Trump Wants To Beef Up The Military, But Recruiters Are Having Trouble Finding People (HBO)

Donald Trump wants a bigger army. Much bigger. For recruiters, that means a hard job just got harder.
This year's target has been set to 80,000 recruits, up from 68,000 the year before, and the edict comes at a low point for recruitment enthusiasm. Low unemployment rates have made the Army less appealing for young people, as have more than 15 years of war in Afghanistan and Iraq. To make matters worse, a rise in obesity rates means that only some of the young people who are interested in enlisting in the armed forces can even qualify.
So the Army is looking inward, reforming itself to make the prospect of serving more attractive. These initiatives include increasing bonuses, allowing more waivers for people who have used marijuana, and helping potential recruits to lose weight.
Elle Reeve visited Fort Knox to see how recruiters are adapting to their new mission.
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These initiatives include increasing bonuses, allowing more waivers for people who have used marijuana, and helping potential recruits to lose weight. WATCH NEXT: We Follow A New Generation Of Soldiers Headed To Afghanistan - bit.ly/2EiP1Od

[@PitterPatter20]

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[@haithembenhmida2579]

trump's army? aren't you the ones that are pushing the "liberation" of syria? well you ve got it and i think it can't be done without YOUR YOUTH.

[@SilverShrimpTX]

Be Smart, Enlist NAVY!!!

[@ropro9817]

Why are you knobs (+VICE News) reposting this old video again?

[@oldtimedrumcorps]

Want the wars to stop ? Stay the hell out . You are being used for the mi lindust complex ,wake up .

[@Matt-oj2kl]

Joined the army at 20 yrs old. Did my 4 years and got out. Made friends that are my brothers for life and got to see more of the world than most people ever will. Using my va home loan right now to buy a house zero money down and have my gi bill. Use the military, don’t let it use you.

[@Danny71891]

Is 27 too old? I’m considering it now due to me not liking school enough to finish. I would also like some discipline. But I wouldn’t want to be in the Army for life or more than a few years. Is it possible to do just a few years and get out completely?

[@MLGtroll365]

@@Danny71891 no it's not too old just be in shape & just don't join during the summer because that's when all the immature teenagers join.

[@themanplan987]

@@Danny71891 there was a guy who got a waiver or something in my flight. He was guard though

[@matt4239]

@@Danny71891 27 is definitely not to old to join however just recognise that you'll be going in with so much more life experience then the young guys you'll be joining with which WILL piss you off longterm i assure you so just consider that when you think about going for infantry. Maybe choose a more technical role.

[@Danny71891]

Trollmaster I have heard that before. An Army youtuber said he was about 22 and there was plenty of guys between 21-26 because he didn’t go through basic in the summer after high schools get out.

[@pinacoladatv808]

That’s why they target young high school students

[@mangored209]

The answer is true actually. They need more soliders/sailors/airmen for their operations to be successful. The numbers are low. There's more demand for the army than anything before. Depending on your biases (politcal or not) this could look bad for the nation as a whole. Look at this without any political view. There's more demand for military recruits than they can get. This situation just sucks regardless on what side your on.

[@yoleeisbored]

yep they even go to colleges.. i got some GoArmy brochures

[@bigtankmctokery543]

Same thing with religion. Get em while they're young and vulnerable

[@Dischingo]

Maybe instead of the government wasting all their money on useless projects that line the corporations wallets why not increase the acceptance rate for the military. And I dont mean lower the standards Keep the standards as they are but put more money into education and Healthcare, most soldiers get denied for these two reasons if you solve both or even one of these problems you will have a much better chance of getting people to join.

[@yoleeisbored]

@@Dischingo i agree.. can get denied if you smoked weed... stupid

[@terryr7622]

Maybe some of these politicians should send their own families to set an example. Just saying

[@tonyjones1560]

They should be *required* to go...and go to the front for combat duty, wherever it is.

[@Radbiker33357]

Terry R most politicians were in the military at one point... just saying.

[@phillip_iv_planetking6354]

@@Radbiker33357 Not President Bone spurs

[@collinwoodard5116]

33 of our presidents have served in the military...

[@Pikkabuu]

@@collinwoodard5116 And how many of the recent ones have? And real military and not a weekend retreat like Bush W did.

[@Keithguinn97]

Want more to join? Take care of the ones you already have so they actually have something good to say to prospective recruits. The lifestyle is a ticking time bomb. -USAF Vet

[@reaxo3577]

Louder for the shitty leadership in the back🙌🏽

[@ibetyoudidntknow51]

And take care of the one's who served who are now screwed up for life!!

[@abelmendez8075]

Bruh you were in the chair force LMAO

[@elijahvalongo9528]

@@abelmendez8075 anf you never served

[@gavins9846]

@@abelmendez8075 all good though, what, you think they stand in fighter jet cockpits? REEE!

[@cr7neymar908]

Want more people to join? Pay soldiers more.

[@willammines226]

CR7NEYMAR yup

[@nikolavanzettiteslasacco4991]

CR7NEYMAR we spend billions of dollars looking for life on other planets, and spend trillions of dollars killing this one ??

[@nightfighter7452]

All the tax dollars that go to the military shit

[@nikolavanzettiteslasacco4991]

* true! Keep the peace alive, bro! ✌️✌️💪💪💪💪

[@murkzzy1659]

They pay soldiers less because they get free housing, medical, and food

[@unknownop7144]

She wants to join for the money, travel, exp 😂😂 damn those recruiters got tht one

[@dj_menyo839]

samn thing I thought. I was like damn.... that koolade must be sweetened with cocaine b/c she cant stop drinking it.

[@elvertosbron6657]

I have a friend I went to school with grant it wasnt the army he was a marine but hes been all over the place

[@dakoderii4221]

@Jacqueline Crone Always remember, "It's not WHAT you know, it's WHO you know." Have the wrong leadership and your life will become a living Hell. Have the right leadership and morale is great and there is a brotherhood that forms. Sickening hearing "leaders" place bets on who they can get to off themselves next then act as if they have no idea why this happened, YET AGAIN.

[@davidmitchell2926]

Relaxed standards means a drop in standards...recipe for disaster

[@Wasserkaktus]

Completely deceived that one

[@markemmerson1383]

Usually the recruitment standards are as follows: During peacetime : We'll take anyone that's Captain America or better. During war: We'll take Beetlejuice's cousin with ADHD and asthma. Although you make mention of Afghanistan I pretty much consider the US to be in a state of peace, and the recruiting standards to still be Beetlejuice-esque.

[@_Wai_Wai_]

Lol, video says they accept people with past episodes of mental illness, and people who are technically obese.

[@gregdubya1993]

@@_Wai_Wai_ they won't be obese long

[@keirandunwoodie8138]

Psychopaths will be useful in ww3

[@GoodMorning-uz4xz]

Dude this was hilarious- lol!!!

[@arx3516]

@@gregdubya1993 if they don't die from an heart attack, that is.

[@jordannoel5970]

Recruiters will literally tell you to lie about some things just to get in.

[@joefitzgerald2762]

and?

[@valioma9108]

@@joefitzgerald2762 recruiter spotted

[@inohalajian4151]

🤫🤭🤐

[@abeham3103]

Not every recruiter is like that bro but if you scared than don’t join 😂

[@valuecalc]

@@abeham3103 , it's "then," not "than."

[@rebel21ism]

If we get invaded or massively attacked. I’ll join, but I refuse to die in a desert somewhere for the rich mans wallet.

[@collinromero5476]

ryan thomas Less than 1 percent of military personnel die in the line of duty

[@rebel21ism]

Collin Romero You are 100 percent correct, sir. I also will not be among the 100 percent of the troops that either kill or aid in killing people who are not an invading army or massively attacked us in someway. I will not be a soldier for Capitalism Imperialism. There country is theirs and mine is mine.

[@kodiak3995]

@@rebel21ism explain how training local defense forces and fighting racist terrorist organizations is “fascist imperialism” and a “fight for capitalism” aka the greatest economic theory, America is phony capitalism lol

[@MAC-vi7fy]

Yup. It was the “rich mans” wallet which was attacked on 9/11. And it is the rich man fighting Islamic forces which deny women rights, beat women for not wearing burqa, take them as sex slaves. See, the rich man is making so much money protecting the people of Afghanistan from radical Islamic fanatics. ~ A person from AFPAK.

