Trostani vs Alesha vs Ghave vs Sen Triplets EDH / CMDR game play for Magic: The Gathering

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MTG Muddstah

MTG Muddstah

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@MrMcSack
@MrMcSack 6 жыл бұрын
>Winter and Construction< sounds like a toptier modern-deck. I'd play it.
@ms.sysbit5511
@ms.sysbit5511 6 жыл бұрын
Dustiness same here in Massachusetts. Winter and Road Repair.
@esperderek5383
@esperderek5383 6 жыл бұрын
So, here's an important lesson: All things being equal, if an opponent has both Mirari's Wake and Zendikar Resurgent out, you should probably take out the Zendikar Resurgent. +1/+1 to all creatures is generally wayless dangerous than letting them draw a card every time they cast a creature, and if they regrow the Resurgent, it costs 7 to Mirari's 5, so it'll cost them more to play it again. But mostly the on-cast card draw trigger.
@adams333
@adams333 6 жыл бұрын
I was thinking the same thing while watching the game.
@luckyskin09
@luckyskin09 6 жыл бұрын
agree 100%
@RobbieEctor
@RobbieEctor 6 жыл бұрын
My thoughts exactly.
@MrHeroZero7
@MrHeroZero7 6 жыл бұрын
Pretty sure your first Rishkar's expertise got countered by Jamies Soul manipulation, which can only counter creature spells... not a huge deal but did change the game a bit.
@ThreatLevel9
@ThreatLevel9 6 жыл бұрын
Bryan would not draw from Deathreap Ritual when Alesha “died” from Vindicate as she went to the command zone, which is a replacement effect, so it didn’t actually die.
@dahuntre
@dahuntre 4 жыл бұрын
... until now!
@YouWillNeverKnowMan
@YouWillNeverKnowMan 6 жыл бұрын
When I see "Me" among the players, I instantly like the video 50% more.
@CeltiesSin
@CeltiesSin 6 жыл бұрын
Processor feels so dirty in Tristani, but is so satisfying when it hits the field xD
@EliPye35
@EliPye35 6 жыл бұрын
5:27 "Completely destroys my immersion in the game" lol Equipment will do that.
@marceloquejinho
@marceloquejinho 6 жыл бұрын
Eli Pye remember when Standard was about a bunch os hawks holding swords?? Good times, old times
@EliPye35
@EliPye35 6 жыл бұрын
Marcelo Leria Yup!!
@thegheredin5700
@thegheredin5700 6 жыл бұрын
The true face of fear is a sigarda wielding 3 swords, two hammers and an hot soup
@bryanstage9715
@bryanstage9715 6 жыл бұрын
Rules stuff: Alesha doesn't trigger morbid when she goes to the command zone. Rishkar's Expertise isn't a creature, so soul manipulation cannot counter it. Muddstah should gain 18 life from Momentous Fall, as it should still be doubled. Muddstah should have an extra floating mana from casting mirari's wake on turn ten. Bryan should be making some extra saprolings on end steps with floating mana with all those overrun anthem effects in his deck. He misses a lethal twice because of it. Sometimes the play is just to have a bunch of dudes and murder people, especially when Trostani gains so much life every turn. I think the right play is still to force Muddstah to altar to get blockers out of the way, but I'm not actually sure what Jeff can do to you with your deck rolling and at such high life totals. As always, I love your videos Muddstah. Keep on doing your thing =D
@DarkEinherjar
@DarkEinherjar 6 жыл бұрын
I'm surprised everyone kept targeting Mirari's Wake instead of Zendikar Resurgent... sure, pumping creatures may be a nuisance, but drawing a card for every creature cast sounds even more dangerous to me.
@hafusan
@hafusan 6 жыл бұрын
Dang, I just discovered this channel. Instead of going to bed to get enough sleep I find myself binging your videos and having a blast. Already in love with your channel, thank you for making videos!
