Celebrating Category-Busting Motorcycles - Triumph Rocket 3 and Ducati Diavel V4

[@elithegreat6463]

My 2023 Rocket-3R is a Marvel of engineering and it's an Attention Whore. I attract so much attention on Bike Nights with this Bike that it's addicting, and thats half of the pleasure of owning it. It's Smooth, an absolute Beast, and that Nuclear Reactor of an engine, that actually counters the Earth's rotation in the opposite direction with its TORQUE. It's the only Bike in my 62 years of life and 40 yrs of riding, to say, it's my Forever Bike. Triumph fit & Finish lately is amazing, so I got a second Triumph to keep my Rocket company, a 2024 Tiger 900-GT-Pro.

[@frankhayward7134]

I agree. I have the Vandemon exhaust and brent tune on my 221 and I love it

[@itssanktime82]

Maaaan I wish Yamaha was still making the vmax.

[@marscruz]

You're right. The V-Max was the OG. Right after I bought my BMW K75 (it was a brand new model) I bumped into a V-Max owner while filling up at a local gas station. We got talking and we both were interested in the other guy's bike. We traded off and rode a few miles to check out what the other guy's bike was like. That V-Max was brutal and so gutsy. He liked the smoothness and refinement of the Beemer. It was a good day.

[@robertclark5733]

I thought the original V max was , by far the worst motorcycle I ever rode. Horrid thing. but loved the 2nd gen 1700cc version WAS fun, i spent 2 weeks riding around Spain on that but when thrashed only got 65 miles per tank! The capacity was tiny...

[@marscruz]

@@robertclark5733 Yeah, I was happy that I chose the Beemer rather than the V-Max after riding his bike. The Max was exhilarating in a straight line but wasn't very practical. When all the carbs kicked in it was _quick._ But it didn't suit my needs.

[@RickGreen_McNutt]

@@marscruz I'd say the Honda V65 Magna was the OG, since it was out 2 years before the Vmax.

[@marscruz]

@@RickGreen_McNutt Yeah, maybe so, but it was marketed to a typical sporting rider. The V-Max attracted those who just wanted straight line acceleration. It made no pretensions about being a sport bike. The Honda was a more well-rounded package.

[@kireatanasov6387]

I use my 2022 Rocket 3r as a daily commuter in NY and it’s a beast. You make friends everywhere you stop.

[@frankhayward7134]

True

[@Tim_Tusk]

The Rocket GT all day. I’ve ridden both and you’re right if you’re getting a Diavel just get a streetfighter. There’s nothing like a Rocket GT in terms of power and torque which is why nothing feels like it. Also you said the HP was 140 but that was the original, the new Storm is 182 HP

[@whatthefitt]

Have you rode the streetfighter? The Diavel and the streetfighter are 2 total different bikes.

[@timh6845]

The Diavel is far more interesting that the Streetfighter and far better for pillions

[@frankhayward7134]

I have the 221 and I agree. Hold on to the handle bars at all times

[@RichDunn]

The 10k service intervals and shaft-drive of the Rocket are things potential owners would genuinely be interested in hearing. The Triumph's clocks are dated, but the build quality is sublime. Having owned a number of Ducati V4's and a Rocket 3R, I can say that the Ducati produces less heat (not more) when stopped at the lights in high temperatures. If buying again, I'd have the Rocket all day long. It's just so characterful, an insanely stupid idea for a production bike - which is why we love it.

[@3wheelmannc860]

Both are nice and have many possibilities for fun and daily use. For me, I would like the Triumph R3...just because. The only major thing missing for me is a windshield that is usable, not one of those micro shields.

[@raulsanchezjr4048]

They have one that's electronically adjustable too! I only use it on long trips, like when we head to Vegas

[@whammo11224]

For two heavy large bikes, you guys handled those curves like a boss!

[@jorgecgonzalez9976]

Ducati Diavel is not weird it's badass.

[@masterrazvan]

Hello, I have to admit these guys from Italy did a good job Ducati Diavel V4!

[@jonnycando]

This comparo does make sense! Two super cruisers and two ways of achieving it!

[@charl12]

Really miss John Burns.

[@joeblow5037]

I am #1 fan. His Goldwing and childs electric scooter articles were brilliant.

[@zenryder1959]

I appreciated his “experienced” rider perspective…and as a rabid advocate of cruise control.

[@urbanstrencan]

This is the test I have been waiting for, these two bikes made new category for itself ❤❤😊 Great video ❤❤

[@RedlineFeline]

My Rocket 3 GT is simply premium. Worth every penny.

