Truck Drivers Getting Fired & Put Out Of Service For Using Personal Conveyance Wrong

[@bettiebarker1975]

As a former deputy,back when the dinosaurs ruled the earth, i was taught, I was not the judge jury or executioner. I was nothing more than a glorified babysitter...These security officers and police officers now days act like they are God, so sad. Great explanation from this young man, I understood it.

[@KTannerPaisleyKK]

Many time officers get enjoyment out of taking sides with the perp instead of the victim. I've seen it several times

[@bettiebarker1975]

@KTannerPaisleyKK yeah we, us old farts, called short man syndrome and John Wayne syndrome..lol.. now I am seeing officers from other agencies,cursing one another..I am like if yall talk like that to each other, I can only imagine how you talk to the public. Sad sad sad

[@Lone_Wolf_91]

I am sure what we often see is a rare occasion anyway. We don't hear about police officers being cool or what not. I belive most have common sense and I for ex use PC while going home/back to local yard for a trailer where I live and never anyone asked me anything about that and I use it every week. Had few guys doing inspection and never had a problem except the one I knew I got something wrong.

[@kadinzaofelune]

Tired of these crappy shippers and receivers.

[@eelkeplantinga7158]

You got that right, California is good for that, loading 5 hours for 3 pallets lol. I have to say I take the produce to Canada so it has to be inspected before shipping. But still, 5 hours for 3 pallets is alot 😆 🤣

[@Daniel-z2j2v]

If we still had paper log this wouldn’t be an issue.

[@mayyouprosper8140]

You don't need paper logs pc does not have a limit. You could even be loaded and it still would be legal.

[@chrisbelsito4231]

AMEN!!!! Parking wouldn’t be an issue either

[@michaelk.3052]

Nothing to do with paper logs...... All the guys screaming about paper logs are usually the ones doing sketchy stuff 🤷

[@Daniel-z2j2v]

@@michaelk.3052 it’s only sketchy because the government says it is. But it’s funny they claim elog is for safety but then force everyone to race against the clock and force drivers to stop when they’re not tired and start when they are tired. Don’t be a government stooge you’re disposable

[@mayyouprosper8140]

@Unduplicatable it's in their own website I even printed out the sheet from FMCSA DOT. That's how I do it and no problem.

[@michaelsorrentino-yp7nb]

What ever company we are speaking about "SUCKS"

[@jeffstanford4287]

I am so happy I retired and no longer have to with stupid government regulation controlled by a man who has a husband. The country has gone straight to hell .

[@YTOW85]

🎯🎯🎯​@@jeffstanford4287

[@NorthEastLowrider4lyfe]

Agreed!!

[@mr.george-pht]

This is one of the main reason I left the food hauling industry. Otr is destroyed because of situations like this. 5 hours load times. 9 hours unload times. Elds No bathrooms No parking. Etc. Enjoy and god bless those still doing it. There is other industries that pay just as much if not more.

[@battleborntj]

That's why they've allowed so much leeway for foreigners, because they willing to work for peanuts.

[@1babysun]

What other industries pay 💰 as much, and would you mind sharing them?

[@doughansen5957]

My favorite part of flatbedding is that it's true you rarely wait. I can think of ONE load in the past three months where I was waiting longer than an hour to get loaded. Securement and tarping is a challenge, it's true. But, given the choice, I'd personally much rather do that than sit at a dock for hours and hours.

[@tomhaul3448]

@@1babysun Take your cdl to an electrical lineman apprenticeship with the IBEW and sign their books. Apprentices at 50hr work weeks make almost 90k, Journeyman 130+. gl

[@Rothydot]

We deal with dot. Shitty brokers, shippers and receivers. Some don’t even let me use their bathrooms. Sucks sometimes when I need to drop an extra load lol

[@BigLisaFan]

I asked to use their bathroom but no dice Emptied a bottle in their parking lot. P on me, you get it back.

