Triumph - "What's New" Documentary (March, 1982)

[@edwinjahnes2739]

The most underrated band there was. I’ve loved them for 37 years now- always thought they should’ve been bigger than they were.

[@elijahstefanski8537]

They sold alot of music, very big in some places

[@plbutler100]

One musician and two participants, unfortunately that is the Triumph dynamic. It's all Rik Emmett and a Canadian Kiss Show.

[@edwinjahnes2739]

@@plbutler100 - so you think Gil and Mike did nothing? Wow unbelievable

[@ghendar]

Triumph is very underrated, no doubt about it but the most underrated? No, that dubious honor, unfortunately, goes to Kings X.

[@ghendar]

@@edwinjahnes2739 I would never dismiss Mike and Gil's contribution but Rik brought something to the band that went beyond basic blues-type rock. Triumph would have been very different had Rik not been brought into the band. Just look at the Triumph record, Edge of Excess, to see what Triumph was without Rik.

[@doublejake.4846]

I became a Triumph fan back in 1982, i was in sixth grade. I washed and detailed Mom and Dad’s cars on a Saturday morning and got five bucks. Went into my brothers room and stole $5.00 in change, jumped on my bicycle and rode to Kmart and bought Allied Forces, I was hooked. I love many bands and forms of music but through my life I have tried to turn people onto this band and their amazing sound and albums.

[@starexplorers1202]

This documentary is priceless. Seeing them record Fight The Good Fight in the studio just makes the song even more special.

[@budmuffin3841]

Rik alway was amazing and had me wondering how he could sing and play the guitar so well (at the same time) and he humbly admits that he knew he had a gift, and there is no substitute for talent

[@HigzyTeflon]

By the time the video came to its conclusion, I almost felt as if I would need to get up to press STOP and REWIND. Took me way back. I was just starting High School when 'Follow your heart' was released (1984) and that track helped me get through some difficult times. Later on I would discover some of their older music. Oh man, the 80's were such a great time! Best decade, ever!

[@compendiousone8247]

Same I was just starting HS in 1984.

[@meloralovesdarkness2495]

Criminally underrated for Sure! They were Awesome! Thank you for sharing!

[@PUBHEAD1]

Still have this show recorded off tv on vhs. I used to come home from jr high school and watch it over and over again with aspirations of being a successful musician

[@rdhorsey9081]

1978, Triumph actually played at my high school in Etobicoke (BCI). Full light show, on stage in the auditorium My neighbour, Wayne, was the school's social director and managed to snag them in for the show. Believe it or not, not every seat in the Aud was taken! Great, but deafening, & blinding light show.

[@MegaQSH]

Wow my 7th grade teacher recorded this on VHS and played it for us in class back in 1982! I so remember watching this and was fascinated as it was my first exposure to the business behind bands and rock music and made me a Triumph fan. Thanks so much for posting, what a gem!

[@42lookc]

19:11 shows an almost astounding level of insight into business and human nature from a 29 year old. It had to have taken a LOT of experience in both regards to come to that kind of understanding.

[@vickyvain9190]

I was thinking the same thing while listening to Emmett. Wise and mature beyond his years back then

[@JamieTannerPresents]

They've got to be the most self-sufficient band of all time. Is one of the guys a personal chef for the group on tour? wow & thx for sharing this

[@frederiqueb8245]

Merci Bob pour ce petit bijoux. Salut de France 🇨🇦. 58 ans et je les aimes toujours ❤️ autant. 70' 80' les meilleurs années 🎸🇨🇦

[@dan1216]

4:55 Aw, the days of vinyl record stores. Awesome time back then.

[@shorerocks]

God, how I love Rik's voice. Just like 40 years ago.

[@spuds6423]

Triumph was one of the bands that got me through some tough times, especially in Highschool and College. I have met Rik Emmett a few times, he has always been gracious to his fans. Triumph was very popular in Downstate NY and Long Island.

[@42lookc]

I remember coming home from high school one early fall afternoon in 1982 and this episode came on with Triumph as the entire half hour subject. I was a boundless energy 16 years old. My hair stood on end almost the whole show!

[@Miadolph]

This is awesome!!! Anytime I get to see something new from Triumph I'm psyched. Thanks so much for posting this. A hell of a treat!

