Triumph Speed Twin 1200 - Old or New

[@marktiller1383]

I accidentally swallowed a fly last week and then my wife told me off for eating between meals. I love the twin clocks best. It's a shame that they are not on all bikes.

[@MsDenver2]

@@marktiller1383 very good,you made me laugh 😂🤣

[@TAYM]

😂😂😂😂 thanks Mark 😂😂😂

[@mikerider58]

Love the old clocks but l suspect those digital screens are cheaper. They did the same thing with watches ⌚️ years ago.

[@MerciaMoto]

I absolutely love my Speed Twin TAYM, your review encouraged me to buy it as you know. I traded by Yamaha Tracer 9 GT for it and was dubious about whether it was going to be suitable as a touring bike? Our tour of Ireland back in August buried any doubts I had and i loved spending a whole week riding it every day, I absolutely love it and the clocks are iconic I reckon. I loved my Thruxton and was sad to see it go but my wrists just couldn't cope with the strain unfortunately, definitely no wrist ache with the Speed Twin 😃👍

[@TAYM]

Thanks MM 😁 yes, very sad to see the clocks go 😕

[@edwardsenesac]

Marvelous! I had the 2020 Speed Twin 1200. Great bike and easy to ride. Engine would quit in sport mode as a known issue. I rode it from northern Vermont to Miami. Beginning in 2021 Triumph went with upside down forks. This changed the look and there were no longer fork booties. Handling probably vastly improved. I thought it was good to begin with. Did also have a front brake rotor problem too as a known issue. It was replaced. All of those problems were worked out and redesigned for 2021. And now another big change at present for this model.

[@raymorris952]

You are 100% correct , thats been my gripe with all the retro Triumph bikes, apart from the Thruxton the suspension is under parr, So they put all the bits off the Thruxton that you wanted on the speed twin, then ruined it with the CLOCK ! 😮, so for me a Thruxton with straight bars would be my choice.

[@TAYM]

Exactly right 😁 thanks Ray 😁

[@iantownsend17]

No more twin clocks!! O no 😔. Great review mate and a beautiful bike 👍

[@TAYM]

😂😂😂😂 I know right 😂😂😂 thanks Ian 😁

[@gwynnromano5881]

In the states, it’s a candy apple. Ergo the candy apple red paint popular in the custom car culture. A gold or silver base coat with a translucent red over the top mimicking the candied apple itself.

[@TAYM]

Yes, that would be marvellous 😁 thanks Gwyn 😁

[@MRo55i74]

Get the current speed 1200 and add new rear shocks and you’ll have a better bike than the new standard model for less money and you get those gorgeous twin clocks, that’s the option I’m looking at 👍

[@bruceleong9534]

I have a 2023 Speed Twin with Nitron shocks and fork cartridges built for my weight. Very happy 😊

[@TAYM]

Brilliant idea😁 thanks MR😁

[@TAYM]

Excellent 😁 just out of interest, what did that cost? 😁 thanks Bruce 😁

[@bruceleong9534]

@@TAYM that was AUD $5500 from Nitron plus fitment by the dealer I bought the bike from.

[@TAYM]

@ interesting 🤔 not cheap then.😁 thanks Bruce😁

[@tomstockell9481]

Good to hear youre 'breaking the wind ' better on the Thruxton 😂 but seriously thanks for the insights...T100 still my fav and one to aim for

[@TAYM]

😂😂😂 thanks Tom 😁

[@ironside65]

That Triumph just sounds gorgeous, something else for the dream Christmas list!

[@TAYM]

I think so 😁 thanks Ironside😁

[@simonbowen6653]

I love the twin clocks on my T100, a TFT is doubtless cheaper but looks it too. The new basic Speed Twin lacks too much kit which came standard on the outgoing, better looking model.

[@TAYM]

Thanks Simon 😁

[@daintree2455]

The Thruxton twins torque is the talk of the town...it's Triumphant Thanks TAYM.😊😊

[@TAYM]

😂😂😂 thanks DT 😁

[@AliasMrHackenbacker]

I must admit I prefer the looks of this model to the new RS model. I'm not keen on the "barcode" tank paint scheme and the single digital clock and the price rise! I will have a close look at the new Triumphs when I go to the NEC show. I'm still considering a T100.

