Triumph vs Ducati - Triumph Rocket 3 VS Ducati Diavel | Visordown.com

[@cr0ft-2k]

The Rocket 3 has so much more displacement for very similar horsepower numbers - which, of course, means it's a lot less peaky but also that the tuning potential for the Rocket 3 is immense. The older gen can already be upgraded with 300 hp supercharger kits, and if you want to talk about face melting power, well... I'm sure the new gen will eventually see similar options arrive. I was in fact a little disappointed in Triumph, the horsepower number on this monster should have been more monstrous, well north of 200 hp in my opinion. Especially now that it has fly by wire and driving modes, you could just run it in lower power modes when needed and turn on the full power when you wanted to go fast.

[@jamesrose9106]

My stock 14 is fast enough🙃

[@michaelwinter3132]

Totally right, it should bring up 200hp stock.

[@BigUriel]

The Rocket basically has a car engine, its long stroke means it barely revs past 6000rpm that's why it doesn't make that much power. The Diavel has a much shorter stroke sports bike sourced engine that revs past 10.000rpm that's why it can make similar power with much lower displacement. Getting much more power out of the Rocket would require redesigning the engine completely, basically starting from scratch really. But the bike is already pretty expensive as it is...

[@michaelwinter3132]

@@BigUriel My '14 is basically just derestricted with a filter, pipe and tune, and gained 40 rwhp. Carpenter Racing does a drive-in, drive-out kit for 265rwhp n/a. So it actually would not be such a big deal to get 200hp, this bike is extremely detuned and governed when stock.

[@blairtaylor9552]

@@BigUriel Yeah, the engineers apparently overlooked trying to wring any solid performance out of this new engine. They reduced the rotating mass so now it revs to 7000 and made some other improvements but it's still one slow turdwaffle.. I mean, this anchor of a bike takes a full 2.73 seconds to go 0 to 60! Who would want a bike that ridiculously slow!? Oh... wait a minute... hold my beer while I think this through.... :-)

[@hunkass3982]

heart says diavel, mind says R3, pocket says fcuk off go to sleep

[@UHTMK3579]

😂😂😂😂😂

[@hunkass3982]

@vic vapor lol

Agreed. I used to have a Gold Wing.

[@hunkass3982]

@ thanks mate for the suggestion ...

[@hunkass3982]

@ OMG. that one is super expensive shit, I guess

[@terminatorx2545]

The Rocket 3 looks like the best bike ever

[@wolfsimon9138]

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. I did not like the design of the Henderson Bikes in the 1920s and I don't like the design of the R3.

[@Mo-xx9gg]

Wrong! Ever ever!

[@robertprosser6856]

Come on visordown the new rocket is 2500cc give or take. You're giving the engine size of the old rocket!

[@swimmerthon]

I thought i heard them miss quote it

[@robertprosser6856]

@@swimmerthon yeah you would think motorcycle journalists would get the basic info correct! MCN are terrible for getting facts and figures incorrect in their paper!

[@joeridestrijcker445]

163Nm of torque... or, in metric, 221Nm of torque; right ;)

[@adicu87]

That s why i came to see the comms.

[@MetalReign999]

Same

[@alc8782]

Great review. I think you nailed it. I’ve rode both bikes. Rocket leaning more towards touring, Diavel leaning more towards sport. Comfort rocket got it, cornering Diavel got it. Similar looking bike, but very different what they made to do.

[@whatthefitt]

Passenger seat is much bigger and better on the Diavel. I can’t fathom why would triumph design such a tiny passenger seat on the rocket since it’s a touring bike.

[@bmfilmnut]

I find it incredible that you review the new Rocket and don't even know that the engine was upped to 2500cc. After all, that's the big news about the bike.

[@CommonsFilms]

“2294cc”. You literally had one job!

[@Lumpy072]

Not to mention when he said it had "163 nm of torque and to put it into metric is 221 nm of torque." (at about the 1:30 mark) Is anyone editing these videos before posting them?

[@CommonsFilms]

The general quality of VD reviews and content is often wide of the mark... but to not have a clear understanding of what you are test riding and as to why it is so significant in terms of what sets it apart is a little sad to say the least!

[@ronaldoleon48]

@@Lumpy072 I think he meant to say 163 foot pounds.

[@Glide1992]

@@ronaldoleon48 We all know what he meant.

