Trucking Industry Truth - The ATA is NOT About the Truck Driver

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@DanH88
@DanH88 5 жыл бұрын
Further proof of what you said not long ago, "Trucking is a dirty business." Thanks to your fine videos I managed to stay out of it and am very grateful I did.
@michaelyaromich491
@michaelyaromich491 5 жыл бұрын
We need people like you in office someone who knows the trucking industry and experienced
@misterjag
@misterjag 5 жыл бұрын
The ATA provides lobbying and media relations for the biggest trucking companies. Not infrequently their interests don't coincide with that of independents or even small fleets.
@donquixote...
@donquixote... 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the review... The translation from a seasoned, experienced driver is priceless.
@tommyreed4220
@tommyreed4220 5 жыл бұрын
ATA is a corporate lobbyists.Great video!
@kenriley2471
@kenriley2471 5 жыл бұрын
I don't know about present day but when I got out of the military there was big tax breaks for companys hiring ex military. as soon I showed swift my DD214 I was hired for 20 cents a mile. I don't know how big the tax break was but I wouldn't be surprised if it was more than my annual pay at the time.
@haroldclark4547
@haroldclark4547 5 жыл бұрын
These videos have helped me so much...thank you good sir
@denisewhite5923
@denisewhite5923 5 жыл бұрын
SAD! No respect for us drivers!
@robertl.fallin7062
@robertl.fallin7062 5 жыл бұрын
It dont take long for drivers to get the skinny on the ATA, that it is a lobbying arm of the tricking companys! (not a typo!)
@notgivingoutname8976
@notgivingoutname8976 5 жыл бұрын
I despise the AtA. Also, an 18 yr old flying a plane usually has 4 yrs of training in high school plus military training. Even though I believe he is lying about her age... If people don't wanna be truck drivers at 21, why would they at 18?
@MrOverfloater
@MrOverfloater 5 жыл бұрын
They might want it, because they're younger and stupider.
@GrandmasterFU666
@GrandmasterFU666 5 жыл бұрын
I believe that an 18 year old can steer an aircraft carrier. If the 18 year old makes a mistake the bridge is full of officers that will correct her/ his mistake instantly. If a driver makes a mistake in a truck it results in injury or worse death. I cant stand those that manipulate the truth for self gain.
@JeepCherokeeful
@JeepCherokeeful 5 жыл бұрын
I’m no sailor but I seriously doubt there’s currently a single Master Mariner, Unlimited Tonnage, of as young as age 18 in the entire world. So I’m gonna call at guy a Master Bullshitter. Maneuvering a ship for a while can’t be that hard, just like flying;) but performing a landing, or navigating during a storm with other ships nearby, not so much.
@josephboley
@josephboley 5 жыл бұрын
The voice of the truckers comes from the mouth of the men and women who are behind the wheel. Stay safe out there and take care my friend. ✌👍🚛🚛🚛🚛🙏🙏✌👍
@ANDREASRIAL
@ANDREASRIAL 5 жыл бұрын
Words of wisdom, thanks. (Not just truckers, all the industries want profit and forget about the standard of living for the family, towns, states and country, with the ultimate goal of the human race.
@tuckerwilliams6816
@tuckerwilliams6816 5 жыл бұрын
Great topic Dave.
@andrewbateman111
@andrewbateman111 5 жыл бұрын
The reason they are targeting the military is they have a proven track record for work under extreme conditions for little pay. ATA and the mega carriers want them because they think they are already conditioned to work long hours without complaining and will accept their pay schedule, thinking they have gotten a raise from what Uncle Sam was paying them.
@ericleger8158
@ericleger8158 5 жыл бұрын
Remember when we used to say on the CB... "see you on the flip-flop" ?
@jamesbenedict7206
@jamesbenedict7206 5 жыл бұрын
10-4 good buddy!
@mumbleIntel
@mumbleIntel 5 жыл бұрын
Funny icecream story. Thanks 😊
@robertmoulton2656
@robertmoulton2656 5 жыл бұрын
They let a 18 woman drive a aircraft carrier.....in the middle of a big Ocean!
@JeepCherokeeful
@JeepCherokeeful 5 жыл бұрын
Trucking is already past the point of gone
@richardmiseljr2413
@richardmiseljr2413 5 жыл бұрын
I used to drive truck and at NO TIME did the ata represent me.! But they sure as hell sold me out to the criminal traitors.!
