Trostani vs Sidisi vs Sakashima vs Roon EDH / CMDR game play for Magic

[@DarkEinherjar]

Huh... Eerie Interlude only returns the creatures at the beginning of the end step, so Loic couldn't have used it to get extra mana for the Avenger.

[@infamous0ne789]

Noticed that too, good catch

[@m.r.r.2636]

It's pretty sad how this misplay effectively conveys into an undeserved win. Without the Avenger "cheated" in, Loic wouldn't have the plants on the field nor the Avenger as a flicker-target to produce more plants to secure the win against Marty - at least not at the time that he won. I guess this is just an emphasis on the importance of reading your own cards right AND yours opponents'.

[@RunninOnYT]

@@m.r.r.2636 many people tend to rely on others too much as well. I feel like I always have to keep check on the board and players. That can drain me a bit and me and my gameplan can become less of a priority, which is bad.

[@6LordMortus9]

@@RunninOnYT I know exactly how you feel

[@bedwarssweat6205]

Me too

[@IIIColinIII]

Turn 7 Marty plays two lands from the grave. He has Muldrotha but Muldrotha only allows you to play one of each permanent type. As he has played his land from grave already any other additional lands played thanks to Azusa must be from the hand. (Friendly Muldrotha player here)

[@MTGMuddstah]

Good catch! I'll have to watch for that moving forward.

[@m.r.r.2636]

"Pro-tip": play artifact lands (Seat of Synod) with Muldrotha and additional land drop enablers (Azusa) to allow for these shenanigans. You need additional land drops as Seat of Synod covers your land drop but Muldrotha can effectively see the Seat as an artifact for her ability.

[@MTGMuddstah]

Great tip!

[@susiron1449]

Loïc must be an anime protagonist to have enough faith with that opening hand

[@josebarajas9724]

Eerie interlude does not work like he did. That’s why he won.

[@adamrawn2063]

"Hey Yugi, have you really been having someone else play for you this whole time? Isn't that CHEATING?!" "Well, actually it's like we have this transcendant spiritual connection that goes way be--" "HEY EVERYONE! YUGI'S A BIG CHEATER!"

[@NotetoSelf9292]

Your loaming shaman play was soooooo good. Loved it. Probably would've blasted sidisi with the aetherflux, but you had to send a message, I get it

[@FacGame2501]

Killing the weakest player in the table out of grudge was a bad play, period.

[@fallsenseless9699]

Literally the worst play ever💀

[@gloomyow]

The wording of muldrotha makes it so you can’t play multiple lands from your graveyard in a turn

[@MTGMuddstah]

Good catch!

[@IIIColinIII]

Unless you get another instance of Muldrotha on the board. Such as via deadeye navigator. Then you can play multiples of each permanent as long as you meet the conditions. :)

[@Kazz1187]

Ooohhhh truuuueeeeee

[@m.r.r.2636]

Same comment as on another comment-thread: "Pro-tip": play artifact lands (Seat of Synod) with Muldrotha and additional land drop enablers (Azusa) to allow for these shenanigans. You need additional land drops as Seat of Synod covers your land drop but Muldrotha can effectively see the Seat as an artifact for her ability.

[@TheMightyBattleSquid]

I was wondering how he was doing that! I assumed I had missed a card and the glare was stopping me from making sure.

[@gotdangos]

Eerie Interlude doesn't work like that. Creatures return at the beginning of the end step so he couldn't play Avenger of Zendikar that turn. Kind of disappointed nobody caught that.

[@MTGMuddstah]

Good catch!

[@loicvaillant-moreau812]

im well aware Mtgmuddstah reminds me all the time

[@griffithsmuse4899]

As a budget player, nothing is more satisfying than watching a mana crypt deal the most damage.

[@m.r.r.2636]

The turn 1 play also seemed really random from Martin as he had nothing to use it with. No counter spells with single blue cost or other instants. And furthermore could establish himself as the leading threat without actually using it for something.

[@arthurbellon9446]

Sadly Marty forgot about the second ability of the undead alchemist. Him + path of discovery + altar should have made so many more zombie tokens, probably enough to mill everyone and guarantee a win for him.

[@GaucheEtVeule]

Two Trostani decks? Amazing! Mono U Trostani for the win

[@Bf_azteca]

I built my trostani deck because I loved yours! I get excited to see trostani play every time 🥰 She does WORK!!