[@splodge5714]

Love the Rocket 3 but not this blacked out version. Great review, cheers.🚀🚀🚀

[@radicalkonrad765]

The rocket may not handle as well but damn it's such a badass motorcycle I'd have to pick it

[@raulsanchezjr4048]

The rocket 3 R is sick af amd hauls ass like no other

[@raulsanchezjr4048]

You can always add the back pad and the adjustable windshield and cruise with the R! I just like the straight muscle bars not the cruiser style bars

[@eXpeDiEnt89]

The Diavel V4 is for people who want a Yamaha VMAX.

[@warpspeed9877]

Rocket 3 is a much more targeted bike. And a whole lot better made. And a much smoother ride. If you had to ride for 500 miles and arrive feeling fresh and"non-battered" you would always chose the Rocket. If you want to ride for 15 miles to grab a coffee and look cool while you're doing it, you will pick the Ducati.

[@corujario2752]

The best definition for this bikes is: Amazing unique machines. Not perfect in any sense but the object of dreams for many.

[@boogaB7]

Funny that I sat on the V4 cruisers and decided to get the V2 Streetfighter, but the Rocket could be my next bike.

[@raulsanchezjr4048]

Thing is a beast!!!

[@damiengvideos4337]

Diavel V4 is perfect for me. Not quite a cruiser, still handles and has power up top and low down but not uphigh on my wrists like the Streetfighter. Perfect combination ... exactly what I wanted after 20 years of 1000 CC Supersports.

[@aaronkelley6335]

Great vid. I loved the V-Twin Diavel and am not sold on the V4 version. The Rocket 3 is my current top pick to replace my 1290 SDR in a couple of years.

[@Mark-oc4un]

It’s pretty clear/ they are muscle cursers !

[@dcxplant]

Like the Yam V-Max before these, no range. What a shame.

[@raulsanchezjr4048]

The rocket has range! I've gotten 220miles just cruising on mine!

[@ferscarlata-portalmotolatino]

Nice job guys! 2 excellent bikes every seasoned rider should try at least for a weekend trip

[@pocotaligoswampfox4789]

Check out the two guys who love riding laying on top of bikes like R6s, with all of their weight on their hands, and with their heels practically touching the back of their thighs trying to understand why anyone would want to own anything else. They are mystified.

[@zenryder1959]

I’ve ridden both, and quite a few bikes in my 60+ years, but I didn’t fall in love with either one, so neither would be a keeper for me. But either one could be the perfect bike for someone…just not me. The Rocket’s power was impressive, but surprisingly only after it spooled up quite a bit. I was disappointed that it didn’t have the stump pulling torque at low r’s (like a Harley M8). It feels W-I-D-E and heavy in the curves, and at parking lot speeds. The COG felt much higher than a typical modern Harley, but I’m more “fun size”, so it may not feel that way to a bigger, taller person. The Diavel’s nimbleness was impressive. I could barely tell that it wore a 240 on the rear (like the Rocket). Unlike a HD Fat Boy (also with a 240) which one must push down to keep it leaned over in the curves. The power was ok, but it too had to be revved out. Strange for a muscle cruiser. I found the KTM 1290R to have much better low end power. Too bad the Ducati’s cost of ownership will be even higher, with twice as many valves to check and shim. Expect to see several for sale just before the first major service is due. Niggle was that you can’t cancel cruise control by rolling the throttle forward, like on every other bike I’ve ridden. Both fun in their own way, but neither would be suitable for a one-bike garage, for me. Both are too focused to be a good “all rounder” but a good second or third bike to alternate for variety.

[@c0c0asauce]

I used to lust after the 1st gen Diavel. The rocket III has never been that interesting to me. They built a motorcycle capable of towing a 10' fishing boat but I can't imagine anyone actually doing that 😂. If it was turbo charged it could easily make 300hp/300ftlbs on pump gas with conservative ignition timing. Kershaw is the only knife I ride with.

[@SudeepC1973]

Presidents of companies and leaders of motorcycle gangs. Status plus performance. Trend setters.

[@EclecticGearhead]

They are Muscle Bikes.

[@g.g.8279]

I owned a Streetfighter V4s and sold it for a Diavel V4… and I regret it! The rawness of a muscle bike like this is completely missing . It’s more like a multistrada as a naked bike. The rocket is much more complete as a concept

[@english.ricardo]

Cool review guys.

[@JackWoodrup]

I owned both an X-Diavel and a Diavel 1260. Both were amazing bikes. So fun to ride. I argued they cruise better than any sports bike and they sports bike better than any cruiser. The V4 though is a bit ugly. If i was picking between these two the Triumph would be the choice. Also a monster bike, just way better looking. Ultimately it comes down to the love of riding you do and enjoy.

