Troubleshooting Onkyo Garbage Receivers for No Sound, No speaker relay click

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@SolidSleds
@SolidSleds Жыл бұрын
I bought an Onkyo used a few years ago and it had no sound when I connected. I saw your video and decided to try your trick for the heck of it. IT WORKED!!!!! I don't care if it is a temporary fix, your video resurrected this boat anchor and made my purchase worth it. Thank you so much.
@jsar4838
@jsar4838 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you once again! I did this method to my onkyo tx-nr414 half a year ago. Few days ago I lost the audio and I did this trick again. Enjoying good music again! Thank you:)
@runepedersenDK
@runepedersenDK 5 жыл бұрын
Finally! Been watching this very interesting channel for a long time, been waiting for this. Got two of those recievers, a TX-NR579 (driving two Klipsch RB 51 used as computerspeakers), and a TX-NR 808 as main HiFi unit. Both are approx 8 years old.and they always had a lot of cooling space arround them, and were never abused. The 579 failed in 2016 and was put in a closet, and after I realized that there was an extended warranty, I send it in (2017/2018) and it was repaired (new HDMI board). Still working fine. The 808 never failed. Thanks for a very cool channel!
@Fifury161
@Fifury161 5 жыл бұрын
Nice customer service - it's always good to prove out the fault and provide a cost of a proper repair! Thanks for sharing.
@richardhalliday159
@richardhalliday159 5 жыл бұрын
Occasionally the BGA solder pads do not 100% flow in the cct. board manufacture and the odd ball may end up just having a ‘touch’ contact that may work and not show a fault until later. In and amongst my life as an electronic technician before retiring from the game, I was involved in a R&D and debugging role at a major digital satellite and cable receiver manufacturer and occasionally came across this problem, giving the chip a little tickle with a fine nozzle on a hot air gun sometimes cured the problem, even using an expensive professional rework station replacing. BGA (ball grid array) is a nightmare, you cannot guarantee that additional heat applied after original board flow will not damage the internal tracking of a multilayered circuit board, as you say, the bit of heat with a bit of luck will keep your board running a while but you end up repairing it as a freebie!! Keep your little films coming,I’m sure they help a lot of people
@thiyagarajandayalan734
@thiyagarajandayalan734 5 жыл бұрын
This trick worked for me. I am from Chennai India. Great and thanks to you.
@pdxway
@pdxway 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Thanks to your video, I decided to purchase a 300w heat gun from Amazon. Just two hours ago, I tried heat gun about 3" away for about 2 minutes. I tried power on twice and both times my 808 would have sound right away from cold power on. Will see how long this lasts.
@stephaniemanchester-chermo3840
@stephaniemanchester-chermo3840 2 жыл бұрын
Our family business is the rebuilding and/or repairing of 1960’s to 2000’s Harley Davidson V-twin engines and after decades of dealing with the general public I’ve learned that leveling with people and simplifying things as much as possible when explaining a technical issue is greatly appreciated. Anyone that would give this a “thumbs down” must not understand the point of many of these videos? Anyway, great video, thanks for the information. 😊
@GameInterest
@GameInterest 5 жыл бұрын
I really dig the no frills approach you do. You just say what you're going to do and you do it. Also, your lighting is pretty good.
@obelixer9751
@obelixer9751 3 ай бұрын
First you could try to hold the CBL/SAT button while turning the power on. release and you see CLEAR... it switches off by itself after a few seconds and maybe that fixes the no-sound. it did with my TX-NR515. now my inlaw had the same problem with his TX-NR616 but didn't work resetting. so I gave him mine 515 which died a few weeks later. end of story I reflowed the DSP with no luck, then removed it and seen some bad contacts (hooray) cleaned, tinned, cleaned etc. but again no luck. 2 boat anchors :) Tho wondering if I can mod these to become "dumb" amps and surpass all the smartness build in these things. schematics where art thou?
@donaldfilbert4832
@donaldfilbert4832 5 жыл бұрын
How could anyone give you a thumbs down for such an innovative; simple; and totally conclusive trouble shooting test? I thought that was amazing !! I do wonder where you might find programmed DSP chip replacements for any of these recent intelligent receivers ??
@kindanyume
@kindanyume 5 жыл бұрын
idiot elieteists snob fuktards that think anythingnotdone with a fancy station that costs as much as a car just can never be good etc etc same sort od morons that buy XTZ brand thinking its cook cause they paid $$$ meanwhile reality is the exact same thing is sold under abc logo at 1/ the price and they would look down on those buting abc brnd once again there is no lack of stupidity in the universe!
@deangale4496
@deangale4496 Жыл бұрын
And why wouldn't Texas instruments re issue one that worked
@materialsguy2002
@materialsguy2002 5 жыл бұрын
Onkyo has always had great features (10.2 sound before anyone else, etc) but I was always concerned about reliability. I ended up with a Yamaha and I love it. Thanks for the video and a cool (hot) diagnosis!
@gplusgplus2286
@gplusgplus2286 3 жыл бұрын
My basic year 2000 Yamaha still works. Ive had it on my TV and connected HTPC and never turn it off, right now its playing this video.
@tacofortgens3471
@tacofortgens3471 Жыл бұрын
Yamaha isnt like they used to be, build the same way as Onkyo's Denons and Hamron Kardons. Cheap
@Starphot
@Starphot 5 жыл бұрын
Nice video. I've been out of repairing receivers and other things since 2001 when I was laid off and then ill after 30 years in the business. This looks more like a computer motherboard than an analog receiver to me! When I got laid off, these SMD micros were slowly populating the boards of the newer models. I've seen a lot of thermal problems on the older units of various descriptions like the one described in your video.