[@AndrewLawton16]

Love this video. This is peak Commander for me. Wild strategies, from Petitioner Mill, to Trostani lifegain and Clone Tribal. Some truly inspired plays, including the Loaming Shaman and the Greater Good getting rid of the Myriad Tokens Some rules flubs, but that's also a staple in EDH. And the from behind politicing and subterfuge to sneak in with the surprise win. I love every video on the channel but this takes the Cake for the one with everything I love about Commander

[@AndrewLawton16]

Also if you're into life gain Trostani shenanigans, one of my favorite games involved Helm of the Host making Trostani tokens that then populated other tokens. Each new token gained a ton of life. It's beautiful.

[@DarkEinherjar]

Also, even though Azusa allows more land plays, Muldrotha says "up to one permanent card of each permanent type", so only one land can be played from the graveyard. In order to play more than one land, it has to be Crucible of Worlds or Ramunap Excavator.

[@MTGMuddstah]

Ah, good catch!

[@heycowboy]

Definitely a cool way to build sidisi, also yikes to keeping a 1 lander with no ramp/acceleration

[@sephyrias883]

Ironically, the dec with 1-lander hand ended up winning.

[@dickheiney7281]

@@sephyrias883 It happens, keep a greedy ass hand and the stars align in a way for you to get just enough resources, then there is actually no dead cards.

[@ThePhoenixEager]

I absolutely love your Trostani deck! After watching basically all the games you've played with it, i've been inspired to build one myself! Looking forward for more games in the future! Keep up the great work!

[@Skybaby132]

Did everyone forget what undead alchemist does?... Cause that's a lot of triggers missed...

[@MTGMuddstah]

Yea, we missed the interaction sadly =(

[@jonathanengelke1142]

@@MTGMuddstah Woulda been a bit different I bet :)

[@TheAntoniusFunk]

Any update on that Sidisi list? I loved how this one played!

[@pietromasneri2872]

i love how the roon player had the infinite mana and infinite blink combo in play, but he was missing colorless mana so he had to win by combact

[@MasterOfTheCrystals]

There we go. I've been waiting for a new video to watch with Roon/Brago.

[@Samman-799]

Sidisi deck list? She's my favorite commander for a few years now. Interested to see how other people build the deck :)

[@neillio2000]

Sam ten Voorde I too would like to see the list. :)

[@martinhuguet2721]

First time. My new favorite mtg channel.

[@Someblondeman]

I'm so happy to see another Selesnya list playing Blade of Selves, it has some fun cheeky interactions.

[@TCG9777]

Haven't seen these oldies in f o r e v e r

[@loganl8440]

This was a really fun game to watch. So much back and forth.

[@vsDenchal]

Trostani is back! I'm happy now.

[@garrett1433]

I never keep 1 land hands in commander, it always backfires for me

[@mirkobarat2869]

Only time I keep one land hands are when I have (and can cast) land tax. Or in my WUBRG 1-drop only deck, of course.

[@shendelzaresilkwood]

Martin, Marty and Me... sounds more like a sitcom

[@tenswr6469]

I love that your name on the display is "me" Great touch.

[@TheFoxlover93]

I think it should be noted that Undead Alchemist and Altar of the Brood is a "combo", since whenever a creature would go from deck to grave for his opponents, he would make a zombie token and trigger the brood again. Its a combo, in the sense that as long as he kept hitting creatures from his opponents, he'd continue to make tokens and mill people. I know, cause I used to run this in a 60 card Kitchen Table deck I had made

[@MTGMuddstah]

Yea, we missed the interaction sadly =(

[@Gusta_Gustav]

I am also trying to create a reanimator trostani deck (inspired by you i do admit) and I find that springbloom druid can do realy good, not only as getting in ramp but also by removing two "dead cards" from the deck. Also I do consider primeval titan. The enter trigger and swing trigger both do so much with some equipment in hand; with helm of the host it can give 6 lands the first turn you swing, equipped with blade of selves it throws down 10 lands that turn! That is over a fourth of your landbase; working well with both ulvenwald hyrda and landfall triggers for a sudden swing with avenger of zendicar tokens.

[@Tehaxor1]

Prime time is banned

[@loonar7960]

That Trostani deck is sweet. I've been wanting to build Trostani reanimator for awhile.

[@trueHeBrew]

Happy Canada Day, Muddstah!

[@thelocustgod9098]

I will say that every time you play your Trostani deck, it makes me want to make a Trostani deck. But then I always get distracted with other builds for color combos I don’t run already.