[@RICCARDOREARDON]

UNCLE~MR.RIK EMMETT IS ONE OF MY ALL TIME FAVORITE GUITARIST... ALWAY'S HAS BEEN.. ALWAY'S WILL BE..

[@gilbzmusic7186]

I recorded this audio from then..didn't have a vcr...I am psyched to see the video of this show again.. I love Gil Moore"s quote " there nothing subtle about it, when your playing in a hockey rink!"

[@movieman1556]

Rare and excellent mini documentary on the band. Rik's answer to the question about other bands complaining about their record company or managers ripping them off is perfect. Great post!! Thank you!!

[@Jimbo1268]

Very cool upload. Triumph was one of my favorites back in the day.

[@TontoEpstein]

Nice opening sequence. "Hey, let's casually stare at each other and pretend to be having an engaging conversation as the camera just happens to zoom in."

[@MarceloRomero360]

Cheeky!

[@spuds6423]

Very 80's production move !!!😁

[@janishart5128]

It's just incredible the amount of detail that goes into setting up a show - and even getting to the show! Fascinating!!

[@paulseano5100]

Great band and no one writes music like Triumph! Notice how a successful band functions in the way the members each describe the business. They were business minded, music minded and knew the inner workings of a record company and their demands upon the artist. Clever guys and they put their fans first and with their incredible talent they surpassed the demands of a record company by staying focused and in control. Too many artists fell for the “ Sucker Deal” : “ Just sign here boys and you’ll make a million.” No entertainment lawyer, no business sense no independent promotion no helping themselves with publicity and management so they fail. Triumph triumphed and were with great individual business acumen. Aside from all of this, their music is fail proof and that’s what makes Triumph, Triumphant! Thanks to Rik, Gill and Mike for their contribution to our receptive ears! Triumph!

[@fastnewbie]

Awesome video Bob, just f'n great, thank you for posting, always wanted to see them in the studio. Still one of my favorite bands of all time, has everything I enjoy, melody, vocals, structure, and GUITAR! First saw them on the Never Surrender tour when I was 18, damn great show, and each year following.

[@mariastewart6290]

So, Triumph was the second concert I had ever attended. I had seen Boston, as my first. Boston 1978- Triumph 1979. I remember seeing a commercial on WICU-TV out of Erie, PA. I took 1 look at the lead singer and told my 2 male friends- we have to go see this group!! We got tickets to the show for the Erie County Field House, as it was known back then. Oh, if I could just go back and relive those years. I was 15. I saw Triumph again in or around 1982. They played at the old Stanley Theater in Pittsburgh, PA. I have seen a multitude of concerts over the past 42 years and with much diversity! I would have to say, they were one of the best!! Thanks for the memories!!!

[@MarceloRomero360]

That's a great story, Maria! Thank you for sharing.👍

[@irishmaninnewyork]

Bob, I can't thank you enough for the hard work you guys did to put this out there. Thank you my friend. Hope to see again at a show soon. Be well. Matty NYC

[@mpuglise]

Thanks for sharing this one Bob

[@bobbaylis]

Thanks, Mark. I'm glad that you enjoyed it.

[@badkatrising3918]

I saw Triumph every time they came through. Canada 🇨🇦 did send lots of great bands to the USA.

[@jamesgoldman6942]

FANTASTIC. Damn they were great. Saw them in Minneapolis and Shreveport. Just A Game & Allied Forces tours. Loudest band Ive ever heard live.

[@dalepearson8475]

Who did they open for in Minneapolis

[@remygaron8311]

I wished i had see this report back then 👏👏👏👏🥁🥁🥁🇨🇦🇨🇦

[@LegShowMagazine]

A very underrated band.

[@dannullmeyer7378]

Way more of a corporate Business than what I would call a rock band of that area but they did know how to sell.

[@garyadams6678]

I caught em in Indianapolis three times in the early 80s. Sold out Market Square Arena 16,000 seats each time. Far from underrated in Indy.

[@danielkenmore265]

I had seen them on the Allied Forces store in New York City at the Palladium how is my first time, and I saw that on every chance I got after that

[@RandRdriver]

I really enjoyed that! Thank You! 🌺

[@gilbzmusic7186]

the Dean flying V guitar was custom made for Rik..one volume control, and the cord jack on the upper v.are the tell-tale signs.......I have a collector edition Dean put out some years ago, 100 of them, Rik signed.