[@drmatt357]

ronaldo leon - pound/feet😏

[@CommonsFilms]

The Diavel looks fantastic... up until I see someone on it. The Triumph Bobber has a similar issue in that the human form just doesn’t gel with the shape of the bike. The Rocket 3 however isn’t affected in the same way! Obviously it’s subjective but for what it’s worth there’s my 2 pennies worth.

[@warlock9445]

You are correct.i once saw a guy on a diavel and the entire view was not that pleasing

[@YashPankar-xj6dv]

I had the same thought

[@ankushbudhiraja9475]

Come to think of it I too made a similar observation but it was a 40 something corporate guy. Now I think its the bike

[@johnnyboy1586]

Being a shaft drive the rocket is the perfect continental crosser

[@MrAndrew1953]

Diavel S over the Rocket R for sharper handling and better set for a single rider with the seat, Ohlins suspension.

[@hamsterclamper]

Another great Rocket review. My black R should be arriving in a couple of weeks. I tried the Diavel and loved it, but I’m British and can’t resist the way the Rocket looks, so have gone with that. Don’t care if the Diavel has the sportier ride.

[@JetCooper3D]

Hey Paul.... did your dealer say a few weeks? Triumph Ashford, UK is saying Jan - Feb next year and I have had my deposit down very early.

[@RocketMan_Moto]

Jet Cooper Paul here, aka RocketMan😊 I’m in Lisbon, as you know, and the boss at my dealership told me mid-December. His colleague, the sales guy I normally deal with is in Madrid on a training course. I pestered him by email today for a date (all vehicles in Portugal come through the Spanish importers) and he said he’d let me know when he gets back tomorrow. I tend to take everything they ‘promise’ with a pinch of salt, but you never know. I put my deposit down on 1 August. Hope this helps😊

[@djb7302]

They told me the first few tfc will arrive in December. They asked me if I’d be annoyed if mine arrived in January and i said I’m fine with it. But I won’t be too happy if I start seeing standard bikes arriving before the tfc orders are complete.

[@RocketMan_Moto]

DJB 730 I wouldn’t be too happy, either, but let’s wait and see. Delivery dates are a bit vague at the moment and nobody seems very sure about when the bikes will actually start arriving. I’ll be posting news as soon as I have it on my channel: www.rocket2500.com 😊

[@MrBillyRR]

@@JetCooper3D Bikes are starting delivery on 16th December. Mostly TFCs, but a few Rs and GTs. I've been offered mine that week; deposit down since last January.

[@flibbertigibbet6200]

Should be against the x-diavel S not the Diavel

[@MrBillyRR]

X Diavel against the Rocket GT.

[@peacequiet4883]

Exactly.

[@jeremysera4201]

Totally agree!!!

[@ElMojaoFrijolero]

Yes please!

[@josh786manchester]

Disagree: The rocket 3R they are testing here is mid pegs like the Diavel. So its the perfect bike to compare it to. The Rocket 3 GT however is the bike that should be compared to an X-Diavel because they both have front forward pegs.

[@kenlyneham4105]

No bike beats the Rocket 3 for looking spectacular.

[@jamesd5343]

Sold off my collection for a Rocket 3 and kept a R9T Racer...both great handling and single side shaft drive.

[@zimtuff]

The Rocket is 2458cc. Good comparison though. The Rocket will be a better long term bike, especially if you want to use it in all conditions. The Diavel is a bit specialised, but some want that.

[@JetCooper3D]

Sold the Gen 2 Vmax for the R3.... deposit down from the beginning.....STILL waiting impatiently.... my fun tickets stay on the Triumph....

[@Biggus_Dickus_Incontinenta_Btx]

Jet Cooper mines coming in January apparently. Deposit like you from start. Cant wait.

[@JenniferSmith-yl6lr]

@Jet Cooper Haven't heard of many selling a VMax for a different bike. Me I didn't even sell my Gen 1 when I bought my Gen2. I will go for a testride of the R3 maybe later this year but I doubt that the R3 is much better in any disciplin than the Gen2. Fuel capacity maybe. Both are fat, heavy and powerful. Anyway, please update your experiences here.

[@nizzmo100]

OK but If Its down to looks Rocket 3 all day long ...Good review .

[@mislead1070]

Hey i think Rocket 3 looks more better from side view instead of the front and back view especially the one sided swing arm!!!

