Trucks vs Trains - Too Many Accidents!

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6 ай бұрын

Trucks versus Trains… There’s been way too many. A look at the Bindarrah SA truck train crash on New Year’s Day and the similarities and differences to the Kerang train disaster back in 2007 that killed 11 and seriously injured 23. Plus three more truck train crashes.
As truck drivers, we are responsible for the safe operation of our vehicles, no matter the circumstances, it’s on us.
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@ad_2211
@ad_2211 6 ай бұрын
As you said this is middle of nowhere, no external visual distractions whatsoever so how could you miss a train!? Sounds like he was trying to outrace the train barring a medical episode.
@interceptor7905
@interceptor7905 6 ай бұрын
I am train driver and I can tell you the problem is people not obeying road signs and ignoring trains when they are approaching!You not gonna beat that train believe me!
@Tonyzipporah
@Tonyzipporah 6 ай бұрын
A good reminder Rob for all us to take extra care, its too late after the fact, well worth the time you have taken to produce this clip. Well done .
@garrywoods159
@garrywoods159 6 ай бұрын
Well said Rob.👍 Unfortunately there’s a million and one reasons / factors that happen with these crashes and it all happens in a split second - RIP to the drivers / passengers that passed away in all of the crashes, let’s just hope we learn something from it and take the necessary precautions to prevent it from happening again.
@dionchandler2658
@dionchandler2658 6 ай бұрын
Rob, Thank You. For the record, I am a Train Driver, and one that is based in Port Augusta, although not with Pacific National (it won't be hard to work out who with). A couple of other incidents that weren't mentioned, also occurred in 2023, fortunately unlike the New Years Eve day incident, didn't result in loss of life. Any loss of life is tragic, irrespective of wether it is the truck driver(s) or train driver(s), and they should be avoidable. In 2023 in March, there was a significant Rail Level Crossing (RLX) collision at Junee, a train with four locomotives. One locomotive declared a write off, one being repaired, and two not yet have had there fates determined, although the longer it lingers, the more likely it is they will be written off. In June there was the RLX incident at Katherine, Florina Road. Florina Road I'm very familiar with, as Darwin has been my regular route. From that collision, both locomotives were written off, a crew car (that resting drivers sleep in) was also written off. Four drivers that I work with were all hospitalised, albeit released the following day, with the most severely injured (the one driving) only returned to work in early November. On that occasion, the truck went past a RLX pre-warning sign with flashing signals, then through the lowered gates with flashing signals and bells. It wouldn't be of any surprise from the Bindarrah incident, that both locomotives are write offs and will be cut up on site. Alone in 2023 resulting from RLX incidents, there have been five locomotives written off, and depending upon the fate of the remaining two from Junee, that could be seven locomotives written off. Of course, for locomotives and rollingstock, they can be repaired if economically viable to do so, or replaced with new. Injured or deceased drivers, not so easy to replace. It takes a significant amount of time to train and qualify a train driver. The same applies in this paragraph if the rail related terminology is replaced by road transport terminology. You're right, in that RLX's Australia wide are a fact of life that we have to live with. Trains cannot do much to avoid collisions, at most a bit of speed can be washed off, but cannot alter course off the rails. It has been a very sombre week here in Port Augusta, both rail operators use the same yard, and whilst we wear different logo's on our shirts, this has drawn us closer. I'm at a loss as to why RLX collisions still occur, the consequences are well known by all, there is sufficient education out there, ads on TV, ads that come up on social media, road side billboard signs. I can only hope this 10 minutes of video can assist in educating people to do the right things at RLX's. Other than the Pilbara, for the remainder of Australia, trains are a maximum of 1800m long, and at 100km/h, (as in the case of Katherine and Bindarrah) the train is through in approx 100 seconds. Thanks for your time Rob and keep up the good work, I enjoy your video's as always, this one just hits home a little harder.
@vincentdunne7197
@vincentdunne7197 6 ай бұрын
Hi mate as a truckie I know this xing reasonably well and I treat it with respect as I do all xings. Your point is very valid that some of these xings are well signed, but some just are not. I've lost count of the amount of times I've done that xing and no train. Remember we as truck drivers are on our own mostly, sometimes deep in thought and have travelled for hours through the outback without taking to anyone. Ad drivers we get in a groove and at times complacent 💯 % . As trains and trucks move freight surely in this day and age we should be able to call each other on radio to alert our position. My deepest sympathy for your loss mate . Hope all is well good comment.
