TROPE TALK: ANGSTY SLOW BURN ROMANCES | VLOGMAS DAY 20

[@leahbaron1]

If a romance isn't a slow burn then what's the point reading it.

[@isamags2]

Amen

[@MirlieTheCat]

comments like that make me hope: pleeease make videos... so, one favourite? please?

[@kayleighhooper7021]

exactly

[@piloncillo09]

This is my moto for lifw

[@hamdaarif9947]

Facts

[@cassieanimorph01]

"Nah nah nah nah. If they're together, they stay together. We're not gonna have them fighting over dumb shit. Nah." OMG. I love you for this. 😂💕 It's like the stress when we read the second book has been lessened.

[@noodleee2D]

Pride and prejudice? Jane invented will they won’t they.

[@TOAGamer1]

Sam's voice going high pitched when talking about her ships is an ENTIRE mood.

[@jamieson4293]

I LOVE ANGSTY SLOW BURN! Ok the king of this tho is The Foxhole Court by Nora Sakavic ... honestly *kisses fingers* it’s SO SO slowburn (doesn’t even happen until bk3) and SO GOOD. Also I read To Kill a Kingdom recently and was pleasantly surprised by how angsty and slowburn that ship was and it was enemies to lovers too. Also The Diviners by Libba Bray has a real good angsty slowburn love triangle kinda thing too

[@KaterynaM_UA]

I've come to the comment section to say exactly this about Foxhole! xD

[@1Lost_Username]

I love AFTG I read all 3 books online a couple of weeks ago and immediately purchased them on Amazon after I was done ♥️ no lie I cried hella times 😅 I have yet to read Carry on, Simon :DDD

[@martabarrales3112]

The Winner's Crime hurt me physically, the angst on that book is supreme.

[@ThoughtsOnTomes]

honestly so true

[@grayde3903]

I loved that series beautiful romance

[@Earendil1992]

I LOVE angsty romance. I have no idea why but hate to love romances are my absolute favourite. Arin and Kestral, Warner and Juliette gave me so many feelings. The Winners Kiss made me feel so much pain... but in a good way... 😂

[@suranimabe3635]

Yes! Just reread the Winner's Kiss & it was perfection ❤️

[@aubreyjane6659]

HOW IS SIX OF CROWS NOT ON THIS LIST?!?!

[@ev6564]

Yes! Kaz and Inej are my ultimate OTP

[@selinazzz973]

i need the "hate to love" books and talk

[@hannahbeanies8855]

Love must hurt or I don't believe it. Give me all your tragedies, your problematics, your unrequited longings. Give me love that makes the character question what they know about the world. Give me love that is painfully transformative. Give me hate and passion. Give me loves that aren't supposed to be, that shouldn't work but they do. Just TEAR ME TO PIECES. That's the love I need in my fiction. Also, I agree with you. Video games are bomb for that kind of development. Dragon Age is my gem. I ship so many.

[@fictionalwanderings9964]

I love that we angst romance lovers finally have a more solidified language because YES

[@SissouLoveVideo]

Slow burns are the best !! I am sick of the romances where the characters get together too easily and quickly ! The "will they won't they?" is the best part !! Thank you so much for your recomendations !! And as I've said a thousand times : READ KATE DANIELS !!! The slow burn is so goood !! It's building up for several books and you doubt because the characters are both stubborn, proud and they might have some good reasons to fight against their feelings.

[@carahamelie]

This video is everything I needed in life.... thank you.

[@saml9699]

Yes to a HATE-TO-LOVE and tv/video game video 👍🏻👍🏻

[@Gabrielathebook]

The couple in the dark artifices, man that’s one of the most angsty romances I’ve ever read. I think Cassie Clare’s most angsty ship yet. It was so painful but it hurt so good

[@gashbeenahmad]

anabellee55 exactly my favorite

[@elenavanderwoodsen9783]

So true .