@jebbj19
@jebbj19 Ай бұрын
Some are EXPENSIVE garbage. Thanks for helping. My TX-NR5008 preouts for fronts and center channels stopped working. You should have seen me scrambling to Martin Logan's help center only to find it was the receiver. Thanks.
@makeminefreedom
@makeminefreedom 5 жыл бұрын
Great tip. I never thought of doing this before. It does makes sense that continuous heating and cooling would eventually crack a solder joint. Thanks for sharing.
@12voltvids
@12voltvids 5 жыл бұрын
It is either a cracked solder joint or a cracked silicon die inside the chip.
@vdochev
@vdochev Жыл бұрын
It's the interposer inside the chip. If you heat it up things expand and make contact again. The bad thing is things also shrink... So, as the owner of the video said, it's not a proper repair, you need to replace the chip with a good one. And then probably provide good ventilation when using it.
@GTAmelody
@GTAmelody Жыл бұрын
@@vdochev I see that non-existent cooling on DSP's is the main reason of their faults?! Thank You both for your knowledge!
@mrcrazyjonpresents4312
@mrcrazyjonpresents4312 5 жыл бұрын
I have TXNR609 which i bought nearly 2 years back From what i can gather i'm the second owner of it from brand new Having watched you vid i thought i would have a look at the famous HDMI board and the DSP chip as you pointed out and i was happy to see a little sticker on top of it saying NEW lol so i'm praying that this means someone once changed it All this means now is one day the HDMI board will probably fail next but seen as this amp has been around now 9 years i just hope it lasts till i can afford a new Dolby Atmos based amp one day lol Great vid
@kd5yut
@kd5yut 5 жыл бұрын
watt is the wattage on that lamp you are using? I need to get one of those. I have been using my hot air rework station for that
@snowyrain5730
@snowyrain5730 2 жыл бұрын
That's a halogen MR (mirrored reflector) bulb and they're usually 30-50 watts... but be careful, they get VERY (VERY!) hot!
@shelterstation
@shelterstation 5 жыл бұрын
Many thanks. Worked for me on my TX-NR609 just now. 3-4 minutes heating with a 50W 240v Halogen Bulb touching the TI Chip. If it doesn't last then I will try 6 minutes. Started to smell a but burnt dusty.
@jonahtacastacas8672
@jonahtacastacas8672 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you. I watch your video yesterday and apply it in the next morning. Now it’s working. Your video was a big help. Thank you very much and more power.
@nancyfansher4791
@nancyfansher4791 5 жыл бұрын
I have been through so many Onkyo's. The last great trouble free one I owned was a TX NR901. Used daily until I just had to have HDMI. Even then the 901 was used in a garage setup for another 10 years with zeo problems. When I went HDMI, I decided to go with the TX SR805. I was so impressed with it that I bought a TX NR905 to get Ethernet input and moved the 805 to my front room setup. well, not soon after that the 805 video and sound. Tried to get it repaired, but Onkyo wouldn't honor. At that time I bought a TX NR807 on clearance to replace it. Not soon after the 905 lost sound. I was able to locate a TX NR5007 on closeout and picked it up. Again, Onkyo refused to fix the 905, so on the shelf it went. You know where this is going, not soon after the 807 failed. Lost Video, Ethernet and audio. I tried the 5008, but started having issues out of the gate with it and was able to return it. At this point I was done with Onkyo and switched to Denon. Of coarse the 5007 failed too, so I trashed the 805, and the 905, 807 and 5007 sat on the basement shelf. Years later Onkyo decided one time only to repair these units, but guess which model was left out? The 905 which I found to sound the best for Audio out of all of them. I sent in the 807 and 5007. The 807 is still sitting on the shelf since getting it back and I put the 5007 in my basement and it was still acting wonky when I got it back, but Onkyo refused to fix. None of the input buttons respond correctly and when you try to power down it will either turn zones 2 and 3 on or put it in pure power mode. after about 10 pushes it might finally turn off, but not before clearing all of your settings as if you did a factory reset. I would love to get the 905 back up and running and the 5007 working properly, but no one will tough them. :(
@12voltvids
@12voltvids 5 жыл бұрын
I am currently using a 605 which was given to me last year. When my RC370 started acting up again after 3 years (after the light bulb fix) I put in the older 605 and use it just for TV sound. It doesn't work properly with analog inputs, as it won't convert them to HDMI like the 370 did so my VCR and Laserdisk is useless as they are remote mounted and not connected directly to the TV. In my setup all my equipment is in a separate closet, about 30 feet from the TV, so all switching needs to be done remotely. Since I still have analog sources, getting a new modern receiver that only has HDMI is not an option. I have resorted to plugging my VCR and Laserdisk player into an MTS stereo modulator and sending the video and audio over RF to the TV, and then the sound back to the receiver. Not an ideal setup, but at least it allows me to view VHS, Beta and Laserdisk analog sources. I don't use these much these days anyway.
@lxxfxx
@lxxfxx 2 жыл бұрын
This video helped me to identify the issue with my Onkyo TX-NL509 years later. Will try to find the parts and otherwise... Well so long Onkyo, I guess. Thanks OP!
@int53185
@int53185 5 жыл бұрын
I glued a heatsink on mine 4 years ago and it is still working.
@saqibsami7967
@saqibsami7967 5 жыл бұрын
Which compound did you use and size of heatsink?
@dom3827
@dom3827 5 жыл бұрын
@@saqibsami7967 i think any heatsink that is not too large will do the job.