@daye3371
@daye3371 5 жыл бұрын
Every word you said was the truth!!
@somaalitruckershow3306
@somaalitruckershow3306 5 жыл бұрын
U a always bringing great info thanks alot sir
@gailjohnson6670
@gailjohnson6670 5 жыл бұрын
You tell it like it is..Thank you for the video..
@johnbante5594
@johnbante5594 5 жыл бұрын
And this is just one of the several reasons I quit trucking......at least until I found this gig with a small mom and pop sawmill hauling logs part time and paid by the hour
@MartyStamour-kf3hv
@MartyStamour-kf3hv 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you.
@DIYTRUCKREPAIR
@DIYTRUCKREPAIR 5 жыл бұрын
Good thinking. All these organizations just against to real professional driver. ATA, OOIDA, and etc.
@mmtruckingllc657
@mmtruckingllc657 5 жыл бұрын
I vote you to be the ATA.... I don't care if you don't know your way around Washington,,,, who cares, you know trucking and that's what counts! Trucking now day's is a train wreck!
@MidNightOwlSS
@MidNightOwlSS 5 жыл бұрын
Prime Inc got simulators they put the newbies in for 1 week, I think if they increased that to 4 weeks it could be beneficial but there is no teacher like real life experience
@AlbertMaruggi
@AlbertMaruggi 5 жыл бұрын
LaMar Prime at least mandates at least 30k miles could be up to 50k in team training. Now I know Dave rightly says that’s not training, it’s team driving, true but it’s a check I’m throwing a newbie on the road after X hours on a video game.
@r.d.9399
@r.d.9399 5 жыл бұрын
No mega companies training is good. The government must abolish carriers training people. It must be stopped for the safety of the American people.
@TheCalgarydoug
@TheCalgarydoug 5 жыл бұрын
Watch the TV show "higheway through hell" and it's clear that some drivers did not learn enough in school to be on the road by themselves. I've said for years that truckers should go through an apprentice program like any trade.
@conleycroom8813
@conleycroom8813 4 жыл бұрын
Great commentary sir
@SmartTrucking
@SmartTrucking 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@Sapper201D
@Sapper201D 5 жыл бұрын
That 18 year old had a shit tonne of PQS's and OJT indeed before standing that watch. This dude is the ish.
@mlchaelgiles5306
@mlchaelgiles5306 5 жыл бұрын
The Ata is like the AARP, they are not there for truck drivers benefit, just as the AARP is not there for Senior's, they only benefit the elitist, and non trucking knowledgeable owners of these big Truck Companies. Trucking is one of the Industries where pay, wages have gone down, and are continuing to decrease with each passing year. MG owner-op
@nolanshockley7674
@nolanshockley7674 5 жыл бұрын
Get ‘em Dave!
@plilerinternational4103
@plilerinternational4103 5 жыл бұрын
Love your work!!
@samdeel2777
@samdeel2777 5 жыл бұрын
Love the videos. In one video you mentioned you were at the truck show in louisville ky. Any chance you may be there next year? Just got into driving and would love the chance to get to meet you.
@porkchop359
@porkchop359 5 жыл бұрын
It's all about MONEY and how to screw and scam the trucking industry
@aaronsanborn4291
@aaronsanborn4291 5 жыл бұрын
The ATA is definitely NOT the the voice of the trucker
@shamansean7593
@shamansean7593 5 жыл бұрын
Let me add concerning the aircraft carrier “driver”: she’s got an ocean to navigate. Truckers have narrow pathways to navigate. And you can bet she’s not at the helm going into port.
@danmekeel7758
@danmekeel7758 5 жыл бұрын
Great breakdown about man behind the Curtain.
