Triple Aught Design Axiom 24 (2021): Is This Pack Worth 365 Dollars?

[@Jaggorri]

Great review! I just bought this pack after watching and reading a ton of reviews about how it was well designed, well laid out, and (most importantly) super comfortable. Upon setting it up and trying it out, it was by far the most uncomfortable pack I have ever had. Like you pointed out, the strip of padding in the middle bows out and pushes in to your back in a very uncomfortable way. I honestly thought I had set up the bag wrong or something. I just sent it back for a return because, while I loved the layout and how everything was organized, if I can’t wear, I can’t use it. Keep up the great work!

[@JM356]

Thanks George! Looks like it's all show, no go.

[@retrovelcro]

Great review George. Thanks Marian for giving George the bag!

[@Ronin0908]

George - I love your common sense reviews and trust your opinion. I’ve watched you for a while and you’ve really grown as a content creator. Keep up the good work.

[@GeorgeDEFINED]

Thanks man.. KZbin is my little hobby and fishing.. lots of fun

[@shemyao8835]

Agree with all of your review points. including the size and water bottle pockets. I had 3 axioms till date, with the current one being the V2. The back panel slots affecting the carry on your back, to the main compartment space, same gripes that I have till now. Having said that, I managed these gripes by changing the way I pack the bag and so far, it is still one of my fav. It is not a "perfect pack" status for me but I enjoy it. But the pack (if you receive a good one with proper QC) shouts major quality. Anyway great honest review. Appreciate it!

[@ptang85]

My boy is always doing his homework. Was looking at up this bag 2 days ago and he hits me with a review. This is already the 3rd time this happened. You been reading my mind George? I can always count on you. Thank you!

[@cwinasia]

Thanks for the review George and for taking the time to make it and share your thoughts. If I can add my thoughts to it. I've owned this pack for just under 2 years, it's been my daily carry. I bought it to replace the litespeed I had ( 5 years old at that point), I wanted something less strappy and tactical for the city and work. For me it has been the best bag I've owned, hands down. Expensive for sure, but if my litespeed is anything to go by I know I'll get solid years out of it. I'm 6'1", 180 and it fits me really well, ends up sitting just above my belt line so it's never jamming me there when loaded. I carry a 16" MBP in it so I don't have the bulk issue you have had with the back panel. I find it extremely comfortable empty or loaded and like that it keeps its silhouette consistent. When I need extra support the load lifters lock it down. I can run with this pack and the combination of great thick straps and shape just seem to keep it in place, it doesn't swing around like other packs I've had. I think the slight wedge shape to it helps distribute the weight in a very successful and comfortable way and may be why it feels good if I start running with it. Like you I'll also use it as a camera bag if I'm just going out scouting by dropping in a tenba BYOB Camera insert. But I use this for every day, so it's a balance between space and how big a bag I want to carry, so I adjust my load to fit the bag. I am professional photographer, when I fly and need to bring more gear I switch to something in the 40L range, currently Peaks Travel Bag. As a commentator said: mission specific ; ) I've heard some people complain about noise of the material. Never noticed it. Ever ; ). This pack looks almost new 2 years in. Dirt wipes off, unlike cordura where it builds up over time. I live in the tropics and often get caught in the rain and the zippers are still perfect and water tight. This bag has never leaked on me. Side pockets I use for small folding umbrella in the wet season, or my wet clothes after the gym or a pair of size 10.5 shoes, I don't tend to carry a water bottle. I agree with you the top pocket is odd. I almost never end up using it as it's shallow and not protected. I'd suggest thinking of it as a low use spot, maybe it carries smaller once in a while objects. Perhaps a small first aid kit. Front panel, all good, plenty of options. I like that there are secondary zippers with deep pockets, so I feel I can put my phone it there and zip it away safely, knowing it take time and effort for a pick pocket to get to it. For me the pack swings easily over my shoulder and I can get into the front panel when I need. Again after two years of daily use, the straps have kept there form well so it's easy to do this or get it on and off. Not sure why but this design catches my watch strap less frequently that my litespeed. Top handle is the best I've used. Again it may come down to the shape of your hand, which look thicker than mine. Perhaps your version is tighter than mine, the bag was tweaked in 2020 I believe. I wrapped my litespeed in paracord to get some extra grip and thought I'd need to here. Nope, even fully loaded this is very comfortable. TAD has gone a great job integrating the handle and an extra tough layer of material so that the handle really connects well to the whole bag and not just a tiny section of it. I wish some of my travel bags did this. Again, hands down the best pack I've owned and the standard against which I judge all my others.

