WAY Different Than I Was Expecting... | 2024 Gibson SG Modern Supreme Wine Red Flame Top Review

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📚Description: The new Modern SG Supreme is finally here for the 2024 line up. With the Modern Les Paul Supreme coming back in late 2023, these quickly became a badly kept secret. This is a rebirth of the 1999 SG Supreme... however the specs are very different this time. They basically look the "look" of a 2000s SG Supreme and the body of a 2016 Supreme and made this weirdly chunky SG with a side output jack and flame maple top! I wasn't a fan of the tones, but maybe that is just me or how the burstbuckers play with my amp.
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[@tonyy.8852]

Heck yeah!!! I usually isn't really a Gibson fan, but this guitar is absolutely beautiful. Hope they make a purple one with gold hardware!!

[@presmasterflash7555]

The colors of royalty! I’d love to see someone Knighted with that in leu of a broadsword!

[@jonathanhudak2059]

Usually am not, not usually isn't lol! All kidding aside a Purple one would be killer!

[@MichaelMortell-s6j]

I’ve been asking the same thing of the Gibson factory here in Tennessee. What I was told is they have the deep purple, which is what they have to sell because it’s stock. However, if you’re at the factory and you want to have gold blocking Grovers and gold home pick ups, they are willing to do that upgrade for you right then and there.

[@papasmamas1]

The SG supreme midnight blue, such a gorgeous beast

[@frankwebster9110]

Man, I love the SG Supremes. Don't have the coin to buy one, but these are the guitars that I dream about. I like a plain top, but this wine red looks extraordinarily good. Fingers crossed for a green or whatever crazy name Gibson gives it The custom color collection has a Teal.. when it hits the wood that it's going on, it is anything but teal. Anyway, these are beautiful!

[@rocktorrocks]

I just wish these had the split diamond custom inlay on the headstock. I feel that looks better.

[@smeagle3295]

it's hideous.. they ALL look better (which is a shame, because this guitar is gorgeous otherwise)

[@samright4661]

😂😂😂It wouldn’t be a supreme with split diamond inlay! Keep up with Gibson models clown . Split Diamond is on customs

[@rocktorrocks]

@@samright4661 The original SG Supremes had split diamond inlays, it’s literally shown in the video. It’s not limited to just customs. I’d give you pass for being wrong but you had to be a dick about it and call me a clown and try to put me down. Do your damn research or just pay attention to the video before calling others out. I was simply saying I preferred the headstock on the original supreme models.

[@rocktorrocks]

@@smeagle3295 Agreed. I like everything on it except the headstock inlays. Don’t mind it so much on the new Les Paul Supreme models but the split diamond would have looked better I think.

[@user-hu4vr7zn9p]

As measured by Trogly this guitar has a slightly thicker 'top' than back. So you could actually say it's a mahogany backed maple guitar.

[@James-hb6ee]

Best looking SG I've ever seen.

[@sinakaedwards2009]

I have to say the finish is one of the best flame tops I have ever seen, could be the video, but it looks really impressive.

[@jonathanhudak2059]

Sure does!

[@jfinester]

That thing is gorgeous! Sounds great too. The Wine Red is probably my favorite color on these new Supremes. I have a 2002 Midnight Blueburst one with chrome hardware that’s the best SG I’ve ever had, and that includes my first Gibson, a ‘67 Standard that I bought new. Gibson’s really stepped up with these new Supremes, but boy, they’re expensive! Worth the price if you can afford it. Even the coil-splits (or are they taps?) sound good. Good on ya, Gibson!

[@MarkEdward-bl6cr]

Been waiting for this one thanks Austin 🤘👍👏

[@paulallas7665]

Man!!!! What a gorgeous SG. Loving that wine red finish and the extra bevelled edges.

[@TheJeffcurran]

A buddy of mine got a 3 piece back. He hated it, sent it back, and was a ble to find one with a one piece back. I got the Fireburst since I already have a 2007 SG Select in wine red. As for quality, mine is 99.9%. No watermarks on the fretboard, the nibs are all clean, no machine marks on the binding, and an amazing top. I'm a fanboy and have 7 Supremes and quite a few other maple top SGs.

[@steveparish9210]

Gorgeous guitar

[@ManOrWomanIDK]

I remember those diablo carve supremes. That was my favorite guitar as a kid.

