TROOPIES GALORE! AFRICA LAND CRUISER BUILD. Interior build discussion. Ep-19

Paul Marsh and I discuss the upcoming camper build including electrical and water systems.
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[@dianek1220]

Paul Marsh is an absolute gem 💎

[@Hightop_tlc]

When Andrew says "this is a budget build"... I wonder what he'd call mine😂

[@rodneysantos6775]

That's why I struggle sometimes watching these builds. His budget is not achievable to the standard Joe but enjoy watching his builds so I can dream.

[@neilarmitage6632]

If this build is related to the 500,000 km Troopy. Then it is a very expensive build. Paul and his team don't come cheap. I'm currently planing a build for a new double cab. And currently the cost is well over R200, 000 and there is more to come. My build is not for a Cape to Cairo need. I'm mostly in caravan camp sites. So needs are limited.

[@jasonunsworth7775]

Best comment. Salesmen posing as teachers. Always remember this is about creating content. And perhaps more so about creating a culture of more. I’m on troopy #6 and have done some more elaborate ‘builds’. My current one is definitely the simplest and I would say the most versatile, not to mention lightest. I’d also put it up against any of these mega builds on a trip for liveability and usability at a fraction of the cost.

[@notrut]

Yup, the flight costs Oz to SA always get erased.

[@Hightop_tlc]

Still, love the build content, and does gives us all something to aspire to, but to start with a paint job like that, look at getting Scheelmann seats and then call it a budget build is funny 🤣

[@shamrockgerry]

For. Over the many years. Ive being. Watching. Your. Videos and blogs on. Overland. Vehicles and. Adventures . A time capsule of history one day will. Be shown in schools universities and even Automotive history on theses vehicles. Us in many ways .. .thank you and season greetings. As we head towards 2024/5 may god graces all our off road people and protecting of the countryside and landscapes. And most of all. Freedom of our. Used of theses vehicles against. A 1984 systems incorporated by government to take our freedom of overland vehicles.

[@veselingramatikov]

You need 1 hour with this guys and you know everything. Damn.

[@njingaradebe9652]

Paul Marsh should have been a lecturer, he's very good at explaining in detail.

[@harrietgibbs4086]

Very happy to hear about a ground tent, at least to start!

[@terranullius7724]

After all, I like listening to your shows, even if they deal with issues that do not touch my particular interests. I believe that the difference with other you-tubers is your experience in real radio or television productions. I like. Keep it up and we'll be following you regularly

[@ian9toes]

Listening to this reminds me of my Patrol build (still ongoing). My first priority was that I could easily access my electric skateboard and it had its own box so it was never buried. I had this plan of opening the side door behind the drivers door and pulling it out. I made the box it was positioned on an angle to match the door opening even made the box end on an angle to match. I decided I was ready to test it out one weekend. My vision all along was pulling up on a beach at low tide and getting it out with its pneumatic wheels, and having a spin. Problem was when I thought about testing it, it was going to be in Surfers Paradise with parallel parking and I wouldn’t be able to pull it without being on the street. I ended up making it accessible from the rear and remade it before ever testing it out. My point is real world living does involve suburbia and has to be taken into account.

[@dan.newtons]

Moving back to SA and looking at 76 series, so loving this series as I will be over landing and living on a reserve

[@أسفار]

Great discussion, perfect evaluation for the situation as always You are the man, keep up

[@shaunozs1ra92]

