Tristan Harris - US Senate June 25, 2019

[@swethashankar294]

Here after "the social dilemma", yah me too!!

[@tanvikulkarni4899]

Same!!!!

[@john24003]

He is handsome and such a great speaker and is willing to speak out aloud to improve the world. I'm so jealous of this guy.

[@hayleyf9438]

Same!

[@ChristopherPutvinski]

“The polarization of our society is actually part of the business model.” Such a powerful point. Cannot place enough emphasis on this. It has such profound implications

[@johnrobb889]

This is a feature and not a bug in a networked age. In an age of networks and AI, extreme coherence is the danger. A world where everyone is forced to think in the same way is the path to stagnation and mass death.

[@technolus5742]

There is room for plenty of decoherence and natural variation without exacerbating ignorance and misleading people. Plus, these techs are being used not such that it creates variety but instead to flock people into the same predetermined actions.

[@catchmyvibs]

Tell- a - vision was created for mind control .

[@VikasKumar-hm6su]

👍👏

[@adamk9700]

I’ve been paying attention to TH for a couple years now, and my takeaway is still the same. He is one of the most important minds alive right now. Obviously this is about more than him but insofar as we value people as the progenitors of progress, this man has a truly invaluable message to spread, and he needs to be on the speed-dial of anyone who stands to affect legislation on this topic.

[@stevemilton9100]

The irony of me watching this on KZbin is not lost in me.

[@matthewgoodman7588]

How is this guy not more famous?

[@Nanticoke]

His mind n thoughts n ideas n theories are too good to be wasted or not heard. Give this man a platform.

[@hafsamumtaz1]

Andrew Yang who is running for president wants to recreate the office of technology (which was disbanded in 1996) and make Tristan Harris be the head

[@IkechiUkazu]

More nuanced and informative ideas like this are not likely to be shared. It's easier to experience moral outrage and be triggered by seemingly trivial things

[@supreetkumar7604]

@Vergil TheVirgin Explaining that 'JUST' is so important. Literally billions of people are manipukated on a day to day basis because of the manioulative techniques. He should have 10's of millions of followers, so people could get aware of these th7ngs. Finally, think ten times before speaking about someone like him.

[@eduardogispert]

The algorithm is probably not very interested in giving him publicity...

[@Existinginthespace]

We need to help get Tristan Harris on Joe Rogan's podcast

[@vmasing1965]

Would be an interesting 3 hours for sure. Let's hope Joe will think about that. I know people have already suggested it to him.

[@Gershwood]

@aydooknow aren't we all

[@pkallos4825]

IT HAPPENED

[@pkallos4825]

@aydooknow go watch his podcast w Tristan Harris

[@gessie]

Nah, Rich Roll all the way.

[@jdubbs21990]

It's so sad that this video only has 13,XXX views. This 17 min video perfectly encapsulates the problems of our social media problem. Share this video!!

[@ninjamantis8309]

I would share this with my friends but the sad truth is they don't have the attention span or the knowledge to understand it

[@Przemo-c]

Well it's not Tristan Harris destroys the algorithm . What you see kere will shock you. Top 10 reasons to hate big tech.... So it's probably nor that well recommended.

[@hardikjain2992]

Now they will watch The Social Dilemma and would also recommend to you....lol

[@xatreyudollx]

This is so important and it deserves so much more views.

[@MuditaBrand]

Powerful message. It's time to wake up and create the technology for the good of the users. Thank you for sharing.

[@funny-video-YouTube-channel]

Good explanation of this issue. We need to change this for the better ! We need a button that says: *Stop recommending this* Then the algorithms will become more controllable by the individual.

[@LoganChristianson]

There is on KZbin.

[@BubbleoniaRising]

You're not wrong, per se, but as Mr. Harris points out, that "not interested" button is also weaponized by the algorithm. The ad-driven model is inherently dangerous. Letting you opt-out is part of the algorithm's effort to fine-tune your engagement.

[@glenncarlson3161]

Wow I just discovered this guy, it's what I have been thinking to myself for a while now, but Tristan puts it all together very well. Thanks for the video

[@taylorlarson9669]

With great power comes no responsibility sounds like the motto for our Congress also.

[@trajanz9557]

One of the most enlightening and disturbing videos i've seen in a WHILE.