[@kellytaber9345]

First off if a shipper or receiver doesn't want to load or unload in a decent time frame I pull out and shut my doors and they can go lump it. I will not waste my time waiting for them. I've done this before and I'll continue to do it. Hrs of service is what it is. The only way customers will learn is to teach them a lesson if they want to ship or receive their products

[@hvelez8239]

What was your repercussions from the company you worked for? Did they support your decision?

[@kellytaber9345]

​@hvelez8239 they had no choice hrs of service is what it is. Any company that doesn't support their drivers decisions on that matter is breaking the law. I get safety messages all the time saying preplan your trips accordingly to prevent running out at customers. So I do if they don't supply parking I give them a choice either get me loaded quickly or unloaded quickly or I'll come back after a break. The company has no say since I'm following the hrs of service. If they fire me for doing my job they won't be happy at the money they will lose not only from a law suit but from the esop I have which is quite substantial. Any company that fires drivers for this isn't a company worth working for and should be out of business. Besides I'm too damn old to go playing these types of immature games some companies do. I suggest if you work for one of these you may want to go work somewhere else.

[@Jack-pd4ps]

Facts.

[@Matt.97-yx2zx]

I did the same / The big company I used to work for pretty much understood me. They are strict on following hours of service/ smaller company, however, did not like what I did, but I didn’t care/ my priority was my CDL, not the company I work for / can’t do shit with no CDL

[@eelkeplantinga7158]

Talking about Lumpers lol. There's only Capstone these days, I call them Mafia each time. In Kent Washington Sysco once 387 dollars for 6 pallets to unload

[@indafield404]

This why i came off the road and doing local

[@blkheavyweight]

You're leaving out a very important element most of these carriers have PC turned off and you have to call them and many of them don't answer the phone at 1:00 in the morning or midnight this is very aggravating and frustrating somebody's telling you to move and you can't turn PC on to even leave until your company gives you permission and they want to make sure that you know you're meeting the guidelines for they will turn it on and you just caught in the middle and you know the whole thing is just you can't win

[@charlesbutler8057]

Retired now but drove otr all thru the covid pandemic. I recall driving legally for 24 hours straight with only a few 15 minute breaks in order to make a Walmart load on time. FMCSA allowed this so the general public could get fed. Shippers/receivers treated drivers with respect during this time because we were considered essential personnel at that time. Many praises were heaped on drivers at that time for continuing to drive. Now the entitled general public and FMCSA consider truckers to be servents due to the actions of a few. Trucking has turned into an even bigger shit show following along with the rest of the country. God bless.

[@davidbarnhouse5119]

I also remember that we were so "essential " that we were told that we'd be compensated for being away from home and family and making sure that people were fed and had their toilet paper and now today we are the biggest POS out there. I'm so close to pulling the plug and hanging it up

[@DonFonzarelli-uq9yx]

No wonder your retired.

[@onebadapple83]

Had a questionable PC a while back at a speeding stop in Ohio. Trooper talked to a supervisor and was told if the movement wasn’t producing revenue it’s ok to PC!

[@timexcape7961]

People actually stay on duty for 5 hour loading?😂 You know you can switch to sleeper.

[@openroadamerica]

Agreed, sleeper berth should have avoided this issue.

[@eelkeplantinga7158]

Correct, in USA you can do split sleeper if you parked 3 hours and then 7 hours. But only for one day 😆

[@kitchenspider]

You can switch to sleeper if you are in the sleeper, not sitting driver seat waiting for a green light. Also, if your company maxes your 70 every week, logging sleeper at shipper/receiver will break you bc now you are working 80+ hours. Sleeper during load/unload should honestly be gotten rid of... even if you are in it, you cant really sleep, take off boots etc... goyta move when you hear that knock, get that phonecall, buzzer, green light whatever. If people stopped logging sleeper and stayed on duty, it would more accurately reflect the bs load times and something might actually be done about it, but no... leave it to truck drivers to actively continue sabotaging the industry by saying "just log sleeper dude". smh. You realize it still costs you TIME right? Is your TIME not the same thing as money? Cant drive 700 miles AND noodle around at warehouses for 3+ hours at a time everyday... you'll go bananas if you try. So if youre gonna do 500 instead you might as well log onduty at shipper so the people know why. Abusing the intent of the regs to earn your company more money and sweep the issue under the rug is enabling these shippers/receivers to do it in the first place