@Flunkerdunk
@Flunkerdunk 5 жыл бұрын
Conducting operations on a Nimitz class ship is a lot different than driving a Class-A tractor-trailer. On a Nimitz class aircraft carrier, you are not the only one operating that vessel. You are one of around six thousand crewmembers aboard that ship. You have been training with bridge crew in hands on experience. You are not going to eventually "go out on your own" when you are done training. You will continue to take orders from senior staff. You do not have to rub the dock by youself nor do you have to worry about traffic that often. You do your trip planning while in motion and most of the piloting is automated. You punch in global positioning coordinates and it takes you roughly to where you need to go. If trucking gives you an automated truck that takes you to the parking lot of the shipper while you just sit in a seat and plan where you want the automated truck to go on a road without hardly any traffic, while you have a trainer ready to help you forever, and when you get to the loading dock a group of guys run over to your trailer and dock your truck for you... then yes, they would be the same. I have family that were logistics in the army, driving HEMETTs (twenty wheeler flatbeds). They did this at eighteen years old and told me many times of situations where they almost died or killed others. They were young and dumb. The training may have helped them recover from the mistakes they made before they hurt somebody, but the training did not put fear into them to not have an incident happen in the first place. Sidenote: This is a hands on job, get rid of this classroom crap, seriously. It only confuses drivers when they get out on the road. Train the HOS and Federal laws in the classroom, backing and turns in an actual truck.
@ringlerum
@ringlerum 5 жыл бұрын
Great very informative video. Thank you, I love hearing nothing but truth from you. And this new leader of the ATA is talking to all these grown up men who are truck drivers, like they are hildren and believe in fairytales
@bumstead1383
@bumstead1383 5 жыл бұрын
We lost control to corporate political agendas and corrupt DC politicians. Sad and idk if we can or will ever gain ANY back.
@angeloantonio5483
@angeloantonio5483 4 жыл бұрын
Those automatics dont look safe either. Maybe im wrong,
@truckerdaddy-akajohninqueb4793
@truckerdaddy-akajohninqueb4793 5 жыл бұрын
There are two sides to the debate. Company and independent drivers. Trucker's Coach and other IOs who seem to be against HOS and breaks. Break up the 10 hour break. Drive til you drop and be allowed to too. I'm over generalizing. And then there's folks like me. I like HOS and regulations and ELDs. Why? It protects me from greedy owners who want me to cheat cheat cheat. The first dumbass I worked for coached me how to cheat paper logs, then used to telephone me at 7 am asking me why I was not on the road when I had parked at 11pm the night before. Just my opinion.
@AlbertMaruggi
@AlbertMaruggi 5 жыл бұрын
Amazing! Sad and amazing!! And they can pay 18 year olds even less.
@rrosajr1
@rrosajr1 5 жыл бұрын
FACTS!!!
@russellberry9156
@russellberry9156 5 жыл бұрын
This helps explain why i now hate driving and will be leaving driving a truck, carrying with me a bad taste and nothing good to say about trucking. In less than ten years truck driving has gotten more micro management and independence is all but vanished. Technology and automation are killing a once decent career choice. If you’re considering becoming a trucker, you should first consider going fishing and then become a rodeo clown. You won’t get the clown job because those people are highly specialized in their craft and it’s EXTREMELY hazardous. Keep on fishing. Your ideas of being an otr (over-the-road), or line haul driver are wasted. The industry is no longer growing as it once did. The industry is now becoming hyper systematized, automated and skewered by huge companies buying tens of thousands of fleet-spec trucks having no regard for the driver. That fleet spec’d truck is a one size fits all assembly and typically the person paying the bill has never had a CDL. Therefore doesn’t know what a comfortable driver would be sitting in. ANYONE the mega company can find that is not a driver they’ll hire, train for a CDL & indenture. They can save millions in low payout all day because there’s no more need of excellent drivers. The big companies want trailers moved. America is sliced up into smaller regions for company planning convenience. The fleet/driver/planner managers have a sword over their heads too. Keep drivers mileage as low as possible by fabricating a chart of average weekly mileages and don’t ever reveal the actual prices of shipping per state and zip code miles. What short the driver out of odometer miles by paying zip code zone miles!? Pride in the workforce is quickly dying out. Company drivers are no longer respected as they once were. Owner/Operators are being regulated out of business. Ruthless big public traded companies with unwashed board-of-directors & shareholder seats that demand bonuses care nothing about drivers, you or America. They want their trailerloads of “Made in China” product delivered at a specific gate without consideration for Hours-of-Service the drivers are required to observe. That means fewer miles, less pay, less time at home, more drivers at less skills and more untrained, hazardous drivers doing more menial micromanaged equipment movement. I tried training some drivers. Companies don’t want trained drivers. They want trailers delivered. Good-bye America.