[@catchmyvibs]

I just saw him on a Bloomberg i thought so intelligent .and a great humanitarian ✌️

[@gopalakrishnans2003]

Wonderful. ! Asymmetry of Power ! Lovely : Tristan Harris...

[@vmasing1965]

Yes, it's a good point. It's still relatively small and harmless but it's already here. Most people haven't realized it yet.

[@Krageesh]

Why isn't this viral yet?!

[@vasiapatov4544]

I think it isn't viral for some of the reasons he mentioned actually. Take something like twitter, where you have a 140-character limit, where with a small short burst of information it is easy to create a simple statement and capture someone's attention. A 16 minute long video with a long-winded (but eloquent) explanation, that isn't emotionally charged (not sparking outrage), is far less capable of going viral.

[@majkkali]

@@vasiapatov4544 Plus, as mentioned in the video, this guy is saying harmful, albeit true, stuff about youtube and social media in general, so obviously youtube's algorithms don't want to push this video and recommend it to others.

[@msgtblbj]

This knowledge won't stop it from happening.

[@LifeBloodMarketing]

Correct. And it's my responsibility to understand what it is and what it can do.

[@shingnosis]

This is the typical thing with committees, politics and congress; they listen, they are fascinated, they condemn/endorse issue x and then nothing of significance changes.

[@margaretbassett7234]

Thank you so much for uploading this!

[@jonathanl7028]

Tristan's imagery is fabulous: 1) a race to the bottom of the brain stem. 2) a supercomputer pointed at your brain. 3) [marketers] instantiate, inside a computer, a voodoo doll of you and knows how to prick you to elicit desired behavior. (yes I realize I watched this on youtube)

[@berniesteer8999]

“With great power comes no responsibility” heavy stuff. Go Tristan!

[@JulieWalmsley]

"It's happening not by accident but by design." The most important counterpoint to all of big tech's shared narrative of unintended consequences out of what started as a positive tool.

[@JacksCompleteLack0fSurprise]

KZbin recommendations brought me here.

[@waarisaboobaker6492]

@@jochenweidler8645 same

[@ninjamantis8309]

A reddit post brought me here,

[@vishmonster]

@@ninjamantis8309 r/futurology

[@ninjamantis8309]

@@vishmonster r/cummingonfigurines

[@thatoneirishkoreaguy]

r/cyberpunk

[@sanjalisnjic7271]

I like how he explained according to Section 230 how Google,Facebook etc. are platforms that are not responsible for their content since (as opposed to newspaper) they don't create the content,but that they should be accountable because they recommend the content.

[@siyuan08]

Here we are going on 2024, and our Republican controlled senate hasn't lifted a finger to try and resolve any of these concerns. Sad

[@vmasing1965]

I don't think this geriatrics club can understand those concerns. I'm afraid you have too high opinion of them. It's quite obvious to me that the ability of our society, collectively, to reorganize itself to face those new threats is simply too low. Good news is, this structure of government won't become a serious threat unless it manages to reorganize itself first. Bad news is, it won't be very effective doing it's job either. Looks like we can't eat our cake and have it too...

[@vuerro]

We need to be told, but we sorta know already

[@alisonhershman6721]

This was more educational than the documentary.

[@mohokhachai]

Thanks

[@DeSinc]

they had to quote the spiderman quote again, I swear I'm getting mildly beside myself over this spiderman quote

[@albertosara416]

Holy shit from all people you commenting here? Love your content! And I'm very happily surprised to see content creators like you being aware of these things

[@theyoten1613]

Hello DeSync. I like your content because it is good. I would be happy if you made more.I hope you're good. Yes.

[@DeSinc]

@@theyoten1613 more on that quite soon

[@elmiras.8307]

what's the spiderman quote?

[@babington4394]

I’m going down an algorithmic loophole of videos about being in an algorithmic loophole

[@ekawpu1422]

HAHAHA

[@ho-dg6zi]

Im fascinated

[@ActionableFreedom]

Alright, as I was studying the subject of Web design and communication from an utilitarian perspective and always wondered why they have that "pull to update" mechanic, never made sense to me. Now this does,. It's not a function that makes for easier or better browsing. But one to keep you hooked longer on that particular site. Fab... God I've tried to stay away from this whole system of social media because I knew deep down that there was something wrong with it, it's kinda made my life worse because I've lost a lot of contacts. I used to have friends all over the world. But now with speeches like this I'm kinda feeling validated. Though stil not...