[@jessiesad7036]

MAC It was also the “rich” mans wallet that triggered most of those events. Afghanistan was very liberal and adapted western policies even more so when the Soviets came in and tried to make it even more liberal and less religiously conservative. It was when Mujahadeen fighters were trained and armed through the “rich” mans wallet that led to the destabilization and civil war of the country allowing for a splinter group(Taliban) to take over and enforce radical islamic ideologies. The war in Afghanistan has been two decades long now and costed several billions of dollars and it isn’t much different than when it was first invaded, socioeconomically speaking. In fact it’s made things worse such as how paying farmers in Afghanistan to destroy their poppy plants led to them growing more to get paid to destroy them. At least Afghanistan got a new president, a former Unacoal advisor. Guess what the first thing he did was. I hope you didn’t guess that it was a Unacoal pipeline or other infrastructures that the “rich” man was invested in that was built through tax payer money. The 9/11 attacks were orchestrated by Al Qaeda not the Taliban, but other countries that hosted Al Qaeda and harbored its leader like America’s sporadic ally, Pakistan never saw an invasion. It was also because of the “rich” mans wallet Iraq was invaded, because there were “supposedly” weapons of mass destruction and they were aiding terrorists. There were no weapons of mass destruction or terrorists, and the most dangerous weapons Iraq possessed were weapons that were acquired through the help of the rich” mans wallet to combat Iran decades ago. So I wonder why Iraq really was invaded. Surely couldn’t have been for oil like it was for the first Iraq invasion. Which by the way was a failure because the oil wells weren’t successfully secured. If Iraq was Rwanda, do you think anything would’ve been done? Oh yeah, what about the new terrorists in Iraq. Because of the power vacuum created in Iraq after its invasion by creating animosity against western ideology(because of the sheer amount of civilian casualties) and replacing the Sunni government with Shia leaders. Those old leaders and ex soldiers went on to create a new group with the training they had possessed. I’ll let you guess what that ones called. All of this at the cost of tax payer money and American casualties for the “rich” mans wallet.

[@mattallen5335]

That's because we're getting sick and tired of endless wars we're done.

[@infernogamers168]

Snowflake

[@Jaylio]

inferno gamers how?

[@alicyjinx8923]

@@infernogamers168 butthurt because you know it's TRUE?

[@minshew2039]

@@infernogamers168 yes someone who wants to end bloodshed for a bunch of little militias that we started shit with. If your such a tough guy, go fight.

[@pranav5635]

no thats because most young people are not physically and mentally qualified

[@guccithofgangeth7679]

It's like people don't want to go into a career where they can simultaneously risk their lives and be treated like trash whilst being payed next to nothing 🤔

[@Tagout10593]

Guccith of Gangeth crazy shit right

[@TheLe016]

How can anyone pass that up?

[@biketred2284]

Guccith of Gangeth they get paid just fine u dumb ass! If u think they dont go and look at what they drive and what they live in and youll see they are paid just fine

[@Tagout10593]

Bike Tred gr8 b8

[@inactive2250]

Guccith of Gangeth they get paid good 17k As E1(E1 is the starting rank), and it rises with promotions, And without having to pay for shit like food/housing/water and medical. Also you get a secure job. If the possibility of someone being unfriendly to you prevents you from enlisting...the military isn’t for you. Besides there are Medical/construction/electrician MOS available so not every job is a combat job.

[@valtervalter2584]

US Military: “Surprised nobody joins” Also US Military: Offers 72 less virgins than its adversary

[@emersonherrera4939]

🤔😭😭😭

[@JohnSmith-yq7gu]

@@emersonherrera4939 Some people are idiots and have no clue what they are talking about, and just repeat what they saw on fox news.

[@brianjacobsen5762]

But 100,000 Hookers could beat the Marine Corps.When everyone is getting blowjobs .That's when will finally have world peace. No /Fx

[@mahadomar7039]

@@JohnSmith-yq7gu as an ex muslim he is telling the truth. They think they Will get 72 verigins if they blow themselves up

[@jed-henrywitkowski6470]

Brilliant!

[@heyheyhey40]

I served my country honorable in the Army. This is not a job for everyone! Less is more! Relaxed standards will create a larger yet overall weaker force!

[@TurboSnail8734]

Joe T and more shitbag leadership

[@boujounomono]

If only government leaders of countries that have mandatory military conscription think like you

[@rabidwombat6665]

You mean weaker than it has fallen to already? The standards are lax enough as it is how can they make them even lower?

[@xjustbecuzx]

If you've ever heard of a thing called history, that's typically how we win... but who I'm I to tell a soldier that...all broze and no brain

[@jonid8365]

Joe T Thank you for your service Joe! God bless

[@sethchiaroproductions2171]

Its Retention is the priority. If the military didn't treat people like shit then maybe members would stay in

[@kojack635]

Stop making sense before we reduce your rank and pay

[@arkcantoscreampsnpc7274]

Kojack that’s the best leadership Ive heard in years solder. Your promoted

[@usosouljah808]

Hey Corp Meet me outside with a water source.

[@usosouljah808]

Austin Brown hmmm you can meet me outside with a water source as well.

[@arkcantoscreampsnpc7274]

bravo685 but Sarge my camelback got ran over by an 88 in Poland!

[@towardsthelight220]

Fighting rich men's wars are not in your best interest.

[@samiwanski5000]

Chris Campbell yo Karl Marx chill

[@Cashrock]

@@samiwanski5000, you sir are an idiot.

[@mdkcjtl5523]

I’m willing to get my legs blown off I’m will to take a chest full of hot lead and bleed out miserable I’m willing to lose my life for the U.S.A. I don’t really care if I die if the U.S.A. Needs me I’ll be there 🇺🇸🦅

[@mdkcjtl5523]

420,000 American soldiers lost their life in WW2 100,000 in WW1 50,000 in Vietnam we owe it to them to defend the nation as they did Iraq killed 2800 US soldiers Afghanistan killed less than that those aren’t even wars compared to WW2 that was far far more bloody

[@ryandouthart4535]

@@mdkcjtl5523 WWII was also one of the largest wars in human history. it makes sense that less troops have died; compared to WWII, iran is a mere skirmish.

[@jiguo773]

“War is young men dying and old men talking” -Franklin d. Roosevelt Why not send Donny jr and Eric ? theyll represent the us. If they die trying oh well .

[@patriot1525]

Most likely too old.

[@lettherebelamp5102]

Ji Guo hey hey they probably have bone spurs like their “very tough” father

[@hfirm9897]

@@lettherebelamp5102 I have rooster named "bonespures" did you just insult him?

[@kathyfranklund3787]

McGro The Holy Man Trumps not world he can tell you is the best at everything. Including war. Donnie Junior well did run him over with the jeep within the first week.

[@SeansModelBuilds2017]

@@hfirm9897 He spelled it differently so no.

[@FirstLast-zv5od]

About 10% of the military will see frontline combat. As in engagements and what not. The rest perform various tasks that support them. 100% of them are important.

[@FirstLast-zv5od]

Bill Anderson Nice picture.

[@Atombender]

Everyone of them will have Trump as the commander in chief. That's a major turnoff in its own right.

[@NelliSmith]

This is so true. My husband is a Navy vet. He never once had to get on a boat, never had to hold or shoot a gun, didnt have a bootcamp. He learned the beginnings of Network Engineering. Now he is a senior Network Engineer for a govt branch. Never had to go to college, just learned along the way. I dont like wars and I hate that we need a military, but I am realistic. I think joining the military is something everyone should consider, even a small bit. It gave us the life we have now. 💚

[@neromax4424]

aaaaaaaand that changes nothing

[@billyjacc]

@@NelliSmith He never had to attend Boot Camp? How'd he join the Navy without doing that?

[@ziljin]

Lowering recruitment requirements for mentally ill. So expect an increase of population of homeless vets with PTSD.

[@devinngeorge]

ziljin correlation does not equal causation

[@cloutedmo2799]

ziljin that’s not always the factor

[@lgeagle8225]

I enlisted can't wait for ptsd my dude

[@MiClLC]

More mentally ill people with military training to do crazy shit, to further push the gun control agenda.