@dionchandler2658
@dionchandler2658 6 ай бұрын
I have taken my own hand held UHF with me at times, with it on Ch40. It would be interesting to see wether it makes a difference.@@vincentdunne7197
@gm16v149
@gm16v149 6 ай бұрын
What do you think of the high cab- high hood GE4400 and EMD SD70ACe that they use in the Pilbara. They are imported from North America and they were specifically designed in USA to go right through a semi trailer stuck on a crossing giving the train crew a much greater chance of survival. There are lots of truck to train crashes in USA, that’s why they were specifically designed like that. I realise they can’t be used everywhere in Australia because of their height, but they could be used on a double stack container train. The Australian NR Class locomotives have a flat front and have a comparatively low cab compared to their US brethren.
@dionchandler2658
@dionchandler2658 6 ай бұрын
It's not just the height, it's the extra weight of Pilbara locomotives. Maximum axle load on the DIRN (Defined Interstate Rail Network) is 23T, so a six axle loco is 134T max. Pilbara loco's are between 185-200T, which are just to heavy for other than dedicated short haul rail where the track is designed to carry axle loads of 30T plus. Whilst an extra 7-9T/axle doesn't sound like much, the entire DIRN would need to be rebuilt. Whilst 'Pilbara' type loco's may have better survivability factors for the crew (and that's the US mentality), really we collectively need to be looking at avoiding RLX collisions, not accepting that they're going to be commonplace. @@gm16v149
@gm16v149
@gm16v149 6 ай бұрын
@@dionchandler2658 I think we can all agree something’s got to be done. At the foot of the Chichester Range in the Pilbara where FMG’s Solomon rail line crosses the highway, they have an automated message on the UHF triggered by an approaching train. Also despite what you said about boom gates earlier, I think a physical barrier has got to help. Also cameras. The rail crossings where Rio’s automated AutoHaul trains run all have cameras to catch drivers breaking the law, so no one thinks about trying to beat the train, because the cameras cover a considerable distance on both sides of the crossing. Ultimately there’s always going to be stupid drivers and there’s nothing anyone can do about except build overpasses. Incidentally, the big four mining companies in the Pilbara have got 40 tonne axle loadings these days, you’ve only got to see a few KZbin videos to how the big American locos just plough through trucks in USA. The huge cow catchers shaped like a bulldozer blade do the job, which the NRs don’t have.
@aussie8114
@aussie8114 6 ай бұрын
I looked at this on Google earth yesterday. Truck driver has no excuses in my opinion. Plenty of signage before he got to the crossing and perfect visibility.
@Grumpy-sy7wr
@Grumpy-sy7wr 6 ай бұрын
One thing that comes to mind, if any of those are a regular route, that any particular driver covers 200 times a year, well, complacency may be a factor. The last 199 crossings, nothing around, no trains. I can say this from experience. I used to cross a signposted crossing quite regularly. No lights or bells, eventually treated it like a cross road intersection, quick glance both ways on approach and rip through. One day, I heard on the news of a fatal car/train collision at that very crossing. Soon changed my ways back to doing it properly.
@jonathanrabbitt
@jonathanrabbitt 6 ай бұрын
This. I think that complacency on the approach to the level crossing might be a significant factor; particularly if the driver was doing a regular run or changeover.
@cabbagepatch8947
@cabbagepatch8947 6 ай бұрын
You may go over a crossing many times but when the boom gates are down, the lights flashing and the bells ringing you don't cross.
@jonathanrabbitt
@jonathanrabbitt 6 ай бұрын
@@cabbagepatch8947 That's a piously theoretical answer. Might be fine for a car, but 100 tonnes at 90km/h...
@freesbrisbane
@freesbrisbane 6 ай бұрын
100%, Complacency will get you killed. As humans we often operate on auto pilot and don’t pay the attention warranted.
@peternewman958
@peternewman958 6 ай бұрын
Excellent video ROB, well done.