[@undertheseatv]

I think we all know that Julian and Emma were going to be endgame but the question was how and when 😂😂😂

[@makball6478]

omg this is so trippy, im watching slow burn vids for my creative writing class and come across one of my fav youtubers from my booktube days.... the nostalgia i am feeling with this corner bookshelf is so warm and cozy!! a great rediscovery lol

[@TheWordN3rd]

Lol. You were definitely speaking my language. XD

[@lizzyrose5494]

Literally my favourite type of romance! For contemporary Mariana Zapata does great sloooooow burn romance. For fantasy Maria V. Snyder Glass series has my favourite OTP ever, the angst, the hate, the love!

[@leia2017]

I feel like your the only one who knows what a real angsty slow burn is and all my qualifications match yours as well

[@jamiez5545]

Windwitch made me so happy with the particular couple you’re talking about. I can’t wait to see where they go in Bloodwitch. The waiting struggle is real.

[@biancareads]

The miscommunication in the Winners Trilogy made me so mad but in such a good way. Like I was so angry and distraught but in the BEST way!!

[@JayGTheAwkwardBookworm]

Yes, the night circus is such a good example! LOVE THE WINNERS CURSE

[@misssnowfoxx]

For me, both couples in The Raven Cycle fit the quota of both angst and slow burn oh my god! The song of Achilles is literally an angst machine, if not so much the slow burn part - a gun shot wound would have been less painful! Aristotle and Dante I felt had a lot of slow burn and it may just be me being stupid but I wasn’t even sure they would get them together by the end and there were some pretty angsty parts to that, even if they are teenagers. Anne and Gilbert in the Anne series are just SLOOOOOW burn omg I love it! Again, a bit of angst but not so much as with these big fantasy epics.

[@ffletch]

I read song of achilles the other day and I cried when I saw the title Now THAT'S an angsty story 👌

[@maiarasilva9546]

oh boy you would love the foxhole court

[@ThoughtsOnTomes]

I've heard

[@AnonYmous-sd4pb]

I'd love to see a trope talk about platonic male-female relationships (or rather, the lack thereof).

[@EMenozzi]

If you haven't read it already, my favorite slow burn romance is in A Duke by Default by Alyssa Cole (contemporary romance, self-described hot mess goes to Scotland to learn to build swords from a guy who turns out to be a duke). It's SOOOOOOO good. No miscommunication plot line. It's book 2 in the series. Book 1 is also really good, but you don't need to read it to read book 2.

[@stacisbookishprobs8043]

The Girl of Fire and Thorns fucked me up and I LOVED it. Also I’m ready for the angst in Bloodwitch

[@wordsofclover]

The slow burn romance in Uprooted makes me make a weird noise when I think about it because I love it so much and I don't know how to appropriately communicate it with other people

[@jayj5535]

Yess I can't wait for her to write another book

[@derekkarofsky9694]

I finally found someone who speaks my language.

[@ravenfeathersroar5370]

The Foxhole Court for sure, even when together it's still a slow burn relationship and it takes forever to get to that point in a good way.

[@leslievargas9171]

I love your rant at the beginning. I agreed with everything and laughed. Enjoyed it so much you have a new subscriber 😂☺️

[@mariajoaosantos8371]

A court of mist and fury man ( and beginning in acotar) that book man, that book

[@sinabawan7204]

I was really waiting when the Falling Kingdoms pop out. I was surprised about the romance in that one. I didn't expect it. But their chemistry is just too good for me.❤😊

[@sophiethepegasus]

I will probably actually comment later, but i just wanted to inform u that i completely shattered my sleep cycle to watch this video. it's 2am, my eyes are literally blurring, my heads spinning and i can barely hear, but im still watchin this video bc ur trope talks are so interesting and i love the way you talk about things. fuck dude, thank u for making the human garbage pile happy. like the grinch when he was shown happiness for the first time in 20 years. god bless u

[@ThoughtsOnTomes]

LOL OMFG BLESS YOU

[@Ladykaydee57]

I know you said you didn’t feel like there was any romance in Spinning Silver, but I loved Miryem and the Staryk king. They were enough romance for me. I also love the romance in the Winternight trilogy ❤️

[@jayj5535]

Sammme the romance was everything

[@karendanderfer3352]

When I was reading Uprooted and I got to the part when it looks like they are going to end up together, I DIED. It's just so so good!! Apart from the ones you have mentioned in the book, I can think of Captive Prince, that has a really angsty romance that I love!! Wolfsong also ticks the box for slowburn/angst...

