Troy-Bilt Walk Behind Mower Transmission Fix - Not Belt or Cable!

[@JesusOrtiz-ok2mx]

I fix my transmission by following your tutorial. When I opened the transmission, there were the 3 parts of the pin! It took me a little over 2 hours. I put a nail and it is working great. Thank you so much, you saved me money by not having to buy a new one!

[@gradyhernandez4699]

Thats what i was thinking .put a nail in place of the.factory pin

[@hellboundTX333]

Thanks for this. Just did this repair on my mower yesterday. Only took a couple hours and I only had to remove the bottom case of the transmission once it was off the mower. Saved me some cash!

[@baxrok2.]

That's great news. Congrats!

[@jeffrubinlcswc]

Incredibly clear explanation, saved a lot of money and trouble by watching this truly excellent video. Thank you!

[@Rbenterprises4]

Thank you for the video. My wheels were frozen up with dirt and rust. The cables were shot, too! I attempted to remove the bottom cover of the transmission, but saw that the shaft was turning when I turned the pulley, so I put the screws back in the cover and looked farther to the wheels. I did have a devil of a time removing the right gear behind the wheel. I stripped the T30 screw head. I finally welded a T30 tip to the screw head and was able to remove the screw. I replaced it with a 1/4 x20 Phillips screw. Great explanation of the inner workings of the transmission. Thanks again!

[@Rbenterprises4]

Follow up on my front wheel drive problems: after cleaning up the axle shaft and outer gears and wheels, now the wheels will slowly turn, but will stop once the wheels contact the ground. The pulley and axle shaft are spinning, but the wheels will not pull the motor. I suspect the inside of the transmission is bad. I may try to mess with it, but I may just use it as a push mower now that the wheels turn freely. Do you have a source part number for the transmission if I choose to replace it? Thanks!

[@JesusOrtiz-ok2mx]

Excellent video! I was thinking of getting rid of my mower, but now I am going to fix it!! I will let you know how it turns out!

[@nuttyaboutguns]

Most excellent, detailed video. THANK YOU!!!

[@marcusnelson7810]

Man U saved my butt seriously I’ve used this mower like a pro, literally doing 5 big yards a month n a bigger cemetery not to mention I’ve used it like a brush hog, can’t beat it with the Honda motor but short of this issue I’ve got slick front wheels in under two years but man it’s a solider mower for certain! I was at a loss as to what was a miss til I saw this TY!!! 1k fold over!!!

[@pensionat60]

Great video! I have a Canadian Tire yardworks mower. The Briggs & Stratton motor is a beast but the rest is all from China! The transmission went on it but was under warranty. Going forward if it breaks again I’ll have the confidence to fix it myself. Thanks for your very informative video.

[@jonmyers8046]

Good show! I was able to reach in with a pair of box end wrenches and unbolt the end pieces from the deck without removing the wheels. Just have to carefully pry it apart, but no big effort. Thanks for the specs on that pin. I wonder how many hundreds of dollars people have spent on replacing these things over a stupid low grade pin that fails. 😡 Thanks for sharing. 👍🙂

[@everettkirk8368]

ive looked all over net for an axle the same axle as mine mtd 50/53 ,your box is identical,now i can fix mine properly as the 3 washers are in the wrong place i put them back wrong,looking at yours ,great vid ,had 2 days messing with mine so far,now to be stripped again,,,,cheers,ev

[@dgcushma]

Excellent video. Thank you so much

It would probably be a good idea to heat the drill bit you used with a torch to take the heat tempering out of it to make it tougher to break before you installed it.

[@kaylamarie8309]

Great vid..probably be doing this repair very soon on my Troy-bilt self propelled. My "tractor ain't got no traction" as the old saying goes even though its a walk behind push mower lol.

[@nuttyaboutguns]

Just cracked open my transmission. Pin intact. The retaining spring was broken!!!! Of course, the transmission is obsolete, and no parts available. Off to Ace Hardware to see if I can find a compression spring!!!

[@russellbantin8468]

I used a roller pin to replace it... works great ;) and fits perfect. Bought a set of them from Harbor Freight and one of them fits just right

[@baxrok2.]

Excellent! Congrats.

[@caseyclark2519]

Absolutely genius! My pin broke into three pieces just like yours and I replaced it with a hardened nail. We will see how long it holds.