@duffross4252
@duffross4252 6 ай бұрын
I drove a tow truck in Victoria. Attended several accidents over the years , where the lights on rail crossings did not activate . As witnesses informed the police . Only to watch railway investigators walk over to the control box , flick a switch to activate the lights and sometimes boom gates . Then walk over to the police and say that they operated the lights , that they worked and must have been operating at the time off accident . So there is times where there is circumstances that play a major part in these crashes . I myself as a truck driver , with over 20 years of interstate driving , I also have worked with trains , having studied , only needing now to sit the train driver practical test . Sometimes there is mitigating circumstances involved in these crashes . So let's wait and see before we start offering options on what should happen to who
@freesbrisbane
@freesbrisbane 6 ай бұрын
Absolutely spot on.
@davidelliott5738
@davidelliott5738 6 ай бұрын
Hi Rob. If you have a look at Google Earth Street View at the Bindarrah crossing, you can see flashing lights on a sign with "Prepare to Stop", probably 100 to 200 metres before the crossing, (it's bit hard to tell on the computer screen), as well as the flashing lights at the crossing itself. That is on both sides of the crossing. Then there are the huge "Railway Crossing" signs either side of the road as well. So, the crossing is well marked. Your point about how careful we all have to be on the roads can't be said loud enough!! Sympathies to all affected by this terrible "accident".
@stendecstretcher5678
@stendecstretcher5678 6 ай бұрын
Spot on.
@hayplain63
@hayplain63 6 ай бұрын
In Victoria at least , warning and advice signs are generally inadequate even for rest stops. Signs and warnings need to start at the very minimum, 500 metres out , particularly for a fully loaded b double and now, road trains. There are definitely not enough big red 'Reduce Speed' signs out there nor rumble strips for tricky intersections. The authorities have to play their part and in my book they are lagging badly. Even the Kerang crossing still isn't great and for no one to accept responsiblility for that unspeakable tragedy still makes my blood boil. With the driver acquitted , the government and authorities got away with manslaughter. Ideally you seperate the two but that would be a monumental and extremely costly task.
@trimat2016
@trimat2016 6 ай бұрын
If the railway authorities were serious about safety, they would have boom gates at every crossing and flashing amber lights 100m up the road on both sides. That way there would be less crashes and never be any doubt about who was at fault.
@dionchandler2658
@dionchandler2658 6 ай бұрын
Boom gates are not a deterrent, they were there and working at the incident at Katherine in June 2023, and did absolutely nothing but splinter when the truck drove through them, after passing the pre-warning sign with flashing ights.
@russellclark9419
@russellclark9419 6 ай бұрын
Just my two cents, in a lot of these cases boom gates wouldn't have stopped a truck that close to the line, it's already to late. But in all these accidents if a second set of red flashing lights were placed 150m before the crossing I'm sure it would have saved lives.
@user-hp2ji7rj9t
@user-hp2ji7rj9t 6 ай бұрын
May be all these crossings should have warning lights a couple of hundred meters before the crossing as well.
@jamesgovett3225
@jamesgovett3225 6 ай бұрын
I always slow a bit and look to the left and right for any trains even on crossings with flashing lights as I have always had a slight feeling of distrust about them as anything can malfunction
@kenfowler1980
@kenfowler1980 6 ай бұрын
Well said! As an ex truck driver I was always fully aware that I was totally responsible for my actions- regardless of time or other pressures. In fact when those other pressures started to make me drive unsafely I stopped driving semis. How the Kerang & other driver got off is beyond me! Cheers
@johnwitte551
@johnwitte551 4 ай бұрын
the Kerang driver had managed to stop but the train caught his bullbar and pulled the truck into the train
@kenfowler1980
@kenfowler1980 4 ай бұрын
@@johnwitte551 um so what?
@getsome2506
@getsome2506 5 ай бұрын
I love Trains vs Stupid Truck Drivers great videos!
@robertchapman6795
@robertchapman6795 6 ай бұрын
Could they legislate transponders in a “crossing to truck” warning system? Starting 200-300m before crossing. Just have a flashing light on the dash/entertainment system/vehicle recording system and a buzzer that sounds like crossing bells regardless of whether there’s a train. It can be immediately deactivated by the driver as acknowledgement, which will be recorded in the system. Then it’s the truck drivers’ responsibility.