[@michaelk.3052]

Split sleeper is the shix if you use it properly 😊

[@kitchenspider]

@@michaelk.3052 using it to freeze your 14 in certain situations can be useful but when it comes the longer 7/8hr break there is rarely a reason for me to ever not just finish out the full 10 and get a full clock. I run w/split ruleset on all the time for that reason only. The problem is, your dispatchers/planners get comfy with this fact and get lazy with planning your loads until you start getting unmanageable ridiculous loads all the time.

[@c-w-h]

My company uses drop lots to rest when no other place is available to park. Trick is to drop trailer. Use PC and then go back to the drop lot under PC.

[@RomeoUrsu-fy9qo]

My trick is to work normal and get paid for my time….PC is free work.

[@c-w-h]

@@RomeoUrsu-fy9qo not all drop lots have bathrooms and showers. When you wake up in the night and need to go. They spent all their money on cams. 🤣 America.

[@RomeoUrsu-fy9qo]

@@c-w-h Now that is a very good reason to work for free…even I admit it😂😂😂😂

[@Anonymous-qr8lk]

​@@RomeoUrsu-fy9qoHow is pc home to your family free work ?😂

[@babatundesho4735]

What a clean explanation. His a good teacher.

[@vf12497439]

Nothing new about being kicked off the customers property after your loaded or empty. Call your company logs/compliance/safety line and explain I’m out of hours and they are demanding I leave. There is no legal parking here and I need to go to the nearest safe/legal parking. If your company leaves you hanging to catch a parking ticket I would find another job. 23+ year driver here and I’ve seen different angles and a reasonable company will say they will fix your eld and just go to the closest legal parking. A shit company that you need to leave will say pull out on the street and catch a parking ticket. DONT WORK FOR SHIT COMPANIES THAT WILL LEAVE YOU IN UNSAFE LOCATIONS!!!!!

[@NYiiTrippy]

Copy and pasted directly from fmcsa Personal conveyance is the movement of a commercial motor vehicle (CMV) for personal use while off-duty. A driver may record time operating a CMV for personal conveyance as off-duty only when the driver is relieved from work and all responsibility for performing work by the motor carrier. The CMV may be used for personal conveyance even if it is laden, since the load is not being transported for the commercial benefit of the motor carrier at that time. Personal conveyance does not reduce a driver’s or motor carrier’s responsibility to operate a CMV safely. Motor carriers can establish personal conveyance limitations either within the scope of, or more restrictive than, the guidance provided

[@CameronCalhoun-mc9by]

Y'all it's fair to say trucking has hit the shits almost every vid I see now is something bad happening for some stupid shit

[@gregflock380]

if your company wont allow pc.....and your at a shipper and they need you leave ....tell them they need to tow the truck....when your company pays for the tow tell them to allow pc next time

[@kelg-ti7xb]

He should have told him he needs to call the police so they can escort him out because it's against the law to move..if he out of hours

[@yamama7265]

The police really don't have the authority but the dot do he should call the DOT and explain the problem

[@ak_getright9905]

So he couldn’t just pc to nearest truck stop after getting unloaded, since he was empty? Seems like that should be one of the prime uses. Especially after seeing he was in the same location for 5 hrs and especially if they unloaded him in a normal time frame he would’ve still had time to go park.

[@legionofanon]

​@@ak_getright9905under the dot rules, he could. Under bs company policy he likely couldn't. Policy should never trump law imo

[@Whyme103]

Find another company, there is no way I’ll beg a company for anything, just move on.