@signisakanades1329
@signisakanades1329 6 жыл бұрын
One note with Coat of Arms and Mirror Entity, the thopters would have been much larger, as it gives them all every creature type. Harsh Sustenance wouldn't have killed the entity and each creature would have been size 25/25 or something like that.
@MTGMuddstah
@MTGMuddstah 6 жыл бұрын
Oh good point!
@Eru22gr
@Eru22gr 6 жыл бұрын
In that case shouldn't you have gained more life from the elephant token entering the battlefield :) ? Really enjoyed the game, keep up the good work !
@Zaalbarjedi
@Zaalbarjedi 6 жыл бұрын
8:00 Note for future: you cannot cast both Path and Claim by tapping only Command Tower, as under Resurgent you would add either WW or GG, but not WG.
@zakkwyllde
@zakkwyllde 6 жыл бұрын
soul manipulation (jamie's counterspell for rishkars expertise) can only counter creature spells :/ cool game nonetheless!
@MTGMuddstah
@MTGMuddstah 6 жыл бұрын
Oops!
@anachronity9002
@anachronity9002 6 жыл бұрын
Also Bryan shouldn't have drawn off of Deathreap Ritual for killing Alesha. If a commander 'dies' and gets sent to the command zone. Being returned to the command zone is a replacement effect - they never actually went to the graveyard and thus don't trigger those abilities. That's a really common slip-up, I know, because even if you're aware of that rule it's still very unintuitive and easy to forget.
@krazedcosmo
@krazedcosmo 6 жыл бұрын
Great Job Muddstah! I have built a deck based on your Trostoni deck and I quite love it.
@BaalDaimon6
@BaalDaimon6 6 жыл бұрын
1:49 when alesha was put into the command zone, she didn't die, therefore no morbid trigger
@MTGMuddstah
@MTGMuddstah 6 жыл бұрын
Good catch!
@andreasorphanou5469
@andreasorphanou5469 6 жыл бұрын
I honestly think this was one of the most impressive and fun to watch games on your channel! gg well played
@6render
@6render 5 жыл бұрын
I've watch A LOT of your videos now and I've got to say, I enjoy watching these far more than the command zone (which I also enjoy)
@guillermojrboy3292
@guillermojrboy3292 6 жыл бұрын
Your Trostani deck was extremely resilient. Very impressive! I built a budget Trostani once, but dismantled after a couple of games. I didn't know Trostani can be this powerful.
@dietmargotsch592
@dietmargotsch592 6 жыл бұрын
I have to say that i didnt like the old goblin voice, but I miss it now every time i see the intro...
@CheesyBrie13
@CheesyBrie13 6 жыл бұрын
um... Coat of Arms and Mirror Entity on the board at the same time... ummm.... i think it had +Board/+State and that the harsh sustenance wouldn't have been enough to kill it
@MTGMuddstah
@MTGMuddstah 6 жыл бұрын
Yea, mistakes were made!
@crazydude324
@crazydude324 6 жыл бұрын
So everyone forgot Coat of arms is a global effect? the shapeshifter should have been huge/huge and the thopters would have dealt more damages. Can't blame you though, every time the card is played in my playground we either forget it or just destroy it on sight because "it's too annoying to count every time".
@MTGMuddstah
@MTGMuddstah 6 жыл бұрын
I blame Jeff, but you're right. It just didn't click for us.
@AffinityForCommander
@AffinityForCommander 6 жыл бұрын
Great game! Trostani is incredibly powerful!
@Acraviotot
@Acraviotot 6 жыл бұрын
Wow. Every time I see that Trostani deck I love it more and more. That was a great game!
@kennythereaver1
@kennythereaver1 6 жыл бұрын
That was a really good game. I kept thinking threat assessment. The recursion in your deck is bonkers.
@vaclavposlednik9855
@vaclavposlednik9855 6 жыл бұрын
I really like that silent Danse Macabre, that plays at the start. Gains the video so much tension :D
@nickreed1367
@nickreed1367 3 жыл бұрын
i absolutely love the sol kanar the swamp king playmat. It brings back fond memories from way back, i need me one!