Andrew I’m excited for you. I really like how you and Paul put so much thinking into the build. Your enthusiasm is so contagious I can’t wait to start my new build. I’m in the process of selling my Inkunzi overlander. I’ll be building my new Inkunzi as soon as my 2.8GD Auto arrives. Some comments and ideas that came to mind while listening to you and Paul. Water, heating and purification. I’m currently using a Hansen heater that allows both LPG and shore power use. It gives me additional 14lt of water carrying capacity but it is space hungry so would like to see what other options Paul has. Water purification. I’d love to hear Paul’s ideas on this. I currently carry a hand operated ceramic purifier. It’s small and can only handle small quantities. One of my challenges is filtering before running the water into the tanks. I recently filled from a water point that was pumping directly from the Orange River. Unfortunately it brought a lot of silt with it which is near impossible to get out without removing the tanks. A basic filter would have helped. For this reason I carry 2x 20lt water Jerry cans solely for drinking. I find it easier to manage cross contamination. Fuel. With my Single Cab LC79 Inkunzi I only ever needed additional fuel when driving to the banks of the Kunene through the Marienfluss. I only needed 2x 20lt on the roof which was great. Jerry Cans are cheap enough so I give it away when empty. I reduce the drag and the money I save on fuel more than pays for the cans. Cooking. I use gas but have been thinking of getting a single induction cooker plus a single gas burner. For this I’m going to need a 3Kw inverter instead of the 1,2Kw. Like you I’m a Travel Buddy kind of guy BUT if I go with the 3Kw inverter I’m replacing the Travel Buddy with an air fryer. I’m also bolting down the Nespresso. It’s a nuisance to keep taking it from the bag. Power. I’m going from 1x 100ah to 2x 100ah. I run the Cerbo GX simply because it interfaces with the tank levels and with the Mopeka Pro sensors I can even monitor my LPG as I only have 2x 3kg on board. I have 3x Badger solar panels glued to the roof. Normally they fit 2 at the factory but I don’t like running out of power. I’m a short guy so getting my RV5 onto the roof is a challenge. I fitted a roller onto the back of the roof rack. Now I lay it on the roller and just slide it onto the roof rack. Fortunately I don’t use it much. On the two spare wheel debate, I’m firmly in the one spare camp. I carry a tyre pliers wherever I go. I have only needed three spares ever. On the this trip I lost 2 tyres, fortunately I was able to buy a second hand tyre at a remote garage. I had a puncture on the second hand spare towards the end of the trip which I repaired on the road. In the event that I feel I want the insurance I carry an extra carcass. Comfort. I really love your last build for that chill area you speak of. I have been thinking of getting a Ram laptop table. It can pack away easily taking up minimal space and you can adjust it exactly to your needs. Have you considered it? That mozzie net is a must, great idea. I never thought that a basin would be a thing but now that I have 2 collapsible basins in a dedicated space with a dedicated water outlet I don’t know how I managed without it. The main reason I don’t want 2 spares is for weight saving. So in that vain I would love to see the development of a winch carrier that fits behind the standard bumper. A bush bar adds a lot of weight that I rather do without. Storage. On my previous Alu Innovations camper I used the space reserved for the second spare wheel to mount a cupboard onto the back. It housed my gas cylinder, tyre pump and a few other pesky items. Good luck with the build. I don’t need to say enjoy it because you will no matter what I say 😃

[@taurota1554]

awesome as always.thanks for sharing and taking us along.

[@darrenjones5885]

The sliding worktop that Thomas Heaton built for his van might be the solution to workstation ergonomics. Laptop power supply, cables, etc, could live in the space revealed when the worktop is slid forward to be a desk.

[@garagepie]

Before he went down this road he asked what his next project should. I would have liked to have seen an oldish double cab build which is often in the budget of younger travellers and anyone with a lower budget. Could have been fun. Glad he did start with a budget high mile vehicle though.

[@4xoverland]

I documented exactly that in Australia.

[@harrietgibbs4086]

But not really a budget vehicle...?@@4xoverland

[@4xoverland]

Yes. A budget ute based on an Isuzu. Any more budget and you would catch a bus.

[@magicalvortex]

Andrew, I must say. I really hate the idea of having to put up and pull down an Oztent RV4 tent from the roof of the troopy. We're about the same age, and I too have a work related back injury that I've had to retire from. But of course, this is Andrews build, not mine. The 30 second tent, or whatever it is, is just that. Then you have to prepare bedding and everything else that goes in it, which takes time. You'll also be sleeping on the ground which if you have a bad back (Arthritic) is a terrible idea. You could use the cushions from the troopy to sleep on but would recommend having the bottoms fitted with PVC to help prevent condensation coming through; Otherwise you'll be doubling up on mattresses which is bulky. Apart from the RTT which I love because of my back, we are now using single swags that have PVC bottoms on quick set up stretchers, ( I think by memory it was the OZtrail Easy Fold Single Stretcher). My wife who has a double hip replacement finds it really comfy, now that really says something. All you really need is the 270 degree awning, two easy quick fold out stretchers, two swags that fit the stretchers and use the mattresses from inside the troopy with sleeping bags. It's lightweight and it's comfortable, what more can you ask for. Keep you back safe.

[@Queensizemusic]

What fantastic insight. Thanks to both of you!

[@MarcelWasserman]

Idea for the laptop work station: Use the front passenger seat! Then just modify the dashboard so you can pull out a table there. This was you sit comfortable and you have a dedicated space. And when you work you obviously dont drive so the seat is available.

[@4xoverland]

I tried that and it does not work. Dashboard is far too high, there is not nearly enough width. Its a non-starter.

[@MarcelWasserman]

@@4xoverlandAh I se Andrew. The width is the element I did not consider.

[@nqumthemba]

Crutches thats used to support walking has those springed height adjusting metal knobs, cant Poul add that to his System to meet your height Customization Request?? Also some Gazibos use such Mechanism.