[@ChristRegeneration]

No way The duke is way sexier!

[@ArtoDelFunko]

Hmmm he describes the Rocket as being 2294cc (old Rocket III), 165hp (new Rocket 3), and 163 ftlb or 221nm at 2750rpm (old Rocket III), all with the new Rocket 3 in the video

[@ArtoDelFunko]

@Richard Watson Jr. yeah they're trumpeting the torque big time, even though the Roadsters have been making that exact same tq since 2010 And lower down too..

[@ArtoDelFunko]

@Richard Watson Jr. we will see when someone puts one on a dyno. They moved the tq up in the revs, this will help explain the hp increase, I think the cc increase is mostly to be the world's biggest again

[@blairtaylor9552]

@@ArtoDelFunko A couple dyno's have been done. The new R3 is right around 150/150 rear wheel (ft-lbs/hp). These numbers should always be REAR WHEEL, for REAL WORLD. At the crank is NOT rear wheel/real world. Final drive losses will vary bike-to-bike. Anyway, good engineering and nicely balanced numbers. 1) Torque- recently set a record: Stock: 0-60 in 2.73 seconds (I won't complain if you don't :-); 2) HP- If I really needed to go over 140, I'd be looking at a different bike; 3) Lifespan- should live way longer than any overbuilt big twin. This engine is a smooth running 120 degree firing-order, dual overhead cam beast. It revs QUICK, more like a sport bike. Engine and tranny have been re-engineered and improved. To put this drivetrain against an inherently inefficient single-pin-crank big-twin is not a fair fight. The big twin would need 8-10K in 'upgrades' to be near the same numbers, and then reliability will be questionable. They sound cool though, which to some is worth the extra 10-20K, depending on model and cup holders...….

[@eveen3492]

The triumph looks badass. I want one.

[@Speedytrip]

I'd go with the Rocket III, for that big inline-3 and more comfort.

[@a.jsipple7322]

Thanks for the update. I happen to be in the unique position where I couldn't afford to buy new. My Buddy Tim has been spanking me for two years on his Older Rocket III. Now that He is getting the new Rocket III, I was forced to get a Diavel , as there are no 2020 Rockets on the Used market. A slightly used Diavel Carbon is about half price. Cheers from a Vmax fan.

[@cwest394]

A "vs" video without a race. Brilliant

[@jimjoseph7641]

I have had a Ducati Diavel, Triumph Rocket 3, KTM Super Duke 1290 R and the gen 2 Yamaha Vmax. I still have the Vmax. It has the best acceleration of any of them and it handles quite well. No other bike comes close to the feelings generated when riding the Vmax.

[@whatthefitt]

Curious what’s the 0-100km/h timing for the Vmax? It’s 2.6s officially for the Diavel 1260s - not that I dare to try yet as I only have only owned it for 2 months. 😂

[@protectorh9167]

Only the looks, Triumph Triumph Triumph Triumph Triumph what a bike, wow. Riding now ktm 1190 adventure very great bike but when it is time to change Ktm again or and with smaller engine.

[@DonnieDesmo]

I'd take the Diavel for its sportiness, but hats off to Triumph for building such a bonkers bike!

[@needmetal3221]

I think it looks meaner than the Ducati

[@everybitfitmesaazpersonalf4021]

I own a 2020 Diavel S in the midnight matte black and red trellis, The torque is wicked wild and one most hold on for their lives when you send it! According to Ducati, the new Diavel S holds the record for 0-100 mph and I believe it! I love this bike, although I only have a few hundred miles on the odometer. Moreover, it handles very well and can perform slow agility skills very well. I used it at the advanced MSF class 2 weeks ago and did U-turns swerves and figure 8s in a single parking space just fine. Compared to my Panigale V4S Corse which is a pain in the arse to do any agility skills due to its restricted steering radius.

[@mikem4654]

Is the throttle twitchy and can it be dialed down enough for commuting in the city?

[@everybitfitmesaazpersonalf4021]

@@mikem4654 The throttle is buttery smooth in the "Touring" and "Urban" modes. If in the Sport mode be prepared for immediate action and to be launched like a missile! Moreover, you can customize each mode for DTC, ABS, DWC, and DQS. This bike is a cross between a superbike and a cruiser.

[@everybitfitmesaazpersonalf4021]

And yes, it's very easy to commute with.