[@baxrok2.]

Probably last forever! Good job.

[@caseyclark2519]

I hope so! I was fully prepared to go buy a new mower, but now my patchwork lawnmower lives again. It seems like every spring something else breaks.

[@wyattoneable]

Did you miss us? :) Nice to see you post again. You explained the details of the procedure very well so if anyone needs this information they have no need to search elsewhere.

[@baxrok2.]

Thanks! I've been around Dave, just lots of distractions lately. Kids!!!

[@bengunn3698]

Handy little tip ,thank you for passing your experience on. [ from Australia]

[@jeffjames4064]

Thanks for the video. I've been looking high and low for some time for your explanations. It seems the pros are shy about revealing their dark magic.

[@baxrok2.]

Glad it helped.

[@mikegalvin4655]

Hi Sir nice work van u help me with mine where are the washer are located o install the sliding pine inside the 2 washer but there is a little pin do the pin go inside the track or outside thank u

[@marvinjohnson424]

My problem was just a gob of sealant in gear, but what I need to know is how much ( ounces ) of gear go back in transmission? Thanks

[@johnparker9162]

Thanks for an excellent video. Clear and to the point.

[@jimbluma2558]

Great video and very helpful but is the pin 3mm(.118") or is it 1/8" (.125") diameter because those would be common dowel pin sizes and readily available in the length you show. If you install a 3mm pin in a 1/8" hole the shaft hole will rapidly deform and that will cause the pin to fail again soon.

[@carolning5114]

Excellent video! My troy bilt self propelled pushing mower (TB320 21" , 2013) transmission was failed due to a severely worn helical gear. Don't know where this gear is available and couldn't find the part number either.

[@EXOVCDS]

Interesting that it broke into 3 equal sized pieces. Try to keep the burnouts to a minimum... the pin will last longer! =)

[@gradyhernandez4699]

Do a video on a Murray 626 selr propelled .the trans not engaging when front wheels are on ground

[@brianhuffman1090]

What did you use as a gasket material? Thanks for the helpful video!

[@baxrok2.]

I used some Permatex Ultra Grey Silicone Gasket Maker. I had it lying around so that's what i used. Anything you have lying around will probably work just fine.

[@tunahead7275]

Beautifully done video sir, thanks for posting! I know you don't have this particular mower any more, but it wasn't totally clear to me, what was the original symptom that led you to tear into the transmission in the first place? By the way, McMaster-Carr carries various grades and lengths of stainless steel stock and dowel pins that might work for replacing the old pin. Thanks again!

[@baxrok2.]

Thanks. Orignal symptom was no forward motion when squeezing the drive handle. Everything else was working but the wheels didn't move.

[@tunahead7275]

@@baxrok2. Thank you!

[@baxrok2.]

Update: Four years later, still going strong!

[@F34RMw3Pro]

I could use you help if you get a minute to reply

[@baxrok2.]

@@F34RMw3Pro What is the problem you're having?

[@F34RMw3Pro]

It actually has some to do with the 2.0l Ford engine timing I comment on the video But I haven't received a reply yet I was hoping to get some contact info so I can maybe ask you questions over the phone as it probly would be Easier To ask and understand the questions I have

[@F34RMw3Pro]

I would greatly appreciate

[@F34RMw3Pro]

Basically I did my timing cover gasket all the way around and my oil Pan gasket when I put it back together I reset the timing and when I reset the timing once I got it all put back together and started the car it was puffing out the exhaust Almost like it was loabing and I had an accelerated tick under the valve cover

[@christipton164]

Great video! I am trying to repair the connection between the drive cable on the 220 and the transmission. The spring is broken and the video does cover how the full transmission connects to the drive cable. Would love to see a view of how everything connects. I cannot find a view. Thanks!

[@baxrok2.]

Chris, I'm very sorry but I no longer have the mower in my possession. It now belongs to my X wife! You can try an online image search for something like - how to replace a troy-bilt drive cable. Of course, you might do the same for a KZbin search. Sorry I couldn't be more help and good luck!

[@gradyhernandez4699]

I had a.pt cruiser 2007 that the pin on the exhaust cam broke off which knocks.it.out.of time. Odays hardware.in pearland texas had the.pin i needed. Odays.pearland may have this pin on video too.