[@robfischer795]

They actually aren't lowering the requirement. It's almost impossible to join if you've had any history of mental illness. Idk where vice got this info, but it's definitely not true.

[@ElNietoPR]

Of course you are just a number to the military. The same can be said about any job or even school out there. People don't like to hear this, but we are all replaceable. Afterall... ... we live IN A SOCIETY!

[@toxicl23l6]

Pewdiepie references lmao

[@ConsumingBacon69]

Toxic l23l it's not a pewdiepie reference... It's a reference to the "We live in a society" meme that's not made by pewds lmao

[@derek7762]

We live in a society... society we live in it

[@wolfenstien13]

We are all replaceable. That’s deep man.

[@DSNCB919]

El Nieto PR yup that's why you cant get complacent and have to keep learning new skills

[@kaiserrex9506]

Probaby also because the Navy and Air Force are more appealing

[@oceanbytez847]

air force not so much. They are at a glace but if you go to their office they are pretty snooty. The contracts suck bc they often dont want to offer the same bonuses as the other branches. Army will offer max bonus for enlisted reserve at an ASVAB of 70 for example. My score was 88 and they couldnt even give me 75% of that. So in the end if you are joining for benefits the air force shoots themselves in the foot because they turn away people who would otherwise join but end up in the navy or army bc those branches tend to give bigger bonuses for the same level of skill.

[@omyhaby2556]

@Brandon Martin thanks but truth to be told you wasted Your precious time protecting/creating interest for Politician and Oil campanies loser!

[@moldyrefrigerator]

I'm an Airman...yeah I would never join the Army. I sit at a desk all day in an air conditioned room, oh and I'm literally stationed right beside my hometown. I see all my friends so much that I don't even think some of them know I'm active duty lol

[@humbertocobian4740]

@@omyhaby2556 lol bro you have no idea what you're even talking about you ignorant neckbeard

[@navycorpsman9291]

Brandon Martin .....I concur, yes in agreement! Satisfied my 6 year obligation and ended up a lifer. I got to see parts of the world I would never have been able to see if I had not joined. It ain’t the best paid career money wise but it’s got all the sights and all the toys a guy can only dream about. I was fortunate to serve under great leadership and several commands. Best of all, I served along side many a great men and women of the United States Armed Forces. Join the Navy.....See the World!😎😎😎😎👍🏼🌎

[@MrAustyn88]

I was enlisting into the Army after high school. I scored a 98 on my ASVAB, was in great physical shape (5:15 mile, 80 pushups in a minute, 20 chin ups non stop) and selected 25S Satellite Communications Maintenance Operator as my MOS. I had a 40K sign on bonus for a 5 or 6 year contract and was excited for my future. Then, towards the very end of MEPS, I read a form I was signing saying that the military would find out anything that was on my record, including dismissed charges. This was contrary to what my parents had told me, so I was surprised but I told one of the officers there, and they had me sit aside and call my recruiter. When I was 9 (yes, 9 years god damn old), a 13 year friend of mine and I climbed into the window of my best friends house while he was on vacation with his mom, simply to hangout. My sister told my mother, and my mother called the cops on us. We were both charged with burglary, the other boy's charge sticked because he was a known trouble maker, but mine was dismissed because I had never done anything like that. Keep in mind that all we did was watch TV and play guitar, we had no intent of stealing anything. I did get 40 hours of community service. Anyways, according to the Army, because of this I was a less desirable candidate and wouldn't be able to acquire certain things throughout my military career, such as a Top Secret Clearance, and would always have this incident be considered when I was being looked at for promotions/other positions. I had one recruiter tell me I'd be lucky to be a cook. I also would have to go through a 6 month long process of interviews to determine my character/moral compass and paper work just to get into the military. I consider myself a good person, and I've never done anything illegal outside of that incident. I wasn't going to let the military hold me back because of one mistake I made 12 years ago. So I said screw the military, and went to my local community college where I have a scholarship that covers all my tuition and then some. I am part of the honors society as well as honors program, and am learning useful skills/obtaining a degree and certificates without having to sacrifice my freedom to the military. I wanted to serve in the Army since I was a young boy, but when I made the effort I felt shot down and was forced down a different path, a path I feel is the better choice.

[@michaelh9654]

Generally a dismissed charge from when you were a minor shouldn't have prevented you from joining. Did you ever consider looking into the Guard/Reserves?

[@MrAustyn88]

@@michaelh9654 It didn't completely deny me from serving. But I was told that I would certainly never be able to obtain a Top Secret clearance, and it would be more difficult to obtain a Secret clearance. I was much more restricted in my choices; one Army recruiter even told me to start out as a cook and obtain a different MOS after my first term. Another recruiter who specialized in recruits with criminal records told me that there are still plenty of options available, but the process would be longer. I would also have to go through several interviews to determine my integrity. It is the principle of it all for me. I would have liked to join the military but I strive to be the best in whatever I do and don't want to be held back by unfair pre-determined judgements on my integrity based on a stupid mistake when I was 8 or 9.

[@primo799]

Austyn Gillis why didn’t you just join the infantry then or another MOS

[@MrAustyn88]

@@primo799 It was the principle. I shouln't be judged unfit for certain things because of shit I did when I was 9 years old when I've been matured into a man with strong convictions and character. It wouldn't have been a problem if I could overcome my barriers and eventually get a Top Secret clearance, but I was told I could never do so. If the military is going to determine my character is flawed because of that, fine by me, there are infinitely more options for me.

[@primo799]

Austyn Gillis you don’t necessarily need a top secret clearance lol

[@kylev.1163]

5 years in, let me be the one to tell you that the bigger problem is keeping them in. The typical 9-5 army day is longer than a 9-5, consists of piss poor leadership belittling soldiers for not being good at a job that they themselves have little to no experience in doing, showing up to work and accomplishing absolutely nothing but meaningless tasks for incompetent and lazy seniors, online/check the block training, under-appreciation, blatant favoritism, barracks life, things of that sort. I could go on forever about why good soldiers get out, most of those reasons stem from bad soldiers who were obviously desperately recruited to just toxic leadership.

[@michaelkahn8903]

but no complaint about killing people. gotta love these guys.

[@kylev.1163]

@@michaelkahn8903 Do you have any idea what percentage of service members have actually killed somebody? Probably less than 20% at this point. The new military is becoming composed of inexpeirenced personnel who have either not deployed or not seen combat. The ones who have, usually aren't around much longer.

[@AJ-2-Toke]

@Caine Neal preach

[@VNRPro]

I got my promotable status to sergeant and still got out

[@VNRPro]

Tom G that’s why I got out It’s like they didn’t care , NCOs mattered more than anything in my BN

[@mrniceguy3344]

We would not have low recruitment rates if we had a war worth fighting for I apologize on behalf of young men who don’t want to be killed by an IED in a hostile country to please our “allies” in the Middle East

[@mikecose6122]

MrNice Guy Yeap, let Israel fight it's own wars! 😕

[@mrniceguy3344]

Timberwolf0n3 A lot of people were joining the military after 9/11. The problem is when we tried nation building.

[@mrniceguy3344]

Nobody is arguing that most people don't want to die. But the amount of people wanting to be recruited goes up during wars that are seen as worth fighting for (Defensive wars or as a way of getting revenge). You say WWII doesn't count, you say Afghanistan at its beginning doesn't count... I don't know what to say. People weren't happily volunteering for the Korean War but people were (more) willing to go to Afghanistan (at first) and in Asia and Europe in WWII.

[@anonwa4309]

not finna die for a country that doesn’t care about anyone my age

[@2004dale]

What’s your age?

[@LOLAP95]

Obviously young if hes complaining about others

[@comradecommissar311]

whatwhen999 rather die for my country than die for nothing like most people do

[@jayleno1222]

Nice job leaving us with literally no context.

[@ubon11]

Why do I need to care about you? What have you done for anyone other than yourself?