@int53185
@int53185 5 жыл бұрын
@@saqibsami7967 Arctic Silver compound. The heat sink I salvaged from an old tv circuit board roughly the size of the chip.
@CT-te3kb
@CT-te3kb 5 жыл бұрын
@Stephen Morton Needs to be a non conductive thermal compound to adhere the heat sink
@MrTopsoil911
@MrTopsoil911 4 жыл бұрын
I used a mix of white toothpaste and dab vaseline. Working now 4yrs
@Travis141123
@Travis141123 4 жыл бұрын
Got one at the dump. You can bypass the HDMI board by (unit off) holding bd/dvd, press power and when display shows "hdmi :use" push power gain and it will toggle to "ignore", release bd/dvd. You just get basic audio inputs, no fancy AV. You'll have sound but no tone controls. Using Zone 2 you get tone controls.
@zandzak90
@zandzak90 3 жыл бұрын
Let me guess. This trick does not work on the HT-R558....?
@matthewg7835
@matthewg7835 2 жыл бұрын
Doesn’t work on HT-R590
@arturcoelho8889
@arturcoelho8889 2 жыл бұрын
Dude It worked just now! Amazing man!!! Onkyo should build a Statue in your name!!! Thank you very very much!! best regards
@dumbfishtanks
@dumbfishtanks 2 жыл бұрын
Also for those trying this and having no success, it'll only play sound in Direct mode, any other modes won't work
@intoflatlines
@intoflatlines 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this tip! Worked on my NR708. I just wanted the damn thing to power my speakers.
@johntranquilli2243
@johntranquilli2243 4 жыл бұрын
I was skeptical, but I’m not lying, this totally worked.. baked the crap out of it and now it works again!
@vortexor1
@vortexor1 4 жыл бұрын
Does it still work? Thanks and best regards
@johntranquilli2243
@johntranquilli2243 4 жыл бұрын
@@vortexor1 , yup, don't want to jinx it, but going on a few months now!
@petertaylor6369
@petertaylor6369 5 жыл бұрын
Great tip thanks for the information. I've just fixed my ailing Yamaha RX-V673 amplifier which also has the same chip, luckily I was directed here from the Yamaha forums.
@skullgame
@skullgame 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much! I've had an Onkyo receiver sitting in my extra room for several years waiting until I could justify costly repairs, and now I have a way to potentially isolate the issue without having to take it in to someone and get charged labor for troubleshooting. Can't wait to try your solution (and if I'm lucky get another 3 years out of the receiver).
@SolidSleds
@SolidSleds Жыл бұрын
If you haven't tried it, do it. I used my heat gun from a solder station and it fixed my Onkyo that had been setting dormant for a few years.
@petecfla
@petecfla 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for posting !! I have the same exact receiver with the same exact problem. Going on amazon to but a heat lamp to see if it will fix it. Cheaper than buying a new receiver. Great Post thank you !!
@oledebess
@oledebess Жыл бұрын
great video, used a heat gun with nozzle to heat the dsp chip for 1 ½ min. and now sound is working, also the Network actually also work it was not responding before repair. Have added a small heat sink on top of dsp to improve, but thank you very much.
@Darrell1981
@Darrell1981 5 жыл бұрын
Blew out a JVC 87 year model monster. Took 12 speakers and one to short contact to fry it. It came on but no sound. Thing was in use 26 years. Gave it to guy next door when I moved, he probably got it to work had a number of units in his backyard garage. My other JVC still strong after 12 years but using only the speakers that came with it out the box. Nice video.
@FrozenHaxor
@FrozenHaxor 5 жыл бұрын
Also from what I heard from fellow technicians, when Onkyo did the recall till october of 2018 where they fixed those for free, they used a board that dropped the DSP voltage rail from 3,3V down to 3V, most likely to lower the power that the chip needs to burn. Huge fail on behaf of Texas Instruments...
@pierreevensmeneide700
@pierreevensmeneide700 6 ай бұрын
It works for me. I used an heatgun at maximum power for a minute on the DSP chip on my Onkyo TX-SR313. Thank you for the tip.
@FlingwingNZ
@FlingwingNZ 4 ай бұрын
Do you think it is the chip that is at fault or just the solder joints? It would appear to me that reballing and refitting the chip would do the job...until the design fault of an expanding and contracting thermal environment caused the joints to fail again. Maybe a heatsink on the chip is needed??
@iblesbosuok
@iblesbosuok 5 жыл бұрын
That's why I hate BGA. Dust deposit, self desoldering etc etc Cheers from Indonesia
@MrChuckmason
@MrChuckmason 4 жыл бұрын
Great to find this after 2 different Onkyo receivers and 2k, I bought a Marantz.
@leelaughren6862
@leelaughren6862 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks your advice worked. Ran my heat gun over the chip for 35-45 seconds while shielding the four sides and connections are now made. Heard it click so new the switch was doing its job. Thanks again!!!!
@LennoxE
@LennoxE 2 жыл бұрын
Hey what wattage light bulb?? Just bought and open box and no sound from any speakers I hope this is the problem at this point.. sr494 model... I might be lucky for warranty coverage just crazy the store sent it back out if it was a return "open box" Thanks for this video
@royshaft
@royshaft 2 ай бұрын
I’m surprised that your chip couldn’t get hot enough from the heat output from my Onkyo !
@williamchow1624
@williamchow1624 5 жыл бұрын
Why care about the people who give you thumbs down, they are idiots. The goals is to diagnose the problem and fix it. Just because it is unconventional makes it better and creative.