[@TheBlankJoker]

1 thing for Mr. Peters. Democracy and Republics are two different types of governments. Republics have some sort of a Democracy already pre-installed into them cause a Republic is an evolution of a Democracy when it failed multiple times in Athens which the Romans were the first to pick up on which the American Founding Fathers based our government off of. The United States is a Constitutional Republic. In which case, the Constitutional part is supposed to mean a Limited Government. A Constitution is Laws towards the Government and not the People. Otherwise with Mr. Harris, I 100% agree with him! Excellent job!

[@vmasing1965]

Yep, agreed. Also, excellent comment. Well educated people are so rare those days. (I mean really educated, not simply ideologically processed.)

[@heinzheinz1650]

Watch Aldous Huxleys warning in Mike Wallace interview in 1958!!!!! Harris confirms the principle in different words.

[@taylorj.1628]

Eye opening

[@zefzima]

Ironically the autoplay video that the algorithm put after this video is "Tristan Harris Says Tech Companies Have Opened Pandora's Box."

[@vmasing1965]

Yeah it's a machine, and a really dumb one too, compared to humans. Thus far, luckily, despite all their efforts. But... count your blessings!

[@JabbaTheYutt]

oh it's an ad for the new mr. rogers movie

[@Dindonmasker]

It's interesting how he said "wake up" like the person came back from some sort of trans. I feel like this could be compared to a good book that hypnotizes you for hours because you want to know what's gonna happen next. So we are getting hypnotized by the need to know, will i win on the next turn of the machine, will i see something amazing on the next post down, can't wait to see what's gonna happen next.

[@Arbiton_store]

12 hours can feel like 10 minutes sometimes. I never would have imagined wasting this much time watching videos just a few years ago.

[@yaojhou6084]

"we are getting hypnotized by the need to know". 👍

[@drimdrimz]

Coming back to this video after 6 months and has not even hit 100k...

[@furyofbongos]

Interesting how the Google search page does NOT use the infinitely scrolling feed feature.

[@masilophoko8478]

Harry and Meghan brought me here and for that I am grateful. 🙏

[@valentiniseli7991]

I think that is generally the case: more power means less responsibility.

[@arande3]

On a positive note, I have noticed a change for the better in how these platforms operate over the last year, especially google as of the last 6 months.

[@Kim-jo8px]

examples?

[@BIgBass255]

You've been warned.....

[@ninjamantis8309]

We've been warned time and time again, we're far passed that and we've already come to accept this as a society

[@fallingtoearth810]

What's really concerning is this technology-encouraged discourse is happening in a VACUUM that communities used to occupy. Now that we don't have communities technology controls and facilitates the vast majority of interactions.

[@Arbiton_store]

Dating apps like Tinder have MONOPOLIZED and have absolute CONTROL of all forms of romantic interaction.

[@nanimoosie]

at 6:20 he references a paper, which i cant find, does anyone have a link?

[@taylorcolonna457]

I wonder how may people in that room are board out of their minds wishing he'd stop yammering so they can break to go check their phones. 🤣🤣 ☮♥️☺☯️

[@a1103]

Hi! Brilliant video, thanks for sharing! Would you please allow me to add a translated Hungarian subtitle to this video? I'd like to share it with some of my friends/family who doesn't speak english. Obviously, I'd do the translation. I'm a software engineer myself, so I'm familiar with the lingo on both languages, so I believe I can make a sub which gives the same message while keeping the style as close to the original as possible. Cheers!

[@sabotocki]

Ironically I’m here because of a KZbin recommendation after watching Jason Lanier videos

[@joshbrochill78]

This guy gets it.

[@89Aquarius]

Great topic and very well described, especially Truman Show comparison. Mr. mentions "conspiracy theories" multiple times. Doesn't he think that topic he was saying about all the time (supercomputers algorithms making people dependent, sniffing people's privacy...) were once just a conspiracy theory? :)

[@marceloaguirree]

where can you watch this full

[@brucemacduffie5104]

I agree with Christopher's observation. Isn't it also a model we've used not just in the digital era? Jill Lepore insightfully describes a variant of this model extending b ack through all of the 20th century if not earlier in her historical These Truths, and its consequences in political life and national life.