[@AngelAguilar-dg2gp]

*"Yeah man, just sign here and you'll get a 100k bonus and a new charger or camaro"* 😂

[@Jay-jb2vr]

Angel Aguilar hahaha

[@hollyrachels4295]

Lol so true

[@OTTBlindfishFG]

i got a 10,000 bonus and got my jeep with it. army is chill bro lol easy monehhhh

[@zombiekig9437]

Angel Aguilar only if you qualify for it

[@rebelmarion]

Not accurate

[@0percentraidwin752]

To the people saying the Military is a terrible choice, hear me out. My parents were both Sailors of the U.S. Navy, stationed with the 7th Fleet. Both college educated before, during and AFTER the Military. They have amazing benefits. My mother had a debilitating thyroid disease where they needed to be removed. The medicine she needs to survive is free for life. My mom's brother and his wife were Marines. They have an amazing security job and a government job respectivly that pays way above minimum wage. They both have college education. None of them ever saw combat even though they all served during the Golf War and some in Iraq. I am not white, but we are all U.S. citizens. Some naturalized, but Im a U.S. citizen born abroad. I am 18. Some College education, and enlisted in the Army. I plan on furthering my education during and afterwords. I have a 35N job in the Army after basic (Look it up). Everyone is different. Everyone's life is different. Dont ruin someone else's aspirations just because of your hate of the government.

[@Agent1W]

+Toggle [On] To have that kind of reliance on the government is a sad state of affairs in itself. I wouldn't want anyone to depend on government. That's not saying I hate the government, but Big Momma Fed just doesn't save people out of the goodness of her heart. She wants to make sure she gets her fill first and *maybe* she'll pull through for those in need.

[@johncochran5171]

Toggle [on]; I agree. Doing a commitment like putting your name on the line and raising your hand to give the Oath, good for you.There are many who would have liked to enlist, others that are too (struggling to be nice, here) could not ever manage the grit to know what it takes. Sure there are athletes and people who are good at whatever it is they do, but we have those in uniform as well. Those who would wait for invasion will have waited too long, Those who wait for the government to be shipshape, uncorrupted, and doing perfectly will have a long, long, long wait. Point to a country, any country, at any time in history when government was ideally and efficiently managed. Not going to happen. Note, I did not accuse any of these men of wearing pink knitted hats with kitten ears on them, so do not slam me for that. They want the privileges and freedoms unearned or truly appreciated.

[@adamsano5262]

dude you shouldn't have to explain this crap and good luck in your career and down range as a "ear to the ground" boy ;p from a friendly rescue ranger

[@esmileyva536]

Nicely said, Amen to that

[@ryanalving3785]

Good for you man, my brother joined the army; and he did signals intel too. He now has offers from private companies for when he gets out, and has learned almost two new languages doing training in Monterey California. Army is a good way to learn skills

[@joshwellman8322]

Recruiters really have mastered the art of lying right to your goddamn face

[@tubefreak3424]

on the real bro

[@raynaldchatillon7826]

that would be a great career for Trump after he's impeached...

[@porscheab.1039]

😅 Facts

[@xposebandwagons7777]

Chuck Finley ofc they want us to fight there wars while they sit back.

[@Julio_Absolute]

Yeah but thats the individuals fault too. Thats the first lesson of military life, don't trust your recruiter hah Do your own research.

[@Lstar07]

No one wants to die for billionaires, especially not for one who dodged the draft. 🤷‍♂️ I said what I said. Stay mad. 😁

[@LOLAP95]

Like 10% of every branch is infantry. You want to get paid to learn how to become a mechanic, cook, accountant, lawyer, etc. Every branch will have a spot for you. A BIG majority of people never even fire their weapon when deployed

[@heroroyden9513]

@@LOLAP95 No one wants to take the risk though. I do not blame them. I wanted to join but this is not a war i am passionate about and i a WILL not risk my life in a war that is not harming our freedom. We should have left by now. I get we went there after 9/11 and before but we should be done. It is only causing more american deaths are not needed.

[@miguelbermudez5426]

@@LOLAP95 i agree but most ppl do bullshit deployments too. I am a Navy vet and I did boat ops in Djibouti doing anti-piracy and I have taken down plenty of small craft trying to approach the harbor or trying to rob supply ships.

[@mr.patriotjol]

But yet im sure people like you praise the draft dodgers from Vietnam going to Canada and called our soldiers baby killers

[@oldsport2016]

Satan Air Force doesn’t even have infantry

[@NoHippieBBQCooking]

At leat 5% of the people i went to boot camp with in 87 were given a choice of jail or Marines by a judge . One just retired after 30 years. Some things should be overlooked

[@kingnothing5678]

*least

[@NoHippieBBQCooking]

@@kingnothing5678 you get the damn point

[@NewarkBrickCity1970]

@BatmanThat's no longer an option in today's military. This was common in the 70's and up to the mid 80's

[@themanplan987]

Lmfao its funny I just came here from that jarhead clip

[@Tbone1492]

The Prison system failed the Criminals drop out rate was to High they had to stop using it in the early 90's

[@zokotuckikazu3239]

I was a soldier in the U.S. Army for 5 years. I joined so I could get money for college and have life experiences. I got to travel the world and gain perspective on life, but if I had to do it again, knowing what I know now, I wouldn’t have. It doesn’t pay well, and you don’t get treated very well either. If you get injured, you are no longer useful and will get a medical discharge. Go to college, stay out of trouble and you’ll be fine. You don’t need to join the military to have a good life. But if you like to serve then do so. Just know that it won’t be easy and it doesn’t pay very well to be a service member.

[@solidsnake9477]

College? The place that doesn't guarantee success either with the loans?

[@oni2662]

Solid Snake So ignorant, nothing guarantee success but at least at College you will get knowledge and a degree if you choose well you could get a well paid job you will be alive whithout mental issues. If you go the military you probably die and surely you will have mental issues at the end even if you dont see any combat.

[@nightfighter7452]

Solid Snake even better, trade school

[@nightfighter7452]

Or become the next big thing in music lol

[@solidsnake9477]

Oni So ignorant. Nothing guarantees you success but at least with military you have some of the best training and education money can buy and puts you a step ahead of civilians including College graduates that expect to be handed a job just because they've spent 8 years in the classroom when they could've been learning through a trade school or online. You can die anywhere plus there's plenty of non combat jobs in the military like being an electrician or plumber. Hell, the military pays for your schooling so I don't see the point in going in debt to an expensive College.

[@Bigbrotheriswatchingus]

Maybe the suicides of 22 Vets a day has something to do with it?

[@limitess9539]

they should stay in the military and not get out then, duh.

[@darkworlddenizen]

Dethrone Idiocy Sounds like they're just losers in general then. Nothing the military can do about that.

[@reenry4510]

waiotahi52 Thats not the problem.

[@simunator]

went to college 5 yrs after high school, worst decision and time of my life. joined military after dropping out, best 4 years of my life so far.

[@ichtozavuzovsky8370]

what branch?

[@iamjuniorwizkid]

What branch did you join?

[@joefitzgerald2762]

Finally someone who isnt full retard against the military. I agree there are two sides but Ive had a hell of a time so far. Going on five years in the Corps, best decision of my life. College was the biggest waste of time, aside from allowing me to commission as an officer after my first 4 years as enlisted.

[@TraceLight]

Clearly you didn’t use college appropriately; and you certainly didn’t network. I got out of college with a 4 year degree, and after a few years of experience am now making over 6 figures with some side “opportunities” to help fund some nice things.

[@dannysapon7183]

Sound of Reason what he means is that college is not for everybody. Networking is a very important part of college but it also depends on what major you’re graduating with. I’m going to college right now but I’m living of my divídends yet I’m talking to my recruiter this Monday to join. I don’t like or dislike college I just wanna have a different experience form regular people.🤷🏽‍♂️

[@seanengelsen7267]

Sorry, but people like me got of the military out because we’re tired of being underpaid and seeing our friends die for the benefit of the top 1%. I’ll fight and die when my country needs me to fight and die.

[@mickeymorgan]

Will you ask why you are being told to kill and die? Or is blind faith the way to go?

[@seanengelsen7267]

Those around you? No. Its a question you have to ask yourself. And when you answer that question you'll understand and know what to do.

[@mickeymorgan]

I suggest asking those who want you to take over your life as to why they are asking such a thing. Not enough vets think to even bother . . . they just trust . . . we've all been trained to march in line. Thinking is dangerous.