@HateParty
@HateParty 6 жыл бұрын
I love how your trostani deck is put together. A graveyard subtheme deck in those colors is so cool to see.
@aarontenner6362
@aarontenner6362 6 жыл бұрын
What a great game for your trostani deck; each time i see it, it tempts me to build it, despite how I already have my favorite selesyna deck
@silminnee4876
@silminnee4876 4 жыл бұрын
You’re Trostani deck is absolutely amazing
@admanios
@admanios 6 жыл бұрын
Whoa. Your Trostani deck really knows how to bounce back!
@171relic
@171relic 6 жыл бұрын
I’m sold. Building Trostani. The Seance is hilarious
@worldthroughabucket
@worldthroughabucket 6 жыл бұрын
Nice game! I was constantly trying to figure out why you were milling yourself. Then you dropped that seance and it all made sense :p (Also Karmic Guide and Sun Titan).
@MTGMuddstah
@MTGMuddstah 6 жыл бұрын
My Trostani build aims to exile creatures from the GY to make them into tokens. I've got a primer up on the channel that explains it in details.
@Wurikasikan
@Wurikasikan 6 жыл бұрын
My new favorite channel. Keep it up guys. 😃😃😃😃. What a gem.
@RandoFromMars
@RandoFromMars 4 жыл бұрын
Matching playmats are just... *chef's kiss*
@rexxraul
@rexxraul 6 жыл бұрын
I, for one, enjoyed the RKF playmats!
@LeeeroyJensen
@LeeeroyJensen 6 жыл бұрын
Wouldn't you have gained 18 life off of the momentous fall because of Faithmender?
@redmillion7089
@redmillion7089 6 жыл бұрын
I was thinking the same thing.
@MTGMuddstah
@MTGMuddstah 6 жыл бұрын
I'm bad at math =(
@DarkEinherjar
@DarkEinherjar 6 жыл бұрын
MTG Muddstah no, you're just bad at remembering your own triggers and replacement effects, as Rhystic Study has proven it. :P
@MTGMuddstah
@MTGMuddstah 6 жыл бұрын
Hurtful, but I mean, you're not wrong.....
@xellsunday
@xellsunday 6 жыл бұрын
youre still my favourite cmdr channel so dont worry
@andyik9009
@andyik9009 6 жыл бұрын
love that trostani deck, always fun watching you play it
@darylchiu9030
@darylchiu9030 6 жыл бұрын
That eleventh hour life gain was insane. Trostani is a beast in your hands. :D
@bananacatrun4848
@bananacatrun4848 6 жыл бұрын
That was an amazing game, I am so impressed with your Trostani deck, my god! Makes me wanna make a Trostani deck
@urawhat
@urawhat 6 жыл бұрын
That trostani deck is 🔥. 😎😎😎 Cool game! I never saw the mill win coming.
@MarvelOfRain
@MarvelOfRain 6 жыл бұрын
Maybe the single best game I have seen on this channel. Up until the last couple of turns I wasn´t sure who is going to win. Also love the Trostani deck. It really came together and it is interesting to see it´s development from your Conquering the Commander video up to this point. There is nothing more fun in EDH-deck building than doing something certain colour combination really isn´t supposed to do. Waiting to see how good Bramble Sovereign is in the deck. Do you also run Helm of the Host or do you find it a bit too clunky?
@Garchicero
@Garchicero 5 жыл бұрын
1:45 Im not sure if Alesha going to the Zone would have triggered Deathreap Ritual, because it never technically dies if you send her away due to a replacement effect.
@MostafaWatji
@MostafaWatji 6 жыл бұрын
Lovely game :p I truly love your Trostani deck, everytime a pleasure to watch it ! Greetings from France :)
@BangThatGong
@BangThatGong 6 жыл бұрын
Wow that was a fun game. I want to see more trostani now that it looks like youve really ironed it out!
@MTGMuddstah
@MTGMuddstah 6 жыл бұрын
It's getting there. I still need to work on the early game. I find it can be a bit bulky and slow turns 1 - 5 if I don't hit a ramp card or two.