[@CosmicGiggalo]

I havent finished the episode, but I have to say that Seance with Trostani is such hot tech. Im just over here laughing my ass off at how good it is! XD

[@DJVU12]

It hurts me to see so many mistakes this time around but I thoroughly enjoyed seeing almost every deck to do their thing vs someone getting mana screwed or nailing a combo win early

[@MegYork]

i could be wrong, but I think you guys missed the undead alchemist triggers. I believe that any creatures put into your yard by the alter would make a zombie and put another card into the bin. I only say this cause I've won a bunch of games like that in my wrexial deck. its one of my favorite synergies.

[@MTGMuddstah]

I think you're right. We just missed that line, sadly =(

[@ss-tl1ic]

Unless you have counter magic in hand, never play crypt unless you intend to play something that turn

[@ss-tl1ic]

I'd take my chances. Risk losing 3 life for nothing could cost you the game in the long run. If your meta consistantly gets wheel effects off turn one then bravo.

[@martindubuc3422]

Good point. Will keep that in mind!

[@kaoticshadow]

I very much enjoyed your populate/token shenanigans ;P

[@robertochonchi3899]

marty play 2 lands from the yard in the same turn

[@spyros334]

He had Azusa

[@robertochonchi3899]

cmon marty, undead alchemist triggers

[@robertochonchi3899]

@@spyros334 muldrota only can play 1 land from the yard

[@bjornmyren]

and that's is why you need a fancy hat to pass around for Monarch.

[@MTGMuddstah]

I like this idea!

[@Bf_azteca]

You should add a seed born muse to be able to populate during everyone’s turn. That’s what I did and I love it! People hate seeing her on my battlefield

[@nickp465]

Hey muddstah, what are your thoughts on crested sunmare for Trostani? You get some indestructible horses when you gain life!

[@bloodwire0]

Cant wait to see that Sidisi deck!!!

[@Vervos]

16:07 it looks like you guys are all forgetting about Undead Alchemist exiling the creatures that you would be milling and giving Marty even more advisor/zombies. Especially with you in the game still, he probably could have closed out the game before Loic's turn.

[@MTGMuddstah]

Oh no! Dang. Hm, thanks for pointing that out though!

[@Vervos]

@@MTGMuddstah Of course! I love your videos, and I always watch them right away. I have a deck that runs Undead Alchemist in the 99 so I know that it's an easy trigger to miss, but in this case potentially pretty impactful. I'm glad you brought out your Trostani deck again. That is my favorite deck and it's been too long!

[@MTGMuddstah]

I love Trostani. I really need to focus on tweaking her more. I need to put in some earlier ramp packages and I'd love to put in Vivien's Arkbow.

[@groovygorgar8408]

It's breaking my heart @mtgmuddstah that the sidisi decklist isn't out yet :/

[@AidanWR]

Marty played four lands on his last turn (Wasteland, Temple of Mystery, Forest, and Island). I know it was a long turn so he probably forgot about the Wasteland, but always try to pay attention with that

[@evafox9696]

I just don't understand why that Altar of the Brood wasn't dealt with. It makes no sense to me.

[@kristopherloomis1476]

I agree, I only remember seeing removal hit the aetherflux reservoir and something else off the rec sage. Did the mill keep them off removal?

[@pacoval4577]

having Altar of the Brood in your opening hand playing Sidisi = Godhand

[@Kazz1187]

I thought the mill strategy was a joke until that enchantment came down making all them zombies advisors

[@TheBalogna7]

A number of incorrectly played cards that game, but it was still a fun match to watch. That Seance tech is pretty awesome.

[@MTGMuddstah]

Yea, it wasn't the cleanest game. I think sometimes I'm a bit error blind when playing =(

[@Kaiser-S0ul]

I'm so happy to finally see someone else build a Sultai Petitioners deck. I personally prefer Muldrotha at the helm but it's still great.

[@DarkEinherjar]

Muldrotha is a hate magnet... it's the reason why I never put it in the command zone.

[@Kaiser-S0ul]

@@DarkEinherjar I haven't experienced this quite so much, but honestly even if someone wanted to remove her I mainly use her once, so all I need to do is get one cast off of her and I'm happy.

[@darkhydra4262]

For your Trostani deck have you considered harrowing druid for ramp? Also re-animating it just gives more ramp as well.

