Excellent video! You are the only person that I've seen use the Kagami and it seems it's worth the money.
@forgeworks31765 ай бұрын
thank you. It is definitely nice addition if you wanna make a mirror polish on your edge
@TheGeneMan13 ай бұрын
I see it as paying for more time. I just spent about over an hour sharpening a few knives with my wet stones and thought I could spend that time making money or with my family... A few you tube videos later I purchased the Horl 2 Pro. Will save me a lot of time over the years.
@forgeworks31763 ай бұрын
that is also right especially when sharpening is more a task than having fun with it. Some people really enjoy the relaxing while working with a wetstone. The Horl is definitely much more easy and can save some time especially when the knives have the correct angle ground in
@stephenfrench38883 ай бұрын
Hone version is better
@forgeworks31763 ай бұрын
@@stephenfrench3888 it is all preference no one is forcing you to get anything if you like hone use that if you like the horl use that
@TonysTravels2023Ай бұрын
I've had the Horl pro 2 a while now. Too be honest I wish Horl would just "spit it out" Like many people the reason their knives don't cut is that the angle has been totally destroyed. The standard stones that comes on the Horl pro two, yes can cut the original angle.... but takes forever. This I believe is one of the main reasons, indeed the reason why any negative comments are raised. "It's useless, doesn't sharpen my knives"....... well, to be honest, I agree that standard stone for re-cutting lost angles is pretty useless. So, yes I bought the two extra stones, with strop "Premium set"..... then went on and bought the Kagami. I can now easily regrind any lost angles (with also the coarser stone I bought) and go through the range of stones up to super fine Kagami. The finer stones? Are they "essential?" No! Is the additional coarser stone required? Is it essential? Yes I really think the coarser stone is so essential it should form part of base kit. Trying to re-cut a knifes lost angle with the basic stone that comes with the Horl? Too be honest, is a time consuming nightmare. Now, after that long rant let me say, it's a good system, it's a great system. Just wish Horl would tell the truth, be honest and sell the full kit required in base kit:- Coarse cutting stone Standard grinding stone Honing disc In my book the above is the minimum you need. Then for those super keen offer a complete package, that includes everything in base package above Plus the two premium stones Leather strop Kagami super fine stone. I think the drip, drip feed of expensive add ons (coarse stone 100% essential in my mind) is being a bit miss leading at best, dishonest at worst. If we total up, total cost of say:- Horl pro 2 and standard stones Premium 2 stone set Kagami stone the cost is greater than a Tormek pro 2. A Tormek pro 2 wipes the floor with this Horl system. How do I know? Easy, I have both systems. If I wanted to "play" entertain myself, I'd go with the Horl system. It's a Very, touchy "feely" effective system. It can be very, very slow. If I wanted a system to achieve a business like, super edge to a knife, easily, speedily..... my choice would be Tormek pro 2. If your budget does not run to the Tormek pro 2...... get the Tormek 1. Your video was very fair, objective. Good video.
@forgeworks3176Ай бұрын
@@TonysTravels2023 thanks man totally agree with your Comment. I just sharpened a Chefknife that had already there angel not even 5 minutes, but to re grind the angle it takes along time
@Asgar12055 ай бұрын
I just ordered the Kagami stone and the German page says 3 times finer than their current finest stone. So i guess it’s around 18000 grid. Maybe 20000 for a round number? Not sure why they don’t communicate this better.
@forgeworks31765 ай бұрын
yeah i think it would be also cool to know. But as long as it works and the knife is sharp it is not a super big deal for me personally
@creep_ltx5 ай бұрын
This is what I have been able to search and find regarding the grit numbers of the different Horl discs. Coarse Dimond: 200 Dimond: 420 Ceramic: 1000 Fine: 3000 Extra Fine: 6000 Kagami: 9000 Is it accurate numbders? I have no idea.
@forgeworks31765 ай бұрын
@@creep_ltx that should be correct.
@flo.flo.flo.4 ай бұрын
Exactly. I want my knives to be sharp without becoming a knife-sharpening nerd (no offence to nerds). I bought the Horl 1 four years ago. I use it about twice a week and it still gets my knives razor sharp.
@forgeworks31764 ай бұрын
totally agree with you exactly for that it is build
@quintonrichards48055 ай бұрын
Nice into music and video.
@forgeworks31765 ай бұрын
thanks mate. Hope it was helpful
@larrylee3112 ай бұрын
I wish I was able to try those but unfortunately due to the cost I regret going with a cheaper one. By all means I’ll never claim to be good at sharpening knives and opinions are like butt holes, everyone has one. Don’t you waste your money on a Tumbler. I’ve tried dozens of times to get quality knives sharp enough to cut paper like they do in these videos and it’s not happening.
@forgeworks31762 ай бұрын
@@larrylee311 yeah the tumbler is a rip off from the horl. I used the horl now for over a couple if years and it worked really well for me. It is definitely not a must buy but a cool tool for sure
@70starre5 ай бұрын
Which additional stones do you recommend for the average kitchen knives?
@forgeworks31765 ай бұрын
The standard diamond is already really good if you wanna get it even shaper the blue and white stone is also nice. If you wanna go a cheaper route a stropping leather with a good polishing compound is also doing really well
@grizzlyaustin13 ай бұрын
I bought the pro! Does yours have a little bit a play with the gearing when changing directions going back and forth? Trying to decide if mine is defective or not?
@forgeworks31763 ай бұрын
mine runs pretty smoothly you can hear it when you change direction. But the gears are stopping and turning the otherway so you feel it a bit. Worst case i would always contact there customer support
@jakemorandante6795Ай бұрын
Can it works in 5 inch boning knife?
@forgeworks3176Ай бұрын
@@jakemorandante6795 yes but if it is more flexible it is a bit harder i think they have a good video on there page on how it works
@DavidDougan-j1m2 ай бұрын
Will it sharpen Kia Shun knives set at 16 degrees?
@forgeworks31762 ай бұрын
@@DavidDougan-j1m yes but only at 15 or 20 degrees
@DavidDougan-j1m2 ай бұрын
@@forgeworks3176 Thank you.
@forgeworks31762 ай бұрын
@@DavidDougan-j1m anytime
@bluejesper5 ай бұрын
nice review but get a mic please :-)
@forgeworks31765 ай бұрын
thanks mate. Definitely working one improving things. Have to get everything step by step
@robertcornelius35143 ай бұрын
Looks extremely dangerous to use for stupid people.
@stephenfrench38883 ай бұрын
Crap compared to the Hone version
@forgeworks31763 ай бұрын
maybe never test it out but they ripped the idea clearly off from them and only selling in canda and usa you know why because otherwise they would get in trouble because of the rights of the idea. But you are a free man and you can do what ever you want