@Peterbilt-vr8cw
@Peterbilt-vr8cw 5 жыл бұрын
I wish one day trucking will go back to the old days it’s a shame how these government politicians and large mega carriers have ruined a once good I industry
@kevinmcgee9209
@kevinmcgee9209 5 жыл бұрын
He should ride with a OTR driver for 3 weeks and see what he thinks about what driver deal with he should also be up when the driver is up and sleep when the driver sleeps
@josh33025
@josh33025 5 жыл бұрын
I would imagine the doors flew open with force and thats what knocked him down with a good headache afterwards.
@deanlabbe9952
@deanlabbe9952 5 жыл бұрын
Dave why would the spokes person for the ATA need any truck driving experiance? Theres nobody in Washington DC that knows anything about anything so he fits right in. Truth be known there probably are not a lot of people at the top of these mega carriers that could start a big truck let alone drive it. His story about the 18 year old driving the ship is a bit suspicious. Why would she even be up in the bridge? At that age she would hardly be qualified to swab the decks, let alone have had any essential training. That dude is a know nothing with a gift of slinging B/S to others that know nothing about driving a truck either.
@cindytepper8878
@cindytepper8878 5 жыл бұрын
Old timers I knew back in the late 70's and early 80's who owned companies (some with hundreds of trucks) could put a trailer in the tightest dock, hop on a forklift and load the trailer, and not only change a tire, but break down a tube type with a hammer and bars, patch the tube and the tire, mount it back up and put it back on the truck using nothing but hand tools.
@kfstreich4787
@kfstreich4787 5 жыл бұрын
I'm not sure you ever respond but I'll give it a shot. I'm considering a 90s Pete 379 worn out needs everything, I can fix all with interwebs help, I'm experienced in fixing but the details I may need help with. I'd love to have a 120" sleeper I can build out myself as needed, where would I find such an old monster? No need for a home, I live in a van and need to move to profit, I've run (farm) tractors and heavy pickups. I'll inframe it if I need to, just don't want debt or "handcuffs" no desire for pain, thanks for all the advice!
@davebullock3517
@davebullock3517 5 жыл бұрын
I could easily be wrong, but didn’t that ice cream come out of Peterborough? When I was at Canyon, I think that was where I loaded it. Bill, the dispatcher in Calgary, gave me the condensed version, of the ice cream running out when the guy opened the doors, story Followed by, so make sure you check your *#@&’n load. 😆
@donquixote...
@donquixote... 5 жыл бұрын
I believe it's a distortion, but on Wall Street, the mega carriers are referred to as, "the truckers".
@kevinpolito1529
@kevinpolito1529 5 жыл бұрын
In many if not most businesses, people in management have never worked in the rank-and-file, actually making the products or delivering the services. If the workers went on strike, nobody in management would know how to work on the line. All they know is what they learned in their MBA coursework. And these people who have no hands-on experience in any trade are calling the shots for the millions of people who actually make the products and deliver the services that provide the revenue that makes it possible for the company to exist. In some European countries they used to have the royalty and the peasants. In the USA, these two classes are called management and labor.
@SmartTrucking
@SmartTrucking 5 жыл бұрын
It's an amazing system we have, isn't it? Dave
@williamrichardsonwhr9767
@williamrichardsonwhr9767 5 жыл бұрын
Without driving experience how can he help truck drivers? How does he even know what truckers need?
@63stratoman
@63stratoman 5 жыл бұрын
The 18-year old girl “driving the ship” is merely holding the wheel making little if no critical decisions on her own! She holds the wheel straight and turns when she is told to!
@derekayers4622
@derekayers4622 5 жыл бұрын
That why the should make the president of the ATA get in a truck for a week and pass the CDL test down his own and see how he does
@kevinlesch9656
@kevinlesch9656 5 жыл бұрын
That's why I never want to drive a refeer. I'd worry about that temp way too much.
@patryk2497
@patryk2497 5 жыл бұрын
Kevin Lesch story of my life. The worst is when they load warm produce and the customer is giving you a hard time about the temp when the product came hot from Mexico and was being cooled for two days in my trailer. Reefer goes crazy when they load up warm
@williamkesler2373
@williamkesler2373 5 жыл бұрын
Makes me wonder why they weren’t carrying the ice cream in sealed containers. I’m not a driver, but I would think all food products should be in some sort of closed container to prevent exactly this
@intothelight11
@intothelight11 5 жыл бұрын
Hung it up in 2012, had my own mc number real o/o. Trucking is done for a man.
