Free Smoking Lawn Mower - Not an Engine Issue

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James Condon

James Condon

Күн бұрын

Lawn mower given away for free because the engine was smoking and issues with the drive system. Is the engine worn out?
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@newrhea13
@newrhea13 3 жыл бұрын
always refreshing seeing someone actually take some pride in what they do.
@jcondon1
@jcondon1 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@johncourtneidge
@johncourtneidge Жыл бұрын
Agreed!
@brianandrews7099
@brianandrews7099 3 жыл бұрын
Unlike modern cars, lawn power equipment still requires maintenance to keep them from failing before or during use. If you lack the skill and/or ability to service and repair your own equipment, your at an extreme disadvantage because your going to either be spending a lot of your money at the shop or constantly giving up on your equipment and buying new to replace it. Lucky for some of us who are glad to take your old machines off your hands and repair them for their own use or to resale. Good job with this Toro!
@deanyanko3326
@deanyanko3326 5 ай бұрын
I had a lawncare business Hire some with integrity one young man ran right over a stump and ripped the engine right off.
@rimmersbryggeri
@rimmersbryggeri 2 ай бұрын
Modern cars do to uless you want to "upgrade" every 5 years.
@lorenzowoodson624
@lorenzowoodson624 4 ай бұрын
I have a Toro mower similar to that one. I solved my problem by putting new rear wheels with the metal gears. They cost a few dollars more but well worth the price!
@Trilliumzen
@Trilliumzen Жыл бұрын
Gosh you’re a joy to watch-you’re knowledgeable, meticulous, and oh so clean!!
@petekovacevic3241
@petekovacevic3241 2 жыл бұрын
I love the Torro Personal pace system my 2000 mower is running great with just oil and filter changes. It smokes for a few seconds when cold but for 22 years not bad.
@matticus6339
@matticus6339 Жыл бұрын
I picked up one of these today but it has the 6.5 Tecumseh on it. People said didn't know what was wrong with it. Got it home and WAY overfilled with oil to the point there was so much oil in the cylinder it was almost hydrolocked. I drained out the excess oil, tipped it up and let oil drain out the plug hole, then fired on the first pull, doesn't even need the carb cleaned. Only thing it needs is a self propel cable then I can get it sold.
@timmininger1066
@timmininger1066 2 жыл бұрын
I have used and repaired my own Toros for about ten years. Yes the rear drive wheel gears are a common issue. There is a replacement for the plastic geared wheels with metal ones and it’s a good idea to replace the small gears too. The wheels with the metal gears last much longer.
@brucecomire4105
@brucecomire4105 Жыл бұрын
Ditty Wheels 4
@brucecomire4105
@brucecomire4105 Жыл бұрын
New wheel 🎡
@rk22cc
@rk22cc 18 күн бұрын
A tank with Seafoam has done wonders for me for a not perfectly running motor. Love the channel!
@efrainsalgadosr7279
@efrainsalgadosr7279 2 жыл бұрын
James, thanks a million.Listened 2 few guys, only u got 2 issue, thorough, great teacher, patient, knowledgeable, solved problem, learned lot from u. Thanks again, will continue 2 tune u on..... Efrain Sr.
@markphillips6154
@markphillips6154 3 жыл бұрын
Even $500 lawnmowers are now expendable and throw away. Where do people get the money to just throw things away like that I don’t get it
@dmorgan1307
@dmorgan1307 9 ай бұрын
​@@birdmountainboynope
@WikkedR1
@WikkedR1 9 ай бұрын
I agree 100 percent. But because anyone lacking knowledge of small engine repair would have to pay a shop $80/hr labor plus parts to fix it. If you can get a brand new one for $300-$500 why would they want to spend $200+ to fix a 7 year old mower?
@romanlapczynski2305
@romanlapczynski2305 8 ай бұрын
Ppp
@tccls
@tccls 5 ай бұрын
Sometimes people have been thinking of an upgrade, and decide to do it when they have an issue, I give away free stuff because I'm upgrading, it still has a life after me and I get something new and better, nothing wrong with that.
@scottcollins5060
@scottcollins5060 4 ай бұрын
It started in the mid 70's. I was a witness to the whole thing. People began to get lazy, but nothing like they are in the last 25 years. This is a whole new HELL!!!! 😦
@Farm_fab
@Farm_fab 3 жыл бұрын
Nice repair, Jim. I might add here that the trick to getting the mower deck to last a long time is to keep the bottom side of it clean and free from debris. The grass clumps hold moisture and the pH of the grass is slightly acidic, causing the deck to rust over time.