@smitajky
@smitajky 6 ай бұрын
There are a few points here. "we have deadlines .." Surely those who SET deadlines should not escape blame. Any vehicle can be held up by conditions and should be driven accordingly. Pressure to "make up time" because of a deadline SHOULD be criminal. Just in time delivery is convenient to the receiver but is potentially deadly. A terrible practice. The second point is that the crossings all used to be marked with "stop,look and listen". I know that people in cars don't stop for give way signs and aren't required to. They don't stop for stop signs and ARE required to. But continuing without stopping leaves vehicles masked by the A pillar. Most days I have to avoid a person doing this. So stopping is very important. That didn't happen at Kerang. I might add another experience on a train from Shepparton to Melbourne. Twice in that trip the train had to use full emergency brakes because of trucks. One of them had been driving parallel to the train. Perhaps 30 m from it. The road turned to go across the rail crossing. That turn was a sharp bend and could not possibly be navigated at the speed the truck was moving. And if he had navigated the turn he would have hit the passenger train or be hit by it. At the last moment the truck driver realised the peril and instead of turning into the train he went straight. Through a fence and into the paddock. One wonders just HOW he was unaware of the train. Or did he think he could beat the train? One can never know.
@raemack1969
@raemack1969 6 ай бұрын
I agree. 'appointment' times and constant pressure to make deliveries should be outlawed. The idea of 'just in time deliveries allows for increased profits for companies, and more deaths on the road and rail routes. sorry isn't good enough when people are dying because you want to get your bonus this year.
@freesbrisbane
@freesbrisbane 6 ай бұрын
I agree, deadlines are criminal. Thanks to COR legislation, “deadlines” have become “delivery expectations”… ie, nothing has changed.
@wmclare
@wmclare 6 ай бұрын
At 1.27 you said the train was travelling behind him and parrallel. I think you will find the train was heading west and the truck was travelling east. How you can not see a train that is about 6m high, 1.8km long with bright lights facing directly at the truck driver is beyond me. I have travelled that crossing many times and between Peterborough and Broken Hill you cross that rail line 4 times - 2 over passes and 2 rail crossings. I have always thought the rail crossing near Oodla Wirra was more dangerous. If you are driving any vehicle you should be aware of your surroundings. Driving a road train you should be extra vigilant because you are also watching 2 trailers and making sure they stay upright. To have crossed the crossing at Bindarrah, the driver should have been well aware there was a bend in the road that he had to navigate which he did. He should only have been driving at 90kph max so there is ample time to monitor his surroundings.
@gm16v149
@gm16v149 6 ай бұрын
I always slow to 60 or 70 on that crossing with a 2 trailer roadtrain, I am very familiar with it and it’s probably the best view of any crossing. There are others much worse than that.
@freesbrisbane
@freesbrisbane 6 ай бұрын
Yes, I was mistaken, the truck and train were heading opposite directions, making the train very visible. It makes the accident even more baffling. I agree completely.
@jonathanrabbitt
@jonathanrabbitt 6 ай бұрын
The first RR crossing sign at Bindarrah was only 500m out (just a yellow diamond). There is a second sign with amber beacons at about half that distance further around the curve. Then there's the beacons at the crossing proper; but no boom gates. 250m notice on a curve is not a whole lot of notice for 100 tonnes of A-B triple. The truck and train were apparently travelling in opposite directions, so the truck driver wouldn't have necessarily seen the train until too late. BTW, crossing warning devices can fail unsafe, although it is very rare.
@chrisquinlan3012
@chrisquinlan3012 6 ай бұрын
After earlier rail/semi crashes raised beds of bitumen were laid on the road surface leading up to the crossings.Wake up bumps.
@jonathanrabbitt
@jonathanrabbitt 6 ай бұрын
@@chrisquinlan3012 Advanced notice of an infrequently active crossing isn't that much more helpful for 100 tonnes at 90km/h. Yes, a road train can pretty much stop as quickly as any other truck in an emergency situation (axle loads are no greater) but a driver would be reluctant to slow down unnecessarily due to the time it takes to regain speed. If triples frequentl that road, there needs to be way more notice of an activated crossing; like 600m or more. 200ish metres is not enough.