[@TAYM]

I think a lot of people will think the same 😁 thanks MrH 😁

[@fyorbane]

Look at the current Stealth edition 1200 Speed Twin. Really nice paint job [better than standard model] and obviously the twin clocks. I would buy the Stealth edition and just buy a good set of aftermarket twin rear shocks for my weight and riding style [Nitron do a nice set]. You will have a better looking bike than the new 2025 Speed Twin. Ok ,you won't have an IMU or quickshifter but do you really need that on a retro?

[@speedtwin-dan]

I'll be keeping my twin clock speed twin - what are they thinking with that new clock, also not a fan of Gold forks on retro styled bikes but I could do with nicking the rear suspension of the RS or a Thruxton though :)

[@TAYM]

😂😂😂😂 thanks ST 😁

[@redhedhair]

Twin clocks everyday of the week Taym 👍

[@TAYM]

Absolutely 😁 thanks D😁

[@debenhamdave4314]

Recently test rode the Speed twin 1200, followed by the T100 and preferred the smaller 900cc engine. Despite that a used Thruxton would be my choice of Bonneville, also its a shame the Speed twin is losing the duel analogue clocks. Thanks Mr Taym

[@TAYM]

I agree 😁 lovely bike the T100 😁

[@albundy643]

Good morning everyone 😊

[@TAYM]

Morning Al 😁😂😂

[@logangodofcandy]

I wanted a shorter sporty bike to compliment my 1200XC.... So, I got the bobber. I have to try one of these eventually

[@TAYM]

😂😂😂😂 brilliant 😂😂 thanks Logan 😁

[@scoothome]

Candy apple in the states. 😊

[@matthewhaag2138]

Yes but u better jury if u want one Triumph of Indy US has some before the 25 r m stock👍👍

[@TAYM]

Thanks Scoot 😁

[@TAYM]

I think there will be a rush for them 😁 the new ones aren’t cheap 😕 thanks Matt 😁

[@matthewhaag2138]

I have a 23 model & making my own R version it’s a keeper 25s NO CLOCKS NO DEAL🤔Great Review of the 24ST1200👍👍

[@TAYM]

Thanks Matt 😁 I think a lot will feel the same 😁

[@TommieTrumper-TFC1200]

Hello Mr T, I always wondered why they didn’t do a Speed Twin RS like they did with the Truxton. I would have got one instead of the Speed Triple RR but I was always put off by the 2nd rate suspension, which I felt didn’t match the rest of the equipment and style. I am tempted to swop the RR for the Speed RS but the clock change is holding me back as I feel it’s another cheap out again. Excellent vid tho thanks please keep up the great work I really appreciate your vids and commentary!

[@TAYM]

Without doubt, manufacturers seem to be always looking to save money and pretending their changes are improvements 🤔 thanks TT😁

[@ianhalliwell8604]

I've been breaking the wind for years, it's an age thing. How much power is enough i feel is also an age thing because as you get older you just can't handle or need a lot of power anymore, or is that just me, my Eliminator suits me fine now.

[@TAYM]

Thanks Ian 😁 yes, exactly. The older I get the more aware I become of my reaction times, strength and balance. 😁

[@bruceleong9534]

The “digital” style instruments on the new 2025 Speed Twin aren’t a patch on the twin dials of the current model.

[@TAYM]

Totally agree 😁 thanks Bruce 😁

[@adrianwalker7189]

Triumph don't you just love them, took out the T120 and it was the handling that put me of a bit it was ok but not great, finished up buying the speedmaster must say handling wasn't that much better than the T120 but the look of the speedmaster well just beautiful also very, very comfortable had the bike 20 months now ( from new) and ❤ it.

[@TAYM]

Thanks Adrian 😁 and very comfortable 😁

[@GapBahnDirk]

Breaking wind on a big bike sounds so beneficial 😁😁. I think that the Speed Twin 1200 would taste like a whole box of Mr Kipling's cakes. Tremendous fun 👍👍.

[@TAYM]

😂😂😂 thanks GBD 😁

[@frankmlchaelglasscock6539]

it's got to be the old one for me but I still think you have to go a long way to beat the T100

[@TAYM]

Absolutely 😁 thanks Frank 😁

[@pistolpete6321]

Great review!

[@TAYM]

Thanks Pete😁

[@cecilwilson5442]

That's a great video of the bike as I'd like to be in the position of buying one,, also the BMW 9T but think it would be the triumph,, with the engine configuration and power,,☘️☘️☘️☘️ from northern Ireland getting a lottery ticket,, increase the garage and contents 🙂🙂🙂🙂

[@TAYM]

thanks Cecil 😁 I dream of it 😁

[@davidnunnerley9084]

Love it.