[@GeorgeDEFINED]

Thanks for sharing..

[@jcpalermo2576]

Good for you, George. Chased down your holy grail and had the stones to stand up in front of everyone and say that it wasn’t all you thought it was going to be. I appreciate your honesty and integrity! It’s a cool looking pack though; I’m also a VX fan. The material is strong and looks amazing. Thanks for your thoughts on this one.

[@jmclean281]

I'm not paying $365 for something that can't hold a water bottle. Overengineered, IMO. Got so caught up in the fancy shit they just forgot that normal people need to use it.

[@eagle9516]

Finally, I found someone with the same bad addictions that I have. I subscribed to your channel and their great videos. I swear if I’m not buying packs and other gear I’m either reading, viewing or browsing for bags and gear….lol I have so many bags I need bags for my bags….

[@jatiyanon]

The lasted compartment where you put the tablet is forbidden, It will give the back pain. I had negative reviews on the TAD FB group and got kicked out of it 😂😂.

[@marianthelibrarian2274]

Excellent - another awesome review George 😊 and can always trust you to give an honest one!

[@mindbendernine]

Thank you for this truthful review. I was about to pull the trigger on it but I'm holding off. A very good review and I appreciate your in-depth analysis.

[@1vans1l3nt8]

Waaaaaaaa, finally TAD pack on the George's rewiew! 🔥🔥🔥

[@jamesross7574]

i love geeking out over bags, and your channel has always pulled through on that. kep it up bro, love the content

[@GeorgeDEFINED]

I appreciate that!

[@SerialEater274]

I wanted this until I watched this review. Seems like they made 3 or 4 small mistakes that add up to an overall miss of a bag. If they fixed those few small things though I feel like this would be a great bag, and I would definitely buy one.

[@FOADMedia]

Just stumbled across this. Great video man, love the thorough review and your honesty. Lots of good "real world" info here.

[@roddenby]

George you are absolutely spot on! I bought this pack last year and in my country it was $600 not $365. Bottom line it’s too small, water bottle pockets don’t work and I crammed so much stuff in it it started to come apart. I swapped it out for a green room rainmaker VX42 rip stop in black and never looked back.

[@HisGraceHisGlory]

I thought I was going to like that pack much more before your break-down of the details. I do really like the material used though. For me, my Mystery Ranch 2 DAP is the pack I love so much, it is still king-of-the-hill for me. Thanks George for the review!

[@MrTangent]

Always wondered what LL Cool J was doing these days. J/K Great review! Thanks for taking the time.

[@kidbach]

You always keep it 100 with your reviews. Price/value is just not there. Two years ago, I was interested in their Fast Pack Scout $195-205 was a little steep for that size bag, so I bought a First Tactical Half Day Specialist Pack (25L) that was on sale for $90. Your reviews are always keepin' it real in the feel. One.

[@tourproto]

Totally agree with your comments. I am a big TAD fan but lately have been disappointed by their backpacks. The Axiom seems to have gone "form over function". The water bottle pockets are totally useless if you want to use the main compartment for full size items that are US Letter sized (notepads, books etc). And the laptop compartment to not be suspended is a huge oversight as well, and why make it zippered on both sides? On side is enough. Hard pass on this backpack for me.

[@davidsaunders2200]

Great review brother. I have this pack. It was super expensive, but I've traveled through 7 counties over 4 years and I love it. Super durable. I just don't like those two side pockets. But im going to check out that other pack you had at the end.