@therealjammit
@therealjammit 5 жыл бұрын
If it's stupid and works, then it's not stupid.
@MichelLinschoten
@MichelLinschoten 5 жыл бұрын
Sure .....just hack away duct tape can patch tons of stuff ....doesn't fix it.
@ThatTransistorGuy
@ThatTransistorGuy 5 жыл бұрын
I gave a thumbs down simply because they said "onkyo garbage receiver" if it was a simple diagnose and repair, then why put that???
@jeffcotton526
@jeffcotton526 4 жыл бұрын
I gave a thumb down too because of his blanket statement about "Onkyo garbage receiver". The chip was/is garbage not the receiver. He continually makes generalizing statements about overall product quality in a lot of his videos. He should have clarified by stating: "junk Texas Instruments chip." Onkyo makes some excellent top-notch products, I used them for many years. ALL BRANDS at one time or another suffer from poor or bad component quality, whether it's Marantz, Acoustic Research... whatever.
@mcramp20
@mcramp20 5 жыл бұрын
You helped a lot with my 709 before I paid Onkyo to fix mine I found that if you put the audio settings to DIRECT you can get the amp to come on in stereo.
@12voltvids
@12voltvids 5 жыл бұрын
Not mine. When it failed it was dead even in direct mode.
@spikester
@spikester 5 жыл бұрын
@@12voltvids I think the dead chip stops the protection relays from closing, so the audio is gone until that happens even in direct mode. I had an SR-707 repaired by Onkyo for free a couple years back that I bought in 2010, it worked fine since before selling it.
@BeefyMon
@BeefyMon 5 жыл бұрын
My TX-RZ800 died a similar death (I will try this fix shortly), but the analog and toslink inputs still work perfectly (assuming the unit isn’t set in a mode that require the dsp chip to process the sound). Dolby 5.1 works fine, as does All-channel stereo, and so on. I ran my blu-Ray player’s HDMI directly to the TV, and used an optical cable to feed sound to the Onkyo. I lost the higher resolution audio and Atmos support, plus the ability to switch video sources... oh, and the onscreen menu... BUT, it got me by until I picked up a newer model at a decent price. Incidentally, I wasn’t aware of the RZ800 being prone to this issue, but it happened twice (the first time under warranty, the second time, not).
@DrDroogkloot
@DrDroogkloot 5 жыл бұрын
I have multiple onkyo’s now. A 508 fixed the output stage. Still working great. Fixed a 313, faulty standby relais. Sold it. Now using a 607 as main home audio unit. Had no display. Fixed it. Great unit. Other units. 706 hdmi board total failure 414 working but no video. Another 313, hdmi chip fried recently. 578 also kind of fixed. Still working on it. Next to the hdmi board chips running very hot. Also the amp itself runs very hot. This is also a reason to get the unit as cool as possible. Btw dave... get a hot air station.
@brony4life1982
@brony4life1982 5 жыл бұрын
I might jinx it, but I gave a friend of mine my folks old 1999 Onkyo reciever and it's still kickin, and I have a used Onkyo reciever that's going strong. I hope I don't ever have this issue. Love your videos
@SoHood414
@SoHood414 2 ай бұрын
I have a Onkyo tx-nr555 I get sound am/fm radio, Bluetooth , but I get no sound when I hook up my rca’s to my tv and I get no sound. Could it be the same chip causing it to not have rca to tv sound?
@FreePalestineforever657
@FreePalestineforever657 4 жыл бұрын
How many minutes did you bake?
@vernonbosshard9317
@vernonbosshard9317 10 ай бұрын
What is that thing in the clear box and what lamp are you using? What wattage?
@Zly-Porucznik
@Zly-Porucznik 2 ай бұрын
Hi my onkyo receiver started to have a delay issue with sound kicking after about 30 seconds or more when the receiver and my tv is on. And is dependent how long the receiver stayed off. Do you think it could be related to that chip? Thanks
@paulwood2329
@paulwood2329 Жыл бұрын
I have an Onkyo TX RZ800. Love this amp it's got grait sound. But the sound keeps randomly going off just for a second before coming back on again. Any ideas?
@achimlaurentiu6905
@achimlaurentiu6905 Жыл бұрын
I have an Onkyo tx sr506 amplifier that had a defect in the rear left channel. I repaired the defect but I did not find in the service book the table with the voltage values ​​on the measurement terminals for adjusting the idle current. Do you know the corresponding voltage values ​​for all channels for do current readjustment for all channels?
@tedjones112
@tedjones112 5 жыл бұрын
Is there much difference between cheap AV receivers ? Pioneer vs Yamaha vs Denon vs Onkyo vs. ? Any one any Better quality than the others.?
@johnq.public3302
@johnq.public3302 2 жыл бұрын
The moment where a $40 paperweight you shouldn't have bought from goodwill starts working! HOLY CRUD! Bought an HT-180 and discovered it had this exact problem. Grabbed a bulb just like you had and applied it to the chip for about 5 mins and BAM! The dumb thing works! Unreal. Great video!
@stb3265
@stb3265 2 жыл бұрын
Lol. Me too. I got a 708 for $10 at a thrift store. I used a butane lighter to heat the chip to 380F (very carefully and using a temp gun to keep an eye on the temps). Works perfectly. If I get 3y out of it, I will be happy. If not, it was $10.