@stevenh.9535
@stevenh.9535 5 жыл бұрын
I've been a local box truck delivery driver for years now and always thought about getting into big rigs but when I hear about stuff like this it makes me wonder if it's even a good idea to get into it and just stay where I'm at even though I could use better money. I mean good grief my luck I would start driving an 18-wheeler and then trucking companies would start transitioning to autonomous trucks.
@DeannaBaileytheRavensFan
@DeannaBaileytheRavensFan 5 жыл бұрын
Someone with no experience is somehow being the "voice of American truckers"... 😂😂😂
@jerryfogle4811
@jerryfogle4811 5 жыл бұрын
Larry Knight head of the ATA ENOUGH said right there!!!
@mylifematters858
@mylifematters858 5 жыл бұрын
A supervised 18 year old girl with half a year or more of intensive training piloting a ship in the middle of the ocean isn’t the same as a teenager with 3 weeks of classroom experience at some ghetto truck driver school piloting an 80 thousand pound vehicle solo on the interstate in traffic and weather around a bunch of sketchy people in smaller vehicles
@phillipgarrow2297
@phillipgarrow2297 5 жыл бұрын
Your going to see a lot of drivers with little experience running over the road because with the money they pay nobody with experience will do it and a lot of experience drivers will walk away from it they don't want to put up with all the distractions from people on there phones and tablets driving local or running gravel trains there are a lot more commercial trucks getting in wrecks because of lack of experience or driving around other distracted cars
@masonhenry9745
@masonhenry9745 5 жыл бұрын
A very small percentage of veterans stay in for 20 years. Most of us aren't receiving a pension. The mega carriers like hiring veterans because of the tax break, they can get a year of our Post 9/11 benefits under bullshit apprenticeship programs, and we're some of the few people who can handle the bullshit of driving these trucks cross country. This will be my last year doing OTR and I will be looking for a local by the hour trucking job in the DFW area while my applications go through the police departments in the area. P.S. Not bitching but you are right they do hope to hire people with pensions and with no children to get back to. It's very rare to find someone my age doing this who speaks fluent English.
@dandan3147
@dandan3147 5 жыл бұрын
Throw enough $hit at the wall, soon enough, some of it will stick. ATA Backed recruitment strategy. SSDD
@Black.dynamite-
@Black.dynamite- 5 жыл бұрын
They seem to forget about the damn insurance it's really what the insurance company wants as far as the 18 year olds The ice cream story reminds me of hauling asphalt long story short a fella forgot to shut the pump off and close the dome as he was done with getting loaded anyways he was jack jawing and it shot out of the dome almost like a tidal wave he re paved the trailer truck and loading rack haha
@angrytrucker3628
@angrytrucker3628 5 жыл бұрын
Theres a lot less traffic in the middle of the ocean than there is on the highways.
@cascivic
@cascivic 5 жыл бұрын
Plus when a company takes a new vet I believe there background gi bill money that goes to the carrier...
@Theoneaboveandbelow
@Theoneaboveandbelow 5 жыл бұрын
Hahahaha, nice ending sir.
@joshsuperduty1270
@joshsuperduty1270 5 жыл бұрын
Hey Dave , ever information n would buy a used Mack or new Mack truck
@TheTruelakersfan
@TheTruelakersfan 2 жыл бұрын
The ATA recently sent a letter to the Fmsca saying that the truckers and the ATA back them n these new self driving trucks 😠
@deathproof8732
@deathproof8732 5 жыл бұрын
The only voice of trucking I listen to is my own. (And sometimes my wife when we need extra money)
@sonboogie
@sonboogie 5 жыл бұрын
You are dead on. The corporate machine certainly has it's grasp on the trucking industry. The ATA is the biggest scam going.
@waynesworld2086
@waynesworld2086 5 жыл бұрын
Because the military breaks your ass down in boot camp and AIT with disapline and self respect and motivation and properly trains and individual for the job and WILL NOT cut anybody loose till they master the job plus like you said early n video they are surrounded by other PROFESSIONALS, here n truck industry is NOTHING like that lol
@denisomerovic9054
@denisomerovic9054 5 жыл бұрын
They should have given you the job. One issue tho you are “over-qualified”.