[@peterama4591]

you guys are 100% right ...thanks for the great vid George

[@benjamindunkley7990]

Thanks for the great review. Saved me from having to get it and return it. I'm looking for a little more capacity than my LowPro Highline BP 300 has. If you haven't reviewed the HighLine, you should try it. If it came in a 24-26 liter size, i'd never need another backpack.

[@Jake-h9j]

100% agree with your video! I wish I knew all this a few years ago before I bought it

[@MoorlanderEDC]

Great review George - I think this is a totally fair review. I reviewed a watch last year that I made up to be something big and when I got it, I quickly realised it wasn't the watch for me. I'd love to see you try out some for the European brands like Wisport or definitely Tasmanian Tiger. I'd be really interested to see what you'd think of their Modular 30 pack or the Modula SW pack 25. Would make an awesome comparison against the Vanquest Ibex 26. Love your content buddy... have a great week

[@bobgox]

thanks for another great review G, all the best !

[@anthonyr.3799]

Thanks for the review, biggest issue with TAD is their prices, way to high and the design is not that on par with other brands..

[@gonefishingapodaca]

I agree 100% on all of your negative points on this pack. I had the V1 version and was so disappointed. The bottom of this bag is 5” and it tapers up to 7” at the widest point. It’s more like an 18L pack.... design over function unfortunately.

[@joedoe9792]

Thanks for another great review George! When are you going to review Foxlite Gear? I really like their stuff.

[@donovanhalstead2724]

Had the X51 MBC. REALLY tried to like it. It's just WAY to over packed for the little size. Zero stretch in the VX and really had to fit anything layered in it. Sold it after a few weeks. That top sunglasses pocket SuuuUUUUks!

[@01cthompson]

I know that their gear sells. But, I think TAD has gone a little crazy with their pricing as time goes by. That pack is too small for the money, and those water bottles are a no go for me. I think the first (only?) Camelbak tri-zip had the same issue.

[@TheDrunkLibertarian]

Beyond size it's not worth it feature wise when you get Alpha 1 niner and mystery ranch bags for considerably less. That plus they sell flannel shirts for $200 🤣

[@jessegpresley]

@@TheDrunkLibertarian the products you reference are made in 3rd world countries where employees are paid pennies per hour.

[@ac3toni]

My Grail is my Eagle RAID-pack, its a genuine v.1 in Crye Multicam. I can get whatever price I want for it, its so rare.

[@billrom795]

My Max Entity cost $100.00 less than that bag, which looks like an knockoff of mine. Great review as usual George, but I'll stay with Maxpedition and Vertex.

[@DaveSam13]

Dope review thanks George!

[@PanaMaJwaaRd]

George.. everybody is sleeping on the bellroy "transit WORKPACK". For the conplaints you had with this one, and the comparison you made... Deff check out that one.

[@GeorgeDEFINED]

I can check them out.. would have to buy the bags so it may be a while..

[@alellis9472]

Tad gear rock. It’s mission specific. There’s thousands of other products out there. Take your pic.

[@growpurple]

Love the reviews bro and that is one pricey pack! Peace and love

[@juergenedgarmauriciooberfr2745]

I love it!!! Thank you for sharing this video!!! God bless you!!! Greetings from Mannheim Germany

[@dsr556]

Great review. This bag has always caught my eye too. I ended up with a MHW Grotto 30 instead. Wasn’t sure if I would like it but after a few weeks, I really like it.

[@GeorgeDEFINED]

Thanks for sharing!

[@bikemmm6167]

Great review, thanks

[@pedrotello3372]

I watched this video and went with the evade 1.5 instead. Thanks for the help

[@sincityvogel]

Love your videos , lots of info. FYI that car is NOT a 1971. That car is a 1967 Mustang Fastback designed and built by Chip Foose. The original movie from 1974 is a 1971 Mustang Fastback (yellow with black stripe)

[@GeorgeDEFINED]

Thanks for the knowledge

[@jkamp]

Hey George! Do you still have the Axiom now a year later? Do you still like it? You and I have very similar taste in most packs and we are similar build type. Big GR1/GR2 fan over here. I just ordered the restocked Axiom 24. Hoping it’s a winner. BTW if you would like to borrow anything for review I’m happy to help. I’ve sent a few bags over to JB Outside as well. Cheers!

