ago and after using it about 6-10 times a year on both of my knifes it is still in decent condition. It took me a couple of tries to get the movements down but after that I could get them sharpened fairly quickly. I am no expert and I am sure they're not perfectly sharpened but they are good enough. What I mean by this is... Consider how much the convenience of getting one of these is worth for you, considering it's gonna spend most of the time in a drawer somewhere. It is VERY expensive in my opinion. Also consider this is pretty much an ad.

[@TriggTube]

Thanks for giving the other option. I fully agree with your takeaways. I was making this video for people who are on the fence about WHICH rolling sharpener to get. It's absolutely a matter of preference, but this is the option if you don't have the time or desire to learn how to get good at whetstones. Personally, I tried and didn't like them.

[@twatmunro]

I've got a set of top-of-the-line Japanese whetstones -- Shapton Glass in 400, 1000 and 5000 -- and the whole lot cost me about the cost of the Tumbler. The Horl is outrageously overpriced.

[@norcalviking8992]

Great job breaking it down - Tumbler ads everywhere - thought I get one - but nope - going with HORL!v

[@rikandlinda]

Note, I bought the tumbler had the same issue. Emailed customer support and they replaced it and the new one works perfectly

[@TriggTube]

Glad they replaced it. But bummer that it happened.

[@DWillingham56]

The tumbler has two plastic bushing that the axil rotates on. I replaced those with brass bushing and now it works great. Bearings would be even better.

[@richardharker2775]

Thank you for proving that point. Quality costs. Just as a quick note. I rough sharpen my knives at 15 degree and fine finish the very cutting edge at 20. That way It is faster and save on the more expensive fine stones.

[@lemonhaze1506]

Welcome back ❤ Thanks for the review, guess I’ll invest a bit in the HORL cuz I don’t have the patience to learn stonesharpening 😅

[@TriggTube]

Yeah. It's one or the other... sometimes you have to trade money for time and patience. I hope you like it. Let me know what you think.

[@lemonhaze1506]

@@TriggTubeHey mine arrived, and the quality is as solid as you say. All my dull knives are now so sharp and so much easier to work with. Thanks man 😊

[@badgersnadgersjelly]

Diamond stones can easily get clogged with shavings, especially when using cheap ones. However they can easily be cleaned with a pencil eraser, which brings back their performance. I wonder whether this was the issue with the cheap version?

[@MrWnw]

6:04 what is the point of this stopper at heel? I hate when a knife has it because it doesnt land flat on the cutting board, the chopping is impossible with it

[@Mortarah]

Thanks for this video. I really need to get a knife sharpener and couldn't decide between putting more effort into whetstones or getting one of the rolling ones. The limitations are of course a bit disappointing, but looking at some of my German-style knives, being stopped by the bolster shouldn't really be an issue, as even originally they don't seem to have cutting edge sharpened completely down to the heel.

[@TriggTube]

Well I'm glad my video reached you in time. Best of luck with freshly sharpened knives. It makes ALL the difference.

[@mrchainanimal3637]

I wish I saw this vid some months earlier... I bought a not so cheap knock-off (about 90 USD). It didn't meet my expectations and I have returned it. It was not turning smoothly and after I have sharpened all my knifes, the discs felt smooth. I then have bought the Horl 2, and it is working great. In retrrospect maybe I should have invested in the Horl 2 pro to safe some time.

[@TriggTube]

Glad it worked out. Sorry I didn't have the video done it time.

[@ColinHart86]

Yooooo Tumbler replaced my tumbler for this exact reason. My second one has worked as advertised but every problem you encountered was the same as me

[@jessecotter4476]

the highest end Horl has a geared transmission in the roller that increases the rpms of disc faster than the rolling speed. I have not seen that feature reviewed on any of the many roller sharpener videos i have watched

[@TriggTube]

Yeah. In theory it would work better, but with how the Horl in the video performs, I can't imagine it being a necessary feature. For saving time or making the knives sharper. It's pretty quick and effective as is. Gilding the lily a bit I think.

[@victor-crow]

2:00 skill issue

[@TriggTube]

Yes. Agreed.

[@petert8931]

@TriggTube, thank you for giving us , who are time and skill poor, viable options !

[@Jiusonium]

I've been thinking about getting the Horl, but the price has been a factor. After watching this, it certainly isn't anymore. I don't know why I haven't bought it already, as I've never been the one to go for the cheapest option. Heck, I have hundred of dollars invested in my knives :D

[@arbuildingservices]

Extremely informative. Thanks buddy

[@TriggTube]

Glad it was helpful!

[@carbine090909]

Nice to know! This is great, thanks! Honestly, the $20 sounds good to me - I haven't sharpened my knife since leg warmers were a thing. Next show us how to sand down our cutting boards. 😊

[@TriggTube]

Yeah. At that rate. $20 could last you a lifetime I guess. Haha.

[@CS-pm5bf]

I have wet stones. It's been practice, practice. My first attempt I screwed up. But I've gotten better. It's fun, meditative and satisfying.

[@TriggTube]

Yeah. If you like the practice and patience I can see that. I prefer the meditation of cutting food.

[@CS-pm5bf]

@@TriggTube Great video BTW. Got a few laughs from me. I'd buy a Horl for sure when my stones go warped.

[@trigjones]

@@TriggTubeI think it’s great that a fellow Trig is also a home chef. And you aren’t in your 80s, I’m 41, only met two people with our name. One of them was the guy I was named after. I say “not in your 80s” because from what I’ve learned from older Nordic people is that it was a popular name in the very early 1900s. Assuming your full name is also Trygve that is.

[@TriggTube]

Love it! I've never met any in person. Still waiting.

[@eldie3d]

I'm a little confused... You didn't use the expensive Japanese knife, and used a 'stainless steel' knife instead... I work with stainless steel, and it's not magnetic. How did you make this work???

[@somedudewithakeyboard]

I didn’t know that HORL was the original so I got Tumbler. It worked well on the first use (so far) and it didn’t have that issue with rotation. Maybe you’ve got a defective unit?

[@TriggTube]

Possibly, but I researched it, and a few other people have reported the same issue I had. Regardless, even when brand new and unused, it doesn't rotate freely.

[@JanneBernards]

Are you a videographer turned hobby cook? Or the other way around? Either way, your video's are very well made.

[@TriggTube]

Correct. The first one. Thanks for noticing!!!

[@vindicatorx]

lol I have the tumbler, I have no idea what was wrong with with the one you got, mine doesn't do that.

[@royruther4895]

I would have liked to have seen the horl mid-range priced option.

[@lincolntupper3863]

Does the mid range horl still sharpen as fast as the other horl, and is the only difference the angle?

[@TriggTube]

Yes, but they JUST released another mid tier option that has two angles. I wish I knew before making this video, but it JUST came out. The cruise 3

[@plotson]

Great video, your long form content is amazing! Well edited with some fun inserted into it makes for a very good and attention-grabbing video. Also nice that you exposed this tumbler cash grab :)

[@TriggTube]

Thanks! Yeah. I didn't have super high hopes, but I would say it shattered my low expectations. Haha

[@TheResisted]

wow you must have been looking at my browser history! ive been getting ads for that tumbler brand roller and was interested in it after debating getting into the stones... never seen any ads for the original though! highly considering now

[@TriggTube]

Glad you saw it in time... hope this helps with whatever you decide. 👍👍

[@sentientcalcium]

Love this video format. Keep up the good work

[@TriggTube]

Thanks!