[@darkhydra4262]

Also far wanderings is a great card that functions as a stronger cultivate/kodama if you have threshold

[@GamerTT00]

Great game! Hope we see that sidisi list

[@Jaketheknight1]

Wouldn’t the myriad Hydras retain unblockable?

[@brandonadair5156]

Is the Sidisi deck list showing up soon?

[@darylchiu9030]

First one. Ooh, more Trostani AND Roon gameplay video. I could get ideas from this before building my own versions of the two. :3 This has been one of the swingiest games and its only the start of the month. Loaming Shaman is from M20 right? Got it from a Prize Pack?

[@fxust383]

It's also from C15

[@pedropaulofaria6126]

i really want to see the sidisi list, i got really interested

[@edwardvasquez2060]

how did you get two white from that plains?

[@ErikTheRedd1]

Ulvenwuld hydra is such a house in that deck

[@TheEchoNomix]

Please post the Sidisi decklist

[@sunutopia]

Why no greater good on Regal Behemoth token on end step?

[@MTGMuddstah]

Honestly, I totally missed it.

[@cpudraner]

Aetherflux Reservoir is my nee favorite counterspell

[@philipdaviddavies9478]

105.3 is the station i listen to in the bay area lol... wish it had more goblin noise tho...

[@tlamy1992]

Why are Marty's zombie tokens entering tapped...? That's not how Sidisi works, right?

[@MTGMuddstah]

I'm not sure. There were a few mistakes in this game, haha!

[@mistraven8234]

Sidisi, oh my lord that mill strategy 😂😂😂 damn that was nice

[@rexreg]

Great soundtrack.

[@andrewschiller9735]

Where is Sidisi deck list?

[@crovax1375]

I love Greater Good in big decks!

[@anachronity9002]

This is why cyc rift is stupid. An "oops, I win" card at instant speed that is never a dead card. Fun game though

[@angellopez6475]

Wheres the sidisi decklist

[@oscher88]

Bold 1 land opener from Roon ,, lets see how it pays off

[@obed6901]

Is it just me, or do all the episodes have the same music?

[@MTGMuddstah]

I tend to rotate through 4-5 free to use classic pieces of music, so they will probably overlap from time to time.

[@obed6901]

I might have watched two episodes with the same music in a row. thanks!

[@davidcook9153]

No global boardwipes the whole game. Your meta is drastically different then mine. It is truly interesting to see.

[@DarkEinherjar]

It varies. Sometimes it has too few of them, sometimes it has too many.

[@johannpohland2826]

Boardwipes are what makes EDH so exhaustingly long and often boring. I love to see decks doing their thing and going off sometimes. And the most disgusting thing in MTG is IMO these esper control decks playing boardwipes and counterspells almost exclusively with barely any wincons that create 3 hour games. 2-3 boardwipes per average is OK, more makes decks stronger, but games more boring

[@MTGMuddstah]

I milled most of mine.

[@fidoburst7187]

When you did your loaming shaman you could've left avenger of zendikar in your graveyard and use the seance to exile it if no one responded then you could've populated and it would've given enough life to resevoir again

[@DarkEinherjar]

Trostani was not on the battlefield. He had popped her to ensure the Loaming Shaman would be in the graveyard at the beginning of his upkeep, and didn't have mana to recast it after recasting the Reservoir.

[@orsettomorbido]

Ahhh, that Rift

[@Deadpool-ll5we]

The mimeoplasm needs another feature pls XD

[@diojoestar9646]

The dude had infinite mana and none of you saw him as a threat

[@HalianTheProtogen]

The US flag flying from the Flipside Gaming logo only has 46 stars.

[@pedropaulofaria6126]

Man its always the deck i want to build that doesnt have a list.

[@jellyfiish2870]

thats a weird, i never knew flipping a coin was the same as rolling a dice xD

[@LAmanafull6246]

you forgot every seance trigger or it's me? it triggers at each upkeep (which is degenerate :p), not only yours :)

[@Egovinco98]

its a may. He used it on Martins upkeep once. It seems to be more of a value engine for the trostani, to populate from. not to get etb triggers on opponents turns / have random blockers Since if he uses it every upkeep he exiles all his good stuff without it doing anything

[@MTGMuddstah]

I know. I just didn't want to consistently use it. The token gets exiled at the end of turn and I can only populate with Trostani once per round.

[@DarkEinherjar]

He loses the Seance tokens at the beginning of the end step unless he ends the turn before that, so unless he has Sundial of the Infinite or can populate the token, it's not advisable.