@dixiechampagne2892
@dixiechampagne2892 3 жыл бұрын
Keeping that mess off the top helps a lot, too. I was shocked, nay appalled, at the depth of the filth around the pulleys on the machine I ride a lot (beautiful black topsoil once you blow the grass clippings off the deck). It's a Deere, so the finish is coming off in sheets, not chips. I'm guessing I'll get to strip/treat/prime/paint it this winter, don't see the guy going for powder-coat, but a girl can dream. Probably be lucky to get real John Deere Yellow paint
@TheRedneckAtheist
@TheRedneckAtheist 2 жыл бұрын
Also, the washout actually works quite well but(and it's a big ol' fat but) you have to use it each and every time you run the mower, skip it once and debris start to cling and the port becomes useless in short order.
@patrickhughes7384
@patrickhughes7384 2 жыл бұрын
help to sand the deck and apply a can of undercoating, just be sure you prep it before spraying.
@bluor3713
@bluor3713 Жыл бұрын
​@@dixiechampagne2892 A powder coated mower? That's my dream too!
@gradyhernandez4699
@gradyhernandez4699 Жыл бұрын
Nick sprays Rust-Oleum paint under deck after cleaning
@vancejones2483
@vancejones2483 2 жыл бұрын
Watch many other with small engine repair but none compared to your abilities and thoroughness. And the way you present your videos are very complete.
@ni_wink84
@ni_wink84 3 жыл бұрын
Love these videos. Simple fixes and sometimes massive repairs, but alway done well and explained… keep up the great content !!
@jcondon1
@jcondon1 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Nick
@danieltolle148
@danieltolle148 3 жыл бұрын
I’m a big fan of yours. I wish I were as good at these small motors as you are.
@wildefox1478
@wildefox1478 3 жыл бұрын
That's a pretty nice mower to get for free, just a few simple fixes and a little tlc was needed, nice work James!
@jcondon1
@jcondon1 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@Shogomockid
@Shogomockid 2 жыл бұрын
Man you are the Bob Ross of small engine repair! Thank you
@gradyhernandez4699
@gradyhernandez4699 Жыл бұрын
8 mm & 1/4 maybe 3/8ths sockets used
@gradyhernandez4699
@gradyhernandez4699 Жыл бұрын
Ten mm too
@robertheim352
@robertheim352 Жыл бұрын
Yes, I agree he makes happy mowers! Listening to his instruction is very calming.
@arthurbiringer5676
@arthurbiringer5676 3 жыл бұрын
Very simple repair! Great job! A little cleaning, new wheels and VOILA!
@jcondon1
@jcondon1 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@christophermarshall5765
@christophermarshall5765 3 жыл бұрын
A good freebie!! Got to be happy with that. I do think the drive pinions should be bigger to engage. I'd love to get one of these mowers, take the back wheels off, then look at the drive gears, & make bigger ones from alloy bar using a mill cutter
@General-Eclectic
@General-Eclectic 3 жыл бұрын
I particularly liked the way that the beauty cover cleaned itself instantly with the touch of your hand.
@graymodeler
@graymodeler 3 жыл бұрын
I have one of these from about 2002. It has the 6.5 hp with primer bulb. No problems with the drive except once the gears got packed with mulch.
@eugenepiurkowski5439
@eugenepiurkowski5439 Жыл бұрын
I had the same issue with my wheels on my lawnmower. My local Toro dealer ordered some updated wheels and they have not failed in the five years since I installed them. Toro did refund me money for the previous set of wheels I had bought in the past. Glad I had the receipt. Thanks for the video. You do a great job and explain everything to us in language we can understand.
@butler386
@butler386 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, you are right on the design issue. To bad there is not an after market fix for cheap. But you got it working good as new. Great job. Now get back to mowing. Thanks for the video.
@jcondon1
@jcondon1 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@watermanone7567
@watermanone7567 3 жыл бұрын
Nice fix James, I recently had a mower that the air filter was so bad that it was sucking oil from the crankcase thur the breather tube. Changed the oil and filter and after running for a short time all the smoke stopped and ran great. Lack of maintenance again. Also try Fluid Film after cleaning under the mower deck, works great. Thanks for the video.
@jcondon1
@jcondon1 3 жыл бұрын
Great tips! Good to know that a dirty air filter can do that. Never thought of that.
@jimmonte9826
@jimmonte9826 3 жыл бұрын
These air filters are designed badly. Without a pre-filter they clog very fast in dusty conditions, and who wants to change the filter every time the gas tank is filled? When I mulch leaves with a mower like this one, that is about how long it would take for the filter to be clogged to the point where the engine has no power and is running very rich. Just adding a pre-filter would accomplish nothing since the air enters from the side and bottom. On mine, I have drilled a series of ~1/2" holes in the front of the housing, blocked off the normal air entry at the bottom, and added a foam pre-filter. It potentially could allow more water in in rainy conditions, but I do not do much lawn mowing in the rain. The change is a dramatic improvement. You still need to clean the pre-filter, but that is cheap and easy. Better but more work would be to remotely locate an air filter high on the handle where there is much less dust, although I have not yet tried that to see how well it works.