[@tucoblondy1643]

My wife bought me the Dean for our Anniversary 2/100

[@georgearensman6868]

This is one of my favorite rock bands.

[@goteverlastinglife]

I agree with the other comments, this is awesome!

[@kitchenerkissguy]

Saw this on TV way back in the day...

[@mikeb2611]

love seeing the Allied Forces tour footage......its a shame they left so soon

[@edwardbliss8931]

Rock needs to be central to our culture again.

[@takmagic777]

Man…this is gold.

[@franciscod.irlandamendez6727]

Wowww... love Triumph!

[@overtimefreak2685]

eine meiner absoluten Lieblingsbands

[@nashdest]

Triumph was and still is my favorite band. I been to multiple concerts. My first was 38 years ago at Torontos maple leaf gardens.

[@ferox965]

Allied Forces is such a killer record.

[@CanadianCharlie64]

I remember this way back in the 80's

[@ljcalhoun]

Never knew how smart these guys are.

[@rjonboy7608]

Do they really think they played so poorly live? Both times I saw them the entire audience was enthusiastic, cheering, big group hug standing swaying to the music. If there were any problems with acoustics or anything we didn't notice. The only problem was that it ended...🤩

[@willsweat5413]

Triumph and Rush were the best power trios, ever! Although musically different they were both "thoughtful" bands and extremely creative. Triumph should be in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame!

[@atatterson6992]

You wouldn't happen to be Canadian would ya? :-)

[@spuds6423]

​@@atatterson6992You don't have to be but the RR HOF is a joke .. bands like Styx and Boston get snubbed while rappers get in;!🤬🤬🤬🤬

[@atatterson6992]

@@spuds6423 it's worse than a joke. It's an abomination.

[@todd4112]

One of the Canadian Greats !! all time

[@ronditchen6664]

They basically manage themselves they produce themselves had their own studio they made it work when a lot of bands didn't for that reason they should be in the Hall of fame not to forget the great great music they produced put Them in the Hall

[@canuckeh782]

Wow great documentry for 82 . I was 18 liked triumph but was and still am a big maiden fan . Good job though 👏 👍

[@edparry6010]

Great to see this after all these years from my favorite band! Unfortunately the sound is a second ahead of the lips moving. But still awesome none the less! Thanks for posting Bob!👍

[@bobbaylis]

I'm glad that you enjoyed it. There is no audio sync issues for me when I watch it in my browser, everything aligns just fine. If it's not a KZbin or bandwidth issue, then I'm not sure what it might be that you're seeing.

[@wolfpack9958]

Are you kidding me. Triumph in the studio recording the album Allied Forces. Pinch me, I must be dreaming.

[@michaelbujanda8785]

I love it when I see Rik Emmett with his white flying V !!! It's like seeing Batman with his batmobile!!!😊😊☺☺☺ So cool !!! 😎 So choice!!! If I had the $money to have a custom electric guitar to be built, I would have a replica of Rik Emmetts white Dean flying V with a Jackson style pointy head stock!!!!😊☺ I liked when they showed the old tape machines and mixing boards!!!😊☺😃

[@hamhead2765]

Emmets vocals were fkg amazing

[@slicensavepar]

Awesome!

[@bluffcreek9768]

Thanks for posting...got to see the Thunder Seven and Sport Of Kings tour...very memorable still today...does anyone know the particular record store pictured in the video around the 5:00 mark? It looks familiar but I can't place it... .

[@CanadianCharlie64]

I remember this video from 82

[@rev.timothyhafner8108]

Awesome talented band!

[@KevinMasters-t9b]

Saw them at Hara ARENA IN 82 AND Florida Lee Civic Arena they Rock Period!

[@bill1521]

They made great music without all the BS that other bands seemed to need.

[@Deborahtunes]

$50,000 a week to go on the road in 1981/'82? What does it cost today? *Just A Game* is still one of the best album sleeves I've ever seen. Such a cool idea to actually make it into a real game. That's something I miss with CD's. There's no imagination or originality for the artwork that use to go into the album covers...

[@danfitzpatrick4112]

Nothing.. now the corporate greed just sits back , people vote, and the money comes straight to them (American Idol Etc.) without even having to take a monetary chance wondering if anyone will buy the music. Built in guarantee .. Brilliant idea! .. But.. there will never again be the work ethic and true feeling of going to a concert to watch artists that worked their asses off perform live and not be driven by social media. That's okay.. I was there and LIVED IT! Rock on baby! No regrets!