[@cuda426hemi]

Love the chandelier headstock nice art deco touch.. let the clones-n-drones below enjoy the pedestrian Custom splits. 1.71" nut makes it grass fed beefy like my Iommi but if plek'd from factory as they are (like the Monkey) it should have wicked low action and play like a dream. 🎸

[@hkguitar1984]

Many times the Ebony used for fingerboards has been dyed/stained to give it a more consistent appearance. Its possible you are seeing flaws or poor coverage from the staining process.

[@sgt.grinch3299]

Great to see you HK

[@hkguitar1984]

@@sgt.grinch3299 Glad to be here Sarge. 👍😉

[@jubei7259]

Yeah, I've gotten black fingertips from playing new guitars with ebony boards a few times & not just from Gibsons. Don't know whether it's the source or what but I think they're definitely dyeing the boards.

[@hkguitar1984]

@@jubei7259 Yeah, same here. Still, there is no denying how great the Ebony looks when dyed/stained.

[@jimwguitar3002]

Love the maple top and side jack.

[@ryanwhite5482]

When I was in highschool and in the first 4 years of starting to play guitar, a Lava Burst SG Supreme was my dream guitar (that I never got).

[@heavybrett-al4082]

I'm not an SG guy, but ! Wow that looks awesome, love that colour with gold hardware.

[@stevencochrane115]

Nice looking guitar!

[@bradleyyounger8499]

I loved the 2016 Supreme with the carved top!

[@presmasterflash7555]

Ooo mee likeee! Black hardware and a 3 ply batwing guard would seal the deal for me. Throw a mini toggle where the output jack usually is too. That’s what I did to my SG after I moved the jack to the side. I used one of those Ibanez type jacks. Highly recommend.

[@mikecarbone828]

Salutations Austin! Really nice SG Supreme! It sounds great, and has more options than a standard SG, plus a full two octaves on the fretboard. Thank you for sharing your experience with this instrument with us and posting this video! Please have an excellent and awesome day! ☀️✨🎸

[@Darth.Shredder]

Sure, they're nice but you may as well buy an SG Modern and save yourself $1k. You still get the thicker body with a figured top, 24 frets, bound ebony fingerboard, compound radius, fancy electronics and the side input jack. Is the higher grade top, locking tuners and different inlays really worth another $1k?

[@balmain2496]

It’s not.

[@stuckinchaselandia6427]

It will be worth it when you go to sell. Probably by more than $1000

[@Darth.Shredder]

@@stuckinchaselandia6427 So, you're saying when you sell it, you'll get back $1k more... hmm... but you paid $1k more, so how does that make it "worth it"? lol

[@stuckinchaselandia6427]

@@Darth.Shredder the point is it will easily hold its value more than a modern will. And will hold more than the difference in the value.

[@Darth.Shredder]

@@stuckinchaselandia6427 I guess we'll see when people try selling them. As of now the only thing we know for sure is that it costs $1k more.

[@barneygumble7052]

Yo Trogly, what do you use for an amps?

[@jeffbarnard9246]

Like the guitar but don't like the head stock logo Love the custom logo. Thanx Trogly another great show.

[@superlead1002]

I've been seeing the splotchy ebony fretboards on other brands as well...I had that same phenomenon on a Schecter I used to have.

[@johndef5075]

Liked the fire and fade bursts.

[@bozakarlin9034]

Great video thanks.

[@pepmasters-999]

That killer selling point of not being custom shop, but almost at custom shop pricing...

[@leviathan_is_me]

Caught that too, did ya? I don't think price is a good selling point either, lol. We keeeeeeeed

[@scottdavidson6066]

Looking for the Epi DG-335 review!

[@zombies418]

I remember years ago as a kid seeing a video of a guy ripping on a midnight blue supreme and I’ve wanted one ever since. Now, I finally have an 05 midnight blue supreme but I swapped the chrome for gold. Looks classier to me

[@greggrant502]

Love the wine on that one!

[@ashleyjackson8538]

Stunning work . I know there’s always marks on the fret board .

[@jonathanhudak2059]

I remember plunking down a deposit on a brand new Midnight burst SG Supreme back in 2001. It was $2000 whixh was big money at the time and more than a new Les Paul Standard at the time. It was a beautiful guitar and played a nd sounded great. Sometimes I wish I had never sold it. I didnt knownthe very first Supreme was offered with P-90s, would love to hear one of those! This new one is interesting, I'm not 100% sold on the new headstock inlay but I could probably live with it. I liked all the different tones you could get out of this one, some of them sounded kind of Stratty! I like this color the best so far but a blue one or purple would be cool to. Can't wait to see the other one you bought!