[@TAYM]

Thanks David 😁

[@kristophertrout7328]

Carmel apples 🍎 😋 We also take chopped peanuts and sprinkle over that sugar goodness giving a salty peanut kick to them.😋😎

[@TAYM]

Wonderful 😁 thanks KT 😁

[@paulwatts905]

👍👍🏍

[@TAYM]

Thanks Paul 😁

[@johnstonstewart9683]

Love my T120 ,I altered the gearing and now I can use sixth gear at sensible speeds....but I agree that the handling needs work. Hopefully I can address that problem shortly. I'd love to know what others have done to sort the handling......

[@TAYM]

Thanks Stewart 😁 I think tyres are very influential on them and know a lot of people upgrade rear shocks and change the springs and oil in the forks. I know some of the fixes for the snatchy throttle work for some of them but don’t seem to work for all of them. But like I say, none of it is a massive problem as it is. 😁

[@trevjones1315]

The thruxton needed higher bars or the speed twin needed spoked wheels. 👍

[@TAYM]

Thanks Trev 😁 yes, either would do 😁

[@volt8684]

Love it except 1200 decals on tank. Prices are so stiff now

[@TAYM]

Yes, a bit cheap aren’t they😁 thanks Volt 😁

[@crumblymal8479]

It's a lovely looking bike TAYM and I did want one until I rode it , but for me it was so uncomfortable next to the T120 which kind of hacked me off in a way . Now I find that in the real world the T120 has plenty of everything for me but yes the Speed has better brakes and the back brake on my T120 is nowhere near as good as my old XJR was imo . So the new one will only have one clock like the Speed 900 then hmm not a good move imo , ahh ha TAYM so you took it back early that's just what I did when I road it 😂 (kidding ) .👌👍

[@TAYM]

😂😂😂😂 thanks Crumb 😁

[@paulsilson2148]

That's one sweet machine, and it's called a candy apple in the U S.

[@TAYM]

Certainly is 😁 thanks Paul 😁 Candy Apple makes much more sense 😁

[@paulsilson2148]

@@TAYM see that there, sweet ride , candy, I know you did, beeing in the robes n all

[@TAYM]

@@paulsilson2148 😂😂😂😂

[@alandmorley]

Twin clock bikes will hold their value better I think.

[@TAYM]

Absolutely 😁 thanks Al 😁

[@user-rf9me7xm1w]

I'd love a new speed twin but my local dealer has ceased trading (gone bust) and it's now difficult for me to access servicing and after market support. I thought Triumph were doing well selling Speed 400's ?

[@TAYM]

Thanks G 😁 I assume you are near Nottingham 🤔 if you are referring to Pinnocks, they were a multi franchise I dealer. Very sad, I think they have found someone to save the BMW side but not the rest😕 I wonder how many others will go 🤔

[@user-rf9me7xm1w]

@TAYM Yes, it was Pidcocks, I purchased my street twin from them about four years ago. They were based in Long Eaton. I later downsized to a Yamaha mt 03. I just hope my local Yamaha dealer rides the storm out. (did you see what I did there). Love your channel BTW.

[@TAYM]

@ 😂😂😂 my Tiger sport 1050 came from there😁 I did indeed 😂😂😂 thanks G 😁🙄

[@markinthemoment]

Great bikes 👍👍

[@TAYM]

Thanks Mark 😁

[@simongilbert2704]

when everybody [ seems so ] asks for two clocks -- makers go to a single ;;;are they deaf ?? the new 1200 speed is a replacement for the thruxton ;' [ kind a ] ,, youtube testers say the model you are on is a bit cramped --- which has always put me off a bit --- as it seems to be a great package ;; how are you finding it with your gandalf stature ?? as i am 6..2 ;;

[@TAYM]

Thanks Simon 😁 I don’t find it cramped but I do find the T120/t100 a bit more comfortable but put that down to sitting more upright 🤔 I think they are changing the clocks because of something to do with the electrics and quick shifters 🤔 bonkers though😕

[@colindeans5972]

Losing the twin clocks is a definite faux pas.

[@TAYM]

Totally agree 😁 they claim it’s about fitting a quick shifter🤔 thanks Collin 😁

[@Grumpy-Goblin]

I don't often disagree with you TAYM but I can't agree that the Speed Twin is the bike the T120 should have been. The Speed twin has lost nearly all of the retro style and is far too aggressive. Not nocking the Speed Twin it's a great bike but it's not really a retro. It is a very modern bike with a nod to the retro.