[@spaceghost8995]

​@@ak_getright9905You can PC.

[@Rassy636]

Show Fmcsa this …. Let’s see what they say

[@AtillaGenghisHuyter]

There is no limit.

[@mayyouprosper8140]

PC doesn't have a limit.

[@boatbound3300]

Lots of luck fighting this crap

[@danstafford6536]

The e l d has made trucking worse... It turns a good Trucker into a bad trucker I've got all kinds of stories on bad shippers and receivers... One example, Costco unloades at four o'clock in the morning, They made me stand on the dock Well, I'm not a graveyard truck driver... Many Shippers and receivers are very uncooperative and give a truck driver a hard time... California is the worst, They all hate truck drivers.

[@SilverGirl-925]

I'd like to ask a question. I called someone's husband a 'trucker' on a youtube comment, and they were insulted. I thought it was a completely acceptable term. She said "He is a man who drives a truck, not a trucker". My husband is a teacher, but apparently people are supposed to refer to him as 'a man to teaches'? I always thought it was cool when people say, "I'm a trucker". Am I wrong? This woman reported me as being abusive for that.

[@BigLisaFan]

Teachers are now “educators”. Don’t worry about that woman. Probably wishes her husband was a CEO rather than a trucker. 🤣

[@doughansen5957]

​@SilverGirl-925 she's an idiot, don't worry about it. Sounds like someone taking a high horse stance about a non issue.

[@spaceghost8995]

​@@SilverGirl-925Well the word trucker suffers from a bad stereotype. People picture a guy with plaid shirts jeans, big boots and huge cowboy hat chewing tobacco, smoking listening to Hank Williams Jr. and being an intolerant right wing A hole. I'm NOTHING like that. I don't even talk to guys like that out here. I quit using the CB years ago because of those rednecks. I'm 61 and white just in case you wondered.

[@Nihil2005]

Use the “Split Sleeper Berth”. Put yourself in “Sleeper Berth” when you arrive at the shipper/receiver.

[@spaceghost8995]

That accomplishes nothing. Your 14 clock keeps on a running!😊

[@danstafford6536]

The worst I have ever had happened... I waited for two days to get a trailer loaded, Then they canceled that load.

[@legionofanon]

Now you got a free load to sell. If they still want it after cancelling, 2k fee to unload your truck, and must be cash, no check. They can cancel checks.

[@KingJRZJ]

​@legionofanon his trailer was empty

[@legionofanon]

@@KingJRZJ i misread loaded as unloaded, oops

[@joelmanon5983]

Let's make America Paper Logs again 😎

[@Afrodza]

Another scenario. Costco (Tracy, CA) said, "they used to let drivers park on their lot. But drivers leave such a mess that they (Costco) don't allow parking."

[@spaceghost8995]

Yep. And every trucker will deny they litter.😂

[@Seri-Katil]

Company policy should not be allowed to overrule dot policy.

[@yabadabado7442]

I totally agree.

[@spaceghost8995]

All companies do this. A company can bar you from wearing colors. The police cannot arrest you for it though.

[@NerdyHoodReviews]

I asked if i could use PC to go home and i had only few minutes left on clock. My house was only 1hour away and i was gonna have a day off. I was told NO, that it's only for gettin to the closest safe haven.

[@triforcexxx305]

Once again we need to held these shippers and receivers accountable and the company as well for being stupid

[@oldsagejoe]

Before retiring the carrier I drove for had a simple policy for personal conveyance.... you had to start and end your pc driving at the same location and no loaded trailers.

[@paullogan9960]

One small question on P.C. I delivered into Los Angeles, Ca. ( This was 2 decades ago) on a Monday, nothing Tuesday, Wednesday lunch called in and nothing. Told Dispatcher Have a good weekend and bobtailed to Pensacola, Fl., 3.5 days to arrive at home show P.C. the whole time ? Note in logs Home bound? Took a 10 day vacation at arrival. What does P.C. say for that many days?