[@BCarpenter2314]

Bring back the emerald green SG Supreme!

[@frankwebster9110]

Yessir!!!

[@jonathanhudak2059]

And midnight blue!

[@bretspangler8717]

I started saving my box tags and keeping them in the case with the guitar, never hurts. This is one SG I would love to get, I might need to sell a few Epiphones to get my first Gibson.

[@dsmanpr1]

I just bought a 2023 les paul jr vintage sunburst what do you think i should dobto kearn how to play guitar or any add ons to the guutar? Im a beginner

[@wizrom3046]

You obviously have money, just buy a $150 asian Strat and leave it sitting around the house, on the couch etc and grab that thing all day long and play the feck out of it. Dont worry about scratches just beat that thing up as long as you are getting hands on strings

[@paulraider2001]

I just don't like the strap button on the horn. It made me put it back on the shelf.

[@hkguitar1984]

Austin, have you (or anyone) ever seen a SG Standard with highly figured Mahogany body and neck? I can't remember ever seeing one, and wonder if the Custom Shop could build a simple SG Standard, but made of all highly figured mahogany? To me it seems like surely someone would have commissioned such an instrument. These are pretty great looking SGs, the Chandelier headstock inlay is kind of growing on me!

[@Trog]

True figured mahogany isn't found on Gibsons very often (flame pattern) but it happens occasionally. The ribbon flame is more common to find on the SGs. There was a really cool flamed mahogany supremeLP from 2021 though that stuck in my head

[@hkguitar1984]

@@Trog Thank You for the reply Austin. I'll keep an eye out for one of those 2021 Mahogany Supreme SGs. Great Content, Thank You Sir.

[@harmonicseries6582]

Those blotches are from using acetone to clean ca glue from the fretboard

[@Californiaedhgold1]

Yo so I got a EVH wolf gang special in sea foam green finish. It’s a good sounding guitar. But I want to change the pickups to Gibson custom buckers. Idk what do think ?

[@wizrom3046]

Stunning! Thats the first Gibson you've reviewed where I would actually consider paying that Gibsoney price for it... Shame about the weight but then it probably goes a long way towards fixing the neck dive.

[@ronsampservice3066]

That's f*ck'n epic looking! Would rather have the split diamond inlay. But the finish is awesome! Don't understand why they didn't bevel the backside of the lower cutaway, but I like the neck heel. Never been a big fan of the extended body wood type heel. Man, wish I had the cash free because I'd buy that one!😮

[@pauljazz818]

I had an SG Menace. With its baseball bat neck, it had major neck dive. Because of that, I swore I’d never buy another SG. I did, however, love the pick ups in that Menace. I do like the looks, weight, and improvements of this new SG supreme. What would prevent me from buying it are the pickups. I know a lot of people like the burst buckers, but I absolutely hate them. I would definitely have to pay a few hundred dollars to swap them out with something else.

[@markcheetah4960]

I've always loved the SG Supremes. I'm still looking for an Emerald Burst in excellent condition but they seem to be rare and expensive.

[@jonkerr2050]

Oh my. I’m such a sucker for wine red and gold. And flame tops. That is stunning.

[@scottdavidson6066]

That Wine Red is sick!

[@RokDAWG1]

That guitar just crushes!

[@bxsoup]

The layout is similar to the Epiphone DC Pro , with the exception of the toggle switch placement. Strap lock on the horn and input jack on bottom like a Les Paul .

[@monstrok]

That red SG is FULL - STUN! wow!

[@prodantech]

Love it but hate the strap button location on that horn. I wonder how nicely you could change that.

[@danfeeney956]

Agreed. I love everything but that strap button.

[@HVA58]

Yup, I agree. I’d hate to pay that much for a guitar and then have to change the location to the regular place and then fix that hole on the top of the horn.

[@frankwebster9110]

SG's ! Gimme gimme.

[@tbdog99]

Never heard of them...WOW, gorgeous! Very clean, elegant.

[@MentMicro]

is it normal to have coil splitters on the tone pots? one of my guitars has it like that.

[@leviathan_is_me]

Anymore, yea. It was the hot thing to do around 2018 and on. I still just prefer straight wiring. Yea, you get a little volume cut treble bleed style or a little tonal difference, nothing major, and some dpdt pots are very touchy and scratchy as hell. All in all, I personally think just normal wiring is best. It's better to be great at one thing rather than ok at a few (plus I spend more time fiddling to get the best sound as opposed to just playing...that's me though.)