[@Deborahtunes]

@@danfitzpatrick4112 ~ There are still some of the 70's bands still touring today...

[@frederiqueb8245]

Agreed 🎸 les pochettes d'albums c'était quelque chose, l'imaginaire était à l'œuvre ha!!! Les années 80 le top 👍🇨🇦🎸☮️

[@vickyvain9190]

Given inflation I'd expect 4x the prices of 1982. So about $200K a week for an arena level act

[@markpro8039]

good ol canadian boys

[@patrickmcquillan3039]

Love triumph

[@jen3800]

never been a fan of the music but i have nothing but huge respect for the professionalism they show, and the talent ! proud of them as a fellow Canadian!

[@torch8760]

I just realized that Mike is a dead ringer for Harry Shearer from Spinal Tap.

[@spuds6423]

Steve Skingley who is Rik's bass player and I are Doppelgangers... One time Rik thought I was Steve for a quick second but made a joke saying "Hey, you remind me of someone I know!" .😁😁😁

[@terrydintelman2491]

It’s nice to see Rick Springfield enjoying the show 1:45

[@michaelbujanda8785]

I like how they combined musicianship along with showmanship!!!! Their stage show rivaled that of Kiss!!!! Meaning the lights and the pyrotechnics!!!!😊☺

[@patrickmcquillan3039]

they stayed out of the trappings of rock and roll they are very intelligent

[@2112dorf]

Anyone know who won the “Canadian Rubik’s Cube Contest”?

[@mikefink2134]

Triumph compares to Tesla. Both truley were under rated. 2 of the best bands I have ever seen live. I saw the both 5 times. Rock on

[@TabithaReminiec3399]

i've always described Triumph as a power metal prototype band

[@mt9372]

Or, a poor man's Rush : )

[@koolkitties8552]

@@mt9372 Hey they are not a poor mans Rush.They are Triumph- their own sound.

[@spuds6423]

​@@koolkitties8552Agreed and I am a diehard Rush fan!!! Note the Avi 😁

[@christineblack4654]

This Rick Emmett dude was playing Dean guitars wayy before Dime bag lol

[@spuds6423]

Steve Skingley who is Rik's bass player and I are Doppelgangers...(well, for 20 years we were) One time Rik thought I was Steve for a quick second but made a joke saying "Hey, you remind me of someone I know!" .😁😁😁

[@intercommerce]

Great flashback. Cheesiest intro EVER!

[@angusorvid8840]

4:27 "This is what the rock business is all aboot: ray-cords." So Canuckian!

[@seaturtledog]

These guys were true professional artists and put out great albums. Some of the comments that they were underrated I would disagree with. They were huge in the States for touring in the 80s and were constantly played on MTV. I think they faded badly in the 90s because of lack of touring and they broke up soon after. Grunge came in and hard rock bands faded. You have to give Rush props because they kept touring through changes in the industry and that kept their fan base involved.

[@Donhollio]

They were finished by 1988. Rik had a solo album out by 90-91

[@Deborahtunes]

Rik Emmett wanted out. He said the record executives was pushing the band to allow outside writers to come in, because the label wanted a hit song. He wasn't having it...

[@danieldmramos]

Triumph is killer.

[@The_Rockin_Prof]

The live show clips sound better than any of their commercial live albums, though I think "Magic Power" is overdubbed. Even so, when Triumph were at the top of their game, they were an unstoppable force.

[@Luthiart]

Triumph made a lot of fake live videos back in the day.

[@Scottocaster6668]

What's new on the 3rd week of 1982, here in the states...? The death of Randy Rhoads (3-19-1982) R. I. P.

[@Wolffen51]

I vaguely remember this show...but I can’t find any info on the host’s of this program

[@compendiousone8247]

Their names are Wayne Thompson and Sara Wolch. Show was, "What's New" Probably no information online about them sadly.