[@whatthefitt]

@@everybitfitmesaazpersonalf4021 1260s owner here. This bike is a beast, but I wouldn’t say it’s buttery smooth nor refined because this bike is just meant to go fast. The throttle is the most twitchy I have experienced I have tried on any bike (rode Honda and Suzuki before only) when I first got it. Not saying it’s extremely twitchy, but it takes awhile to get used to the throttle and clutch control. Took me a month or so to adapt to it. Once you adapt to it, the twitchy issue is more or less gone as you learn how to control the throttle and clutch accordingly to this bike. I love this bike, but it’s just not the most ideal bike for low speed and low RPMs. Pretty sure all Ducatis are meant to go fast 😂 But yeah, overall a great bike to commute as long as you don’t get stuck in traffic and jams - you will be cooked lol.

[@frankguillen4536]

I own a 2015 Ducati Diavel and it's an amazing bike that I bought pre-owned for 11k. I couldn't bare the price of the new rocket and the added weight of that bike...way too heavy in my opinion.

[@JohnG-gu5wo]

Triumph is a piece of shit mate

[@sivvinod3187]

@@JohnG-gu5wo more like triumph dealers are shit, the bikes are excellent.

[@seeker1432]

@@sivvinod3187 Ive heard more about Ducati being crap than Triumph. My R3 has never had an issue. Neither my other Triumphs ive owned.

[@jeanvinel5667]

R3 is more bike for the money . It might not win the race between the two, but does everything well. Plus, it’s going to be more reliable than the Duc in the long and short term.

[@TheAgalmic]

A big thumbs up to Triumph and Ducati for a pair of cracking bikes. I was in the market for both of these but finally decided on the Diavel 1260s. The Rocket 3R is a great bike (hence my interest) and I loved the fact that it just came as a finished package but therein lies the rub, there is no exhaust add-on or customisation to be had and the engine note on the Triumph is non-existent (at least it doesn't sound like I think it should) and a big part of motorcycling pleasure for me is the sound. Then there's a couple of little niggles... 1, that tank is old fashioned and clashes with the modern-looking engine and chassis and 2, that petrol cap cover is plain fuggly, I couldn't sit there looking at that all day. The Diavel, on the other hand, is a beautiful piece of Italian design and let's face it, they know a thing or three about that subject and marry the bike up to the Termignoni exhaust and you have a symphony of deep V2 bass and rumble (which is what I was expecting from that huge Rocket engine). Oh, and the Diavel fits through my front door :-)

[@dumuntai]

I share the sentiments of many other people here regarding the lack of comparison to the VMAX. I will first start by saying even as a VMAX owner I like the Rocket 3R. Congrats are in order for Triumph as the new Rocket 3 has broken the sub 3 second 0-60 mph mark.Albeit still lags behind the VMAX and Diavel but still impressive for its size. I can see myself owning one of these but not at the current price tag of 22kish which is 5k over a new VMAX. Kudos again for the nice aggressive styling on the Rocket and a factory 240mm rear tire. Overall if price is an issue the Vmax is your choice and if weight is an issue then roll with the Diavel. I have no experience on this new Rocket but this is a solid looking and performing bike based on what I have seen in video. P.S. For anyone that thinks the VMAX cannot corner try riding one and if you have, try not riding it like a Harley.

[@charlieryan1736]

Great comparison video 👍🏻

[@MrBillyRR]

Triumph have looked at the Diavel, kept the nice single sided swingarm and stuff, sorted out all the ugly air scoops and crap, and turned it into a proper Beast. Rocket wins hands down in my opinion.

[@souranumaji4213]

Rocket 3 is all about showing off power and torque

[@mrv9467]

I am Italian but I like the rocket 3 better. I mean, these bikes are supposed to be sport "muscle" cruisers/touring, and Triumph did a better job interpreting the concept I think. Even as far as design, the rocket 3 still has that beautiful retro-feeling that a cruiser should have, plus it looks more comfortable for long-distance rides, and I get the feeling it can carry more stuff than the Diavel.

[@mrv9467]

Also... do you guys know the fuel consumption and the range of the bikes? That counts too on a touring bike.