@giuseppemarchese6969
@giuseppemarchese6969 5 ай бұрын
hi, I tried everything to reproduce Dolby 5.1 on my Onkyo TXSR494, nothing to do, I can reproduce DTS and DTS-HDMA perfectly but I can't hear anything in Dolby 5.1 or Dolby Atmos. Could it be this chip's fault or should both formats have problems? thanks good work
@skycarl
@skycarl 5 жыл бұрын
When I first saw the title,,, I thought it said, " trouble over Tokyo " and I thought, what the heck is Dave doing now lol. Then I read it again and realized I need to clean my glasses. ;p)
@kindanyume
@kindanyume 5 жыл бұрын
snds like u r taking lessons from my mom when her glasses were on her head but she was scouring the house trying to find them...
@arthurdanielles4784
@arthurdanielles4784 4 жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣
@arthurdanielles4784
@arthurdanielles4784 4 жыл бұрын
@@kindanyume 🤣🤣🤣
@kindanyume
@kindanyume 4 жыл бұрын
the funniest part is my wife just pulled the same move last night.... lmao
@eiconteudodigital
@eiconteudodigital Жыл бұрын
Good afternoon! My receiver, ONKYO TX-SR 875, has hiss, pops, hums, etc. for a long time. I never got it resolved. They told me that it could be this DSP CHIP, but I removed the HDMI card, where the CHIP is located and turned the device back on without the card. To my surprise the device worked normally, of course without HDMI. Do you have any idea where the problem could be, since in HDMI it is not. ?? Thanks in advance.
@schlomoshekelstein908
@schlomoshekelstein908 2 жыл бұрын
I have a 609 with no sound when i jack inputs in from the REAR, none of them have sound. but if I use the auxilliary input on the front of the receiver i get sound. still a bad DSP chip or something else?
@sonotdown998
@sonotdown998 5 жыл бұрын
My Onkyo gets so effing hot you’d think it would fix itself.
@dom3827
@dom3827 5 жыл бұрын
im glad i do not need an AV Reciever. I have a simple vintage AMP which barely gets near hand warm on the heatsink itself when i listen loud.
@kevinxero
@kevinxero 5 жыл бұрын
@@thefreestylefrEaK you could take a CPU fan and run it USB powered. Lower profile ones could easily sit right on top
@erik61801
@erik61801 5 жыл бұрын
check your speaker impedance and the sum of all of them. i run car audio speakers for surround..my unit gets pretty toasty because of that.
@cjlhessing
@cjlhessing 5 жыл бұрын
True! I upgraded to another brand and have noticed how little heat it puts out compares the the Onkyo. They’re like mini ovens!
@goodun6081
@goodun6081 5 жыл бұрын
@@erik61801 , most audio-video receivers need a minimum of 8 ohms load on each and all channels. Many customers are unaware of this and will run 4 ohm speakers, or parallel speakers on the main channels, or run the A&B speakers simultaneously, or use the receiver to run speakers outdoors or throughout the house. These units were just not designed for that kind of Duty!
@lerrynhawke3375
@lerrynhawke3375 2 жыл бұрын
OMG!! It worked!!! I don't know how long for but it actually works!!!! This is the best life hack I've ever come cross.. thanks very much
@12voltvids
@12voltvids 2 жыл бұрын
Mine lasted 2 years before becoming problematic again.
@swcrites
@swcrites 5 жыл бұрын
thats a creative and pretty cool troubleshooting trick. i love it! thanks for all your videos, you have taught me a lot about electronics over the last several years
@onderol
@onderol 5 жыл бұрын
thank you for great video. how many watt of this lamp?
@Luortizsolorzano
@Luortizsolorzano Жыл бұрын
Where can I buy one of those chips to replace the original one that comes with the amp? since nothing appears on ebay.
@Fit2beTied
@Fit2beTied 3 жыл бұрын
I have a TX-NR626 and after turning it off, then back on there is no sound for several minutes. That sounds like the problem you describe in your video, I would like the receiver for what it does and can do. And I'd like to have repaired, which is beyond my knowledge. Can you tell me if the repair is worth the cost and where I can have it repaired?
@slliks67
@slliks67 Жыл бұрын
Could you guide me in buying and fixing a power button on an Onkyo tx-7000
@mastif76
@mastif76 10 ай бұрын
Took my broken Onkyo from basement just to check if I can’t fix it on this way and guess what…..it worked 💪💪. thx a lot
@boyceburns1823
@boyceburns1823 3 жыл бұрын
I've worked on this same problem and it is as you say, it is across the board but I don't think changing the DSP chip is going to solve anything. The problem is the extreme amount of technology compressed into that little chip. The chip is like a CPU in a computer, it needs a heatsink attached to it but the problem I've noticed is there is no mounting holes to hold the heatsink to the board, at least on some of the boards. (like the one you are showing us in the video) I've spent a lot of time and work on this problem and I do have proto-type solution in the works. Some of the boards have a thru hole on each corner of the DSP chip and with these holes I've attached a heatsink with a custom made mount to displace the heat generated by the DSP chip. Only time will tell at this point if it works. (fingers crossed)
@craigkovatch7564
@craigkovatch7564 2 жыл бұрын
I have an TX-NR609 with an already warranty-replaced DSP chip. I recently lost my sound, but I still get the speaker indicators on the front of the unit. Do you think it's still worth trying to reflow the DSP?
@Reczack
@Reczack 3 жыл бұрын
I'd like to emphasize how temporary this issue is. This worked on my TX-NR717 in early 2020, but the relay stopped working again last night and the same procedure with the same heat gun did not fix it. Any advice on how to proceed?
@hxhdfjifzirstc894
@hxhdfjifzirstc894 2 жыл бұрын
Re-ball the chip. I suggest you take the board somewhere (if you can get the board out) and tell them which chip you want re-balled. If you can't find a place that repairs general electronics, a cell phone repair shop should be able to re-ball it for you. You could do it yourself, but it's something that has to be done just right. So you'd want to do a lot of research, buy the right tools and supplies, and practice on junk before you do it for real.