[@MelGibsonsFist]

After watching this review I think I’ll go ahead and buy the DSPTCH daypack. The TAD axiom 24 looks great but for me it’s just not worth the money.

[@i_s_a_i_a_h]

About time GD!!!

[@heystarfish100]

Great video George and a high five to Marion. 🙋🏻‍♂️ Nice looking bag materials and design but to diminutive for my needs and WOW! That’s an expensive bag. I would be stretched to pay more than 1/3 the asking price. $365 is insane, sorry Marion. That’s triple aught what you should pay.

[@marianthelibrarian2274]

Maybe 😊 but I'm a sucker for lightweight VX-21and American-made. As a woman, I need something small and light (and sleek), but it really is just too small. Ended up in good hands though! Take care!

[@heystarfish100]

@@marianthelibrarian2274 That looks like a great bag for a young lady but for a big galoot like George??? Thanks Marian. 🤣👍

[@rr1546]

365!!!!!! That is crazy ass price compared to a GR1 and the evade.The smaller main compartment was my main issue with the CPL24 v1.

[@jatiyanon]

What is the functionality in GR1? water res? - no, weight? - no, org? - no, clever? - no that with $325 all people hyped because the real fist urban ruck. And that is all in Axiom24. Capacity with the number 24 but Axiom can put more stuff when compare to UA24, GR1 26 -- tested.

[@johntang2554]

It’s my unicorn George, I think it’s a little too small for you though. The A19 Pathfinder and 1.5 Evade looks better on you. Love this bag and Hope I can get it someday

[@chavez82693]

I have it and I can sell it to you

[@johntang2554]

@@chavez82693 let’s PM

[@chavez82693]

@@johntang2554 [e-mail] is my email

[@chavez82693]

Couldn’t figure out how to pm you on here.

[@JayWing9]

The herschel little America is 25 liters. I've been able to fit stuff that 30 liter bags struggle with in that thing. Insane this triple aught thing looks like it can barely hold anything. The alpha one niner pathfinder, evade 1.5, and able Carry max look so much better. Heck even evergoods cpl28 and cpl24 is way more usable.

[@OnePakkuMan]

Yikes! I had high hopes for this bag too.

[@dazed4daze]

Kargo gear is the best bang for your buck. Great materials and USA made

[@danyeurgt]

Looks like some good organization slot pockets for a tourniquet 👊

[@udp1073]

I am a TAD Gear Customer since forever.. expensive? Yes, for sure! Worth it? Yes, for sure! Even if I am more for the "old school TAD" I have never been disappointed by anything TAD

[@jamiemeyer2718]

Great review, George. Thank you. Good honest review on the Axiom 24. It has major issues ... it’s too darned small. Everything you put in the hidden pockets takes away from an already too small main compartment. Everything on this pack is small and dainty. It’s great to look at but fails miserably on function. I ended up with three of them, and I’ll sell mine and my wife is returning hers ... too small for her. It’s almost a purse-sized pack. If TAD makes an Axiom 30, I’ll come back around. In the mean time, I’m waiting for my Alpha One Niner Pathfinder to come in.

[@stfuerik]

dang that sucks. sounds like the errant pack

[@jatiyanon]

I can't transfer full pack from Axiom to UA24 with the same 24L number.

[@Sn-tk8rq]

The price is laughable. Add the short comings and it's ridiculous. Thanks George.

[@Jedidiah-r1m]

Love the channel

[@seanleau]

I really think the vertx gamut is better well design. What do you think George?

[@GeorgeDEFINED]

I think the quality is slightly better on the Axiom however the Gamut is much more functional.

[@seanleau]

@@GeorgeDEFINED I thought so myself. Thanks man.

[@MrHomolka]

Yeah I’m not seeing justifying that price tag but it’s definitely a nice bag

[@l_o_a_c_h]

I have the Fast Pack LiteSpeed. Great bag.

[@bigdopamine9343]

I bought two pair of pants from TAD awhile ago. They both fell apart.