[@mrdiavel4807]

I have the Diavel S and can attest it’s a weapon against nearly everything else out there , it still amazes me after 6 months of ownership how wickedly fast it is and despite its looks and that fat rear tyre it handles incredible through the twisty bits , on British B roads there’s very little that can keep up with it , it’s so tractable and the Ohlins set up right is so compliant yet loads of feed back compared to an out and out RR style of thing it’s actually a faster bike point to point than virtually anything out there just because it’s so rideable . On an RR you feel your on the ragidty edge all the time on UK B roads, you just can’t get the fluidity of point and squirt you can on a Diavel . Track days many could beat it but not by much and on motorways the triumph wins it for mile crunching but sheer hooligan fun the Diavel has it . Of course that will all change when the new street fighter V4 arrives , I ve got one also on order and reckon it’s going to monster everything out there, Paginale performance but Diavel ridability, my dealer rep (ex racer) has riden one. and says it’s absolutely mental , on a twisty A road nothing can live with it. . Can’t wait till April :-) . I do also like the triumph and it’s an amazing bike and what it can do for such a size and weight but for me every time I got to the interesting roads and a Diavel flys past me I would be constantly mifted.

[@guiT39]

Ok. Rocket 3 GT wins then. Guess It would be safe to assume it is currently the best modern cruiser bike in the world right now...

[@jubin2611]

*Rocket is a perfect combination of sophistication, perfection, muscularity and class*

[@NarekAvetisyan]

Even if the GT is more comfortable than the R. I think I'm still going to buy the R because I ride more in urban areas than rural.

[@tommydillon4931]

The triumph looks better I won't mind having one in the garage .

[@sudhakarvarun6619]

Tommy Dillon me too but my back account definitely wud mind

[@skyworks1621]

I like your words at the end. It is all up the syle of the rider.

[@fhv.m2k50]

I owe one Rocket 3 R n its fantabulous awesome... It doesn't ride but it Glides..... Im loving it.

[@ronmarvicsin7709]

Honest video about choosing one or the other. Both really great bikes. I love the Ducati but I hear it’s very expensive to maintain. I like the smooth ride of the Rocket.

[@gur262]

Of course, the giant Tyre alone. Both ain't reasonable in any way. Powerbikes.

[@sulochananikam3812]

After the launch of of Rocket 3, I decided to buy it and I bought it and I think that I hadn't made a mistake

[@deepakpatil87]

How much it cost on road? Service cost per year?

[@northerniltree]

Did you buy it after you bought it?

[@srtspeedy4983]

I would go for the diavel becouse that big V Twin and its faster and more agile bike. The rocket when I saw it in person looked a bit cheap surprisingly. I will pay the same for my standard Diavel 1260 as the R3 but with a full Termi on it.

[@MC-Racing]

The rocket all day long, if i was ever to want a bike of that kind :-)

[@2004lesk01]

yep mee too , sorry but it even looks better than the diavel

[@karlosh9286]

I want a Rocket 3 , I just don't have a big enough bike shed or the spare £20K. Guess I'll have to be happy with my much lighter Speed Twin and Street Triple ! I wouldn't swap them both in for a Rocket.

[@MC-Racing]

@@karlosh9286 ill keep my mt09, xj6 diversion vf500f2 and My gsxr 750 track bike in stead :-)

[@karlosh9286]

@@MC-Racing exactly , they've all got plenty of power, handle well, and you can push them around easily. Even my Speed Twin is a bit more difficult than the Street Triple to push around, and that's only comparing 168 kg dry with 196 kg dry. Approx 290 Kg dry Rocket sounds like hard work !

[@justinneill5003]

listepikster Ditto on the M109. I I did consider the Rocket 3 but at 5’7” I didn’t fancy the higher seat height with all that weight balanced on my toes at the lights. I can flat foot the M109, it also has massive torque and very stable at speed on the highway.

[@josh786manchester]

Rocket 3: comfortable Diavel: sporty Which one do you prefer.

[@dickjohnson7845]

Diavel = ugly. I’m a Ducati fan, but it’s not pretty

[@ErikterMaat]

The Rocket 3 is a beauty! A big fat muscle bike, and I'll be taking it for a test ride soon. Looking forward to it! Unfortunately I own a Ducati Diavel Cromo with an Akrapovic slip on and every time I ride this devil I can't get the smile of my face for hours.....But hey, let's give it a try!