@kenfowler1980
@kenfowler1980 6 ай бұрын
It is the main Sydney to Perth line and has been there (or near by) since the early ‘20’s it is not an infrequently used line! And they were travelling in opposite directions the truck driver should have seen the bright yellow cab, headlights and the alternating flashing ditch lights. If the signals were faulty (which they weren’t) the control centre for the train would have been alerted and would have radioed the crew, who would have been slowing down and laying into the horns. The truth is ol’ mate knows how long those trains are & decided to take a risk! There was absolutely no excuse! And if a B triple needs more than 200 metres of warning, remember the ambers would have been flashing when he passed them, then they are too unsafe to be on our roads!
@jonathanrabbitt
@jonathanrabbitt 6 ай бұрын
@@kenfowler1980 How many crossing activations in a day? From a truck driver's perspective, how likely would they arrive at an active crossing event compared with a dormant situation? The approach curves away from the line at least a kilometer prior, if not more; so the truck driver ain't looking directly at an oncoming train. And yes; the road alignment was there well before triple road trains were regularly traveling through. It's a problem that nobody has really looked at carefully.
@kenfowler1980
@kenfowler1980 6 ай бұрын
@@jonathanrabbitt and what if that train was the Indian pacific? We would be having a different conversation
@richardclarke7949
@richardclarke7949 6 ай бұрын
I felt for the driver in the Lismore crash. I've taken b double tippers down that road many times, and the fog can be really thick there, and can hang around until lunchtime. Parking up until the fog clears just isn't an option. All railway crossings need lights, and thankfully the Victorian government have fitted lights to most crossings.
@woolleymammoth2590
@woolleymammoth2590 6 ай бұрын
Turkey, get your facts straight. The train was heading West to Perth and the b triple was travelling East to somewhere on the east coast. The truck driver would have seen the lights of the train coming towards him for multi klms.
@stevespatrol
@stevespatrol 6 ай бұрын
Why isn’t there a overpass there like there is at Petersborough?
@gm16v149
@gm16v149 6 ай бұрын
Money.
@davidblowe9096
@davidblowe9096 6 ай бұрын
I was working as a security guard at the Lismore crash, the poor driver didn’t see the train until it was too late and unfortunately we know the rest. On the last night at the scene we witnessed a truck travelling from Lismore south along the Camperdown Road, a train was coming west bound, the crossing light activated, the truck was not slowing down, two security guards standing in the middle of the road flashing very bright touches and the truck speeding up as it leaves town ! We looked at each other and both said we might be here for another week ! The truck kept speeding up - red lights flashing, train sounding its horns, head light on and ditch lights flashing, two security guards standing in the middle of the road and flashing their very bright touches - truck changes up a gear and keep accelerating ! We stepped off the road because it’s obvious we and the red flashing light are being ignored, truck driver finally gets the very obvious picture and hits the breaks - fortunately the train was travelling very slow due to speed restrictions on the repaired tracks so it ended well - but had that train been travelling at normal track speed things would have been different and we would have been called to court as witnesses of a second accident at the scene of a recent fatality.
@freesbrisbane
@freesbrisbane 6 ай бұрын
Wow, that blows me away. That driver was the very reason for the “some people never learn” quote. You did a great job out there and I’m glad you and your colleague didn’t get injured as a result of that driver’s idiocy.
@davidblowe9096
@davidblowe9096 6 ай бұрын
@@freesbrisbane an associate from a long time ago was a train driver, due to family he switched to trucks, one particular day he was driving west along the Hamilton Highway and see a west bound train running parallel with him and another driver, he radioed the other driver to warn him to be on the lookout, the response was and I quote “I’m not stopping for that fuck’n thing” my associate came around the bend to the east of Derrinallam to see the crossing lights going and the truck in front spewing smoke off the locked up trailer tyres, luckily he pulled up in time. I watch a uni student at Deakin Warrnambool miss the freight train by 2 second one night 😮, I would have been the first in scene for that one.
@woods840
@woods840 6 ай бұрын
Train obviously has right of way no matter what. Stop look and listen. It's not rocket science.