[@TheFirstCause]

They totally screwed up the front of the Diavel V4. I like the rear, the rear three quarters view, but the front looks bulbous and bubbly. The headlight is like an inflated balloon version of the 1260. Then the odd droopy horn vents with the weird sideways V fairing under them. Just not as cohesive, and badass as the edgy 1260 front end.

[@BlackHeart_YouTube_Channel]

The Rocket is cool but it rides like a tank. I was blown away by the Diavel.

[@raulsanchezjr4048]

The rocket 3R don't feel like a tank is as agile if not more than the diavel and hella faster! 188hp and 166lb ft of torque! Noone can touch it!!!

[@BlackHeart_YouTube_Channel]

@@raulsanchezjr4048 it's not faster and way less agile than a diavel. cool acceleration but not as nimble and driveable as the Diavel. Don't talk bullshit.

[@cs1375]

First bike i have rode with forward pegs was a Rocket. So weird trying to find the pegs. I loved the bike. I own Street Triple but if I had a second bike in the garage it would probably be the Ducati, although i haven't rode one. The look, its not something you are expecting.

[@firmfoundation7421]

I owned a 2021 Rocket 3r rode it for a while and even converted it to GT. It ticked almost all of the boxes except I needed a wicked sounding machine because to be honest all that torque didn't quite do it for me.I traded it for a Ducati 1260s because I always wanted one. It came with an Arrow race exhaust ( so glad I don't live in California) and the exhaust note is intoxicating. It sounds wicked and it performs as well as the Rocket and handles better. I wouldn't go for the V4. I plan on keeping it I am still thriled every time I start the engine. I have customised it a little bit to make it my own and it gets as many admiring commnets as my Rocket did. Cruiser riders and sports bike riders seem to appreciate it too. The new Storm version of the Rocket has me tempted though.

[@frankhayward7134]

Stop comparing a Diavel to a Rocket 3. I own a Rocket with the Vandemon exhaust and Brent tune. It's an awesome experience. Btw I am a Ducati lover. I have a V4r, 1098s 1299FE, multistrada v4rs, to name a few. But when I want to put on saddle bags and cruise, I take out the Rocket. Hold on to the handle bars!! 😂

[@MrWhitelightning73]

Two sweet bikes ❤

[@eastcoastmod]

As someone in the market for a new ride, the streetfighter v4 seat is just way too high for my short inseam. The diavel, on the other hand felt so good to sit on. Do I wish the SFV4 was shorter, yes but it isn't. The diavel will be in the garage soon.

[@jeffreyastjohn]

Can they take a passenger? I mean, for more than going to lunch or something. They’d both be a blast but it’d be fun if you could do a day in the mountains two-up.

[@Diabeekei]

166 ft lbs and 178 hp for the storm r sir!

[@brianglendenning1632]

225 Nm is a heck of a lot of torque. Close to twice the torque of an s1000 and 2.5 times the capacity. Nuts, in a good way

[@AllMightyMuthius]

Don't triumph claim 180hp on the rocket?

[@raulsanchezjr4048]

Amd 166lb ft of torque too!!!

[@RacingAnt]

Yep. Someone got the specs from the original bike.

[@nickc5341]

I prefer the last gen diavel 1260s over the V4. The feel of quality felt a little more premium on the 1260s and xdiavel over the new v4 diavel as well. Sat on the new v4 diavel and i felt it seemed more plastic feeling or like ducati cheaped out somewhere. Also, I prefer the look of the last gen diavel over the v4 gen as well. Loved how the last gen diavel sounded with the termignoni exhaust. The L-twin was special and something else. The V4 is cool but it just doesnt have the same feel as the last gen diavel. Id much rather buy the street fighter V4 if i want that engine in a upright bike. As for the new rocket 3 storm, i love the new colors especially the black and blue and so I just put one on order for me in the GT version. The rocket 3 feels very premium. Everything you touch on that bike is quality feeling. Its not about being the fastest bike with the rocket 3, its more so about the uniqueness and specialty of the bike when you ride it. Its very quick and the way it makes you feel with all that torque is so fun. I dont get the feeling even on a 1000cc sport bike. The rocket 3 is just something else and stands out above the rest in my opinion. It will be my 5th bike and probably the last bike i buy as im approachig my mid 40s now. I dont think you could go wrong with either the Rocket 3 or diavel. I just prefer the triumph.

[@michaellowery928]

No V-Max??? Great show. Keep ‘em coming.

[@raulsanchezjr4048]

The triumph rocket 3 R eats the Vmax and I've had 2 Vmaxes! This triumph is a monster!!! 188hp and 166lb ft! It's a beast!!!

[@michaellowery928]

It looks like a beast. I just thought it would be have been a worthy comparison as it was one of the bikes that started the genre of muscle cruiser back in ‘85. I had a ‘84 Honda V65 Saber.