[@MrHhill2001]

You definitely can pc from the dock. You’re done with the load

[@vendingdudes]

Only if the purpose of your movement is an off duty activity

[@legionofanon]

​@@vendingdudesfood and entertainment, you can get both at a truck stop. The entertainment is usually the new drivers backing into a spot lol

[@Britcarjunkie]

I've PC'd clear across the country! It's perfectly legal so long as its done correctly.

[@TruckerNate97]

That's why I always go off duty when at a shipper or receiver so I can do a split shift

[@mayyouprosper8140]

Company policy does not mean the company can break the law. Legally you can pc anywhere because its personal even if you are loaded.

[@Dubya9W9]

it's not breaking the law..When you purchase a truck and hire someone to drive it, you get to say how he/she uses said equipment..you should try it..and idk why all of these drivers crying now..most wanted the eld, well now you have it..me i'm looking for a glider..buh bye

[@TOdoubledizzle24]

Any company that fires you for that, you shouldn't be working for in the first place. With trucking you have to ha e some extra money in the bank so you can walk away at any time!

[@juniorrodriguez6961]

An issue like that happened at Target Distribution Center, once they ask me to leave unloaded its an automatic rejection on the load. As an owner operator, with own authority, i personally log off and end my day, commencing an Off duty term.

[@RidinWitKenny]

All truckers. Let’s unite. I’ll be the spokesperson. Let’s write down our demands and set up a date to stop driving until our demands are met….. no? Well stfu! Everyone who’s REALLY tired of the bs let’s do it.

[@3182john]

I hear this every week. “Let’s all shut down next week!!” Or “let’s all boycott NY!!” (Still not sure exactly why) nothing ever happens.

[@zeroshepard9513]

Its easier to quit the cesspool

[@RidinWitKenny]

@@3182john because it’s not organized. Ppl just be running their mouth. We don’t have anyone to speak for us. No one to lead. But I’m volunteering.

[@RidinWitKenny]

@@zeroshepard9513 Quitting isn’t a lucrative option though. Where u gon go and make this kinda of money for this amount of labor?

[@zeroshepard9513]

@@RidinWitKenny I want livestock. Ill stay until I can afford to switch. I want exercise and real fresh air. This job is a health sink and these hassels arent worth it for me.

[@MsShunCTheRoadRunna]

Great information!!

[@calebthekonkurer]

That’s Rediculous 5 hours 🤷‍♂️ Wow that is wrong 😑

[@adamantium_1]

When I worked at Heartland Express, we were allowed to PC home up to under 100 miles❤

[@rigoestrada177]

That not what Wisconsin state troopers say they say I couldn’t pc bobtail to home terminal from one state to anther… 🧐

[@yeezus9142]

Not me watching this after using personal conveyance from Pensacola to Orlando cause if I make it to Florida I’m going home no matter what 😂

[@ronnieallen6986]

The law states can PC if a driver runs out at customer to the nearest safe haven like a truck stop or PC to get something to eat only time to us PC

[@Wesker1213Gaming]

Company policy as it relates to personal conveyance supercedes law. I.e. Company policy can be more restrictive, as is the case with my company.

[@MrHhill2001]

This dude is correct

[@jasonrappold4719]

Then the company is crap

[@mayyouprosper8140]

The company is breaking the law.

[@davidc.w.2908]

Just stay on property. They might call the police. You then explain to the police what happened. If the police tell you to move, ask for name and badge number and put that into your log as the reason you had to use personal conveyance.

[@legionofanon]

If police show up, request an officer with DOT certification. Then let that officer make the call, and if he says you stay for your 10h everyone else can eat crow

[@younglove3362]

You all are forgetting that he's on private property. They're legally able to kick him out.