@Carrscreekcritter
@Carrscreekcritter 6 ай бұрын
Very good and interesting comments . As a licensed operator of a motor vehicle we have rules to follow as do the driver of these trains. A interesting thing you said was driving in fogging conditions, well living next to a rail corridor i have never seen a train slow down for these conditions. It was a very tragic event and hopefully never happen again with my thoughts for everyone. One of a truck driver's greatest friend is his UHF radio and maybe trains should use one to announce there approaching details to truck's in these area's.
@bimma320
@bimma320 6 ай бұрын
We have enough to do when driving a train without having to announce our arrival at level crossings on a UHF radio. That’s why we have other warning equipment like horns, whistles, headlights, ditch lights which by law must be operated approaching level crossings. We are not required to slow down in fog, we keep the freight or the passengers moving to schedule. We can drive at normal track speed in fog if we know where we are, have fully operational lighting and horn/whistle, and it is safe to do so.
@Carrscreekcritter
@Carrscreekcritter 6 ай бұрын
Thanks for your comments but any system that may stop another fatality is worth a try our do what more PPE. Glad to hear it is in use in regional area's of WA using communication that the locality supports. There are grieving families there now it was a comment that I made about UHF that may have stop this but you don't seem to care about these families because you have all these devices that you mention . Let's try to stop it hurting families with no more incidents that involve trains ,trucks cars and pedestrians . No government is going to put in overpasses ,boom gates lights in the near future as you know there are to many of them. So UHF maybe a short term solution in regional area's bit you don't seem to care about the families because you got all the devices they had.
@bimma320
@bimma320 6 ай бұрын
@@Carrscreekcritter seriously? I’m a train driver. I’ve just lost two brothers. Every single time I leave my home to go to work I hug my wife and kids like it’s the last time I’ll see them. If you seriously think I don’t care about the families of these great men you are sorely mistaken, I am one of them. On my regular trip I cross countless level crossings ranging from private farm crossings with stop signs to major roads with flashing lights only to major highway crossings with full type F lights/bells/booms. When I say countless I mean it. I would be guessing, because I’ve never counted them, but just in the shortest run I do of 385km I’m going to guess 150 level crossings. Now are you suggesting I make a broadcast call at every one of these crossings? How will I identify myself and my location, my direction, which crossing I’m about to enter? This is on top of what I’ve already said above…by law I must also be operating the whistle for 4 seconds a set distance away and a further 1 second as I approach. I must ensure my headlights are on full bright. I must watch the approaches to the crossing like a hawk for any vehicle that may enter. On top of that you want me to be using a radio? No. I have enough to do. We have a sophisticated radio system of VHF, UHF, satellite and intercom which far surpasses any 80 channel UHF’s capabilities but it doesn’t use the CB range so we would need to install another radio in every locomotive across the country. Who is paying for that? Then you’re going to need to identify what channel we use. Are you saying that I now have to listen to every bloody Truckie and road going moron gibbering on 29 or 40 while I’m in my work environment? We already have a radio on usually with two active frequencies which we are monitoring for rail incidents and emergencies. We don’t need to listen to old mate having a yarn with Bazza about his haul up to the mountains tomorrow. Are you going to mandate that every light vehicle installs a UHF now? Most near misses and collisions are with light vehicles, not trucks. Truck drivers are usually the most well behaved around rail lines because they are mostly professional drivers that have respect for the heavy machinery we operate. I know you’re trying to help, but you’re way off the mark and I’m sorry you’re offended by me calling a spade a spade. If you think I don’t care, you are very much mistaken. It’s my bread and butter mate, and every time I walk out the door I know I may not come home because I deal with fuckwits daily.
@Carrscreekcritter
@Carrscreekcritter 6 ай бұрын
@@bimma320 ok spade you have all the gear and whistles but you still don't seem to care. Loving life is a great thing so it was only a suggestion to cherish lives I am sorry for you loss of your family and don't wish it on anyone You have a safe day at work and go home to your family
@JoeHupp
@JoeHupp 6 ай бұрын
That driver in the Bindarrah crash was a fill-in driver - he was filling in for that truck’s regular driver as he was on holidays
@dieseldavetrains8988
@dieseldavetrains8988 6 ай бұрын
No excuse for not obeying the road rules.