[@daveplem]

“Power Bruiser”

[@tomcuneo7070]

Remake this when the Buell Super Cruiser comes out

[@1990-t1j]

The Rocket is brilliant. Heavy, but it's down low. It could do with a reverse gear, then it would be perfect. Not keen on the Diavel. Is Evans dead? Just googled it. How sad. RIP, Evans. I used to enjoy his understated style.

[@johnnymacLA]

Hey guys! Thanks for the video! I watched to see if you mention where you were riding here, but didn't hear it or missed it. Since I live in So Cal, and ride a lot through the Santa Monica mountains (especially around Malibu), this looks awfully familiar to me. But I couldn't quite identify the specific road. Could you share? It looks like an amazing ride! Thanks!

[@Boxer1250RT]

Too much Weed use in Design Departments causes hallucination, impaired judgement, etc and these are the prime examples. They both have very low sales volumes and therefore stay in Dealer inventory for months even years. Brand new 2023 Diavel is offered $5K off on Cycle Trader without even negotiation. But, some shameless Dealers will tag on $2K worth of Dealer Fees to make up for the loss.

[@raulsanchezjr4048]

You have no idea or clue bruh! Stay homr

[@raulsanchezjr4048]

Home

[@ehiggins7476]

Where is Mr Burns?

[@h34p]

when KTM 890 SMT??

[@michaelhayward7572]

Fair few back patch club members in the UK have moved from Harleys to Rocket 3's... just sayin'...

[@DanielKristianto-t9x]

Where is Yamaha VMAX

[@motorcyclementor1785]

The R3 Storm is a 189 hp- the old R3 was 148.

[@RacingAnt]

Original. From 2020, it's had 165bhp. Stunned they got that this wrong...

[@charlesgutscher1923]

Funny enough. I have a Streetfighter V4S snd have thiught about adding the diavel bevause its simplt much more comfortable, you can add a screen and bags, ride it anywhere, has cruise. Etc. And i dont like the forward foot peg cruiser ridong style. So the diavel is a cruiser of sorts that id actually ride daily snd keeo the Streetfighter fkr the track snd twisties

[@78Outlaw]

Quoted Rocket stats misquoted at start of video 🤷‍♂️ Okay not a super naked but Rocket 3R handles just fine on twisty roads, just needs to be hustled harder on the bars, 💪 just have to shove it in Sport and man up 💪 🚀 Diavel just a big super naked, Rocket a power cruiser, agree not in the same category and Diavel not nearly as special Nothing rolls on mid gear 30-100 like a Rocket 🚀 short of a ZH2

[@orenovadia6590]

As much as I hate to say it ... I think the sportster s should be here

[@raulsanchezjr4048]

Lmao

[@conalloreilly3543]

Hey chaps! Great review. I'd say the people buying these bikes are 'rich nutters', no offense. If I had the money I'd have both, and possibly a goldwind for longer trips! There's a £100 k garage eh? C 👍

[@kpanagos]

Muscle bikes?

[@randythayer8440]

I wouldn't be caught dead on either one of these ridiculous things! Something that a Transformer or Musk might like.

[@hapyharyhard0n581]

My father was Kershaws first employee and vice president for 14yrs. My "Godfather" IS Pete Kershaw. I grew up with quality knives. ...they sold out long ago and are China made and it shows. Find a better sponsor.

[@brucecormack1840]

Following that thing looks like a truck

[@edwardkim1349]

😎

[@Duca7773]

i am the buyer and i got it as my first bike

[@tigerbalm666]

GT - Grand Touring?

[@johnsumser9743]

Without any luggage, of course.

[@quacker998]

Triumphs rear suspension could do with some attention - bouncing all over the place. Can’t believe you guys can ‘test’ a bike without basically sorting the suspension before you ride when it can completely transform a bike from crap to brilliant. 🙄

[@jlewis02]

VMAX is still king

[@raulsanchezjr4048]

No more! Triumph Rocket3 R is

[@bikramdhillon4350]

0:43. Wait what? "Each of these pistons are 820 cc". So if rocket 3 has not 2458 but 820 cc... What does that make each of the piston of Diavel. Its a 4 cylinder 1158cc. Lets do the math- 289 cc??? Its not even funny. Please get ur facts right b4 makn a video.

[@RacingAnt]

What are you trying to say? What did they get wrong? I think you should check your facts.

[@bikramdhillon4350]

⁠@@RacingAnt. Its total 3 cylinders with each one of them being 2458 cc. 2458 cc is not the aggregate of 3 cylinders. It is the size of each cylinder.

[@mitchc3569]

2 of the Ugliest 2 wheel conveyances ever created .

[@raulsanchezjr4048]

You still don't have one