@MrNorthstar50
@MrNorthstar50 2 жыл бұрын
@@jimmonte9826 Man your right I had a one of those mowers and the filter was designed was just like you said you could not keep it clean and it would suck in oil and ruin the filter that was way over priced.I know it wasn't right but I took the crankcase breather hose off the filter and raped it in a pre filter foam.
@frankdavidson9675
@frankdavidson9675 3 жыл бұрын
you guys are lucky i can remember when a sling blade was state of the art for ( mowing) theb came the reel type they cut good very sharp i got 50 cent for about 2 hours work back then
@thomasmcdonough3360
@thomasmcdonough3360 3 жыл бұрын
I had one of these mowers that stripped the drive wheel gears. They actually make upgraded wheels with a steel gear instead of plastic, problem permanently solved.
@jcadult101
@jcadult101 3 жыл бұрын
Until the tread wears out?
@woolval52
@woolval52 3 жыл бұрын
@@jcadult101 Things wear out with age... you should see my knees.
@dantyler6907
@dantyler6907 Жыл бұрын
File with a file, no heating issue with the blade material... if it's made with hardened steel. Unregulated heat can wipeout the temper.
@dougseaman8791
@dougseaman8791 3 жыл бұрын
Since you already had the wheels off I think I would have removed the pinion gears and cleaned up the spring loaded keys which if you look at the inside of the gear makes it a one way drive. This allows the pinion gears to act like a differential drive and reduces the strain on the plastic gears. Not that this would be a total cure, it would contribute to a little longer life of the plastic. gears. On the keys, I use never seize and wipe most of it off so it won't collect alot of dirt and seize up again. Some mowers use a pin instead of a key but theory is the same. Great video as usual.
@BlueBlazer47
@BlueBlazer47 3 ай бұрын
Thanks for detailed video. Our similar rotary mower actually did catch fire once, but only petrol/gasoline and some grass got burned. The carburettor had a small leak, the exhaust/silencer next to it was damaged, and you can guess the rest of the story. Apart from a few burn-marks on the engine-casing, there was no damage!
@BangBangBang.
@BangBangBang. 3 жыл бұрын
I have one out in my yard and I noticed the same exact thing about the wheels. You saved me from breaking it down to figure out why. I thought it looked in too good of shape to be out by the curb. If the drive issue can't be fixed or modified to work without being engineered to fail, I could see me using the engine for a swap or maybe building some small contraption
@siberwolf33
@siberwolf33 3 жыл бұрын
This is hands down the best repair video on this mower on KZbin. Well done. Subscribed.
@lenlaflam1100
@lenlaflam1100 9 ай бұрын
Greatly appreciate your channel. Thanks for the tip on the degreaser.
@hamradioop5777
@hamradioop5777 3 ай бұрын
What a fantastic and thoroughly enjoyable video. Super photography, great audio and no stupid music. The work and explanations were all very nicely done. Kudos Sir! 😬 Subscribed and liked.
@TejasToolMan
@TejasToolMan 3 жыл бұрын
This summer there has been a lot of free mowers at the curb, all easy fixes too like this. Going to be some easy money this next spring
@elcomandante9299
@elcomandante9299 2 жыл бұрын
Free mowers on the curb? If u believe that Ive got sum ocean front property in Arizona.
@TejasToolMan
@TejasToolMan 2 жыл бұрын
@@elcomandante9299 little mijo sorry about your bad luck
@deanyanko3326
@deanyanko3326 5 ай бұрын
everyone is going battery !
@SBSATS
@SBSATS 3 ай бұрын
Thank you, brother. I learn a little more with each of your videos.
@gregorypiercesr.794
@gregorypiercesr.794 2 жыл бұрын
I have been given more of these mowers because of the wheel issues and Toro is aware of it. If there was a cheap supply of wheels that would be great because overall very good units!
@131dyana
@131dyana Жыл бұрын
thank you.
@greghanlon2235
@greghanlon2235 3 жыл бұрын
Nice work as always James.
@bobber55
@bobber55 2 жыл бұрын
With plastic gears and camshafts, carbs, etc. there are places plastic should never be.
@RustyNail5856
@RustyNail5856 2 жыл бұрын
That is a nice little Engine after a LTC.
@RCGshakenbake
@RCGshakenbake 4 ай бұрын
I disagree. I have this same engine on a husqvarna AWD someone gave me and there's always something up with it. I wish I had a way to put a manual choke and throttle on it. I also heard the cam shaft has plastic lobes on it. Thankfully I've never had to go that far into it.