[@TAYM]

Thanks Mike 😁 I think you misunderstand what I am saying 😁 I am not referring to its looks😁 I am talking about the smoothness and handling. That’s all 😁

[@Grumpy-Goblin]

@@TAYM Yeah I got that TAYM but, for me, the only thing wrong with the T120 was the fuelling. The rear shocks were perhaps a bit underwhelming but it fitted the retro vibe for me. I never wanted more power and I never pushed the handling beyond its limits.

[@BlakesPipes]

Blake was here. 😂

[@TAYM]

😂😂😂 thanks Blake 😁

[@MRo55i74]

Morning

[@TAYM]

Brilliant 😂😂

[@timparish172]

The loss of those two beautiful analogue clocks is a huge disappointment, they were / are so classy and helped set the T120 range apart from it’s competition. It’s a ‘modern classic’ ffs, where’s me clocks? 🙄

[@TAYM]

Exactly 😁😂😂 thanks Tim 😁

[@MsDenver2]

I like the speed twin but on the new on they’ve replaced the lovely twin clocks with a horrible round Digital thing , not good👎

[@TAYM]

Exactly 😁 thanks MsD 😁

[@ruahinesrider]

The new 900 has better tech like Cornering ABS,Traction Control & upgraded Suspension but it doesn't look as good as current model especially with those cut outs in the tank & clock might be offset.I was gana wait for new models but saw a sneak peak with cut outs on tanks & put me off it. New 1200 Speedtwin doesn't look as good as older model as well.

[@ruahinesrider]

​​@@LifetimeBikerThey made that clock the LCD TFT clock that came out on Trident which is very good but Triumph is putting it on everything now.Some bikes suit twin clocks.I would rush out & can the current model 900 or 1200 Speedtwin while you can before the new models are is all there is.

[@LifetimeBiker]

@@ruahinesrider Agreed 👍 , Hope you lot are making a hell of a racket over this BS new rego proposal , Some Poli` needs to be sacked over that.

[@ruahinesrider]

@LifetimeBiker We are there's a big protest ride tomorrow in mist regions of NZ 🇳🇿 but not in Hawkes Bay or Palmy unfortunately or I would go coincides with Toy ride in Hawkes Bay & Risk Ride for Kids in Palmy.Closest is Taupo or Masterton.Tomorows protest ride is just a forerunner hopefully to a National ride to Wellington like they did in 2019 when they put it up from $125-$830 & then after protest reduced it to $525. They want to put it up to $870 over next 3yrs & bring in a 750cc class.Dealing with National Party so they probably won't change anything they just f#*k up the country everytime they're in.I only vote Labour to everytime to keep National out.Hopefully they're only a 1 term Government they've upset alot of people with their unconstitutional illegal fast track bill they brought in.

[@LifetimeBiker]

​@@ruahinesrider I am getting so tired of typing comments only to have them disappear !! , I will try again , Whoever is behind it needs to be dealt with in a way that they will never try this kind of anti democratic victimisation of a minority road users group ever again. Motorcyclists are more environmentally friendly than most vehicles and most motorcycle accidents are caused by other motorists mistakes. Gov` , Transport agencies and Insurance companies need to stop cooking the books to reflect their preferred outcome. IF they made motorcycles illegal I would still ride , Screw `em.

[@LifetimeBiker]

@@ruahinesrider I am getting so tired of typing comments only to have them disappear !! , I will try again , Whoever is behind it needs to be dealt with in a way that they will never try this kind of anti democratic victimisation of a minority road users group ever again. Motorcyclists are more environmentally friendly than most vehicles and most motorcycle accidents are caused by other motorists mistakes. Gov` , Transport agencies and Insurance companies need to stop cooking the books to reflect their preferred outcome. IF they made motorcycles illegal I would still ride , Screw `em.

[@drdoolittle5724]

So, ' buy one while you can', sounds ominous TAYM?, or have you been talking to her who must be obeyed !!!

[@TAYM]

😂😂😂 if had this would be a Rocket review 😂😂😂 thanks DrD 😁

[@ruahinesrider]

4th😂

[@ruahinesrider]

Finally knocked off the podium.

[@TAYM]

😂😂😂

[@TAYM]

So be back on it 😁

[@pinkiewerewolf]

One round clock… RIP Speed Twin. 🪦 Candy Apples or Caramel Apples in the parts of the States where I’ve lived.

[@TAYM]

Yes, very sad 😕