[@94concours]

As an owner of a 2017 Rocket III Roadster, I have no plans to get this one. Triumph moved away from the Rocket being a muscle cruiser, and turned it into a comfortable sport bike, like the Diavel.

[@shegocrazy]

If you want either of these 2 bikes then pose value is high on the criteria. Case closed. Triumph wins.

[@howardhunt1730]

I'd take the Rocket. Love that British iron...t140,850 commando and sprint g t. Great reviews.

[@macmovieman1]

I was really looking forward to this review. Its the Rocket 3 for me but I do need to put some test time in the saddle at my local dealer. I have had an FJR1300, then moved to the BMW GTL and now I am looking at the Rocket 3 or the Indian Challenger and trying to decided. Converting to a touring bike is going to need to be factored into my overall cost and the Indian comes almost complete but that Rocket 3 looks like it would be a blast to ride if I can find the right touring setup.

[@boo0_o]

It will be a hard choice but taste wise, would definitely go for the Rocket III.

[@critch.]

I know not everyone buys a bike for tank range but the rocket is only 138 miles (real word prob just over a 100). What's the diavel? Also weight difference is significant. Love Triumph bikes but not sure about the rocket.

[@22duke]

And then there is the aesthetics, proportions and stance. Which I personally would say the Rocket 3 R/GT wins with a big margin 🏆 Btw. Great “aftermath” review 👍🏼

[@edmaluf]

Add the V-max to the equation.

[@LFLFG]

I'm expecting what Yamaha will do

[@bradgauthier8047]

They better have gas stations up in the mountains if the V-max is gonna be added .

[@LFLFG]

Brad Gauthier lol you are right. It’s a drunk bike

[@edmaluf]

Brad Gauthier lol. I guess so. To be honest, I've never ridden any of the three. Is the V-Max that much worse than the Triumph? The British bike is, after all, a 2.5 liter. Bigger than many cars...

[@LFLFG]

edmaluf you can expect from the Vmax much more fuel consumption than the Rocket. Vmax 1700 has a small tank of 15 litres and at slow riding an minimum of 9l/100km. In the order hand it gives you a big smile for the crazy power you have at the rear wheel

[@vatsal1793]

Great Video! Loved the subtle subscription reminder in the start. Wish more YTbers did that..!

[@RRSmurf]

Rocket 3 for me; if I want a sporty bike (and I do) I'll get a proper one.

[@marcusjamesOG]

This is the "cruiser" market so handling through tight canyons is NOT the priorty. Clearly the Triumph is the better cruiser. I'm really bothered when reviewers review a cruiser as though it should handle like a sport bike. The Ducati Diavel really should be compared to the Japanese naked sport and hyper sport bikes.

[@wartits]

Had one on test for a week and it's not a cruiser. Think hotrod, think near handling of a sports bike... I ride an R1 normally, the R3 blew my balls off.

[@kirkc9593]

Shad has been making hard side cases and hard top cases for the diavel for years now. I have the SH36 Carbon model and they’re seriously awesome! Only cost around $530 for the side bags or there’s an option to purchase a lining bag for both side cases for an extra $100. The lining bags are pretty cool as they line the entire inside of the cases, but are removable with a shoulder strap acting almost as a backpack. The SH36 model bags have a ton of room where each one can fit a 2XL helmet. If carrying a helmet the bag even has straps inside to hold your helmet firmly in place! Amazing bags and awesome quality for the price

[@awaken90]

Gr8 comparision without being overtly lengthy... kudos

[@bananiarz1972]

this is top of the top. I personally prefer rocket. torque. 50 kg less for diavel not equal almost 100Nm greater in rocket. 0-100 is not everything. when you want an extreme motorcycle, you should have it from start to finish.

[@anthonyvickers5346]

Shaft Drive beats chain any day. as part of the rating, Triumph wins.

[@justcoolin3384]

Which one is more expensive to maintain? Ie parts?

[@R3RLEE]

Triumph all day! Ridiculously expensive, you'll need a fixing kit for that!! Lol Diavel parts and accessories are not as expensive as you would think!!

[@justcoolin3384]

@Lee Justin Triumph all day for sure. Fixing kit huh? Lol.

[@kirarittberg5088]

Suzuki v strom, if you consider reliability and operational cost it kills these bikes. It is better handling as well.