@juanpablocardonaochoa8580
@juanpablocardonaochoa8580 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video. A coaxial tv box connected to a hdmi in killed my hdmi board because a lightning. Do you know how to check it and fix it?. Thanks in advance.
@artprince9163
@artprince9163 2 жыл бұрын
What is a good 2 channel stereo with phono input in 2023? Is the Sony str dh190 better than the Onkyo tx 8220?
@jdretiree2433
@jdretiree2433 5 жыл бұрын
I have an Onkyo TX4500 that has some issues other than what this video is about. However I was wondering if you know if my receiver is affected by this chip in case I ever have this problem.
@PileOfEmptyTapes
@PileOfEmptyTapes 5 жыл бұрын
The trusty TX-4500 is a thoroughly vintage unit dating from the late '70s. DSP chips weren't even a thing until the early '90s or so, and the units with this particular problem date from ca. 2007...2011. You might as well be asking whether your '69 Mustang is affected by EGR valve problems, or inquire about backlight failures on your CRT TV.
@jdretiree2433
@jdretiree2433 5 жыл бұрын
@@PileOfEmptyTapes good to hear......thanks
@marcsteiner5196
@marcsteiner5196 3 жыл бұрын
Will this also be able to fix a „no video“ issue? My TX NR 3030 lost all Monitor Outs (Main-Sub-Zone2) over the past weeks. Sound still OK. Onkyo replaced the Board already 2y ago, when only the Sub Monitor Out was without function that time.
@Jackalbeez
@Jackalbeez 5 жыл бұрын
I have an Onkyo HT-RC430 that has a sound issue, but I am not sure if it is the DSP chip or something else. Could use some advise on what to check. I hear two relays click. One when I first power on the receiver and a couple seconds after another relay clicks. Sometimes I do get a bit of sound after the second relay clicks, but not always and when I do get some sound, is not clear and is crackly. If I try to increase the volume the sound will just cut out and will not come back. I have to turn the power off and back on, but the sound does not always come back. I may have to do this a couple times before the sound returns, but it is always crackly. Possibly something overheating????
@erikpnoman
@erikpnoman 9 ай бұрын
Thank you so much for the information. I fixed my TX-NR616 using a heat gun. It ran for six more months. Stopped working again. Next receiver, Denon. See ya, Onkyo!
@jrizzo0425
@jrizzo0425 Жыл бұрын
I have an Onkyo that is only 3 months old and it has no sound and no speaker display comes up on the front so I guess this is the problem. I am not tech savvy so is there no fix if you are not capable of taking the thing apart and messing with the insides?
@CaillouLP
@CaillouLP 5 жыл бұрын
Sad to see that these newer Onkyo receivers are apparently not reliable. They used to be a pretty big player when it comes to stereo amps. I have a A-9155 that I have not turned off in over 5 years and it still works fine.
@andrewstambaugh240
@andrewstambaugh240 Жыл бұрын
It was a common fault of the era, drive by government regulation forcing too rapid a transition to under-tested new solder. A whole bunch of computer parts had the same problem. Laptop gpu's were notorious due to running hot and exposing the flaw in as little as _1or2 years!_ imagine buying a new laptop and bluescreening with HW failure in less than 2 years. Also, note that the fault use in a TI chip, not onkyo. Several other companies had similar problems, but onkyo had more *because they put the best of the best new chips available in even their cheaper units.* Most other companies were cheaping out on features in sub-$800 units, so most of those weren't affected. Things like dolby only or dts only models vs onkyo with both and vertical sound and auto tuning mic and more hdmi inputs and... It's sad the heaps of laptops and other electronic went to the landfill so the gov could put on the image of "saving the environment."
@TrevorRchannel
@TrevorRchannel 5 жыл бұрын
I have a Onkyo NR616 and an NR818 and they both went back to Onkyo for warranty repair for exactly the same fault! Great video, nice to know what caused the failures, now that my amps are repaired I have a 5V fan sitting above the rear of the amp (powered from the rear USB) to help stop it overheating again.
@aksolartechnologieskriskan6668
@aksolartechnologieskriskan6668 3 жыл бұрын
I have the nr616 with no video output
@jahmezis45
@jahmezis45 Жыл бұрын
My onkyo shows speakers connected Bluetooth connected but no sound could this chip be the issue? I think there may have been some slight water damage.
@AK-xu5sj
@AK-xu5sj 2 жыл бұрын
I have an Onkyo M-504 that has a long lag before the servo relay clicks on. Any thoughts? Once it clicks on it runs fine.
@nicholasbrown8384
@nicholasbrown8384 5 жыл бұрын
I would avoid using the heat gun due to the high risk of damaging the DSP and receiver because heat guns don't have the reliable temperature regulation that hot air rework stations do. Hot air rework stations will let you set the right temperature and come with smaller nozzles so you can direct the hot air exactly where you need it instead of cooking neighbouring parts
@amihaikopel613
@amihaikopel613 5 жыл бұрын
What is the right temperature? What is the right duration time for the heat? I have a reflow station at work. I think I have the same problem, when I start up the receiver there is no sound. Then, I wait for ~15 minutes so the chips will get hot. Then I power off and on and the sound is back (till next time).