[@sleevelessace]

i saw these and the les pauls at my local guitar shop in person and they are BEAUTIFUL guitars.. 5000 is a bit much though

[@Siggy_Sour]

Diggin the new Phat SG

[@saddle8bag]

Me likey. Splits sound good and middle sounds awesome.

[@Tulio_Fonseca]

Damn, I loved that Lava Burst from back in the day. 😍 Hope they bring it back.

[@mauriciom.jr.1829]

My next guitar for sure...🤘🤘🤘

[@DaringDan]

Gorgeous guitar. I love it. Shame about 3 pieces on the back though at that price. That seems like a gaffe to me to do that, especially when the maple cap and appointments are so gorgeous.

[@DMBFAN90]

Wow that top is so sick!

[@larryburwell8550]

i love that wine red with flame top. beautiful guitar, priced too high but it is what it is

[@sirwilliamblackstone]

Ordered one ... will probably return it, but it's a real beauty, needs to be experienced to judge.

[@janiechamplin8524]

Drooling! Gorgeous!

[@ethanhitchcock5431]

Who plays that guitar...? Azazel ?...very cool guitar , love the top , love the side profile between the horns , love the inlays ( much better than split diamonds ! ), and its got great tones...yeah ! Thanks Trogly !

[@jerryhernandez2570]

I still want one of those emerald green supremes 😮

[@franckodric3331]

Another home run review! Somehow, I always agree with your point of view on opinions. Best program on KZbin for sure. Two thumbs up Austin 👍 👌

[@bxsoup]

Can always add an additional strap button in the original location .

[@stratman9449]

big and beautiful....going into LP spheres with this....might have it's market....but i'll stick with my 61 modded one for now.....

[@tsibillkerr]

This guitar is a stunner - thank you ;-)

[@dino4771]

There was one on the Demo shop

[@nuitari666uzgurzmor6]

This guitar is heavy inspired by the 2007 ESP Viper custom. A direct comparision of this 2 guitars would be cool!

[@Gordanovich02]

Cesar Gueikian did say, in reply to an Instagram comment, that they had tried to make these better balanced. Probably why they went with a thicker body as well as the strap button on the horn.

[@jeffdeboer1679]

I don't like that strap button location at all. It looks really weird with the strap connecting to the tip of the upper horn.

[@RickMcCargar]

I owned a P-90 version of the SG Supreme in 1999. One of the few guitars I regret selling

[@heyreadmefirst3522]

according to StockX, having a Supreme truss rod cover adds $2k to the price tag.

[@msaintpc]

It sounds good.

[@thomaskendall6255]

I feel like the "new" SG neck joint is about as accessible as you can get.. Any more routing would just be for aesthetics IMHO. The old neck joint (while also allowing easier access than almost every other guitar on the market) was much chunkier... I actually thought Gibson did a pretty solid job of making the newer neck joint standard across all models (unlike Fender who make you get an "Ultra" model to get the better joint). I love SG's more than I should.. I have more than enough of them. I have no idea how I'm going to convince myself not to buy one of these. The weight and bulk are probably going to drive me nuts, but the look really is amazing. I also think it's the best looking Fireburst I've seen.... I typically HATE that finish (I bought a 120th Anv SGJ at a steal with satin Fireburst and had it re-finished white because I loved the guitar but hated the finish that much). On this one with the flamed maple top, it actually looks pretty amazing. Maybe I'll change my mind before I pick one up, though... I have more wine red than anything else.

[@clarkbabin9799]

Love that Supreme SG. Just curious. Did you sell the SOR SG or are you keeping it for one of your kids or yourself.

[@Trog]

It sold quick on reverb!

[@clarkbabin9799]

@@Trog I'm not surprised. Sounded like a good deal. Maybe one day I'll go to the SOR and pickup a nice deal.

[@jeromepeters9842]

Very attractive sg

[@Pustic2]

That would look awesome with a Bigsby.

[@jonathanhudak2059]

Nooooo! Lol!

[@realconservative7735]

oh my god that lava burst .wow

[@mordokch]

Now this is a very rare thing for me to say about a new gibson, but .... I want one ! I want that exact colour and config. Damn it. I bet they're not cheap.

[@Trog]

This one is on my website if you’re interested!