[@seanengelsen7267]

Yeah some do and some don't, because there's no free will.

[@powderwigwoodenteethmf5037]

Sorry, but people like me are enlisting so we can get college tuition, housing, and healthcare. That way I can get a college degree that leads to a much higher paying job. I have to survive. I know I will be working and fighting for the elites, but what other choices do I have? I tired of having to choose healthcare over food. I tired of having to choose gasoline for my car over food, so I can go to work to make money. I’m tired of having to choose electricity over food, so I can have air conditioning during the summer. I’m tired of barely living and barely surviving. If it means selling my soul in a 4 year contract to better my life, I’ll do it. I’m not resort to petty crimes to live. At least I know my ear crimes within the US military will go unanswered. I’m willing to throw my morals and values away for 4 years in a contract so I can better my life and live

[@scottmactavish9716]

Show me an Army recruiter that doesn't lie to prospects, and I'll show you an empty chair.

[@joncund8021]

Scott Mactavish how do they lie

[@Kstunnnaman23]

well for one, that one young recruiter towards the end of the video was totally full of shit.

[@DCole506]

They can’t tell you a lie because unless you sign a contract guaranteeing what your MOS will be, they have no idea what route you will apply yourself for in the military. The military experience isnt for everyone, and you get out of it exactly what you put into it. I went to meps in that exact same louisville building 2 years ago, and i can tell you that VICE news is 100% misleading its viewers with the spin that it throws on often accurate information. It’s a liberal news source so that makes sense, but they just showed recruiters and kids in my hometown saying things that they would never normally say.

[@alexkrasnic3850]

Your so woke.... not

[@goodgirlkay]

Robert Mackrell And you still joined? Wtf? LMBAO!

[@dadinggo]

I love all the people who act like allowing people in who smoke weed is some lower standard when I met a million marines when I lived in so cal that were by definition full blown alcoholics.

[@jesswho9210]

FreedomFighter I don't think thats what people are worried about, they're probably more worried about what else "lower standards" would mean

[@M81_WOODLAND]

FreedomFighter and yet the military has all this bullshit programs in place for alcoholics. " Look we've tried to help you...it's not our fault. "

[@taoliu3949]

FreedomFighter They've always given waivers for weed. It's the psychological issues that they're starting to issue waivers for (eg. cutters)

[@brig.gen.georgiiisserson7226]

Smoking weed isn’t even that bad tho

[@amazingman63]

yes it is i have a bag of legal weed right here

[@brandonwilliams4892]

On going war in Afghanistan that will possibly be 20 years is an absolute deterrent.

[@josephkorpitz4967]

Relaxing standards is THE WORST thing that can be done to a military.

[@michaelkahn8903]

WHEN DID MILITARY HAVE ANY SMARTS?

[@philipfry9436]

But diversity and the lgbt! Think of all the colored peoples in need of representation.

[@ezikielharris5620]

@@philipfry9436 ahhhh philip, thankyou for knowing nothing but still taking on behalf of millions of people. nobody want to join no army coz us niggas fighting our own war.

[@Eskmm1]

inb4 they reintroduce penal soldiers and start arresting soldiers to save money.

[@Elenrai]

@@philipfry9436 yeah because all gay men are fruity stereotypes. cmere and let my fist kiss your jaw and lets see how fruity I am?

[@absoluteManiac]

"alright, you did extremely well, you scored a 40"

[@СергейВласов-и5ю]

I did not notice that 😂

[@dj_menyo839]

did he even look at the screen? I thought he pressed CTL+ALT+DEL twice. and was like... CONGRATULATIONS YOU ARE IN!!!!

[@philthethotdestroyer4194]

@@dj_menyo839 she took the practice test it eimmediately tells you ur score its like 20 questions the real asvab takes like 3 hours

[@taureanantoine1164]

@@entousentous1249 You have apparently never served. The ASVAB is the 1st thing you take before you even qualify to go to MEPS. Why would the Army spend money to send soldiers to basic training and then have them take the ASVAB when they could possibly fail? You take the ASVAB before doing any enlistment paperwork because you need certain scores to qualify.

[@chroniclethality3864]

On the AFQT the score has to be higher than 31 so a 40 is pretty good, now on the ASVAB however, a 40 is pretty pathetic.

[@thickymcghee7681]

Nah, I am good. I am not interested in joining to get the Koch family more oil for their refineries.

[@IllyrSenk]

Yap. Rothschild

[@dj_menyo839]

@@IllyrSenk bilderberg group...?

[@IllyrSenk]

@@dj_menyo839 No, just private citizen from Croatia. Ex soldier, wounded in Croatia-serbian war, now in pension. Difference is that I know what I was fighting for. US soldiers go overseas for a reason I mentioned before.

[@michaelkahn8903]

yes, you are good.

[@jsm530]

I love this section. I wish more people knew who those neocon thugs are. Let them line up and fight these wars.

[@katferguson]

I’m so glad I enlisted in 1991 & got the hell out in 2000. The military has gone straight to hell. If you’re thinking about enlisting DON’T!!! Standards are non-existent these days.

[@blank1blank249]

Spartans weren't feared for having numbers they were feared for being deadly skillful warriors.

[@maxben3391]

Spartans were useless and left alone to die forgotten while everyone else moved ahead of them. Of course that's after they allied with the Persians to undermine democracy.

[@prashnaveetprasad8339]

Eric Siple no that's samurai

[@wisemankugelmemicus1701]

Prashnaveet Prasad Actually, the Spartans did.

[@drakkon12]

@@flamesis tell that to the Prussians

[@johndugg423]

@@flamesis Facts Preech 🔥

[@crand20033]

My roommate told me that it was not a good experience (in Iraq) and if he had it to do over again he would not have joined the army. .

[@anthonyroberts2678]

No one wants to commit war crimes for the banksters!!!

[@Rone-ki1hm]

"Army is the hardest to recruit for" Marine Corps: "Hold my camelback"

[@anvg2902]

hold my bcp standards

[@mariekatherine5238]

Which would you rather say? “I’m a Marine veteran.” or. “I’m an Army veteran.” Anyway you put it, Marines get more respect!

[@LawAcieIV]

Would you rather get paid more for the same job or less. If you answered less congratulations you are qualified for the marines.

[@Rone-ki1hm]

@LawAcieIV we get payed the exact same for more work since we're low on manpower. Meanwhile the army has so much of it they're like a beurocracy.

[@abeham3103]

LawAcieIV lol yup that’s why I joined army 😁

[@soonersquad2757]

I enlisted in 2013 U.S. Army infantry The army isn’t how I thought it would be . Honestly I was disappointed. But I went through it with A group of guys and made the best of it.

[@redleader6186]

The Wolverine Bullshit like what?

[@redleader6186]

How did you think it would be? How was it in reality? Why were you disappointed?

[@stevenmartinez6213]

Sooner squad thought it was gonna be like Call of duty. Smh

[@jesswho9210]

Sooner Squad could you elaborate? Because I'm considering joining and you've got me concerned now lol

[@asafox6550]

Toughest to recruit for, no other employer has the ability to jail those who just can’t take it anymore.

[@thisismyname1701]

@Chris Ruiz it just depends if you get dis honorly discharged then theyll kick you out if you just left then you can go to jail

[@ws8061]

@Chris Ruiz true it came off as a little dramatic but my employer now can't stop me from going home sick and doesn't confine me to my workplace and take 1/2 months pay x2 if I no call no show......

[@handsomesquidward5160]

I thought the marines were the toughest to recruit for.

[@RaisingPhoenix]

“Lower standards” isn’t entirely a bad thing. I was previously disqualified for a freaking penicillin allergy. The smallest thing can disqualify someone. I got a waiver thanks to the increase.

[@frankstrawnation]

A penicillin allergy isn't a small thing by any stretch of the imagination.

[@RaisingPhoenix]

frankstrawnation I got a rash once as a baby and have successfully avoided it ever since. Yeah, completely debilitating condition.

[@ammar9909]

I have a penicillin allergy too. I got a rash and fever they said if I ever take penicillin again it has a chance of killing me. So allergies are no small thing especially if it is a go to medicine and they may not have your file in a field hospital

[@Agent1W]

+RaisingPhoenix I thought they just give people like you erythromycin. That's what everyone I knew who was allergic to penicillin got.