[@whatthefitt]

⁠@@kirarittberg5088 you’re kidding! I owned a Vstrom 650XT and now own a Diavel 1260s. Don’t get me wrong.. the Vstrom is a very good bike. Speed and performance aside, the Diavel beats the Vstrom in terms of handling hands down. The Vstrom is top heavy and bulkier. The Diavel while not a small bike, keeps the weight low and isn’t as bulky as the Vstrom. Most will be able to flat foot on the Diavel while many wouldn’t be able to on the Vstrom as it’s much taller. The Diavel is pretty reliable.. it’s not like older Ducati models where reliability is an issue.

[@78Outlaw]

Love my 3R which I got after the visor down Review. It’s the way it makes power, any gear, any speed and always smooth immediate grunt which is what makes it such a great bike to own. You don’t have to go into nutter mode to go fast, it wafts. I really thought hard about the Diavel but after I passed one I was happy with my decision. Next time who knows but the Rocket is so unique 😎

[@ducatimale]

The handling of the Ducati 'just that little bit better'. Jeez lads. You have GOT to be kidding!!! The Diavel is hilarious fun on twisty roads as it's such a contradiction that a bike like that can do what it is capable of. Constant grin factor! I do appreciate you can have different opinions on things but really.

[@MrBillyRR]

Sorry mate, you just have to read through the comments to see that the King is Dead. Long Live the New King !!!

[@jedmagz7691]

Both mint bits of kit! I have and picked the Diavel 1260s in black over the Rocket .... but if I had the cash, I would have both 😂 Now if we where talking about Rocket TFC version ... that would my pick all day long, stunning bike !!! At the end of the day, you can’t really go wrong ;)

[@CammyMoto]

As a Ducati owner, I think the Rocket3 will add more value to a riders experiences over the long run.

[@anthonycorisdeo2808]

Currently ride a 2012 Diavel. Contemplating whether to get another Diavel, or a Rocket 3.

[@5up614]

Really hard to compare these bikes in my opinion. Ive owned the 2015 diavel ti, 2016 x diavel s, and my 240 rwhp 2014 r3 roadster. Even the two ducatis were completely different bikes and the rocket was much more refined even as old as the tech was. But i believe that was because of the inline 3 cylinder configeration over the character of the l twin thumbers of the duc. Cant wait to see what carpenter does with the new 2500cc r3 and whos going to get on the band wagon for tuning to make a steller engine packager work.. The r3 is still going to be about brute muscle. imo...

[@tabrezmohammad3689]

Rocket 3 is a very special bike, looks very much strong and it is too. Amazing powerful machine, a great work from trumph engineering team. They are great minds who are developing these robust machines to ride and fulfill our dreams, I hope one day I will sure buy this bike. Let me do more hard work first to earn such amount of money. Tnx bye bye.

[@MrAndrew1953]

As you say a lot depends on what sort of riding you want to use the bikes for. Only an extended test ride would tell you that.

[@donwolf9490]

My friend wants the Triumph, I am so in love with the Diaval. So we just agreed we buying them and we going to have fun times

[@gorillamoto5329]

I like the dual headlights that is signature Triumph, but they need an update on the Rocket lll. The round shape dates it, imo

[@pb9874]

Could anyone please tell me where this was filmed? Thanks!

[@atinnarang4932]

Please do a detailed comparison between triumph rocket 3 & ducati xdiavel/diavel Do mention the heat management

[@2timesasausage]

Both great bikes ( haven't drive the triumph) but as always, what makes you wanna go for a ride and what makes U say I should go for a ride. Can't wait to test ride the triumph.

[@ducatiford]

Isn't that the same torque figure as the older rocket 3 roadster?

[@seahunter75]

I had this decision to make and chose the Diavel! :)

[@almeinuno]

These motorcycles are top. For me the triumph rocket 3 tfc is the dream, then Vmax. But cant afford any of those so maybe i´ll do a trailler so my flat 6 goldwing can tow my ducati s4r so i can go confy to the mountain and there i can keep on gas on S4R on the great curves ;)... Great Job on the review. It´s not what you have, its how you feel it! Peace!

[@2wrdr]

"Get yourself an extended test ride" In the US that might work if you were looking at HDs which do make large displacements, but they seem to trade heat, vibration, and noise as an excuse for power so no thanks.