[@br.markanthony574]

17:26 I do love your content but do need to optionate, this is why your vehicle needs a heat source and a lavatory, so that in an emergency where you cannot leave the vehicle, that you do not need to, UNDERSTAND KIDDIES! Wonderful content otherwise, impressive battery and electric containment Paul, wish you the best on your endeavors, Andrew fascinating content looking forward to a well thought out practical build. ❤️

[@Nakamichi_Service_UK]

Andrew, can you design a small fold up table that clips on to the steering wheel that your laptop sits on. Then this is the workstation and nothing in the back needs to be compromised to create another place to work??

[@AchmatAdam]

Thank you very informative 👍

[@dawngiesler3590]

We want to travel across Africa over 7 or 8 months and have an Amazon 100 series. Do you recommend adapting the vehicle without the 3 rear seats or just keep 1. The boot has already been converted with drawers and fridge. We are a couple travelling with a roof tent.

[@4xoverland]

Too complex a question for a simple answer here. I suggest www.overland-workshop.com/

[@baseballdadq8]

I like this. Where is the fridge and how do you access it?

[@gungendranukanna4311]

Regarding Laptop screens. I use a smaller independent screen. Positioned for eye-level. The screen is available for mobility and size.

[@whya2ndaccount]

Agreed. Keyboard, mouse and screen. Use the Laptop with its built in screen, etc. when on the move. Use the larger screen, full keyboard, etc. when static. Laptop is connected but screen, etc. not being used (or used as a 2nd screen when editing).

[@TimJones-yo3fr]

Appreciate you Andrew 😊😊

[@majuambo]

Instead of a roofrack, how about a custom made roof bars just to hold the brackets of the awning and the cargo(solar and tent)? Less drag, solar panels will have more cooling space behind, less money, less weight...

[@blackmambaPhotography]

Are you going to have enough head room to sit and work on laptop in the back of the Troopie without a roof conversion?

[@4xoverland]

No. But its not a priority for my Africa trips. I edit when I get home.

[@derj8054]

Hi all, does anybody know which lamp is installed at the back door. Above Paul’s head?

[@4xoverland]

National Luna. I'm now fitting them to to Aussie Troopy as well.

[@peterpatch7144]

A nice summary of years of experience! Thanks for that…..it will go more on a build I can afford. Can you just me tell which company build the interior setup?

[@4xoverland]

paulmarsh4x4.com

[@peterpatch7144]

I thought the interior build (including electric setup) was outsourced. Thanks for the infos.

[@4xoverland]

it is, through Paul.

[@mfhairstream6812]

without the tent is it a camper?

[@craigtomkinson2837]

Cool Ep

[@s.wvazim6517]

Anybody know were I can get a colman duel stove in South africa ?

[@nqumthemba]

I nearly missed a Good Content.

[@dougsphoto]

Budget Build Question. Hi Andrew first thx for all your years of content and great info, second hope you've had a great Xmas. Now if one can't afford a Troopy or a Cruiser and only a Hilux for better weight distribution would you recommend a chassis extension like what you did on your Aussie Dream Tourer. Thx much appreciated and wishing you a Happy 2024 a successful build and many more adventures 👊🏻

[@wesselbotha3928]

Why? You adding unnecessary cost. Hilux infact will get less stuck than a Cruiser. Keep it simple

[@wernerswardt7512]

Andrew, as a content creator I can understand your needs for a certain layout for a troopie, but as a normal person doing overlanding there is much different needs to maximize space usage thus you should more concentrate on the general public's needs than your own needs. People want to see how they can improve their rigs for normal use rather than your custom needs, it would be more helpful to the general overlander to assist in building his rig. You build rigs for a YT content creator but it means zero to 99% of your audience, they do not have your needs, they want practical overlanding and camping solutions. Put out more content that the public need not what you need

[@4xoverland]

99% of what I say in almost all of my videos can be applied to any vehicle. They all have engines, gearboxes, bodies, doors and need to carry fuel and water and food. Very few things are peculiar to the Troopcarrier. I am also telling a story. To make it interesting, I have to choose something to challenge me. Or it soon gets very, very dull and no one will watch it. Overland-Workshop has insights, instruction and information that applies to all types of vehicle and all types of overland travel.

[@djphatb]

For me seeing de thought process of why or why not to do something has helped me immensely. My rig is very basic on purpose. A lot less mods then i thought i needed. We go deep into amazon forest and other reserves in Brazil for work. Andrew showing the thought process has helped me narrow down my needs.

[@neilarmitage6632]

Fatigue: drive for maximum 2 hours. Get out of the vehicle walk around for ten minutes. Stretch. Drink a cold drinks. Then get in and continue.