[@RaisingPhoenix]

Agent1W Yep, my older brother has the same thing and when he joined they gave him an allergy tag and just substituted the antibiotics. I have no clue why they chose to disqualify me for it.

[@junkyardjoe1419]

Seeing that army recruiter with the fallout figurine on his desk like "bro how hard did you miss the point of the series".

[@undersc0r]

Dr tho

[@imaterminator]

The problem is, people not in the military don't know how the military is actually like.

[@JTruong77]

finally someone who understands

[@joshuasoto55]

Luckily I have a brother in the Marines and an Uncle that used to be in the AF to tell me what it was like, still enlisted though

[@juancena1117]

JadenPatricks um. They got rid of the draft. In this day an age a war with any Powerfull country is a war nobady wins. War with russia. The world gets nuked. The US simply doesnt need weak humans anymore they need bombs and drones

[@warren5729]

imaterminator couldn’t of said it better myself.

[@tcr2237]

imaterminator exactly

[@infobahnpirate9713]

Dying for banks and politicians. No thank you.

[@Devildog-jl9ei]

Actually I don’t personally see it this way. You may, but for me it’s not about that. I see myself on the battlefield dying for the US military (hoping to join the marines in 5 years). I see myself dying for the few and for the proud and for all the others that had passed on before me. I don’t respect the politicians unless they themselves had experienced it. I’m sure we both can agree that we don’t respect the government, but I’d rather die fighting for something than die for nothing.

[@TryABaconSlice]

There are still many valuable ways to spend your life which dont involve bleeding out in the sand and fertilising the poppy field your watching over my man. Its all very well and good dying for the sake of your brothers in arms but when the sum total of all that sacrifice equates to nothing, then it really is like throwing your life away

[@infobahnpirate9713]

TryABaconSlice well said man. 👍🏻

[@infobahnpirate9713]

Devil dog 1918 see yourself living a life with your family, don’t be in a hurry to die for a government that doesn’t take care of its people when they come back home.

[@Devildog-jl9ei]

TryABaconSlice: I know it may seem like just a waist of life but to me, I believe I was born on to this planet fight for something I love. I know there are many other ways I can go spend my life to have fun with family and friends but I want to be sent on the front lines so that people like that can do what they love also. And mostly, like I said before, I’d rather die fighting for something than die for nothing.

[@OoOoQualityoOoO]

Legalize weed smoking in the military, and youll get an easy 20,000 troops.

[@debergerac9609]

疑わしい lmao so true

[@oscarangeles6728]

I would tbh

[@memeboi8880]

疑わしい erm i wouldent want a bunch of high soilders walking around base not knowing what they are doing, sexual crimes may rise and domestic violence will defentily rise

[@bagvisontv272]

On god 😂😂

[@westafricandiamonds4387]

疑わしい More like 2 million or more.

[@himusardar8329]

Let's join the military to fight for the rich people. But John Bolton and Trump's family won't join unfortunately.

[@Stoneface_]

Big Chungus you have a stupid person name

[@constantinshim4271]

Rich people’s kids fight too. Also, don’t act like it’s mandatory, the military is voluntary. Rich people earned their money, don’t be mad at them because you didn’t.

[@WhenInDarknessSeekTheLight]

@@constantinshim4271 If by earned you mean stole then yes.

[@constantinshim4271]

@@WhenInDarknessSeekTheLight The real theft happening is the government unfairly taxing the rich more than the poor. That is the real class-discrimination.

[@vietimports]

why should i die for a country that doesnt care about me

[@i-never-look-at-replies-lol]

vietimports because another country that doesn't care about you will come and kill you?

[@meowrage9165]

Were not in ww1 or ww2 so you just basically throwing your life away

[@oyemrkrabs6084]

Mexico AKA illegal immigrants from mexico LOL

[@DaBeastPony43]

Colonel 100 Doesn't matter because the only reason they haven't is cause of the military and the 2nd amendment. No one in their right mind would invade a country with an armed population and a huge military.

[@blacksand5882]

vietimports you are so right our country doesn't want to help any of us in it unless we're rich or connected to the right people. Instead of giving billions of dollars to us we give it to others countries thru bombs or to the rich thru tax cuts

[@FluffyHawk13]

No one wants to join because they realize that its hard to get a job in civilian life. People see a lot of homeless Vets and dont want that to happen to them....

[@FluffyHawk13]

IMxYOURxDADDY ignoring a growing problem I see.

[@FluffyHawk13]

playah That too, thats the main reason I never joined...

[@jeremyserwer2586]

homeless vets make up about 300,000 of the homeless population and veterans committing suicide at a rate of 22 a day. The military will use you up and shit you out if you don't want to stick around for endless wars. Don't serve!

[@luminate4419]

This guy is a recruiter☝️

[@chuckfarson5594]

DeathHawk713 it goes much deeper than that..but I'm sure that might be apart of it..but definitely not the sole reason.

[@Brillemeister]

Watch for "support the troops" propaganda to ramp up concurrent with this recruitment push. Those old enough to remember 9/11 will be familiar with the same type of messaging.

[@Andy-im3kj]

Brillemeister yup their "recruitment problems" along with their lowered standards and waivers is the same thing that was going on during Bush's time during 9/11.

[@arch1028]

Its already happening with all these Army Ads

[@travonedmond9838]

Been happening nothing new. Military ads are on EVERY channel all day long

[@oldtimedrumcorps]

Couple of sniper movies will do the trick

[@trillinflossin412]

so why should someone who has smoked weed be denied the chance to serve the country?

[@kentstallard6512]

How any informed person with a conscience could enlist is mind-boggling. The military doesn't fight to protect our citizens, but for corporate interests. And few if any of the people who send brave young men and women into harms way would allow THEIR sons and daughters to see the front lines. Marine Corps Gen. Smedley Butler stated all of this decades ago in his "War Is A Racket" piece.

[@KoltKares]

HAHAHHAHAHAHA

[@lincolnsand5127]

Smedley Butler's "War is a Racket" was written during a very specific time (the so-called 'imperialist age' of American foreign policy) when the US overtly intervened in support of banana companies (banana wars, which Butler was actively involved in) and sugar plantations. This really isn't that much of the case anymore. Like, sure, the overthrow of Iraq in Operation Ajax and the Guatemalan coup were caused by oil and fruit interests, but Eisenhower didn't authorize them for that reason. Most conflicts since WW2 have objectively not been about resources or corporate interests. Sure, there is the Iraq war, but that's mostly an outlier for the most part. Also, re: sending people abroad: multiple US presidents, the current US president's son, and even Prince Harry of the UK all have served in the military in active duty warzones. I just felt like replying because people seem to blindly say "Smedley Butler 'War is a Racket'" without appreciating the different foreign policy and world that existed then vs now.

[@kentstallard6512]

@@lincolnsand5127 Yes, most have definitely been about corporate interests. Iran, Iraq, Afghanistan.

[@lincolnsand5127]

@@kentstallard6512 re: Afghanistan; Afghanistan wasn't about corporate interests though. It had to do with the Taliban sheltering Osama Bin Laden. There was definitely some profiteering going on during the implementation of the actual occupation (especially because the Afghanistan government was pretty corrupt), but there's no evidence the reason for initially waging the war was about corporate interests. Such a claim doesn't even make sense when you look at the evidence.

[@lincolnsand5127]

Like, you can talk about what Johnny Harris did in his video "Here's who really won the War in Afghanistan", but again, that had to do with war profiteering (especially by the MIC) from the implementation of the occupation, not the reason for the war or its goal/motivation.

[@politicalgypsy5348]

I'm glad young people are thinking hard before signing up for the military.....

[@Prince-pb1vf]

Political Gypsy Why ??? Is it hard to be in the army ?

[@dannyflex8155]

Political Gypsy you act like it’s a bad thing lol .

[@Theultimategamer2057]

Political Gypsy regret it rn

[@AWMC2023]

Dannyy Flex you go into the military, you come home, and then you’re dropped on your ass with PTSD and no government help. Sounds great

[@dannyflex8155]

Little Bunny lol I’m in now and I’m doing pretty great .