[@ayabalisany5918]

I feel the same way about angst! I enjoy cute, adorable romances but if the angst factor is not there, the romance will never be that good (in my opinion). My fav angsty romances are: Most couples of both Cassie Clare and Sarah I mass The hating game by sally Thorne Lada and mehmed from and I dakren series ( their relationship is dysfunctional but very angsty.) Magnus and Cleo Inej and kaz.. and so much more.

[@Dayax25]

All my fav couples are Cassie Clare 😂

[@djarinriduur]

For me, The Infernal Devices checked all of my slow-burn, angsty romance boxes.

[@charityyoder9028]

You said "They can't be fighting in book five." and I automatically went to Falling Kingdoms... Right now, my favorite Angsty couple is Han and Raisa. Yesss to all of it.

[@yapdog]

I've been watching your videos for years, Sam, as I've been gaining my footing as a writer. And I still say that your content is indispensable for writers, aspiring and seasoned.

[@irenervbooks]

the "love me with lies" trilogy by tarryn fisher. ANGSTY AF + a lot of years go by and that adds to the drama. 100% recommended. (I think you would really enjoy reading her books)

[@silvermists7007]

Omg the Winner's Curse trilogy killed me!! I stalk Marie Rutkoski on all social media and keep resisting the urge to subtly nudge her into writing again. I need her to release something soon!!

[@RainyDaysandStormyNights]

I've been actively watching your videos for awhile and I just want to say that you seem a lot happier recently!! It's probably due to grad school being finished and having a lot less stress, but I hope that's how you're feeling and I hope you're doing well!

[@amyr3293]

I feel like Jude and Cardan will get to an optimum angst level in The Wicked King. I'm so ready for that.

[@kaylieeverhart9942]

YES the couple Girl of Fire and Thorns that you are referring to is one of the most genuine and beautiful relationships I've ever read about. I love them soooo much!!!

[@raychumon]

i like miscommunication when it's two characters coming from different perspectives and failing to properly voice their thoughts, so each leaves with a completely wrong understanding of the other's views (which later get revealed and it's an "...oh. OH" moment). or, when one of them is keeping a secret and refusing to talk about it (kinda odd example choice but like.. in the lion king, when adult simba and nala fight over whether he should return to pride rock is actually a really good example; they fight because simba cannot admit to her he 'killed' mufasa). but if it's just two people refusing to talk... meh. anyway i don't care for tv shows but i would LOVE a video games version of this!!

[@zubisstar508]

I read "remnant chronicles" because of your suggestion and I totally fell in love with the 1st book 😍 , 2nd book was also good specially kaden's chapeters...!! I have totally fallen in love with him💗

[@helencharles4323]

Best intro I’ve ever heard 😍 so real ugh

[@yapdog]

_"We're not gonna have them fighting over dumb shit in book five. Nnnah!"_ Hahahaha!

[@theimperfectscrapper5313]

I trust your book reviews because I think we have the same taste. The Night Circus is utter literary perfection! I’m so glad I read it!

[@dellieborton]

I absolutely understand the language you speak! There's just something about the feels that equal incomplete sentences!

[@kay8751]

Oh my GOD,, I’d love to see a video game/TV version of this

[@lyddiemoon]

I know you never finished the captive prince trilogy and were like neutral about it but oh man did that slow burn romance in that kill me and hurt me so bad haha 💔

[@grayde3903]

I love talking about angsty romance! I read Uprooted from your recommendation and I loved it! My favorite slow burn is definitely Kestrel and Arin ❤️

[@AlyssLysie]

I’m all for the slow burn angst!!

[@intothedarkbookstagram]

First time I have ever come across your video and I have to say Oh my gosh I love you! You are hilarious and you speak my book language. I love your commentary on angst and slow burns..

[@ThoughtsOnTomes]

thank you :))

[@jolanhildebrandt4414]

This was helpful...trying to write a fantasy romance...

[@juwonds]

MY FAVOURITE TROPE! great video as always!

[@LisaZoe86]

Have you read North and South by Elizabeth Gaskell? That is great!

[@ThoughtsOnTomes]

I haven't but I've always wanted to. Also want to watch the mini series.