[@mjkanellos]

And all those platforms algorithm backfired during the pandemic info craze..or did it purposefully?

[@ninjamantis8309]

My computer predicted i'm a pregnant homosexual man, send help

[@Kim-jo8px]

u r lying!

[@ninjamantis8309]

@@Kim-jo8px g dang it you must me a robot because you predicted my lies

[@johnrobb889]

Social networking amplifies. It allows ideas from the edge to gain more prominence in contrast to the centrally produced propaganda we had in the past. Weak societies will hide from that and stagnate. Strong societies will thrive and prosper. It's tough, but growing up often is.

[@m.g.1.9.8.7]

Io sono contento di aver visto questo documentario. Mi sono accorto da solo 7 mesi fa di perdere tempo della mia vita sui social, ho eliminato tutti gli account 👍 ci sono arrivato io e ci riusciremo tutti, i pc non posso controllare la mutabilità della mente !! In Italia in questi mesi sta succedendo proprio la morte della Democrazia!

[@babahariramtiwari509]

KZbin are you listening him ?

[@yaojhou6084]

I totally agree with his brilliant speech. However, thanks to KZbin, I also discovered that many of those so-called conspiracies are REAL indeed. So it really depends on the people who choose to use these tools and for what purposes, and yes, we need regulations to restrain such great powers.

[@jackieeick]

Harris is a genius

[@Showmetheevidence-]

... as the woman behind him plays on her phone 🤦🏻‍♂️

[@lenorepaletta9267]

😂

[@shabee_k]

the woman behind him is busy in mobile while is giving representation on social media.

[@privatelisting366]

Can you see when the woman with the long hair and the woman with the curly hair put away their devices and start listening to this man's words with dour looks on their faces? "He's giving away all the secrets! Arghhhh!!!" That is what seems to be going on in their heads about a 1/3 of the way in.

[@Wizradical]

But television doesn't have an off switch for the addictive media.

[@matthewnesheim6009]

2.6k updoots and 19 down. Looks like there are 19 Google execs who watched this.

[@RobBrogan]

Where's the rest of the hearing? I searched around for CSPAN and June 25th but didn't find anything. It would be nice to hear the rest of his testimony :)

[@RobBrogan]

If anyone also looks for this, I answered my own question: www.c-span.org/video/?462071-1/technology-companies-algorithms&start=497

[@vmasing1965]

Also, this is his testimony, all of it. But there's another guy who has pretty original ideas for solving the problem.

[@RobBrogan]

Oh yeah, I didn't notice that it was a super-cut at first. Thanks! His answers were great. I was just curious to hear the rest of the questions and stuff :)

[@vmasing1965]

@@RobBrogan Yeah, I imagine people usually want to see full questions. For those who've seen the whole thing, it's painfully obvious vast majority of politicians are absolutely clueless. Wonder how many are able to switch on a computer on their own... Tried to save people from the embarrassment.

[@FABCASTLE]

@@vmasing1965 Man, all in all, want it or not, politicians are as humans as we are. Besides these great minds you can hear on the full hearing (well, let's count off the lady from Google saying no, they don't use any kind of persuasive tech, although it's her job to defend her company and she also must be a f****** genius to get where she stands now), very few people on the planet has any clue on these highly complex, and new, matters. I think is great that politicians are eh... humble enough? to have such a discussion and, yes, show their absolute no idea on such points. They are just showing concerns basically all society has. Btw, I truly dislike politicians, politics and all what comes along, no matter what color they represent.

[@visho8979]

So who will do what about this?

[@vmasing1965]

I will educate myself and prepare for a battle. Suppose it's the best we can do right now. We'll see what the Skynet will do once it comes online ... ;)

[@heinzheinz1650]

The two women just behind are exemplary to what he says. The one on the left must have once "picked" a card.....

[@yozukah]

the two ladies in the back seem to bored by that topic? i am constantly distracted by observing their reaction

[@PlumBerryCherries]

Ahhh, so now I understand why KZbin changed so drastically over the last 2 years. Makes sense.

[@tequili]

I was really into this and then after 10 minutes I found myself browsing Instagram. Oh, the irony.

[@mrich21087]

I wonder what political ideology is behind these large companies? We should probably elect people that believe the opposite. But we will never know, so I guess there isn’t a solution.....