[@nikolai3620]

What money? The US Army pays a shit wage which is funny considering the budget they're allotted.

[@nikolai3620]

Thats not unique to the US army. You could serve in the Canadian Forces where we only just recently boosted the budget from a paltry $16 billion and still get paid %50 more. Or better yet, serve in the Australian Defence Force and get paid even more on top of that! Both of whom pay for schooling. Point being that the US military cuts costs where it's most important. With their own damn soldiers. You know, the ones out there actually risking their lives. Better paid soldiers make for a better fighting force and every other developed nation seems to acknowledge that except for the US, which is ironic, considering how much they exalt their own troops.

[@marvange2498]

No not really they did research in to this and most make more over a life time than those who never were in so your point is dumb. I did 21yrs in the navy. And am set am 45yrs old two paid off house's and work part time for the hell of it ..lol most people my age are working there tails off trying to pay off one house . And I know lot of other vets just like me . So you must have never been in . So you sould not comment..

[@marvange2498]

@@nikolai3620 lol I trained with Canadian troops we get treated much better the cost of living is more in Canada and there benefits are less.

[@nikolai3620]

@@marvange2498 Tell me what you get that we don't. And I am in the forces, so yeah I'll keep commenting thanks. Show me the "research" that you speak of.

[@mymicks21]

Just do what Canada did. Let the army grow beards, buy their own boots and get reimbursed, and smoke weed. There is a rumor that we are going to relax the standards for haircuts too .

[@raf25985]

Buddy went to Afghan said they guarded poppy fields , basically security service for big pharma ... word gets out

[@Hunter.McKinney]

Yeah? That's crazy because I've worked with folks who flew helicopters in the Army and they would target and destroy poppy fields so they couldn't be sold for cash to fund terror organizations.

[@dj_menyo839]

@@Hunter.McKinney yea, as in any illicit drug industry. you always target your competitor's crops...

[@Beast.unit0]

Lmao bullshitter of the year here

[@michaelkahn8903]

you ever notice that vets talk about their buddies, their medals, but dont say a word about the action. they become loners and outsiders. do you see them walk tall when you thank them for their service... think...these guys are deep in shame and hiding what they did.

[@jsm530]

@@michaelkahn8903 Definitely true. Most are weird and jaded.

[@Matt-uy8tw]

I always thought enlisting in the military is like volunteering to be a prisoner.

[@tristen4142]

Rakko Chan How?

[@golgo13fan53]

Oh, it is.

[@gdangbravo597]

You’ve always thought wrong then

[@thetaikonaut8397]

It’s kind of true in a sense

[@primordialbias8711]

Not necessarily. As I understand it, because I've never been in the military so take it with a grain of salt, you get weekends off, holidays off, sometimes four day weekends and other crap, you get 30 days of vacation a year, a steady pay check, free housing, free-ish food, free clothing (Kind of), etc., and you usually have the evening to yourself after 5 PM unless something comes up and you need to stay longer. Unless you're deployed to a combat zone, then you're at work 24/7, and you can't really leave the military until your contract is up. But in general, it does have it's ups and downs.

[@edgararanasoria48]

They should focus in keeping the people who already in the military.

[@peters840]

arcangel 1190 people don’t live forever...

[@tomassmith2312]

Everyone sick and tired of all these useless Wars

[@gamerhistorian7843]

Re-Actvity the draft

[@Dominickudo]

Burak Coskun but they're the ones that own the army you idiot.

[@pharaoh4866]

Tomas Smith "BAHH BAAHHH." I'm sorry did you say something sheepman?

[@thedankknight5558]

Nope just America and that's the problem

[@Malangakhona]

Dropping standards? Damn shame.😩

[@michaelpreston233]

I enlisted back in the 80's, THANK GOD !

[@Hairy.Whodini]

Trump's weaker Army is a joke.

[@michaelpreston233]

Where's his Tea bag America First , Bundy Ranch Warriors that FUX loved and the GOP looked over?

[@politicaltwinkie2370]

Peter L. people are not paying attention.

[@larryr5467]

Bobbs - this is some bullshit, losing the standards is not good what happened to being the one percent.

[@HumanBieng1]

Back in high school I was serious about joining the army, but then I realized there’s no point in joining if we are not being threatened nor invaded. I support those who serve and protect our country though in times like this, but if a threat were to happened I’d join without even thinking about it

[@jerrylipe9962]

Let the damn rich go fight they are the one's who benefit the most

[@VerdeMorte]

I want you to go to war for problems I caused, to make up for debt I created. HELL NO.

[@keinunvergebenesaliasgefunden]

VerdeMorte , you are a genius. I would give you a free H1B visa if i were leader of a nation state. But i am a nobody. At least a nobody in a nation state where censorship is forbidden by the state's constitution.

[@titanslayer7789]

When exactly did Trump do this

[@joshschnaithman]

Titan Slayer maybe watch the video stupid. Says it in the introduction.

[@titanslayer7789]

hsoj josh pH and Trump also didn't start these wars so he can't be blamed for that either now if Bush was still president this comment would make sense but he's not

[@kashedgaming]

VerdeMorte that’s why it’s all volunteer mate

[@zakiabdi8143]

The possibility of dying for what, oil & the security of Israel? Focus on yourself and your community.

[@jatinrustagi9763]

@Oz Oz people died for Obama too

[@user-vp9lc9up6v]

Nah you can get a good resume off of the Airforce don't need to care wgat your fighting for just care for yourseld

[@user-vp9lc9up6v]

@Oz Oz Jost join the Coast gaurd lmao

[@user-vp9lc9up6v]

@Oz Oz will you join mu cult

[@humbertocobian4740]

You sound like a disciple of muhammad.

[@ThatBronxgirl7]

I haven't heard anyone say "I love this country and I want to give back. I want to protect the USA."

[@ypvisuals5222]

Because thats no longer a realistic answer...

[@brucecampbell4528]

It's always a realistic answer.

[@ypvisuals5222]

justin holmes That’s what they “expect” you to say and I’ve always thought it was a mundane answer if asked why you joined. I respect them if someone answers this, but also respect someone who gives other SOLE reasons. Money, college, traveling, etc. 🤷🏽‍♂️

[@emmanueltruths]

Regina Johnson My freedoms are NOT in the middle east. Wake up already

[@ypvisuals5222]

Kim Waldrop Thank you for realizing what’s true.

[@JTruong77]

If you join the military, it does NOT mean you will die. There is certain jobs you can apply for. They send you where ever they need you to go, it's not just the middle east.

[@solidsnake9477]

Shhhhhh, the indoctrinated kids don't understand logic.

[@quentin4221]

Dream on

[@JTruong77]

Barry Allen Porter you act like everybody who joins the military gets fucking trapped lmao. What a joke, if you never served, you never know. Some veteran will tell you their experience but it won’t change the way you feel if you have joined.

[@matthewhernandez8342]

MartiaN IOS sounds like a complete waste of time, fighting for a corrupt government.

[@mrjack901]

Maybe most people are afraid of dying, but I think the biggest reason, it's that they don't want to travel half the world, for a government that they don't believe in

[@glennmiddleton3324]

To the haters, don't attack the military or the people they serve in. Yes you have every right to hate war, just don't hate the personnel who wear the uniform.

[@Projeectt]

Glenn Middleton why respect People who accept to kill civilians for money? Everyone know that USA goes to war for material gain

[@alexleyden4080]

I served and I promise you it’s a waste of our mo why and American lives. I speak out every chance I get to warn people of the lies that where fighting for “freedom” I have to say though you have to be pretty blind to enlist in the American armed forces thinking your doing the American people a service.

[@haidengeary8277]

Pretty easy to say its not soldiers, they follow orders. But hey, THEY join. Too many stupid people , all gung go, jump in attack helis and murder innocent people. If you follow orders and it gets innocent people killed, you're a murderer. Not suggesting its wide-spread, but it happens... And with intent.

[@floridaman4268]

Well said

[@MagniGames]

Every single person I know who's joined the military after 1990 has joined because "it'd be dope", or "to kill some fuckers"... I have no respect for the vast majority of them anymore...