[@LisaZoe86]

@@ThoughtsOnTomes I highly recommend both, both are so beautiful and painful, also very interesting

[@tpstps85]

@@ThoughtsOnTomes OMG Sam please watch the miniseries!!

[@user-tf4bu8wl4r]

the introduction is meeee as well, and also you're amazing I'm happy I found you're channel

[@idonttireeasily]

Am I bad for enjoying the miscommunication plotline? It just feels relatable to me.

[@zeetuslupeedus]

If you havent read it yet, you may be interested in starting the mirror visitor series. The first book has been translated from French and the second book comes out in english in may. They dont get together at all in the first book and the romance is a subplot and not even something i would say is romance but rather you can kind of see that it may end up that way. It's a 4 books series so if the author is going in the direction I think, then this is for sure a slow burn.

[@amaysncraftstasha]

I NEED the couple in the Witchland series to happen in Bloodwitch.

[@Alias1495]

I'm all for the angst too. I've read a few on your list and plan to read quite a few of the others.

[@BanzaiSura]

this video killed me , your precision is so on point , this is one of my favorite tropes ever and i'm dying for your Hate To Love Video

[@musingsofmoon]

I found my soul sister.... I knew it. You will be my only book recommending fairy..... Love you so much.....

[@irenervbooks]

A Court of Wings and Ruin by Sarah J Maas, and I'm mentioning the third book in the series because if you've read it you know which two I'm talking about. THE ANGST AND THE TEARS, MAN. I'm reading so many fanfiction of this couple because I love them SO MUCH... I wasn't expecting this to happen but I'm so happy. Totally worth the pain. ALSO, another trope I love is when one of the characters (SPECIALLY if it's a girl) is super cold and doesn't want to fall in love but ends up developing feelings for someone and learns to love and be loved and they end together and happy and being so soft for each other that... I just CAN'T.

[@ivega3163]

Omg I totally agree... I despise insta romance and heroines who don’t make the guy work for it or viceversa

[@LindsayPuckett]

I know you didn't really care for the book, but Eril-Fane and Azereen from Strange the Dreamer. Like, OH MY GOD. They love each other so much, but can't break through their, like, fog of misery to actually love each other the way they want. And it only gets better/worst in book 2. Hhhhhhhomg I will never be over it.

[@Ladykaydee57]

Lindsay Puckett Yes! They were my favorite part of that series! Couldn’t care less about Lazlo/Sarai as a couple, but I looooved Eril and Azereen 😭❤️

[@LindsayPuckett]

@@Ladykaydee57 right!? Like, Im cool with Lazarai (lol) but Eril-Fane and Azareen are HEART WRENCHING

[@crystalsbookishlife]

Yasssss angst queen is back with recs!!

[@tpstps85]

Girl! You need to read The Traitor Baru Cormorant... not heavy on the romance, but heavy on the will they/won´t they! (Besides it is an excellent book, the plot man, the plot!)

[@ThoughtsOnTomes]

OMG GOOD TO KNOW

[@alyssar3697]

sometimes when you talk you remind me of Patrick Warburton and it’s hilarious. like just the way your voice moves and the way you enunciate. i love it. anyway i for some reason thought you’d find this funny because i find it funny, huge fan btw

[@angelicalopez3762]

I laughed so hard from beginning to end! Seeing you so excited for this trope made my day! I love watching your videos for two reasons, your book taste, but specially when you share your thoughts, so much passion!!! Now I need to go and pick up an angsty read!! Hehehe

[@KristynRene.]

I just bumped up all of these on my TBR (aside from Night Circus since I read that already) thank you for this video!!!

[@thelonelyrose9314]

I love slow burn romances!!!

[@mono_x_noke784]

Can i just say you're like absolutely sayin' what i always want.. you're sooo great girl

[@NovelNanny]

Would you be interested in doing an updated 2021 version of this??

[@ThoughtsOnTomes]

oooh yes

[@TheEnchantedLibrary]

Love this! Angsty slow burn romances are such a win for me too. I am 2 books into The Blood of Gods and Royals series by Eleanor Herman (book 1 is Legacy of Kings) and I am just starting to get hints of a hate to love romance which I am super excited about! I cannot confirm yet if it'll happen but I am keeping my fingers crossed!