[@johnlong9494]

Awesome video! Requesting some advice. Checked Google a number of different ways and didn't quite find what I was looking for... With engine in or off, my Troy-Bilt Xp self-propelled pushnower squeaks substantially from the rear axle as you walk it around. I've serviced both wheels via lubing the gears, axle ends, and sleeves and detemined it was the trans from balancing the rear up on a block, spinning the wheels by hand, and hearing the noise come from the transmission. I hope to take the trans apart, identify why it squeaks, flush it and add new fluid. What kind and volume of oil is generally used? Is a permatex silicone gasket bead appropriate for sealing these up? Thank you!!!

[@baxrok2.]

I do not have access to a factory service manual. In my opinion, a gear oil around 90 weight or so will do. As for volume I'd say around 1 ounce or so. You can measure the amount that comes out and use that for your approximate amount to put back in. Yes, Permatex gasket sealant, the gray kind found in auto parts stores, should do just fine. Good luck!

[@DamsLifestyle]

Nice job

[@danturco5311]

Great video.. My pin broke exactly the same in three equal parts. Its almost like they score them so that they all break exactly like that. Then they can get people unwilling to fix it to replace the entire transmission. Anyway...what oil did you use? I already tossed mine as it was pretty grimy.

[@baxrok2.]

I used the old oil but I'd say just about any gear oil will do.

[@CHOWDRYFARMS]

nice video . thank you for sharing your knowledge .

[@baxrok2.]

Thanks. Glad it helped!

[@tomboyle7901]

Thank you for making this video

[@baxrok2.]

Glad it helped!

[@josephineofalltrades5613]

I have one of the gears inside my transmission that had a couple of chunks out of it as well as part of the pin missing. I will do the same as you for the pin, but cannot find the gear on line anywhere without having to buy the whole transmission. I have model#12A-466M011. Can you advise please? Thanks for an awesome video!

[@baxrok2.]

It's very difficult to find parts for lawn mowers for a number of reasons. If you are very handy and patient at searching the internet, with some work you might be able to find the part. If that doesn't work for you, then you can go to a local mower shop and try to find someone with enough patience and skill to help you. Finally, you might go online to a site like Craigslist and find a used mower that someone is selling or giving away and try to scavenge the parts from it. No matter which way you choose, unfortunately, I don't think it will be very easy.

[@robvanbuskirk270]

Great video, thank you. How is the drill bit pin holding up?

[@baxrok2.]

Still going strong and being abused regularly by a teenager!

[@dgcushma]

You can no longer get the transmission or any of the internal parts so if anything is wrong here you now own a non-self propelled lawn mower unless you can fix it yourself.

[@baxrok2.]

Yes, but with some effort you can repair what you have.

[@jackpoore3655]

I have a Troy Built B&S TB240 walk behind. Today the drive lever just went quickly limp. I took the assembly apart that is fixed on the handle. Nothing wrong there. But How in the world do I get the cowl off to see if the cable wire came off, came loose, broke or whatever. I have a feeling the way it snapped something came off under the plastic cowl. But how to get that darned plastic thing off. I can do without the drive although it's going to be hard for the time. 71 here I use it for a few small grades out front. Can you walk me through how to get the cowling off? Thanks so much.

[@baxrok2.]

Terribly sorry Jack, but I no longer have access to the mower. My x-wife now owns it!

[@r.d.8480]

Awesome video, what gear oil should i use ? Thank you

[@baxrok2.]

I used the oil that was in it. However any medium weight gear oil will do.

[@FerdinandFite]

Good information thanks

[@concrete981]

how much is a used one on ebay. or is highly unlikely to get the one that fits yours. or could be worn out. not worth all that work to me. guess your mower is worth fixing if it's only a few years old.

[@baxrok2.]

It's not always a matter of if it's worth it or not. Sometimes it's just fun to have a challenge! More importantly, there are some people who can't afford to or don't have the means to source and obtain a new/used one and this video will hopefully help them out.

[@eddie195777]

The Drive Gears on my lawn mower are attached with a screw and I can't unscrew them. The mower is 13 years old and the screws have never been removed and seem like they are welded on. Any tips on how to remove them. Thanks

[@baxrok2.]

Stuck screws are a science of their own. So, it's hard to give advice that works. Use the tool that fits the best, use a bit of penetrant, perhaps some gentle persuasion, etc,. You just have be careful of not breaking the head off of the bolt because that makes a hard job even harder.