@animarkzero
@animarkzero 3 жыл бұрын
@@amihaikopel613 The temperature you set depends on your rework station its between 350-400°C When you Re-flow watch the chip closely ! A microscope or a good magnifying glass is a must. The chip moves very slightly when the solder melts. Then you tap it very very gently to confirm that the solder is liquid. Stop heating immediately! If you tap it too much its game over unless you can Re-ball and have the right Re-balling grid!
@martinvanderkaay2902
@martinvanderkaay2902 3 жыл бұрын
Gidday Dave, I have a Onkyo TX-SR507 Receiver, that just stopped powering up about 12 months ago, ( I turn it on, and a few seconds later, it clicks off! ) Again, apparently a known fault, in the transformer or something; there was a recall and full replacement available up until around 24mth ago!? Apparently rather than a fix, repair shop said just buy another....I'm reluctant...any bright ideas please?
@goatweedwillie5349
@goatweedwillie5349 3 жыл бұрын
I had my chip replace many years back but its at not sound again. Think its a different issue now, all my speakers show up on the display but still not sound.
@JERELSALSERO
@JERELSALSERO 2 жыл бұрын
and what this dts will not react after heating, so the chip is made defect by you with this heating procedure?
@mikolhan1
@mikolhan1 2 жыл бұрын
Hey @12voltsvids! You said your own Onkyo started to act up and then after a while stopped working completely. Was that „acting up” an occasional no sound on one channel perhaps? Have one that does that and starting to gather potential diagnoses to cross-check. Great video BTW! :)
@christianbergeron1407
@christianbergeron1407 2 жыл бұрын
Had same issue, did not believed it would work. Initially it did not, but after that I took the board off, so I can flip it, and did the light thing on the underside over the soldering and VOILA, it is now working! I will put a heat sink on that chip to hopefully have it last longer (I read that the sticker that come with cheap heat sink is not transferring heat correctly, so I will use thermal paste) Thanks for the info.
@NFSgamingEvo
@NFSgamingEvo Жыл бұрын
My onkyo rz900 sometimes center and front channels doesn't work ,if I hit with my hand on the sides, it works. ,could be the chip?
@rickc2222
@rickc2222 3 жыл бұрын
I have a onkyo HT-R580 from 2010 - with rca inputs (analog) in aux port - i can get sound if i change mode to "stereo - all speakers" but not in normal stereo mode...does that sound likely to be dsp issue? i hear relay click when i put in stereo-all speakers mode...
@Outamyhead
@Outamyhead 8 ай бұрын
I just got an Onkyo TX-NR609 that looked almost unused, but same issue as this. Would placing a heatsink on the chip help with drawing away the heat and increasing the lifespan of it's use?
@12voltvids
@12voltvids 8 ай бұрын
Didn't help mine
@Evermoregreen23451
@Evermoregreen23451 3 жыл бұрын
That’s magic. I didn’t know that you could fix chips with a light bulb. I know that you can fix soldering issues with a bulb or applying heat but not fixing broken chips. Amazing. Thanks for the insight.
@12voltvids
@12voltvids 3 жыл бұрын
The fault is bad solder under the chip.
@lightshine6044
@lightshine6044 Жыл бұрын
Do you have a video that shows how to build that halogen lamp? If i have to use heat gun what is temperature in Celsius i should set it to?Thanks
@12voltvids
@12voltvids Жыл бұрын
It was an old fixture i had taken down.
@1090835tgfe45resxcvb
@1090835tgfe45resxcvb 3 жыл бұрын
I have a Tx-SR313 Av receiver, It has a really long delay when initially turning it on. Can take up to 15 - 20 min before it finally comes on, once it is on no problems works great, Is this a symptom of the dsp failure ?
@toddnunley8591
@toddnunley8591 5 жыл бұрын
Wow, just purchased a Onkyo TX-NR575 for Christmas last years. Had no idea they had these kind of failures. I was in the electronic service business myself started in the mid 80s but by the mid 90s I gave it up. Hard to make money since consumer electronics was getting so cheap. The cost of doing service kept going up, the return kept going down. Also I got was pretty tired of working my arse off only to make the shop owners rich. Got into office equipment after that and did pretty well.
@martinm9979
@martinm9979 2 жыл бұрын
onkyo did a recall few years back due to this issue . many ppl bitched about no sound video issue so onkyo caved in and did the recall. had my ht rc270 fixed for free. gowever all electronics mwde these days made like crap. cost 150$ these days in canada for diagnosis.
@mw5905
@mw5905 5 жыл бұрын
I have a TX-SV727 from 1996 sitting here that's been horribly abused over the years and is still crankin'... However, I also have an HT-R520 that has much better surround sound abilities and what not. he 520 started randomly emitting loud ass pops and cracks from the speakers one day. Sometimes I can switch surround modes and it'll go away. That got worse and worse until it now has no sound at all... Could this chip be the cause as well?
@markusk.7621
@markusk.7621 3 жыл бұрын
You are my hero! Did this yesterday on my Onkyo TX-8050 and it works again! The only problem was to get a 50watts halogen-bulb because (in Germany) it‘s not allowed to sell it anymore regarding energy efficiency, so there are only led- lights left. But at least I found one in the internet. Really fantastic! I will now just put a heatsink on the chip and maybe install a little cooling fan to prevent the chip getting too hot in the future. Thank you!!
@0rigpumu
@0rigpumu 3 жыл бұрын
How long do you have the 50w halogen lamp switched on to heat the chip?
@markusk.7621
@markusk.7621 3 жыл бұрын
I had it burning for 7 minutes and then took it off so that the chip was able to cool down.
@markusk.7621
@markusk.7621 3 жыл бұрын
7 Minuten, dann runternehmen. Ich hatte zur Sicherheit eine Alufolie über die Platine gelegt, in die ich ein Loch gemacht habe, sodass nur der Chip mit der Lampe in Berührung kam.