@andyhamilton8940
@andyhamilton8940 3 жыл бұрын
Had the same problem with wheels. Purchased the wheels with metal gears but you have to change the drive gears too since the teeth wont mesh due to a different count of cogs.
@jcondon1
@jcondon1 3 жыл бұрын
I saw that. Was not in a rush to put more money into this mower. Am surprised the gears do not match.
@mikehrdlicka8635
@mikehrdlicka8635 Жыл бұрын
You should align middle setting on height adjuster bar behind where wheel bolts on pry out till wheel stands up straight. Gears will mesh better. I flip little gear over use new side of teeth. Remember ALIGNMENT teeth will mesh better closer. Amazon had wheels last spring &12 a pair. Ordered 6 pair
@bobhaddock957
@bobhaddock957 Жыл бұрын
i started using a needle scaler (air) on the bottom of my mower decks. works fantastic. no scraping .
@CarlGerlach
@CarlGerlach 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video James. Awesome as usual.
@fegolem
@fegolem 3 жыл бұрын
As I've learned from donyboy73, some carbs have a secret screen in the fuel inlet barb of the carb that can be clogged. Keep an eye out for those pesky things.
@ronnieso
@ronnieso 3 жыл бұрын
I think he said those were on the POWERMORE carbs.
@bushmaster2936
@bushmaster2936 3 жыл бұрын
@@ronnieso Yes, but They are not the only one with hidden screens or "filters" if you will. : )
@ronnieso
@ronnieso 3 жыл бұрын
@@bushmaster2936 Which other ones?
@willdwyer6782
@willdwyer6782 3 жыл бұрын
Surging on a Briggs & Stratton is often caused by air leaks in the intake manifold or the carburetor. On a Honda or Kohler, the pilot jet sits on top of the carburetor where it's easy for dirt to get into it.
@nicklutz61
@nicklutz61 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent video. Excellent production quality. I had just repaired and sold a very similar Toro 22 self propelled mower earlier this week that had the exact same problem. Great job James - keep those videos coming!
@jcondon1
@jcondon1 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@jameshedrick6839
@jameshedrick6839 3 жыл бұрын
Nice fix. I always did away with the self propel system. I never needed it
@johnDingoFoxVelocity
@johnDingoFoxVelocity Жыл бұрын
You know people knock Toro and Murray mowers but I have found them to be excellent for parts and serviceability
@jcondon1
@jcondon1 Жыл бұрын
Same here. They are easy to work on and get the job done.
@Rob1646
@Rob1646 Жыл бұрын
I don't own a mower or even have a lawn to mow yet here I am 33.49 minutes later 👀
@scottfirman
@scottfirman 3 жыл бұрын
When the air filter is plugged , it's normal for them to suck from the crank case vent tube drawing in oil. I wouldn't call that bad. I remember picking up a mower like that. Last year, I got one where you pulled the cord and oil would gush out the exhaust. It was trash. It was not over filled, just toast. Good video. I tell my customers it I'd absolutely essential to check that air filter a few times a year. Grass and dirt can plug up a filter easily. I like to take off the tins as well. Dollar store simply awesome works great for cleaning and degreasing an engine. Save yourself a few bucks on cleaners.
@deanyanko3326
@deanyanko3326 5 ай бұрын
those smokers keep the mosquito's away.
@elliswatkins812
@elliswatkins812 3 жыл бұрын
Keep up the good videos
@jcondon1
@jcondon1 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@mjg263
@mjg263 3 жыл бұрын
Great little mower there. If only the tips of the gears are engaging try replacing the rear axle bearings that mount in the HOC plate, they may have too much play. You can also use the older wheels with steel gears (the LawnBoy version of this mower uses steel gears too). The surging on these Quantum engines is often caused by that gray plastic intake manifold coming loose where it attaches to the intake port, make sure those two little bolts are tight. The carb “O” ring may be worn too, either of those conditions will cause a vacuum leak and surging. Lastly check and re-torque the cylinder head bolts, particularly the three around the exhaust port. You will almost always find those three loose on a Quantum that hasn’t been serviced in a while.
@MrMambott
@MrMambott 2 жыл бұрын
My old Honda Buffalo surged from having Vac or seal leak
@jeep146
@jeep146 3 жыл бұрын
I think many of the mowers come out of the same Chinese factory. I hate working on dirty engines and usually will clean them up first. I like to pull the spark plug to check the gap and see the condition. My neighbor started to mow her yard but shut it down she said it smelled funny. She said she had a guy change the oil and put a new blade. The blade was new so I looked at the oil. It had a dark gray smear at the bottom of the dip stick. I told her I would replace the oil . When I drained it about a teaspoon came out. After putting oil, it ran fine and didn't overheat. I didn't know the quick lube mechanics also did lawn mowers.