[@legionofanon]

@@younglove3362 true, but in the process you still cannot violate hours of operations to comply with being kicked out. You are forgetting that the DOT gives no ducks and if you violate the logbook rules you can be/ will be shutdown right where you are caught and maybe even arrested depending on the violations. In the end, no matter what, if you can't pc because of shitty company policy, do not move without written order from a DOT officer.

[@davidc.w.2908]

@@younglove3362 You are forgetting they let the truck driver on their property. Once a driver runs out of the clock, they cannot kick him out. They most likely won’t call the police because they will get a ticket.

[@younglove3362]

@davidc.w.2908 And you're forgetting that the driver is on private property. If the owner wants him off, he has to go. Hours or no hours. That's why the personal conveyance is there.

[@Trtrucking79]

Happened to me.. I called the company I’m leased to and informed them that my tablet screen went black.. then they use paper logs til it’s fixed… I just needed to hear the words use paper logs..🤷

[@masontheworldtraveler3098]

Learn cyber security and work from home be with your wife and kids shower whenever you want unlike otr

[@oldyoung1]

Facts

[@timexcape7961]

Also 4 year degree, internships, personal projects, networking. Might as well be a criminal, there are no jobs.

[@masontheworldtraveler3098]

@@timexcape7961 I know many people that don't have a degree that's in the field you need experience and certifications

[@licktin1091]

Are you stupid? Cybersecurity is a very competitive field. Plus a 4 year degree costs a lot of money. Also good luck with networking. If you don’t like otr, do local or regional. Not everyone can do remote

[@charlesdada6434]

Elon's gonna bring infinity pajeets at $9/hour to take those jobs. Also, if you call your bank or insurance company, a pajeets is the one answering the phone call from overseas

[@kc5mzd]

Split sleeper is a great tool for cases like this. If you take a 5hr off duty none of it counts against the clock if you had a 7hr sleeper during the break before or after the 5hr off duty.

[@Afrodza]

Thanks for the informative information

[@TruckHaulinTalks]

Great information. The mileage limit by companies may be an insurance coverage precaution. Thanks for posting.

[@shaun2318]

Va State Police told me I can’t use PC to advance a load even if going to a restaurant or my home is on the way. He said I would have to return to the spot I started my PC and go from there. That was loaded or empty

[@mikeb4168]

He could have edited his log to show on arrival on duty 10min comment- "drop load in doc"k, then go on sleeper berth show comment as"trailer disconnected", 2 hr`s will pause clock, then when secutity requested to move go on PC show as run "errands", then when he gets a call back from security sayig box is empty , go back hook empty then go on duty- comment "pre-trip ispection, hook empty, the whole time clock would have been paused..,now there might be several variations to this example but When I sit get unloaded always stop the clock, Manage your time,. ,

[@patmurray1076]

CALL THE POLICE ASAP!!!

[@benkok02]

Did go from North Dakota to east texas on pc with trailer no problems with two inspections by Poe. No problems at all if you know the rules and be polite to officer.

[@MichaelYariel]

How about if you are Bobtail, going home or to take truck to a shop?

[@jonathansimmons3731]

Fatigue is your limit if you have your own authority

[@DavidW-p2k]

This is the problem because companies policy go against federal law and shipping receiving policy

[@NolocoLawrence]

I kind of know this. The problem that doesn't seem to have a resolution is when you're working for a local company or I mean it doesn't necessarily have to be it could be corporate and they route you in such a way That if you were to stop to get fuel or if you needed to use the restroom. You have so many stops and anything outside of that and if it's an accident it doesn't matter they don't seem to understand that you need to provide more time for getting back. Because otherwise you don't have personal conveyance or just when you run out of hours. So you might be like an hour or 30 minutes or 20 minutes from the yard but now you're SOL. That's that's something we need some sort of personal conveyance for

[@puppswarm6682]

Guidance: No, except for the one exception described in Guidance Question 26 to 49 CFR 395.8 where a driver who runs out of hours while at a shipper’s or receiver’s facility may drive from that facility to a nearby, safe location to park, provided that the driver allows adequate time to obtain rest in accordance with daily minimum off-duty periods under the Hours of Service rules before beginning to drive. Personal conveyance is those times where a driver is operating solely for a non-business purpose and cannot be used to extend the duty day

[@irri4662]

Unplug

[@bp218]

Do it all the time !! Then hit reject for unknown driver!!! Passed inspection 3 times!! One time I did sweat it because I had to send logs to dot car . Dude came back and said have a nice day!!