[@GeorgeDEFINED]

I just got some ATG by Wrangler they are pretty good. I might get another pair.

[@bigdopamine9343]

@@GeorgeDEFINED I think I’ll check those out. I’ve spent a long time looking for really durable EDC pants that look good. I like to wear pants that’ll function well if the zombie apocalypse happens while I’m at work. Thanks for doing what you do!

[@UP-lc1lo]

Hi George, for your work on this video 👍+10,... but for the shown product 👎+20👎👎👎 😌 Best regards

[@jeremyjmathews]

I love your son at the end of the video. Very cute.

[@asfsfas2435]

Looks pretty good but too expensive and the compartments are kind of weird.

[@theshadypersonify]

how would you compare the pack to the F5 switchblade?

[@GeorgeDEFINED]

I like the switchblade better for half the price..

[@donaltemus3565]

Great review. The material alone I would never purchase it, I’m torn between the go-ruck and recycled firefighter. Honestly I’ve been carrying a 5:11 rush 24 fir the last 8 years weekly and the bag has been great so a new 5:11 is still on the table as well

[@bwallis100]

Try putting the bottle in first the pack you main compartment

[@Yonyon0512]

Can you do a review on the black ember wprt

[@GeorgeDEFINED]

I'll try..

[@Yonyon0512]

@@GeorgeDEFINEDthanks

[@donaldaimutis2970]

I feel like the only thing this bag really has going for it is the admin section. There's a lot better bags out there for a lot cheaper. Vertx gamut 2.0 is still my go to bag for EDC. I've been testing out my Able Carry Max now for a few weeks and it has also been great. Hard pass on this one.

[@jeffwright6621]

Great video !!! This pack is way over priced for what you get.

[@amthonys]

I'm so sick of companies skimping out on laptop protection there's not a single bag that has full laptop protection. maybe something from Tom toc but that's about it

[@PumpUptheJam81]

I need that T shirt!

[@clintblong]

The noise of that material would drive me insane.

[@joeyandrews5970]

I have one and the crinkling is pretty annoying.

[@pjdepaolisii]

Their Scout is small but much better.

[@donaldbulgrin2898]

Very good review! It’s a shame that it’s not as functional as I had hoped because it looks like a really good quality bag

[@JimAlaska49]

TAD is expensive stuff... even though most if not all of it is made overseas.

[@scott9739]

Sounds like you are smuggling a truckload of maxi pads. Other than that, I like it.

[@edctvbytommyviola9119]

Nice bag

[@CalebM_]

Notification Squad!

[@GeorgeDEFINED]

Thanks!!

[@sembutininverse]

👌🏻

[@pandorax888]

👍

[@PanaMaJwaaRd]

all the options were nope. cant compare svelt to chunky.

[@cybergod77]

Expensive is the word...

[@joseg3259]

WoW G... this pack is too small for that price And "supply&demand" no thanks I'll buy something that will be more useful 🍻

[@Losersluck_]

this is one of the least well thought out backpacks ive ever seen.

[@williamwong6481]

Over price and NOT well designed , I would buy Able Carry Max instead !

[@Ty-sq7yi]

I know U.S made products normally cost more. But Triple Aught Design is horrible when it comes to horribly overpriced items.

[@marmadukegrimwig]

Without even watching this video, I can categorically state: No it isn’t.

[@renexwing1546]

No way🙈

[@reynaldorivera7641]

Their products are over priced. It’s nice gear and clothes but not worth the money to me

[@Biggiesmallsz]

Nah Bruh!

[@norfy]

365? Hell no.

[@stfuerik]

id be all over it if It wasn't for the materials. wish it wasn't so crinkly

[@k.k5135]

Let me save you 20 minutes... the answer is "no"

[@r.c.2144]

Meh review watch how tad uses and designed the bag and then watch this review. He is complaining about all sorts of nonsense. This is not a goruck or other type bag. This is a bag where everything is internal and not really a all purpose bag. It’s a bag specific type. And of course it is made in the USA as you said.

[@GeorgeDEFINED]

Nonsense huh? Okay