@jcondon1
@jcondon1 3 жыл бұрын
No kidding. Years ago brought my jeep YJ to a quick lube to do the manual transmission fluid change. After getting it back, had all sorts of problems shifting. Checked the fluid and they short changed me by about half the amount that should have been in there....
@alanstant9356
@alanstant9356 Жыл бұрын
I like that some carbs are pretty clean on some engines. Makes the job so much easier to get done lol.
@ken48827
@ken48827 27 күн бұрын
Something you should have done is clean and lube the drive sprokets. These need yearly maintenance as well. I use mineral oil which I learned from gun cleaning tutorials. Cheap and effective.
@TrillMatic187
@TrillMatic187 Жыл бұрын
Bought a toro 190cc recycler 22 for 50 bucks. Didn’t start, sprayed starting fluid and got it to surge. Replaced spark plug and air filter aswell as cleaning the carburetor. And as been running nice for 6 months
@kerrygleeson4409
@kerrygleeson4409 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing James 👍
@Truthorshit
@Truthorshit 2 жыл бұрын
blade balance tip! thnx J
@williamyorkolepossum
@williamyorkolepossum 2 жыл бұрын
Way to go there. Nice mower. Wish I had that one when I was a kid pushing a Clinton three WHEELED fixed mower. Whew! (but it ran good)
@philliphall5198
@philliphall5198 Жыл бұрын
Yep my dad bought me a used three wheel mower and it lasted for years plus I mowed grass after school and weekend
@deanyanko3326
@deanyanko3326 5 ай бұрын
Remember the basic 3.5 briggs back in the day were $29.oo way better than the push reel mowers we used as youngsters to make a few bucks.
@80SWoods
@80SWoods Жыл бұрын
I use a big long pry bar to bend the wheel adjusters (pry between the wheel adjuster and the deck) to push the wheel gear closer to the drive gear. Over time, the metal gets bent, but a minor “tweak” brings them back into tight mesh again.
@Demoralized88
@Demoralized88 5 ай бұрын
Thanks, just bought a used Craftsman 6.75 22" and basically all the wheels are bent inwards towards the top. Also was pretty filthy but it's harder to push than it should be and I'm thinking it's got to be the bent axles. I was really hoping they could be bent back instead of buying new adjuster assemblies and will try it this way.
@dogdooish
@dogdooish Жыл бұрын
I hope you gave the old guy back his mower, that would really get my vote!
@SeattlePioneer
@SeattlePioneer Жыл бұрын
Whatever for?
@mattwaters6987
@mattwaters6987 4 ай бұрын
Na, he already did the favour by taking it off his hands.
@mickdog2
@mickdog2 3 жыл бұрын
good video. I was surprised to learn that the blade torque is only 35ftlb.
@jcondon1
@jcondon1 3 жыл бұрын
I think it ended up being higher according to the manual (50+). Wanted to make sure it was at least 35 before trying to start it.
@elcomandante9299
@elcomandante9299 2 жыл бұрын
Torque isn't necessary for the blade.
@JMassengill
@JMassengill 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent work. It cleaned up nicely. I was concerned about the oil dipstick getting knocked out while you were cleaning it. It didn’t happen but could have. Sometimes it’s a bit to easy being an armchair quarterback, forgive my pickiness.
@jcondon1
@jcondon1 3 жыл бұрын
I do the same thing when editing my videos. Always see things better when watching it after the fact.
@jodybrownbrown5411
@jodybrownbrown5411 2 жыл бұрын
@@jcondon1 new subscriber. I liked yr vd very neat, clean &professional work. Like yr explanation.keep up the good work.
@markr.1984
@markr.1984 3 ай бұрын
My Brigg Platinum engine drinks only ethanol free gas. They love that stuff. Mine is on an old Sears mower with no self-propel.
@rutbuster1
@rutbuster1 7 ай бұрын
I love finding free or low cost stuff like this. I'm semi-retired and love to work on projects like this. I came across a deal with a very clean Toro Recycler (Not running and a valve cover leak) with a Briggs, and an old Troy Bilt with a Honda GVC 160 engine. Got both for $50. The Toro was a simple fix and is in use now. The Troy Bilt with the GVC 160 runs good but smokes. I'm gonna go through the engine and I'll get whatever it needs. The way it runs, I'm thinking a fresh set of rings and a carb clean. Honda is going to quit making gas powered lawn engines, (going all green), so I'm gonna get whatever the engine needs now while the parts are plentiful. Honda engines last forever. Oh, good job on your finds. You're like me, if I find something and think it's worth fixing, I'll take it. lol
@garrydonnelly6433
@garrydonnelly6433 Жыл бұрын
Hi James. I bet you are good at jig saw puzzles because you are very methodical and have an eye for detail. Anyway, thanks for the educational videos. I always look for your latest offering. Cheers.