@0rigpumu
@0rigpumu 3 жыл бұрын
@@markusk.7621 Ich werde das mit meinem Pioneer sc lx86 auch probieren. Der hat genau die gleichen Symptome und ich hoffe sehr, dass es klappt. Anschließend kommt ein Kühlkörper auf den Chip. Pioneer kann keine Ersatzteile mehr liefern. Also Platine austauschen klappt nicht.
@markusk.7621
@markusk.7621 3 жыл бұрын
Wünsche Dir dass es klappt! Für mein Modell gibt es auch keine Ersatzteile mehr. Ich hab bei mir auch einen kleinen Raspberry- Kühler draufgemacht und dann zusätzlich noch einen 80mm Noctua- Lüfter mit low-noise Adapter eingebaut, der die Luft von dort weg aus dem Gehäuse zieht.
@calvinpoppen665
@calvinpoppen665 2 жыл бұрын
Started having issues with my HT-390 and then the sound stopped...No other video I found did anything to help.....this worked...Used a 1500W heat gun for about 3 minutes...let it cool for a minute and viola, I had HDMI ARC sound again....Thanks for the post...
@inconspicuous-nobody
@inconspicuous-nobody 2 жыл бұрын
Can I ask how long yours survived after the fix? :)
@calvinpoppen665
@calvinpoppen665 2 жыл бұрын
@@inconspicuous-nobody it lasts about 3-4 months...I had to recently use the heat gun again...Kind of a pain, but cheaper than buying a new receiver.
@inconspicuous-nobody
@inconspicuous-nobody 2 жыл бұрын
@@calvinpoppen665 Much appreciated!
@Sanamppa1
@Sanamppa1 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you! It worked for me 🤘 I used hair dryer for couple of minutes.
@mithunmitra1
@mithunmitra1 Жыл бұрын
Loved your video, i have a similar situation at my end with my Onkyo, the only difference is that the sound cuts on and off inadvertently. Would that also be due to the bad chip?
@12voltvids
@12voltvids Жыл бұрын
Could be.
@mithunmitra1
@mithunmitra1 Жыл бұрын
​@@12voltvidsthanks for the quick reply, i think I'll try to do the same thing you did
@markgooch7
@markgooch7 4 жыл бұрын
I have a Onkyo TX-NR 636 and have lost sound to front right and both rear speakers....I have put a meter on the outputs and ....nothing....same problem ????? Any ideas please...
@anastaciorp7100
@anastaciorp7100 5 жыл бұрын
Hello 12v' i own a TX NR-807, is this temp fix will work for "no video" from hdmi? Sound is ok feom hdmi and rca's works fine also. Thanks
@hanszecevic9128
@hanszecevic9128 2 жыл бұрын
What is the wattage or temperature required to apply to the chip surface
@patricko6833
@patricko6833 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve got the same issue with my Onkyo HT R 570. I’m willing to try this. I have a heat gun I used to use for model airplane covering. I’d rather try the light like your using. Where can I get one and what bulb is it ?
@12voltvids
@12voltvids 2 жыл бұрын
It's just a 50 watt halogen gu10 bulb
@patricko6833
@patricko6833 2 жыл бұрын
@@12voltvids where do you get the fixture to hold and run it ?
@12voltvids
@12voltvids 2 жыл бұрын
@@patricko6833 that was an old fixture from my kitchen.
@patricko6833
@patricko6833 2 жыл бұрын
@@12voltvids Ok, thanks for the info and updates
@Cloud13.
@Cloud13. 4 жыл бұрын
The ht-r358 (ht-s3505), year 2012 has this problem?
@doublejay74
@doublejay74 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you kind sir. I used a heat gun instead and it literally worked in seconds. Saved me money. I was about to go out and buy a sound bar. Subscribed!!!
@12voltvids
@12voltvids 4 жыл бұрын
I didn't have a heat gun handy. My amp is acting up again, will work on it again some day.
@vortexor1
@vortexor1 4 жыл бұрын
Does it still work? Thanks and best regards
@doublejay74
@doublejay74 4 жыл бұрын
Quick update: My receiver doesn’t initially work on start up so I apply the heat gun for a few seconds and it works. About a minute later, it’ll give out again and then I reheat it again and it stays on for the rest of the time I’m using it. The only downside is the heat gun is literally resting next to the receiver should it give out. I’m just waiting for the day it completely craps out. A new receiver would cost me around $400.00 from what I’ve seen on Amazon. Not bad but I’d rather not go there. Times are tough.
@gryanm
@gryanm 4 жыл бұрын
That's what I was gonna do...but my receiver is only missing one channel out so far. What temp should I use for a heat gun, and for how long?
@hugocarmo77carmo81
@hugocarmo77carmo81 4 жыл бұрын
Hi! I have an old but loved Technics SC-CH700 system. My amplifier module SU-CH700 was cutting off, I saw in some foruns that soldering a 10nf ceramic capacitor on the pcb pins of the fan socket would do the trick. I did that, and when I turned on the amplifier, I noticed that the fan started working imedietally, before not... Then no sound from the speakers or the headphones, so I took off the capacitor, tried it again, still no sound... Fan always on... I think I did something wrong, all the other components of the system (tuner, cd player, equalizer) all have power, even the equalizer bars are working with the tuner input or cd, but no sound... Oh... Another thing, the amplifier has two relays, When it power on, only one "clicks"... Can You help me? Thank You. P.S. - I have the service manual...
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