[@eddie195777]

@@baxrok2. thank you

[@eddie195777]

@@baxrok2. The transmission axle keeps spinning when I try and remove the screw holding the gear. Is it acceptable to hold the axle with a pipe wrench. I tried using pliers but it keeps spinning. Thanks

[@baxrok2.]

@@eddie195777 Best to use a vice and some protection against damaging the axle. If you use a pipewrench, use care not to damage the axle too badly. Again, it's hard to give advice on things you can't see, but sounds like you're doing good.

[@eddie195777]

@@baxrok2. Thanks buddy. Happy Holidays

[@mohrclines1]

I am at almost the last step. Where does the tension spring go? It fell off during my breakdown and I didn’t see where it was hooked to

[@baxrok2.]

You can see it at the very beginning where I show the pin.

[@CB-ep8mf]

What material did you use In place of the gasket? Or did you just order a gasket?

[@baxrok2.]

I used an automotive gasket sealant that I had lying around. Nothing special and available at every car parts store.

[@oldoldpilgrim7898]

What did you use for sealant material?

[@baxrok2.]

Any automotive grade sealant will work. I used some valve cover sealant and it's held up fine.

[@amealnet2495]

Can the pin be replaced without removing transmission from the mower?

[@baxrok2.]

Although I didn't try repairing it without removing it, I do think you can do it while it's still on the mower. All you really need to do, if it is the pin that's broken, is to drop the bottom half of the case and replace the pin. As far as I can recall, all of the screws on the bottom of the case as well as the other parts, are still accessible when it's on the mower. It may be more challenging to do it that way but still you should be able to do it. If you try, let us know.

[@C000DY]

Is it possible to set the transmission vto constantly run , spinning the wheels, without the use of a drive cable.. Say u broke your drive cable. And where you place the drive cable, You can just set it to what the drive cable usually does when it is functioning properly..And when you crank it the wheels start spinning with the belt. If so. Would you know how to do that?

[@baxrok2.]

This could be done but would require some engineering. You'd have to find a way to keep the arm that the cable pulls back pulled back tightly all the time. Perhaps a very strong spring on the arm and then attach it to the body of the mower.

[@C000DY]

@@baxrok2. that's what I was trying to do. Basically the lever that attaches to the normal drive cable, But have it set wide open just like you have the drive cable set. But nothing wants to work properly.. I'd rather have it go wide open. Then buy another drive cable.

[@baxrok2.]

@@C000DY Alternatively, you could take a wire and hook it into the the lever, pull the lever back to engage the drive, and then make it just long enough to reach a bolt or something fixed on the body of the mower. Unlike a spring that could give a bit, the wire would be fixed and considerably stronger to hold the lever over and in place. Of course, you have to be sure before you start, that the drive system is working properly to begin with. The belt etc. On the down side, it is possible that with the drive engaged all the time that might make it very difficult to start the mower.

[@C000DY]

@@baxrok2. yea I'm gonna take the blade off tomorrow and get in there and take the cover off and see if the wheels start spinning when I engage the part. If it doesn't work. Then I'll wait for the cable. But if it works. At least I can cut the grass.. 😅

[@JesusOrtiz-ok2mx]

Did you put lubricant after the repair?

[@baxrok2.]

I used the original gear oil that was in the transmission. No other lubrication.

[@jameschamberlain5558]

Do you add more gear oil?..and what weight

[@baxrok2.]

I saved the original oil since I didn't have any new oil lying around. I'd say anything around a 90 weight would be fine. Maybe an ounce or two should do it. You could measure what's in it when you take it apart if you want to match the amount exactly.

[@brianfarthing5288]

Baxrok is there any chance you could reach out to me via email or something. Great video on the Mazda 3’s and my question does involve my 2004 Mazda 3 with the 2.3L Thanks.

[@gradyhernandez4699]

Text me how to do a murray selfpropelled

[@conniebennett6646]

I hate a diy video that does the stuff. Then freaking points and TELLS someone what to do. This is video not radio. 😂😂😂 I looked for a vid to show me how to remove these things. Although some of it is obvious I prefer a start to finish lesson. Ty for ur time.

[@marvinjohnson424]

Oil

[@baxrok2.]

I'm totally guessing but maybe an ounce or two.