@joehead1294
@joehead1294 3 жыл бұрын
Crankshaft pulley will wear some, cause slippage. Belt change-out not much fun. Try snapper self-propelled for some interesting design. The original one, rear wheel with friction disk multi-speed.
@eCitizen1
@eCitizen1 Жыл бұрын
Another great video. It mirrors my experience of getting mowers with "issues" that are often more about maintenance than actual repairs. Bad gas, filters and carburetors seem to be the most common failures. I use non-ethanol gasoline and synthetic oil exclusively in all my small engines. I also add fuel filters when I can. After every use I blow off the engine with compressed air. And blow out the air filters every three or four uses.
@halloweenjunkie666
@halloweenjunkie666 Жыл бұрын
Ours we had issues with grass filling at the front and the blades were sharp and the shooting blade not the mulching...so we traded it and got a greenworks 80 volt...baller
@petertarantelli
@petertarantelli 2 жыл бұрын
Great video. You’ve inspired me to buy a $30 mower off craigslist (that runs and cuts but is smoking a little) and go through it. The mower in this video, I would have disconnected the drive mechanism as I like to push my mower. Thanks again!
@GapRecordingsNamibia
@GapRecordingsNamibia 3 жыл бұрын
20:55 THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU! for cleaning up the tank release ring.... I'm sitting here thinking please don't put it back together without cleaning that ring.... that would've bugged me to hell and back....... You had me in suspense there for a bit James..... 😂😂😂😂😂
@BrucesShop
@BrucesShop 3 жыл бұрын
Well that is how I balance blades as well. That is sad the recall doesn't include this mower. Great video Jim
@jcondon1
@jcondon1 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Bruce. Thought of buying one of those fancy balancer tools, but this works just as well.
@garymarkham4167
@garymarkham4167 Жыл бұрын
You know your mowers mate..great skills...Regards from Australia.
@larrysmall3521
@larrysmall3521 3 жыл бұрын
How about 3D printing new drive gears that are about 5 or 10 percent bigger. If you can get gears with proper tooth engagement it should be ok.
@mikespain8655
@mikespain8655 3 жыл бұрын
Sure Larry, the 3D printer is definitely more accessible and less expensive than some $40 mower wheels from Amazon.
@rpavlik1
@rpavlik1 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah I'd definitely be more likely to try printing than buying some wheels, but that's because I already have a printer. Apparently some public libraries have 3d printers too?
@jcondon1
@jcondon1 3 жыл бұрын
My son has one. He has made me a few parts, but they fail really quick. The plastics used on those printers have a low melting point.
@rpavlik1
@rpavlik1 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah the kind of plastic really matters, as does the design and printing direction. "Maker's Muse" channel has done a lot of 3d printed gears for high power brushless motors recently and the durability varied a lot even between brands of nominally similar varieties of plastic.
@haroldfisher2256
@haroldfisher2256 3 жыл бұрын
Another problem they have is the side discharger failure. After only a few times using it the plastic mounts fail and is no longer usable and falls off the machine when trying to use it. Thanks for another video.
@martinvs6415
@martinvs6415 Жыл бұрын
Well done. If that little drive gear was slack adjustable that problem would not be as frequent as it is. Anyway, great video. Keep them coming.
@rogerd4559
@rogerd4559 Жыл бұрын
When your carb is dirty like that and you cleaned it. It may be that the fuel lines are breaking down, putting debree in the fuel bowl. It also is wise to add a fuel filter to the line
@oatnoid
@oatnoid 4 ай бұрын
Just rehabbed a similar Toro self propelled somebody got fed up with and kicked it to the curb. OK I'll take it. Rebuilt carb. fired it up. sold for $150. Easy money.. A neighbor threw out his troy built a couple of years old. Cleaned it up rebuilt carb. I'm keeping this one.
@adnacraigo6590
@adnacraigo6590 3 жыл бұрын
I have the exact mower and l learned a few things about it if there is ever a drive issue. Thanks.
@wolfman007zz
@wolfman007zz Жыл бұрын
Compacted grass that gets hot and burns usually means the auto choke has interference also. The belt drive on the PTO is probably worn and slipping. I haven’t watched the fix-phase here yet. I’m going to bet the carb is clean. I like to make my own calls to see if I’m right. In 50 years of mowing grass, edgers, trimmers, push mowers and riders, tillers, pressure washers and generators, I’ve NEVER had to take my equipment in for service. I do it myself. My last push mower lasted for 25 years, 10 of that in commercial service. (The deck had holes in it, so I gave it to a 13 year-old aspiring lawn care professional. His dad is a welder by profession!)