[@laracastro-]

I consider Kaz and Inej very slow burn and angsty too ???? I mean, for my standards anyway, like you said, this is smtg very personal. Kestrel and Arin YES OMG! ESPECIALLY IN THE SECOND BOOK UUUUGH!!!! My other holy grail of angsty slow burn romance is Emma and Julian from The Dark Artifices and even Cassandra Clare's little missteps (especially towards the end) with them cannot make me less invested and in love with them and the subversion of gender roles that plays with them and within their characters ????? And their intimacy and banter and dynamics in battle and out of battle and their sexual tension and chemistry and angst and suffering and the forbidden love and OMG I'M JUST GUSHING RN I SHOULD STOP! But I wont, they are The Superior Childhood Friends to Lovers to Soulmates and The Only One I claim in YA (cause for some reason, YA authors really seem unable to write childhood friends to lovers properly jesus christ, it's tragic...) Anyways, I'm in love with these trope talks Sam, I can't wait for the next ones!!!!

[@samijune5824]

ive been hunting for this video, so glad i found it

[@vamporchid]

Tv video game version yes. I have set of books that are quick reads. The Summoner Chronicled by Gail Z Martin

[@Katelynwouldratherbereading]

Loved this video!!! Exactly what I needed at the end of a long day. Give me the angst/slow burn!!!

[@carsoncrouch7895]

Jim and Pam😩

[@Ashely56]

I was so worried I was waiting thinking "oh no where is truthwitch on this list." But I'm ok now!

[@baileycornell2189]

The Savage Lands series fucking DID IT for me

[@sophiaharris4969]

You are my slow burn soulmate...

[@ThoughtsOnTomes]

:)

[@heatherabner]

Read the night circus. LOVE IT! Literally all others on my TBR. Own truthwitch and uprooted. So excited!

[@kittymachine3798]

Well, looks like I need to add a couple series to my TBR. Out of everything you mentioned, the only series I've read is the Fire and Thorns trilogy and Smoke & Bone trilogy. Love both, but appreciated the romance more in former over the latter. And of course we want all the other media angsty goodness as well!

[@IshamaMarium]

I agree about the winners trio!

[@omalleysmith9100]

My all time favourite angsty romance in both the book AND the t.v. mini-series adaptation is Father Ralph/Meggie in THE THORN BIRDS by Colleen McCullough. Classic, epic and heartwrenching. Checks all your boxes too! :)

[@xdiaz755]

Yes, the angst is very fun, ur hilarious BTW

[@nymeria941]

Uprooted is a great addition to the list! I've been lending that book out to e v e r y o n e.

[@samanghazvini9191]

I wish I could do bookclub readings with you. Quick question. While reading the hunger games were you team Gale or Peeta?

[@miledytrujillo2298]

I’m in love with your voice.

[@ThoughtsOnTomes]

Thank you :))))

[@karsonpurdy8894]

The Splintered trilogy by A.G Howard. It’s an Alice and Wonderland retailing but with a dark twist to it. It’s about Alice’s granddaughter who has to go back to wonderland and fix all the mistakes Alice made. Throughout the series I was soooo close to googling if my ship got together

[@ev6564]

Who'd you ship? I love the first book, but that love triangle was the most infuriating love triangle I've ever read so I'm hesitant to read the later books (esp since I decided to look up who the protagonist got with and was disappointed in how the author ended the love triangle )

[@bradleypeterson2322]

The Wheel of Time features a slow burn relationship - I don't wanna spoil anything, but you know the hate to love relationship between two characters that starts in The Dragon Reborn.

[@Hannah_Rachel_and_Kotik]

Need a smoky eye tutorial now like the one in your video! 😍😍😍

[@garlandthompson5970]

Holy freaking tabs girl!! 9:18 What is your method, like dang! No, but seriously, if you would want to share how you analyse and dissect stories, that would be amazing

[@KissaLintu]

Any recs for slowburn gothic romance? Like, classic gothic, not dark steamy stuff. I want angsty romance in a gothic historial context and I cant find anything like that 😢

[@kimberlykosydor5160]

Yes! Do the TV/Video Game video!💗