[@wanton1234]

I have Triumph 1200 scrambler and the Harley street glide. both are amazing bikes, for what they are designed for. the Harley was made to cruse 80-90 MPH all day long on the highways and does okay in the twistys. The scrambler was made to 'scramble' around town and hit the fire roads out in the woods or desert. I live north east of LA, we have both in abundance and both bikes are perfect for what they do. I didn't buy either bike to race the fuck around on.... every twisty in the mountains and the desert roads all have 'multiple' crosses/shrines along side the of the road for those guys.

[@2wrdr]

@@wanton1234 My biggest problem with cruisers of any brand is not only the missing performance characteristics but what that also means in terms of safety. It's sluggish, less responsive to quick turns, and less quick to stop. The excuse for this has always been "well it's a cruiser". Bad answer, high quality braking belongs on every category of motorcycles. A motorcycle should be quick to change direction, quick to accelerate, and be able to slow or stop very quickly. Why, you ask? Because when a car pulls out in front of you or moves over into your lane, all the cool shiny parts in the world won't help you avoid a safety hazard. We already take on a certain amount of risk riding a motorcycle. The motorcycle should always be far more agile than a car. Unfortunately for cruisers, Harley set the standards which have been very low and slow to improve in terms of performance that could save your life.

[@wanton1234]

​@@2wrdr well my bike stops and handles fine for a 900 POUND MOTORCYCLE, plus 235 POUNDS of rider... AND I knew what I was buying. I didn't think I was getting a honda rebel. (408 pounds) if you drive to fast to control your machine, don't blame the machine AND 'your biggest problem' doesn't concern me truthfully. not to be harsh however the 'my biggest problem' statement is a statement similar to 'the best pizza is' etc.... seriously.... $.02

[@2wrdr]

@@wanton1234 Key words "for a 900 pound motorcycle". You made my point. Obviously your better off on your Scrambler in an emergency. It's ok for you, just not for me.

[@ronaldk.wileyjr.5476]

Both are beautiful...Rocket 4me

[@blaiserodrigues2990]

Where is this place?

[@visordown]

Rocket 3 is Tenerife, Canary Islands. Diavel is Málaga. Both Spain.

[@nightmareuk69]

Looking at an R3 to replace my MT01 but disappointed to see the top speeds were very similar. Probably hang on to the MR for a little while longer to get a cheaper R3.

[@TwitchyMovies]

I much prefer the looks of the Rocket 3 thats an amazing looking bike

[@nupecarrera]

I had a Diavel. Fun on short rides. A beast for any ride over 100 miles. It wore me out.

[@JpOcDenver]

Ergos? Suspension? Wind?

[@nupecarrera]

@@JpOcDenver Truthfully all three. Make sure your ergos fit. I would have been better of if I could move my hips back.

[@stevelawrie9115]

Look, it's horses for courses but personally, if I was to buy another Ducati, I wouldn't buy a cruiser. They do what they do so well and I think the Diavel is just chasing the market.They are expensive though :)

[@syumassh]

Great breakdown on the power delivery of both bikes; well said. The Diavel 1260/1260S really feels like it’s hammering you down the road. It’s almost scary; especially in a slightly non-Attack position.

[@sallubhai4631]

Well presented i sub your chanel. Details are more simple to understand well done keep it up the such good video

[@visordown]

Thank you very much

[@marcusjamesOG]

You're staying the old data for engine size for Rocket 3.. it's over 2450cc

[@John_Neves]

These bikes, are both just so cool, that i cant make up my mind! I think i´ll just keep the ones i already own, and spend the cash on journeys :D

[@andyb2311]

really interested on a pillion passenger for both these bikes , the rocket 3 just seems like it has been designed with that in mind . great review .

[@balesmith8936]

whats he higher speed ??? like a 100 miles and above??

[@2004lesk01]

it looks better than the Diavel, its the front i dont like of the Diavel, something about that weird headlight!! so looks hands down R3

[@Thomas_Glavelis]

Rocket 3 for me!!

[@TommyBarnezTV]

Havent ridden the Diavel yet, will have to give it a go

[@itsmeraj4234]

My fvrt rocket 3

[@arodrigues1544]

Can you compare the vstorm 650 vs versys 650 vs tracer 700 (the Middlewheight comparision) Thanks.

[@matkliko3309]

i am not a motorcycle driver but the rocket 3 is my choice.

[@angelo1000r]

Beautiful video! Where did you film 🎞 this?