@hardknott
@hardknott 5 жыл бұрын
Ha! Driver was hauling a milkshake 🤣
@rodneypattonsr3179
@rodneypattonsr3179 5 жыл бұрын
Red Sovine, Merle Haggard and today Tony Justice, that's who are the true voices of Any trucker. American, Canadian or other wise.
@marcw5288
@marcw5288 5 жыл бұрын
Anti Truckdriver Association is what it is
@angeloantonio5483
@angeloantonio5483 4 жыл бұрын
just like hoffa jr. Lawyer for the companies for 20 years LOL LOL LOL
@rolling3868
@rolling3868 5 жыл бұрын
What a idiot's, hope we don't hear about another accident like the one on Colorado. 🙏🙏good video Mr. Dave.
@dafirnz
@dafirnz 5 жыл бұрын
They want veterans to sign up for jobs so they can access their GI Bill money for "training". Just imagine how excited companies would get if they could turn their training programs into a profit center.
@prevost8686
@prevost8686 5 жыл бұрын
Very similar to how big retailers like Walmart and others love to hire handicapped people (such as wheelchair bound) to get the massive incentives and then work them so few hours they finally quit.
@anthonyroberts2678
@anthonyroberts2678 5 жыл бұрын
ATA Anti Trucking Association!!
5 жыл бұрын
The ATA is a fake voice of truckers. They have been in bed with the large carriers since day 1. That's why all the shit they come out with ALWAYS favors the large carriers. How can the voice of truckers be heard threw someone who hasn't even been in a truck in his whole life? How idiotic is that? It's like a trainee training new trainees like swift does. The blind leading the blind. I would trust average joe trucker over anyone who claims to be a lieing politician
@fatalritte1550
@fatalritte1550 5 жыл бұрын
The real question is if they not helping trucking, what do you think they doing with that money... I drove limousines and charter buses for the 1% for a while. I know what they’re doing with it!
@cassiuspuckett8789
@cassiuspuckett8789 5 жыл бұрын
She must have lied about her age when she went to boot camp then. Because you have to be 18 to go to boot camp, plus if she was an ensign, she had at least 4 yrs collage, and at least a year at Annapolis officer training school. So no I don't think she was 18......
@NoName-tz5ji
@NoName-tz5ji 5 жыл бұрын
Cassius Puckett I was 17 and didn’t lie. Where do get your info from, CNN or MSNBC? Lol
@mitchellanstett5219
@mitchellanstett5219 5 жыл бұрын
AI trucks will still need a driver in the seat for liability. Most passenger jets now can take off and land all by themselves but they still require a pilot in the seat. There are a LOT more variables on highways and especially in busy cities. The second a 40 ton automated truck kills a family of five it will be on national news. The driver isn't going anywhere anytime soon
@RayT70
@RayT70 5 жыл бұрын
❤🙏👍
@BillySwarthout
@BillySwarthout 5 жыл бұрын
ATA IS A BIG JOKE.
@poppapips7493
@poppapips7493 5 жыл бұрын
Its American TRUCKING Association not Trucker association ....big difference.
@misterstaple
@misterstaple 5 жыл бұрын
I'm ok with 18 year olds being allowed to drive... But they and other new drivers need more training. Too often the provide almost no training and then blame the new drivers for accidents...
@bigeric8334
@bigeric8334 5 жыл бұрын
Its the otr guys faults they will drive for penniesso they dont have to unload freight by themselves.
@markofexcellence5209
@markofexcellence5209 5 жыл бұрын
I would have liked the age requirement to be 18, but I know plenty of peers that would have been in no position to be behind an 18 wheeler. I can’t imagine the demand is there to make it worth their while. When I decided on trucking, I ran the numbers. The pay has to be high to make it worth my while and thankfully there’s some companies that pay quite well for relatively little work experience. When you’re my age (21), you have to consider that the truck driving profession may very well be automated by the time I am middle-aged. That’s something I’m planning for accordingly and just reinforcing the general importance of investing.
@johnbante5594
@johnbante5594 5 жыл бұрын
And the story this guy tells about the 18 year old and the aircraft carrier is nonsensical
@TNTN1977
@TNTN1977 5 жыл бұрын
Never trusted the ATA
@danielbowman4758
@danielbowman4758 5 жыл бұрын
Omg haha I feel sorry for the guy but that's funny
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