[@danielmccully706]

They probably dont have any actual ideology. They just need to promote extremist views since those get clicks. They dont have any feeling for or against them. They just need to polarize and make money.

[@JohnPaulHorvath]

This all ties back to everything David Icke. It's not just about money or exploiting the worst parts of human nature for financial gain - it's about generating negative energy and emotions that these entities feed off of, the Draco that control this planet. We are a slave species.

[@christopherpuddephatt1771]

With great power comes no responsibility.. yep

[@mysticfellow9843]

When people say the problem isn't social media. Pfft.

[@Szokynyovics]

It isn't the problem. As always: PEOPLE are the problem. Social media is just like a stone on the ground. You could use it to bash someone's head in or to build a building.

[@mysticfellow9843]

@@Szokynyovics I disagree that people are the problem. Yes, social media can do some good when it comes to raising money for charity, or educational purposes, etc. However, an impressionable child is going to be affected by it regardless of his/her self-control. Most adults too don't have much self-control. This is the same argument with guns. It doesn't matter how much regulation is put on them. There are still going to be mass shootings. Now it is the person's fault in this case, but it doesn't matter as long as guns exist.

[@privatelisting366]

The predictions are like when we searched for ripe fruit or easy prey, in ancient times. Whoa! I'm finding all the ripe berries today, everywhere I look they are ripe and just what I would say is perfect for me! -- Google/KZbin A.I. at work on us all, today.

[@howlbastion]

I don't think youtube is pushing the flat earth conspiracy theory. Have you tried to find a flat earth video recently? Good luck!

[@vmasing1965]

No they don't. If you listen carefully, he mentions that fact right in the end of that segment: "They don't do that any more." It was disabled after hundreds of thousands of recommendations. Years later and not because Google itself realized it's bad but because protests from the users became too widespread to ignore any longer. Voluntary media monitoring organizations can be a powerful force for good... the problem is politicians have realized it too and most of this force is now serving the political parties. Mostly one political party, of course. Left has always been more deeply in love with propaganda than the right because the left believes human nature can (and should) be redesigned. While the right only uses it to balance out the opposing party, because they don't believe human nature can be altered in any meaningful way... and attempts to do so are not exactly crimes against humanity but pretty close. Explains the difference I suppose. _Edit: I believe both left and right are partially right. Human nature can be altered, but it will take centuries and the changes will disappear over much shorter time spans once this influence stops. Western world is running on the fumes of Christianity right now. The fuel to run a dominant world view ran out a long time ago. Now it's a little more than defensive battle, and that's not enough to influence the society as a whole. Then again, Christianity has been hunted and persecuted before, and still managed to emerge victorious in the end. We'll see how it goes._ _Anyway, two choices now--restart the engine or face chaos and destruction. I feel bad for all those numerous people who consider all religions as hoaxes. (I'm serious, it's not meant as irony.) It's indeed a terrible choice if you're forced to admit the only hope for mankind's survival is a hoax. No wonder some people rather let it burn. Still, regardless of your personal opinions about it, this is objectively true. As long as the social sciences go, scientifically true._ _It's a strange world._

[@kufjapierdziele]

All big players should be shut down. Facebook, Google...

[@yikes6263]

The system that is focused on generating shareholder profits at any cost (human, environment) instead of meaningful change should get shut down.

[@vmasing1965]

@@yikes6263 It sounds nice, and emotional... but it's the same darn system that also feeds you, and makes the future possible. It's too easy to shut things down. To build up some thing that works right, that's way harder than you think. Yes, I know, it's not perfect. Yesterday's papers! Everybody knows that. Thing is, there's nothing better out there, and the humanity desperately needs a working economic system. There's no going back, only way left now is forward. We need to build industrial scale CO2 scrubbers and invent new technologies for cheap fossil-free energy. Best way to kill us all is for simple folks like you to get their way. Yes we're in trouble, possibly more so than ever before in the history of mankind. We have one chance at this, please, don't blow it.

[@yikes6263]

@@vmasing1965 nah. I work in tech, I know it inside out. People did amazing things and made the future possible before the VC-debt-fuelled surveillance business models and will do so after them. Until the business model is "we excel at building advertising profiles by scraping user data from wherever we can", I say down with them.