@placeholdername-1
@placeholdername-1 4 жыл бұрын
This Trostani gameplay is so satisfying. Top tier non-cedh deck.
@Squidxx-fg7ih
@Squidxx-fg7ih 6 жыл бұрын
Wow that was an awesome game! great job with Trostani you hung on by a thread for a while there
@ryanmullen9177
@ryanmullen9177 6 жыл бұрын
After watching a few of your videos with Trostani I'm really tempted to make this kind of deck with her!
@Serberus08
@Serberus08 6 жыл бұрын
Not sure how you split the colours for the Path and nature's claim
@Lucarioguild7
@Lucarioguild7 6 жыл бұрын
You see Muddstah when a mommy Nalaar and a daddy Nalaar love each other very much...
@luisgonzalez121
@luisgonzalez121 6 жыл бұрын
This was the most interesting Trostani deck that i have ever seen
@MayoIsMyInstrument
@MayoIsMyInstrument 5 жыл бұрын
Same seasons as Minnesota. Hello from South Canada.
@tonyontilt3522
@tonyontilt3522 6 жыл бұрын
Glad to see you finally win a game with Trostani, I'm building her right now & watching all the games to see what works well. Do you run any token doublers or not worth it in your build?
@ms.sysbit5511
@ms.sysbit5511 6 жыл бұрын
Your Terastodon restored my faith in this game after Vindicate was WASTED so horribly when the Deathreap Ritual and the Journey to Eternity were* there. Jamie wasted a power card right there.
@MTGMuddstah
@MTGMuddstah 6 жыл бұрын
Haha thanks!
@lucasoyarzun9902
@lucasoyarzun9902 6 жыл бұрын
Lovely trostani deck as always!
@reinoutvangeel
@reinoutvangeel 6 жыл бұрын
Love these RKF playmats!
@addambarcelos
@addambarcelos 6 жыл бұрын
Dude, your trostani deck is insane. So much value xD.
@MTGMuddstah
@MTGMuddstah 6 жыл бұрын
Merci!
@knightfromlordran
@knightfromlordran 6 жыл бұрын
ive watched your trostani deck a few times its fun as hell to watch
@namename4903
@namename4903 6 жыл бұрын
Gotta say that i love Trostani and all the life gain shenanigans. She is my personal favorite commander!
@pietromasneri2872
@pietromasneri2872 6 жыл бұрын
i don't really understood why Jeff kept destroying your mirari's wake instead of your zendikar resurgens
@Customerbuilder
@Customerbuilder 6 жыл бұрын
I think Jeff should have tutored for Murderous Red on Turn 7, and cast it w/ his 4 open mana. Cast Alesha turn 8, attack, recur Anafenza, forcing the table to deal with a combo piece or lose on the spot. Alesha is nasty; even budget builds have several great combos. It's hard to see the right line without playing a ton of games.
@MTGMuddstah
@MTGMuddstah 6 жыл бұрын
Yup! It's a tough call sometimes and we can easily get lost in the moment and miss some lines on occasion.
@drvinylscratch1936
@drvinylscratch1936 6 жыл бұрын
It feels good to know that whenever I play an esper deck usually Oloro or Sen Trips I’m not the only one who gets bolted down to death early on because the deck is too much of a threat. Tell/Reccomend Jamison to make Oloro the commander and add a few cards to abuse his totally not eminence, eminence effect so he has more life to survive getting bolted down while he draws some tutors to find the triplets. And also have more resources.
@zaddyzathog4087
@zaddyzathog4087 6 жыл бұрын
lol bryan was clearly upset with me for stealing his memorial, so i died like 10 mins into the game pretty annoying. ill consider your recommendation thanks
@thewaffler43
@thewaffler43 6 жыл бұрын
Well done bro! I bet playing trostani this game was fun af
@seanmachlan3282
@seanmachlan3282 6 жыл бұрын
Love your version of Trostani.