[@mordokch]

@@Trog I'm in the UK Austin, so it's prohibitively expensive. I did look, but by the time it's in my hands it would be 4 grand. Thanks though !

[@nicoladolby2154]

This has to be the nicest Gibson production line guitar to come out sine the Les Paul 50s with P90s . Total respect 😀😀😀

[@yourdrummer2034]

I love these. The blue?😍

[@yourdrummer2034]

And the Hard case looks sharp with the black fur lining..

[@TeensierPython]

I really like it. I want one and I have no idea how to play. Would this be a good guitar for a beginner?

[@jfinester]

If you have it set up properly and can afford the price, you shouldn’t have to replace it, ever.

[@Trog]

It is a very fancy guitar for your first, but if it is on budget - I don't see why not! The demo unit is for sale at a $500 discount troglysguitarshow.com/product/gibson-sg-supreme-wine-red-shipping-delay/

[@ChrisShortyAllen]

If you spend so much on a guitar it will not assist your development. When someone dings it you will be upset.

[@TeensierPython]

@@ChrisShortyAllen very true. I just don’t like buying a “starter” guitar. It’ll be crap and I won’t like it and I’ll have to buy something new later. I was just curious if as you get into higher end guitars they are played different or were for different styles of play. I played instruments through high school, both band and orchestra. Never touched a guitar but have always been longing to try. I’m a firm believer in “buy once cry once.” I’d like something I love to play rather than some junker I have have no passion to pick up and play.

[@TeensierPython]

Fine. I’ll buy a PRS SE that I like the looks and sound of. But my next guitar is going to be something amazing. Then I’ll fill out the repertoire with some unique guitars.

[@mr.timebombman2230]

I prefer the other inlays it had

[@joachimlindback]

Thx

[@craigrobbins2229]

I just ordered a wine red SG Supreme from Wildwood 7.44 lbs. Now the waiting begins.

[@robertdavidtingstrom118]

I love how Trogly shows the “ case candy” and he shows the moisture packet! 😂 Now that’s being thorough! 😂

[@mackermelchor5212]

Does it still tilt forward!?

[@frankwebster9110]

Apparently they're well-balanced but sometimes it's a crapshoot with the SG. It doesn't bother me at all on mine. A 3-inch strap and my hand is usually on the neck so no worries

[@presmasterflash7555]

I’d bet not as the top Strap is on the horn rather than back of neck.

[@tykit9230]

Beautiful

[@jdbroders64]

I owned an SG Custom several years ago (original owner brand new) and it was gorgeous with a flame top. With that said, I got rid of it after six months. The fit and finish had issues which surprised me (compared to my PRS), the frets had to be crowned and finished and it would just not stay in tune. I took it to my local luthier (great guy) who fixed the frets and tried to address the tuning issues. However, the tuning issue never went away. I got so sick of it, I sold the damn thing. I was not impressed at all considering how much it cost. For that kind of money, I'd go with an equivalent PRS any day.

[@jdbroders64]

SG Supreme vice SG Custom. Sorry for the error.

[@georgeoh-well8116]

The Gibson 3+3 headstock design is inherently inferior to the PRS design for tuning stability. I'm guessing that's why Dave Grohl ( dg335 ) , Joe Bonamassa ( bonabyrd ) and Lzzy Hale ( explorer bird ) have signature guitars with different headstocks.

[@motorbreath88]

When is Epiphone going going to released the Supreme?

[@bretrich]

Those spots that appear on the fretboard are likely spots where they put a little bit of dye to cover up a light spot in the ebony to make it look more uniform and "modern"

[@jacobsmith6773]

if they ever make a bengal burst sg supreme i might have to spend on that

[@lespaulranger]

3 piece back. Are we prs wood library??

[@leviathan_is_me]

😂 Each of those woods produce different sounds when you hit em with sticks, so imagine how they sound when glued together and covered in layers of sealant....

[@lespaulranger]

@@leviathan_is_me exactly! how wood works with an acoustic instrument like a violin is always a great way to understand how wood affects electric guitars, which make sounds a completely different way.

[@briansmith2125]

I have seen the very same thing with those "blotches" on both the Gibson and Epiphone ebony boards. I'm sanding it out but it almost looks like a chemical reaction.

[@MrPointy75]

This is the most beautiful red guitar I've ever seen.

[@cockatoo010]

Wow. I love how this SG looks like! New favorite guitar? Nah, ESP still exists