Tripping Out with Legend Jon Kabat-Zinn: Pain vs. Suffering, Rethinking Anxiety | Podcast Ep 580

[@Gilliganfrog]

Great interview-and Jon Kabat-Zinn has one of the kindest, gentlest, most healing voices on the planet. 🥲

[@marcdellorusso180]

No he doesn’t. His voice is somewhat annoying.

[@kotkienglish4620]

Thank you for shedding light on this matter.

[@patriciapurcell4311]

Astonishing!👏👏👏

[@KatiaRoberts]

What an impactful conversation. One of your best interviews, IMO, Dan--thanks!

[@TenPercentHappier]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@francescalarue3748]

❤loved it

[@dianagriffiths9831]

Jon Kabat-Zinn is the real-life Gandalf/Dumbledore/Obi-Wan Kanobi of The Meditation world!🙂

[@chadreilly]

Did you bother to read Cochrane review on MBSR? My recollection of the gist was that it resulted in small effect sizes based on generally poor quality evidence. Of course if you read Jon's books for yourself you can kind of see why. I think his Beyond Thunderdome book was the wishy-washiest book I've ever read. And you can learn how to do anapanasati in about five minutes. And he sounds stoned to me, you? You know, how you have that friend who just took a hit and starts rattling on?

[@chadreilly]

@starfish3419 Jon's book on meditation is one of the worst I've read. I certainly wouldn't say I learned anything from it. Gunaratana's was dramatically better.

[@DZ-rf9fh]

I have a luv affair with Johns Body Scan on KZbin. Wonderful interview.

[@chadreilly]

Shavasana is certainly not the hardest pose. Certainly not without a lot of imagination

[@chadreilly]

​@starfish3419 It hasn't escaped me that Buddhism is amongst the most self-congratulatory of religions. Y'all are always talking about how deep your thoughts are. When asked what it is, generally it's just, "life is suffering, it isn't permanent, and you're not real anyway." Doesn't sound as wise, as say Bertrand Russell. So what, specifically is did you learn with your "inner work" that I should find incomprehensible? How long did you have to lay there?

[@chadreilly]

I'm thinking Dan's anxiety would benefit from more physical exercise than doubling down on mindfulness. Seems both of you guys are fully unaware

[@TenPercentHappier]

We'll share your advice with him!

[@chadreilly]

It's 8 billion people, not 7. You guys haven't been keeping up. I guess that's what you get from over-meditating and reading poetry. I do detect a strong lack of ecological awareness with his general kumbayaism, but what's any of that matter, we aren't real, lol

[@seyedfowad]

Let's go back to our common sense...it does point to being a bit more compassionate with everything in every encounter

[@chadreilly]

@@seyedfowad Does it? I've been giving this much musing. It seems to me blind-compassion only furthers overpopulation and resultant pollution, scarce resources, and biodiversity loss. All of which will bring upon mass starvation. Very soon. Such realizations require outward, environmental awareness.

[@seyedfowad]

@@chadreilly environmental awareness realized by one human brain based on research data published in internet or journals if you work in academia is a different matter, a different realization if you will, compared to realizing the healing effect of being more compassionate in attitude towards what is already in the environment. Besides, the claims about overpopulation and scarcity of resources are just speculations, no database for this subject is so certain and thorough to make one lose wits from anxiety about it

[@chadreilly]

@@seyedfowad You are just unenlightened. So sorry

[@seyedfowad]

@@chadreilly no problem, I strive for enlightenment just like you. All the best