@shadowbanned69
@shadowbanned69 3 жыл бұрын
I’ve had 3 generations of toro recyclers just like these 1. They HAVE to warm up before they run good 2. Toro advertises its a “never change your oil” mower 3. Even my brand new one smokes on start up! 4. The oil quantity supplied by toro in box is too much For the initial fill up! 5. It’s considered a disposable mower in today’s standards that’s why there’s no oil change needed. 6. Advertised horsepower is a joke! Mine is a 5.75hp and I’d be shocked if it was 3.5hp at most. 7 if you don’t clean your toro “ every single time you use it” it will be junk before your first oil change! So, what have we learned? It’s disposable, needs more than advertised and it’s not what the rates specs claim….. ITS CHINESE MADE JUNK!!!! BUYER BEWARE!
@wannawin95
@wannawin95 3 жыл бұрын
It’s considered a disposable mower in today’s standards that’s why there’s no oil change needed. This is a common misconception about these 'never change oil' small engines. I agree the quality has dropped and their life expectancy isn't nearly as long as older ones. However, these engines achieve the 'never change oil' because they are designed to burn oil. The engines consume about 25% of the oil every 40 hours. If your adding 25% of your oil every 40 hours, thats basically the same as changing it but over a longer period of time.
@Rein_Ciarfella
@Rein_Ciarfella 3 жыл бұрын
wannawin95 That’s certainly the case with the Honda SX I inherited from the in-laws when they moved to Florida years ago. This thing must be close to 45 years old and uses a tiny bit of oil every year and the oil always looks very clean. Great machine.
@Rein_Ciarfella
@Rein_Ciarfella 3 жыл бұрын
This is common among newer cars. Oil change intervals are way too long, oil breaks down and things like timing chains wear out unexpectedly, resulting sometimes on interference engines with destroyed top ends and worse. I stick to 3K mile changes no matter what. Cheap insurance. 👍🔧🧰🚗
@mikespain8655
@mikespain8655 3 жыл бұрын
The Toro Recycler and Personal Pace are at the top for the $400ish price point. They are NOT junk, their are A lot of them out in the field still running 20 years later. You sir, don't know what you are talking about.
@faststang85
@faststang85 3 жыл бұрын
@@mikespain8655 these mowers are indeed junk, you don't have a clue guy. I've seen them sell at home depot for less than 200$ even the lower end hondas with the gcv160 engines are better than theses piles of crap, its a embarrassment to the toro name. The old school toros with the aluminum decks, and 2 stroke suzuki engines put these to shame.
@themowerman
@themowerman 3 жыл бұрын
Great to see a Mowers video.. just in time to watch with my lunch.. hope you and the family are well
@jcondon1
@jcondon1 3 жыл бұрын
All are well. Hope you and family are well.
@edm1718
@edm1718 4 ай бұрын
I've seen other videos where they put shims in between that gold bracket and the frame to get the gears to line up better. And some guys replace the plastic gears wheels with the older medal gears, which last longer. I got a 2006 Toro similar to this with the metal gears.
@richardbarie319
@richardbarie319 3 ай бұрын
They should make a little bit larger gear for the back of the wheel. The recall kit should include 2 new larger gears and new gear attatchment hardware.
@michaelgonzales7655
@michaelgonzales7655 2 жыл бұрын
Fyi if the lawnmower is smoking check your oil dip level most of the time it's just overfilled dip it over and remove some oil to right level
@salatiello1956
@salatiello1956 2 жыл бұрын
I have the same mower, in fact the 2010 model as well. As with any drive system, the bearings, bushings and the spacers wear out over time and in fact get "egged" out. This causes the drive gear to lose engagement with the wheel gear. So the solution for me was to replace those parts along with new steel gears and wheels that have steel gears as well. There used to be a guy on eBay that was selling these kits, but he no longer does that. I think you can get these parts from the Toro website. I did this a couple years back and it's worked well for me.