[@davidmilledge221]

👍👍great video , Bloody lucky them Africans they still get the majic motor 1hz in their landcuisers , why carnt Australia still have them 😢

[@youtubecarspottersguide1]

we cant have LC troppy & diesel engines in the U.S.

[@davidmilledge221]

​@@youtubecarspottersguide1why ?

[@edwardharkins9855]

@@davidmilledge221 I think the 70 Series has not met US crash standards. As far as diesel engines, while I am a fan of them, not many US built passenger vehicles have them. We tend to use gasoline (petrol) engines, while larger work pickup trucks (utes), tractor/trailers and buses are the most common users of diesel.

[@youtubecarspottersguide1]

@@edwardharkins9855 .. true , diesel engine is in the chevy tahoe and suburban. but they are more 3 row family luxury school bus, than a utiltian wagon /s.u.v. I don't want a indpendent. rear axle , gm , ford, jeep, have them 'for the smooth ride and leg room for the 3rd row " I tow a 6500 lb 25' airstream but want a wagon / s.u.v. to buy for my car camping /overland tour vehicle , do like the sequoia TRD pro but the fold down 3rd row takes up top much space , its $83k and a 3 row luxury car

[@BubblesTheCat1]

​@@youtubecarspottersguide1It's because of the EPA nannies. They're afraid the diesels will pollute California. Instead of worrying about gun violence and the regular mass shootings that occur over there🙄🙄

[@Ellie_Reid]

If it is a budget build, lay out your costs, or what it would have cost if you paid for parts and labour. Without seeing this, my guess is it would be similar cost to buying reasonably new. It's good content though. Keep up the good work.

[@4xoverland]

True. But then its not a challenge and without a challenge, builds like this can be very dull indeed. No one will watch a boring build.

[@mark2073]

@@4xoverland I like this philosophy for the ideas, even if it costs more than something I'd be able to put together.

[@defendermodsandtravels]

@@4xoverland Yes you are right. I am going to do a basic, boring rebuild of my battered Defender when I get it back to the UK. Few people will watch the video but those who do will learn something.

[@greenestmachine71]

The basic interior build cost is around R350k. I have had this very build done. This cost excludes fridge, water heater, BCDC and inverter. The quality of the work is high and built to last. You are paying for a very well designed interior based on experience. I replaced an existing interior that was made with chipboard which was falling apart. I actually consider this very good value as I don’t have a workshop, tools or experience in fabrication.

[@defendermodsandtravels]

@@greenestmachine71 Value is subjective. For many that price would be outrageous. It depends on one's needs and budget. For that price I could buy and fit out an older 4x4 and do a major expedition including shipping costs. I know what's good value for me.

[@hermanlouw9998]

Personal opinion, for Africa a roof conversion is probably the most important. But thats just me.

[@nqumthemba]

Your discussions sounds like 2 professors having invented a Cure, now they want to BETTER IT.

[@youtubecarspottersguide1]

wish we had a troopy or. a good utility wagon/s.u.v. in the U.S. that is not. a 3 row luxury car , love to build a car camper /overlander tour travel rig , that I can sleep inside, have a pop up top camper , only good off road rig we have ,that is any good is a 4runner maybe then new lexus GX550 over trail but price, the sequoia trd pro is a over priced luxury 3 row family school bus

[@mark2073]

You can get a 25 year old imported troopy in the US

[@youtubecarspottersguide1]

@@mark2073 calif not sure .as the smog cks are 1976 or newer

[@nicknapata5738]

Please can i have Paul Marsh contact in Cape Town, email would be ideal for communication with a busy man. I trust he gets time to look at emails during the coffee breaks in the factory.

[@4xoverland]

Google Paul Marsh. You'll find him.

[@Coordinator61]

This is far from a budget build.

[@4xoverland]

You are right!

[@Coordinator61]

@@4xoverland haha cool.

[@rrl9409]

Budget build, lol. Egon Is $1400 bucks….yikes.

[@4xoverland]

You are missing something if you think this is expensive. Spend the bucks on parts and labour, or spend it on part and save on labour. All those wires, mega-fuses, regular fuses, crimps, heat-shrink, buss-bar not needed. Everyone who has built a rig using a DC-Hub has reported days if not weeks of time saved and the cost of parts almost the same as the hub. "Its a no brainer" is the most common term used.

[@rrl9409]

Wrong, a “budget build” is not a $1400 dollar water system, your way out of touch with the average person’s budget.

[@4xoverland]

So what you mean by 'budget' is to have no hot water system at all?

[@rrl9409]

Jetboil