@classicsidepart1477
@classicsidepart1477 6 жыл бұрын
Great game once more... can only imagine how long it was in real time :-) Josh and Jimmy from the Command Zone almost ALWAYS say: "Whoever starts to cast multiple spells a turn and channels through his deck is likely to win the game." ==> Well, I guess green/white just showed us how it's done ;-)
@MTGMuddstah
@MTGMuddstah 6 жыл бұрын
The game was about an hour and forty five.
@MrHoorang
@MrHoorang 4 жыл бұрын
jamie conter sorcery with @conter creature spell@ in 6:00
@jakekenny5007
@jakekenny5007 6 жыл бұрын
So at 5:56 did Jamie use Soul Manipulation to counter a Non-Creature Spell? But anyways I enjoy the videos for the crazy commanders people build!
@MTGMuddstah
@MTGMuddstah 6 жыл бұрын
Yea, we realized in the game after that it was Creature only. It was a bit of a whoops, but it was too late to fix lol.
@Riftstatic
@Riftstatic 6 жыл бұрын
I suddenly want to try building a Trostani deck. From 2 health to over 170, my god was that satisfying to watch. I would love it if you posted your current deck list on tapped out
@MTGMuddstah
@MTGMuddstah 6 жыл бұрын
The list is on TappedOut. All lists that are available are always in the about section.
@dakotagraham888
@dakotagraham888 6 жыл бұрын
I watch in VR, so that it feels like I'm actually there
@MTGMuddstah
@MTGMuddstah 6 жыл бұрын
You might want to avoid games with Kevin in them then. He farts A LOT.
@AuraXars
@AuraXars 6 жыл бұрын
I really wanna build trostani Graveyard shenanigans now, that was super cool
@robertburns22
@robertburns22 6 жыл бұрын
that counter at 5:50 isnt a creature counter spell?
@Cabbrickk
@Cabbrickk 6 жыл бұрын
The Trostani deck is awesome! :D
@ArcFallen1
@ArcFallen1 6 жыл бұрын
Awesome game! Trostani really rocks!
@DeluluDan
@DeluluDan 6 жыл бұрын
Nice comeback! I noticed my decks lack in situations like that. Any future vids for tips?
@lachlanjones962
@lachlanjones962 6 жыл бұрын
So my gag is going to be I only play graveyard decks. I already have Mimeoplasm-tron and Karador etb built, I have half a deck of Trostani token reanimator in sleeves (Still need trade for more cards), and I'm planning on building Alesha aristorcrats. Any other graveyard decks I should add to the list?
@FrowningTable
@FrowningTable 6 жыл бұрын
5:56 soul manipulation can only counter creatures, right
@Shirano556
@Shirano556 6 жыл бұрын
I really want to build a a trostani deck like yours. It looks so fun
@crypticmrchimes
@crypticmrchimes 6 жыл бұрын
Tristan’s token reanimator? Well this was a surprise... And as an Alaskan I can sympathize. The four seasons in Anchorage are June, July, August, and Winter.
@mathieu7921
@mathieu7921 6 жыл бұрын
Hey! Really like your video and channel. You said you film in Mtl. I'm from the area too. Do you film in an LGS?
@MTGMuddstah
@MTGMuddstah 6 жыл бұрын
I do! Typically I film at Gamerz Co-Op on Thursdays, but sometimes I go to L'Abyss in St-Michel.
@exaroc571
@exaroc571 6 жыл бұрын
what a way to win, amazing.
@Quroe_
@Quroe_ 6 жыл бұрын
Back from the brink! That's what I like.
@ADGamingLLC
@ADGamingLLC 4 жыл бұрын
OMG where did you get those Richard Kane Ferguson artwork playmats?????
@Javx97
@Javx97 6 жыл бұрын
* GENERIC TOKEN NOISE *
@liamwood2878
@liamwood2878 6 жыл бұрын
I never seen a Trostani deck in action is this a normal build? it's interesting that it wants things in grave and i love it!