[@dondunham9287]

If I'm delayed by the customer or traffic from getting to safe parking, I flag it, usually consult safety, then PC then explain in remarks. It's rare and not used to advance loads anymore than the first available safe parking. Haven't had trouble yet.

[@allgasnobrakes123]

I’m at Prime and we get one hour of PC per day. If you abuse it, you lose it period. Most of these drivers have lost their PC privileges per their company and just aren’t being honest about it. Yes, it is completely legal but as you said, drivers have to comply to company policy. That driver should have been able to PC to a truck stop and put in the note safe parking or truck stop, something like that.

[@TruckerRo]

What if you own your truck and you are lease to a company with a truck you own, can the company you're lease to limit your PC distance?? 🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔 I never hear anyone speak nor ask about that one

[@Boxtruckin]

I use “ food & entertainment “ for pc all the time. Just passed a level 2 & level 2 with these

[@davidkeys6192]

When told too leave and you are out of driving hours make the shipper or receiver call the police and have you trespassed and then have the officer sign your logbook making you drive from the property to a safehaven and your covered. If the company kicks back on you for any reason from this trespass then it's money in your bank account when you take them to court.

[@warntheidiotmasses7114]

How come doctors and lawyers don’t have to put up with such horse shite?

[@burgessdaryl8757]

Try this during Blitz week especially in the south, Pennsylvania lol

[@BlockBallerRecords]

Well people downplay the “Chicago Companies “ But I bet you they won’t Fire you for driving all day without a ELD

[@hitman-br9un]

By all means, this is chanel is the ONLY voice for truckers out there. This is great, but as a trucker I feel ashamed as well how disorganized we are. Mother Trucker channel, thank You for being out there and putting so much effort to help your fellow truckers. I sincerely thank You!

[@MuthaTrucker]

appreciate you as well. Thank you for the kind words and always praying for you health, wealth and happiness. Be safe out there driver

[@DARKSEID007]

I know Alex is covering this pretty well with this refresher video, but will give my 2 cents. Some folks may agree, some may not, but so far 17 years of driving, 3 company audits, 1 DOT full company audit & no issues so far. Unfortunately I seen a few people on here that doesn't quite understand how the 8/2 or 7/3 split actually works. (This won't help to get you extra driving time like the agricultural 16hr rule, which extends driving time due to weather & safe haven conditions / once a week only) As long as you've gone off duty or sleeper birth for a minimum of 2 hours & have your tab set to go to the split setting, you're able to get your clock to stop at whatever time that you went off duty, it will stop counting, technically & will not begin until you start driving once again or go on duty. (Yes you may see it still counting down but as soon as the 2-hour Mark hits, it will give back that 2 hours automatically to your time along with the remaining part of that day and stops) (It can be used multiple days) You use the remaining time for that day, take an 8-hour break & then whatever time you used previously, up to going off duty, to do that split, you gain back for the next morning or you can do a full 10 hour to completely reset. (This is how some folks are able to deliver loads on time, if they get stuck in an accident or traffic & such, just gotta decide if you want the 2hr break to get that lost time back) Another major sticking point, if you are not (PHYSICALLY) unloading that trailer, you (DO NOT) have to be in the unloading line. Log it 15-30 mins and go off-duty. (Some companies are A-holes& want you on that line especially for LTL, but again, only if YOU are unloading it, it has to be on-duty) PC can be used as long as you are not advancing your load, whether it be for mileage or starting point or physically loading. This is why no touch freight is nice. If you do happen to be kicked off of a property you can PC away from there go do your 10 hour (if needed) or the remaining time needed to drive legally, then return to the property, whether it be at the gate or at the roadway near the gate safely, to where you can begin your day. As long as you're pretty well within a few hundred feet of the facility, then you're legally staying within the rules for PC conveyance.