@kenfowler1980
@kenfowler1980 6 ай бұрын
No excuse
@DanfromOz
@DanfromOz 3 ай бұрын
I fill in for other drivers all the time and dont smash into trains
@benconnell5270
@benconnell5270 6 ай бұрын
I'm a truck driver and I own a train set
@rebeccamyott7041
@rebeccamyott7041 6 ай бұрын
Install STOP SIGNS.If the drivers stop, he will have time to look for a train.!!!!!!!
@Sickasbrew
@Sickasbrew 6 ай бұрын
Truck was heading east, train was heading west, he should have seen it coming towards him and on the left side
@freesbrisbane
@freesbrisbane 6 ай бұрын
So I’ve now been informed. Yes, it should have been more visible for him as on the straight it would have been right in front of him.
@Sickasbrew
@Sickasbrew 6 ай бұрын
@freesbrisbane it's not hard to zone out on that stretch of road though, especially for an older bloke.
@brianwillert2833
@brianwillert2833 6 ай бұрын
The truck was carting Avocados from QLD so why was he traveling east an not west? @@freesbrisbane
@dionchandler2658
@dionchandler2658 6 ай бұрын
That's got me confused too, a bit like selling an Eskimo a fridge. @@brianwillert2833
@jonathanrabbitt
@jonathanrabbitt 6 ай бұрын
​@@freesbrisbaneThat depends on the terrain. Terrain that is ostensibly flat is not always flat enough to see all that far ahead.
@militaryvehiclemarkings4696
@militaryvehiclemarkings4696 6 ай бұрын
75 is to old to be driving a truck.
@dougtilley5977
@dougtilley5977 6 ай бұрын
They should have an overpass there
@gm16v149
@gm16v149 6 ай бұрын
There is one a few Ks up the road just out of Cockburn on the same road and over the same track. The train drivers have said they have lots of near misses, so something’s got to be done.
@R00RAL
@R00RAL 6 ай бұрын
​@@gm16v149As a Triple or C train truck driver, I have spoken personally to train drivers of grain & iron ore, the train drivers all say & sadly. The most dangerous part of their job is the crossing of public roads.
@oldmatelinc
@oldmatelinc 6 ай бұрын
Sounds like oldmate f**ked up🤔from how u described it how could u miss it🤷‍♂️
@R00RAL
@R00RAL 6 ай бұрын
I haven't been there, but the drivers that have, all say it's the most visual obvious safe crossing in the State. It was a race.. period.
@spanners94
@spanners94 6 ай бұрын
A lot of posters talk about the rules regarding level crossings. Yes, the rules should be obeyed but why not more overpasses? Some say money. How about getting the freight companies that want to run double stack trains a kilometre long in length be made to pay their way and contribute to the overpasses instead of tax payers having to foot the bill for more level crossing improvements. There is a temporary bridge near me that is in place because the old one collapsed due to lack of maintenance by the railways that built it. A new one can't be built because the freight companies don't want the rail line disrupted while a new bridge is built. must look after the shareholders.
@dionchandler2658
@dionchandler2658 6 ай бұрын
You do know that rail freight operators pay access fee's to run on rail for every trip. A significant cost to rail operators are the track access fee's, it's not just fuel and drivers wages. At the commencement of every trip, a train crew advises Train Control of train details, including length and tonnage so that the train can be charged appropriately. The synopsis of double stacking containers is a bit like a Road Train compared to single trailer work, to reduce the total number of unit's.
@robbrewer2036
@robbrewer2036 6 ай бұрын
Police need to crackdown on bad driving behaviour not speed,all vehicles tailgate and break rules the real problem.
@ursodermatt8809
@ursodermatt8809 6 ай бұрын
ahh yes, truck drivers should not be fined when crossing red lights with 120kmh in a 60kmh zone. truck drivers have to drive like that.
@freesbrisbane
@freesbrisbane 6 ай бұрын
If that’s what you reckon. 🤦🏼‍♂️
@matcausey1778
@matcausey1778 6 ай бұрын
Was the 75 year old truck driver colourblind and the condition not noted poor eyesight In all seriousness what is a old school as hell 75 year old bloke doing driving a truck at his age. The most likely of all truck driver types to try and race a train one that has probably been gap running for years. Maybe he will claim mental health... dementure made him forget what a flashing light and signs at a rail crossing mean..
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