[@robosergTV]

@@yikes6263 yea, because communism worked very well last time we tried... /s

[@yikes6263]

@@robosergTV fun fact: there are more than two options (totalitarian communism vs liberal capitalism) possible.

[@BrentLabasan]

11:37 destroys/hates/debunks

[@joemoonblue]

The attention span nowadays is about 30 secs the ones who need to watch this wont have time

[@hafsamumtaz1]

Andrew yang who is running for president wants to re-create the Office of Technology (which was disbanded in the 90s) and appoint Tristan Harris as the head. He has a bunch of ideas on ways to regulate technology and re-direct their incentives so they are not harming our society. You can read more on yang2020.com #humanityfirst

[@SvetlanaYanova]

Exceptional video! But the yawning lady in the back could care less....

[@vmasing1965]

Yeah... That's a perfect symbol for most of the mankind. We're sleepy slow and dumb. Like herd of sheep driven to the slaughter and we're so happy about it right to the end.

[@davidjensen2411]

"2 billion Truman Shows...with great power, comes NO responsibility!" #ReplicatedIntelligence

[@SorryBones]

Chaos is profit

[@brookscowan90]

He because of Stolen Focus

[@generaljellyroll8737]

We were so close to a utopia, but a couple of people have ruined that

[@goofyskittles]

General JellyRoll no we’re not

[@punkgrl325]

We really are though. We’re living during the most abundant time in all of human history. Most of our feelings have been artificially manufactured by media and companies pushing planned obsolence while poverty only exists due to outdated caste systems based on status. None of these problems technically need to exist though, and are becoming less necessary as we move towards the future. I highly recommend looking into the scarcity mindset and zero-sum thinking and how they’re the main drivers of most of the bs we see in society today.

[@MrPatpuc]

fits perfectly with all the false information and conspiracy theorists when it comes to covid19

[@conornaughton4732]

Gotta love the red pill term. The whole matrix premise has some similarities to what was discussed here i think

[@BGlasnost]

"The polarization of our society is part of the business model" - many people, particularly people in the business world who don't want to believe it, would consider this statement a "conspiracy theory". And yet it is true. Which is why the term "conspiracy theory" is essentially meaningless BS. Whatever a person thinks is crazy = conspiracy theory. And yet, "conspiracy" is an actual english vocabulary word with an actual definition. By treating language in such a lazy and irresponsible manner, he is doing exactly what he is accusing the AI algorithms of, which is removing nuance and precision in communication for the sake of emotionally-charged and attention-grabbing catch phrases. I consider this a shame, only because what he has to say is important.

[@Ishmiester]

Well this guy just redpilled the fuck out of me

[@watz0up]

Those women in the background look like they are there by force. One of them looks overly arrogant and the other keeps looking at her phone and keeps yawning...no respect to anyone.

[@seanocallaghan7220]

Maybe they were planted there to distract people from really listening to the guy.

[@johnnyfitzlive]

watz0up I mean they probably are there by force in so much as that they’re there for their jobs. I’m assuming their reporters, but either way they are clearly taking notes.

[@ryandorough6954]

Who Downvotes this? Nazis?

[@jfhsdflaslreufijvxcvl9866]

worse capitalists

[@punkgrl325]

You guys are proving his point.

[@antonioaristidepapa3093]

catch the motherfucking tea on that

[@blaskotron]

Insults conspiracies theories, explains conspiracy theory.

[@vmasing1965]

My 1st reaction was, that's not a conspiracy theory he has facts to prove it... but then I realized the problem with conspiracy theories is not the absence of facts. Every good lie always contains some truth and the thief often is the one who screams Thief Thief the loudest. So yeah, I can see your point there, I guess.

[@NikoxD93]

Yes exactly. Ironically the reason I found out about this video is because I'm into researching the truth about our power structure / the conspiracies that led us where we are and shaped out reality today.

[@robosergTV]

it's not a conspiracy theory, you are just ignorant on the facts. They optimize for clicks, its known for anyone working at google, facebook etc

[@blaskotron]

@@robosergTV nope not what I'm saying in the least. Other comments are correct.

[@GibbonsTake]

@@robosergTV You don;t even know what conspiracy theory means idiot

[@Lythrox]

The more I dislike the more good you look for the more good I hate the more your company will fail?

[@majkkali]

what?