[@LAmanafull6246]

@@MTGMuddstah Mmmmmm makes sense in this case, indeed :) I just couldn't keep myself to think, whit that many things in the graveyard (thk to the mill, bro), i would be popping things all the time for ETB :D

[@gearsocfenix]

A writer for Edhrec needs to look at Altar of the Brood?

[@jazza724]

Could you do a Control Deck edh gameplay?

[@miliantocokropranajaya2853]

Eerie interlude doesn’t work like that , and it’s pretty funny how the roon player just need one more land that produce colorless mana to go infinite blink and mana with displacer and peregrine drake but he didn’t get the land 😂

[@weldonryckman4521]

ya i did a double take on the Eerie interlude as well

[@addambarcelos]

sidisi with petitioners? interesting

[@Tobylovesmusick]

Unfortunate for all of those missed triggers. Feel like that's why you put Undead Alchemist in this deck.

[@kingjoker3793]

:T ...does anyone in ya group have a memnarch deck?

[@jamiewigle2306]

Am I crazy or did Loic not realize he went infinite with Peregrine Drake and Eldrazi Displacer?

[@MTGMuddstah]

He didn't have a colorless source to activate the Displacer.

[@loicvaillant-moreau812]

I don't know what do you mean 😁

[@alemorikec]

Thank you Loic!

[@darksteelmenace595]

Im not sure if drawing 26 cards is a good play against a mill deck but ok^^

[@Compnooka]

I thought that too untik I saw the Loaming Shaman. It made sense then that he wanted to dig for the best answers he could find, knowing he could hit the reset button if necessary.

[@darksteelmenace595]

@@Compnooka But he could have bought himself more time by using the shaman later

[@Compnooka]

@@darksteelmenace595 notice that he had to discard the shaman last-second from his hand. I think he was initially trying to get multiple activations from shaman (from playing it but also from making tokens of it), but he realized late he was going to mill out before he could play it. Maybe he just wanted to get it in hand?

[@amarmehta01]

You might want to put an Elixir of Immortality in your deck to avoid mill.

[@DarkEinherjar]

Elixir won't help if it gets milled... I'd put Ulamog, but the deck's name implies that he wants his creatures to stay in the graveyard, so he can turn them into tokens.

[@Arcdemon44]

That and/or a Wheel of Sun and Moon

[@DarkEinherjar]

His deck wants creatures in the graveyard so he can turn them into tokens with Seance/God Pharaoh's Gift. Wheel goes against that.

[@Arcdemon44]

@@DarkEinherjar Still might be worth including or side boarding in case you are going up against mill strats like that sidisi

[@plain6677]

Such a boring win! That’s disgusting as Sidisi worked so hard to get the win

[@michaelnaramore9310]

Really would have blasted sidisi out of the sky because that was a pretty big hindrance to your deck once the engine got rolling (plus feels like a bigger message of don't try to mill me out). Though I do respect gunning down copy.deck as it was just gonna keep stealing or copying your biggest payoff cards

[@devilproducoes5990]

CADE A SIDISI CADE ONDE TAH AAAAAAAAAA

[@Taylors_Ghost]

Homeward path should just be in all decks... Stupid thieves. Don't touch my stuff!

[@ThaChedda]

0:41 games starts

[@kingjoker3793]

Before I watch the match I'm hoping sakashima the imposter wins...Marty's deck is annoying but meh n the deck I wanted to win lost first

[@DarkEinherjar]

Not surprising... it's monoblue, which already raises eyebrows just for the possibility of being counter-heavy, and it's also focused on stealing permanents, which draws a lot of hate.

[@kingjoker3793]

@@DarkEinherjar hm :( but I like mono blue(some) like stormtide leviathan n that octopus :(

[@martindubuc3422]

​@@DarkEinherjar I started strong, and I think Andrew got worried I would be the main threat on the table. Did not help that I kept stealing/copying his stuff. He gunned me down when he had the chance. I should have tried to play more of the political game to level things out. I really enjoy playing this deck because it always plays out differently and it adapts to the level of the table. But it is difficult to play because you have to quickly figure out the synergy of each deck and decide which way to go.

[@badvoodoo2097]

You could have won if you just shot Loic first And then rebuilt to shoot Marty Martin was doing much You just got into your feelings and it cost you

[@daem0nfaust]

Aetherflux Revenge.

[@martindubuc3422]

Was really sad when it came back on his side of the board.

[@joshualee3229]

Hi