@helloharry1418
@helloharry1418 3 жыл бұрын
I love your videos keep putting 👍great content out...i got my rum and coke, and watch a couple videos before turning in for the night...very thorough and clear instruction
@jcondon1
@jcondon1 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@benjamincresswell3713
@benjamincresswell3713 5 ай бұрын
James, another very fine video. Methodical and predictable. Look it over, assess it, run it, clean it up and change the oil. Then use it. Growing up during the 1960's in a suburb of Detroit where people had fairly good paying jobs, they threw out mowers when they failed to run or start properly. Because (I thought at the time) there were just no repair shops, people went to Montgomery Wards, Sears and Roebucks or the local hardware store and bought new ones. For me it was a goldmine having people put old lawnmowers out at the road for rubbish collection. I collected them. I had so many engines from various lawnmowers one time an Uncle came over and upon seeing them remarked "You've got more little engines than Carter has little liver pills." That was my upbringing. Dad had a few tools and I used them to rip apart everyone of those little engines and learn all about them. For me the neatest thing was that after I had 3 or 4 of the same engine, one would have a bad part that another had that was still good. So I'd combine them and Voilà, I'd have a running engine. In short order I scrounged together an entire lawnmower. It was named after the man who created the Oldsmobile Car, Ransom Eli Olds. It said "REO" right on it. It was a 17" rotary mower that I used as I began my first real money making job mowing lawn for a very nice elderly lady Mrs. Climber. I split $5.00 with my best friend for mowing the front 1/2 of her 2 acre property about once per week. When she paid us I would immediately go down to my local auto parts store and buy a quart of Wolf's Head motor oil for 75¢ and then hit the corner Oak Gas station to fill a 2 gallon can for 50¢ Between mowing jobs, I worked on building a Go-Kart. It was strictly illegal to ride it on my dirt road, I was told by police. So I only made "trial" runs, but only seldom, just to see if what I had accomplished actually worked. Funny thing though; somehow I always managed to burn my 2 gallons of gas by the time the next mowing job was done. Thanks for the video, and conjuring up those old memories James. See you next time. ben/ michigan
@deanyanko3326
@deanyanko3326 5 ай бұрын
Small engine repairmen are millionaires, Ha Ha Ha
@jackgarcia3301
@jackgarcia3301 Жыл бұрын
The best way to tip over a lawnmower is front end up unless changing the oil
@jimato01
@jimato01 Жыл бұрын
Yes it id help James. Thank you !
@redneckbryon
@redneckbryon 3 жыл бұрын
For the drive, the only thing that might work would be a slightly larger gear if one was available.
@williamllorens2141
@williamllorens2141 Жыл бұрын
It’s a self propelled mulcher ❤
@SeeSaw72
@SeeSaw72 3 ай бұрын
Great video again. I just did my mower as well and found about three ounces of water in my tank. I do leave my mower outside but how would it get so much water? After cleaning the carb it is a one pull start. Also replaced the geared wheels all were stripped. It takes two and a half hours to mow my lawn. The only thing I might suggest is sharpening the blades away from all your equipment . I see a rotor nearby and other stuff that could get metal filings in them.
@davidmiller9485
@davidmiller9485 3 жыл бұрын
if I was going to guess I would say you have a vacuum leak somewhere in the fuel system. When things get hot the system expands and stops surging. Take some WD-40 and look for leaks around the gaskets near the carb. and tank. Other than that you might have some slight blockage somewhere, but I didn't notice any when you had things apart. Outside of a weak spark those are two most common reasons for surge.
@sweetlou5902
@sweetlou5902 3 жыл бұрын
The only fix for the drive would be if toro either enlarged either the drive pinion gear or the sprocket on the wheel. And doubtful they would, or have they due to the recall. The fix was apparently replacing 3 screws?
@adrianbadea1179
@adrianbadea1179 3 жыл бұрын
They should stop making plastic wheels... Alloy wheels are better... especially for the gear...
@sweetlou5902
@sweetlou5902 3 жыл бұрын
@@adrianbadea1179 yup, but then wheres the failure point? The transmission?
@jr-pl9kj
@jr-pl9kj 2 жыл бұрын
i have that exact same mower, i bought it used in non running condition, with a bunch of other mowers, unfortunately the previous owner ran the engine with very low oil causing engine damage, since the deck is still good im looking to someday put another used cheap engine on it. i got the other mowers running tho, its always a dirty carb, if manufacturers would just put a fuel filter on it this wont be a issue which is what ill do with all my mowers.
@caseybszombiemowers2569
@caseybszombiemowers2569 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent job!! I would have put another 20 bucks and got a new blade. Still a very nice mower for resale or personal use. I think they designed them to fail, just not as fast as they do. I've come across some with an aluminum gear and they hold up better.
@ronjohnstonaustralia2417
@ronjohnstonaustralia2417 3 жыл бұрын
Not designed to fail..... Designed to a price....
@yannbreizh3128
@yannbreizh3128 Жыл бұрын
​@@ronjohnstonaustralia2417Tout à fait 👍.
@philliphall5198
@philliphall5198 Жыл бұрын
I repair and sale used mowers and they all get a new blade also
@miloradpudja1501
@miloradpudja1501 Жыл бұрын
Hello there. Drive issue on that lawnmower. Tips of gears are barely engaging. There is no adjustment to it, but, you can fix that problem by bringing center of wheels closer to center of drive gear. wheel carrier plate could be drilled and nut weld on back side. Some measuring is needed of course....depending on skills and tools someone has. Keep up good work.
@themightywookie351c3
@themightywookie351c3 4 ай бұрын
Mr. Roger’s Lawn and Garden. Grandma freaked out every time you changed your coat and swapped your shoes. Lol
@lainemann1421
@lainemann1421 Жыл бұрын
People never change out their oil and air filters and it’s so easy peasy
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