@SampleChan
@SampleChan 6 жыл бұрын
I went to look at the alesha list, are you sure it's the same as the one that was played in the vid ? Knowing phyrexian tower alone is ~£30, I doubt the video alesha list is budget :P
@pauldyson8098
@pauldyson8098 6 жыл бұрын
"Winter and construction." lol!
@adams333
@adams333 6 жыл бұрын
So true...
@spiralhaze2070
@spiralhaze2070 6 жыл бұрын
14:40 - 15:40 Whoops all life, Whoops all libraries!
@Fearthecow792
@Fearthecow792 6 жыл бұрын
1. Deathreap ritual, and any morbid triggers for that matter, don't trigger off Commanders hitting the Command zone, as Alesha did. 2. You would have gained 18 life, not 9 from the momentous fall on terastodon, as Rhox Faithmender was on your battlefield. 3. Coat of arms affects ALL creatures, and mirror entity turns creatures into ALL creature types, as well as making them base x/x, so all creatures on the field (and more importantly, the attacking ones) would have grown considerably. On this same point, your elephant token hitting the field would have gained you more life.
@MTGMuddstah
@MTGMuddstah 6 жыл бұрын
Good catches!
@flaminggorilla909
@flaminggorilla909 6 жыл бұрын
This was a really good game well played guys
@JurinoJr
@JurinoJr 5 жыл бұрын
Can someone explain Jamie what "instant speed" is?
@yoshisalaverry5502
@yoshisalaverry5502 6 жыл бұрын
Why block a 1/1 token when he has Deathreap Ritual out?? I would MUCH rather fall to 39 than let him draw a card. Also why target a persist creature with Duplicant when you have a sac outlet on board?
@grillosantos8599
@grillosantos8599 6 жыл бұрын
Hey my dudes and dudettes, can you all help me with something? does any of you know a video where they drop a test of endurance on the field, and andrew makes a freeze frame scratch record effect. Anyone knows what video it is?
@MTGMuddstah
@MTGMuddstah 6 жыл бұрын
It's this game: kzbin.info/www/bejne/kGLWe5uOeKl4obc&list=PLtMmIcAO3f9p4kGRFaLOoK-pu7nrQXPlQ&index=39
@grillosantos8599
@grillosantos8599 6 жыл бұрын
hell yeah, thank you
@xakuyer
@xakuyer 6 жыл бұрын
I will name myself *Generic goblin noise* on whatever game i can !
@jormungardwe
@jormungardwe 6 жыл бұрын
this trostani deck is looking sweeter by the weeks.
@daniellawhorne181
@daniellawhorne181 6 жыл бұрын
Holy crap, what a game!
@Eishinryujoe
@Eishinryujoe 4 жыл бұрын
It’s strange to run Akroma’s Memorial in a Ghave deck. Doesn’t it basically make it that you can’t use Ghave’s abilities?
@calebhalbrook1506
@calebhalbrook1506 6 жыл бұрын
Pretty sure you should've been gaining double life from faithmender, notably when saccing terastodon to momentous fall
@DarkEinherjar
@DarkEinherjar 6 жыл бұрын
I was about to ask why you didn't exile BOTH graveyards with the double trigger from Angel of Finality... but then you just milled Jeff out of the game, so never mind.
@MTGMuddstah
@MTGMuddstah 6 жыл бұрын
It was a power move. I had to assert my dominance on the table by showing Jeff that his graveyard meant NOTHING to me.
@pkphantom
@pkphantom 4 жыл бұрын
That Trostani was HELLA resilient 😯
@JustOneOnOne
@JustOneOnOne 6 жыл бұрын
Why wont the guy share his Ghave deck? Does anyone a good semi budget list? Thanks
@permafrost2064
@permafrost2064 6 жыл бұрын
Other than the potential win con as seen in this video, why do you run altar of dementia? Is it intended as a wincon? or do you run it for another reason.
@ms.sysbit5511
@ms.sysbit5511 6 жыл бұрын
Kirk Fortune to mill himself to prime his yard.
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