[@Diggerdog2nd]

What's new in the 3rd week of March 1982.? Randy Rhoads just died

[@metalfan210]

One of my favorite bands and during this period Canada produced the best rock for North America that could compare to British rock because America hand nothing good that would compare 🤘

[@ENGlishJELLo-yk7up]

Sounds A LOT like Geddy Lee from Rush 9:13

[@patrickmcquillan3039]

They were the only band in my opinion that gave rush a run

[@impalaman9707]

Seems like they had a very "libertarian" view of the record business. They were all about taking personal responsibility, rather than blaming others for their problems---or learning from the mistakes of other bands and making sure not to fall into those same pitfalls

[@sbrave]

"Which one to push the hardest"? The band that pays $ and or brings cocaine to the radio station

[@dannullmeyer7378]

It sure used to work that way with payola

[@xaviermarroquin4507]

Cool documentary...BLACK SABBATH DID NOT HAVE AIR PLAY AND SOLD OUT RECORDS.. RIGHT?...haha...

[@michaelr.4878]

Triumph were a big band and were very respected by their peers. However, due to a geographical curse, they didn't reach the commercial level that they deservingly should have. Yes, I will say it. Being based out of Canada (especially at that time/pre-internet) was a curse.

[@MillerGenuineDraft1980]

Being based out of Canada. What does that mean? We are a major first world country with lots of people.

[@michaelr.4878]

​@@MillerGenuineDraft1980 - I am Canadian too. You must be young. Before the internet days...back when you needed major label backing, it was much harder for Canadian bands to make big. Most Canadian acts had to relocate in order to push their careers to the next level. Sure, we hear lots of Canadian bands on the radio...but that is due to the Canadian content laws

[@MillerGenuineDraft1980]

I’m 42

[@impalaman9707]

Not only that, but Canada has no clout with music critics who also double as Rock Hall of Fame gatekeepers. But Canada isn't alone, because the same bias from the West Coast music snobs is also directed toward Midwestern bands. Both the Midwest and Canada are forever accused of not being places where "good art" comes from. Its no one fault they came from Topeka, Kansas--or Flint, Michigan or Mississauga, Ontario--or Winnipeg, Manitoba--but here again, geography is a curse to the "hip police". Rush only made it in, because there was enough rabid fans who would have threatened the rock hall with death threats. Unfortunately, fans of BTO, Styx, Guess Who, or Triumph have no such large following

[@VA3JPX]

Many of the video clips within this Video are from a concert aired on Much Music, in 1987. This is not a genuine March 1982 documentary.

[@bobbaylis]

So, at the 24 second mark when the host comments that it is the third week of March, 1982 and the copyrights at the end of the program show 1982, it's all fake? This video was shared with Rik Emmett himself on his website discussion board and he recalled it being shot shortly after the Allied Forces album was released and that the clips of him at home were actually taken at an apartment that he and his wife were renting when their home was being renovated. Sorry, you're incorrect...this was all shot in 1981 - 1982 and did air in 1982.

[@michaelmcelreath1593]

Va3jpxif you knew anything about Triumph you would be able to tell this was early 80's between Allied Forces and Never Surrender. You can tell by the clothes that Rik is wearing.

[@fazooleq1523]

You're completely wrong

[@dgrundman7499]

VA3JPX This guys a classic uninformed know-it-all that bought a 'Triumph's Greatest Hits' album at the end of their popularity, & tells everyone he's a huge fan while secretly rocking his beloved Justin Bieber CD's behind closed doors. SNORT!!!

[@dangermartin69]

@@dgrundman7499 LOL! I had all their albums, and even had three different album jackets of Rock and Roll Machine. I can still remember getting Never Surrender for Christmas. Too bad Surveillance never had a tour to back it up.

[@atatterson6992]

Wow, the male host of this program, "What's New" is one dry, monotone dude. Must be the son/relative of someone big...:)

[@spuds6423]

No computers, no tracks, no air guitar or lip syncing the vocals so it sounds like the record !!! Some legacy bands are doing it and it's a rip off to the fans!!!

[@mattinri3566]

Terrible Audio

[@bobbaylis]

The original source was likely a VHS recording that someone made when this first aired way back in 1982. The VHS copy that I was given circulated around trading circles and is a multi-generation dub from that original source. What would you expect?

[@spuds6423]

​@@bobbaylisI don't mind... Sound was cheesy back in the 80's... It's authentic and that's what counts... A total time capsule of great music!!!

[@riverjackson6419]

Terrible

[@jen3800]

technology sure has changed! now, i can predict the acoustic response of any array in any venue and do it all in software well in advance. tuning any venue/room takes minutes nowadays!