[@DD20248]

For those of us driving otr,going home on PC 1200 miles from a so called drop lot is not an option as a company driver.Just think of the cost in fuel.

[@travishanson166]

So no more "advancing the load " clause?

[@johnnycray4427]

We have to SUE (class action lawsuit) the federal government; for not working with us, & leaving too much grey area for P.C, not providing adequate parking, & unfair business practices

[@troninawiggins49]

This is complete bs... I feel horrible for the driver

[@elvissboh]

Good video. Thanks

[@dft28740]

Basically you can use it If you dont advance the load but with these fuel prices it only makes sense to do so also its ok as long as youre not getting paid

[@younuschowhan5436]

I am a single driver of my own company ( authority ) once I used PC miles from Albany NY to Binghamton NY which is about 160 miles and motive eld company dropped my reading.

[@tc3354]

That’s some bull 💩

[@Trucker4Life84]

I mostly drive for small companies but majority of them always tell me to drive on PC and usually give me feedback when I tell them no. After some time I'll leave because I won't jeopardize my license for the sake of an extra hour.

[@oloubabee]

You can only use PC to get to the nears safety haven.

[@ak_getright9905]

Wrong, did you even watch the video?

[@jeffarmstrong2920]

I have told you many times before that legend transport tells us to use it all the time to deliver and or go to pick up a load then once out of hrs they say use it to a truck stop next to you after all that

[@Zemohc]

So. The situation that driver was in. He should have urged the security guard to call the company to figure it out. Policy says he has to stay put.

[@mrthomas3996]

This happens every day and it’s bull 💩

[@BNastty3]

I just experience this exactly situation Friday at my delivery🤦🏾

[@michaelskaggs2299]

Then why is it an option

[@vaskodalaverataoriginalanew]

He can absolutely legal go to the safest parking there is nothing to discuss

[@Jeff-kj3mk]

I have an ELD exempt truck use paper logs.I run SAFELY on my own terms.If im tired i take a nap otherwise i drive.I dont need the DOT telling me when to drive,rest ,go to the bathroom, etc......

[@SENSUI347]

HOW CAN I GET AN EXEMPT 🛻

[@AirlineswatcherGoodluckhere]

This has to stop this really needs to stop if you cant pc and they take 5hours ro unload this is getting out of control

[@craigspencer4306]

What about PC limits on distance to rest area or truck stop after unloading?

[@edwinjoya8736]

Not in California. U can't go from Las Vegas Nevada 2 San Bernardino CA with an empty trailer using PC. California DOT on DOT I 15 South said that No! U can not cross state line

[@kevinernst8493]

Im glad to see someone reads rules. Problem i see is somebody could utilize that time to extend hours. Why a person would move a load for free is crazy but we do live in a crazy world. Fuel is expensive im not going to do the math on cost of 1200 miles doing a pc

[@mudpuddle8805]

My company is way stricter than DOT regulations. I cannot PC when attached to a company trailer for any reason.

[@lordvader_lllgaming6273]

Walmart did this to me before as well trrated to call the police

[@SLYHATER71]

Company policy does not go against federal law. This driver should be allowed to PC. What is PC for then ?

[@Brett235]

People need to realize that these businesses are on private property. It wasn't the driver's fault that he ran out of hours, it's his company that is responsible for ensuring that he will not be fired for finding a secure and proper place to stay. If they fired him for leaving the property out of hours then he has a case.

[@XxTiwaterxX]

PC causes problems...in violation of hours to to nearest rest spot can be dealt with the logs department...drive safe.. Amen PC was used for after the load is complete, to bobtail to Walmart to get supplies..that was in 2018 tho🤔