[@brandonboudreau235]

I’m not going to lie, the Army was one of the best experiences I’ve had in my life. The Army also did a lot of things that had pissed me off and my experience in the Washington state National Guard has been worse. I remember 9/11. I was in elementary school at the time. Fast forward 10 years and I was deployed with 1st ID and Bin Laden was killed that year while I was in country. My favorite times in the military was when I was deployed and I even re-enlisted to chase another deployment with a different unit and since I left active duty service I’ve served as a contractor overseas. I will say that over the years since 2011 I don’t know why we’re still in Afghanistan. There are good people in that country sure but the reality is that doesn’t go for the majority. They’re tribal people that will never come together to form one singular nation because of petty differences. They’ll never be a United strong nation because they don’t care and they don’t want it bad enough. I want my friends to stop having to risk their lives for a country where it’s people don’t give a shit about anything and I think the country has started to realize this war that is approaching 2 decades has become pointless and even the most patriotic Americans that are 100% behind our troops realize the sacrifices made by our men and woman are becoming pointless. The only thing left to fight for over there is each other.

[@lukelim5094]

Brandon Boudreau Good point. why do even Trump care about that place is eluding me. Its been dragging on since 1979.... US care about that place due to Soviet influence in the beginning. Then it is about Osama and Taliban....If it was me... i will pull everything out, put military in more stable middle east neighbour country and say "You fuckers get your act together yourselves, im not helping anymore, if you dare to caused me trouble, im coming back for your ass again" I met geniue nice afghan people in a financial conference once. They say they want peace and really mean it but damn it taking too long man!

[@s.a.charles271]

Elaborate on the guard experience? I’m curious

[@brandonboudreau235]

Scott Cinsey. Let me start off first by saying that my Platoon in Guard was one of the best Platoons I’ve ever been assigned to. Never in my life did I think I would say that about the Guard. However, I joined the Guard immediately after leaving active duty in the summer of 2015. I spent about 5 months with the unit before I found a job as a contractor overseas and to go to an Inactive drilling status in order to go. During my first initial 5 months I was never issued any gear. When I did train I had to beg, barrow or use civilian gear in order to sustain myself out in the field as well as sustain myself when I volunteered to fight wild fires in Washington state that summer of 2015. Let’s fast forward a year to my return from employment overseas to November of 2016. I came home around Thanksgiving and then in the beginning of December of 16 I informed my unit that I had returned and was ready to come back to the unit. It took from December of 16 until August of 2017 for me to finally get orders bringing me back to active drilling status with the unit. All because of me....I was the one that kept calling and following up. Apparently paperwork kept getting lost or people wouldn’t send things up to next highest level but eventually I returned. From August of 2017 it took until April of 2018 to finally receive equipment. By that time I had decided I was done. I had done numerous training exercises in rain, wind, and snow without gear other then things that I went out and bought with my own money to survive in the field. I remember doing a machine gun range at the Yakima training center in March in civilian rain gear and being asked by a Sergeant Major why I was wearing civilian gear. When I told him my unit hasn’t issued me gear his response was, “oh somebody has failed you Sergeant.” It’s now July 2018 and I just got done with my last training exercise with my guard unit last month when we went back to Yakima for 3 weeks on Annual Training. 3 weeks without gear because when they did finally issues it to me back in April I had to return it back to the unit in May. 3 weeks of losing money because even as an E5 the army does not pay me as well as my civilian job. 3 weeks of sitting in a barracks going to the gym and watching the World Cup losing money all because the commander wanted his numbers to look good. I didn’t train with the guys, I didn’t do anything productive for the unit, I lost money, I spent time away from family and for what? Nothing. I did nothing while I was there. Overall the Guard at least here in Washington State was a waste of my time and money. There’s the elaboration for you. Sorry about writing you a small book.

[@s.a.charles271]

Brandon Boudreau, thanks for your reply! May I ask what your MOS was? And from your observations can that be a factor in someone’s experience?

[@berzerker1100]

Brandon Boudreau Same with this North Korea/ So. KOREA BS, a lot of Good Americans, fought and died in KOREA Korean war part two again ? HELL NO ! Let both Koreas Duke it out Handle their own Biz. When are we gonna get out of there ? They're all coming over here Koreatown Lawd have Mercy!

[@sgnavy2006]

Lost 100lbs to get in and went to meps passed the Asvab just to come back to be told that I can't join bc a surgery I had on my eyes when i was born. I wear corrective lenses. If I didn't tell you about it you wouldn't even know. They have jobs like cooks ect. Where I wouldn't need perfect vision and u have someone like me who is eager to join but here I am lol

[@xaviervalentine1150]

@byob772 rip 🪦 if you don’t have perfect vision you can’t fly (from what I remember)

[@Magnulus76]

That's really lousy because there are plenty of non-combat roles plus you could wear glasses. The navy even has to allow people with deuteuranomaly because so many men have trouble with red and green colorblindness (about 5 percent).

[@The_Lunch_Man]

As much as I am against military expansion, looser standards is not a good idea. The standing military is good enough, and lowering standards is not the way to go. That’s what killed the Roman Empire’s military.

[@Demicleas]

1M0RTAL_CH1CKEN at first it works but then people realse "hey they are so weak 1 guy can kill 100 of them" then you know the rest

[@RandomDude1692]

What caused the collapse of the Roman Empire, and by extension the Roman Military. Isn't solely based on changes of standards. There were far more cultural and economic issues that arose, as well as larger powers that caused an immense amount of pressure on an already strained system.

[@njabikaesein3431]

We ain't the Roman empire.

[@maxhill9254]

@Ben Schweitzer: True, I see many parallels to the US. It's interesting to see that the US seems to suffer similar effects. A corrupt political system which primarily serves the rich, huge economic dependence from foreign places/ countries (China, Middle-East), overstretched and extremely costly military which can't deal with asymmetrical warfare efficiently (Vietnam, Afghanistan, Iraq). This culminates in a visible decline of power.

[@p.taylor981]

1M0RTAL_CH1CKEN what killed them was allowing barbarian forces to initiate onto their ranks

[@raywalteroutdoors]

I was a C student. A jock and that's it. I wasn't stupid I just didn't care. I never thought about my future I lived in the moment. At 16 I did not have a car. My parents were more than capable of buying me one but my father said no. So, I called a recruiter and on my 17th birthday I enlisted in the Army Reserve so I could get $300/mo to buy a car. I went to basic between my Jr-Sr highschool years. Although I was an accomplished athlete I think I finally found inspiration. I wanted to be a helicopter pilot and although this story does not end with that achievement due to injury I had a desire to do something no one I knew was doing. The problem, I screwed around too much and did not have the grades to go to aeronautical school. So, I applied to 1 college..a military academy. It was hard especially for a kid who never cared about schoolwork. Over 2 years I continued to wrestle at the collegiate level but the majority of my time was spent learning to study. I basically had to reprogram my brain to care about my education. After 2 years I was commissioned as a 2LT and transferred to the National Guard while I pursued my bachelor's degree at Penn State who wouldn't have given me the time of day before the military academy. I graduated with honors and #2 in my class. From there I went on to retire from the Army as a Infantry Operations Officer just a few credits short of a PhD. In total I owed about $2,000 in tuition after 7 years of education. I now work in state government where everyone takes me seriously. I often wonder what they would think of me if they knew what I was like when I was younger. Honestly, the Army didn't save me as I would have figured something out but it gave me direction and a purpose. I sit here today as a disabled vet, combat vet, various achievements to include a bronze star. I collect a pension in my 30s while I work towards another pension. My 16 year old self would have never imagined this. If it wasn't for the Army I'd likely have 20 years seniority in a factory and while that's a necessary occupation I don't think I would be happy today if the spark lit to do something bigger than myself and I had no options. For anyone who thinks your military service is just good while you are in I am evidence that it is a major step in setting you up for future success in life. Even if you do 4 and out maybe you'll find some motivations in life you never knew you had. Oh, I did get accepted to flight school and while I was awaiting school to begin I got the call to deploy and unfortunately was injured. It happens... get back up and keep going.

[@jeffersonclippership2588]

Curt Walter k

[@dmzmagic]

Thats awesome bro. I still think most people do not want to join the military it fucking blows. Even if it does provide that meaning people need in life.

[@deadbeatbillionaires]

great story, I wonder what the 1.500,000 million dead middle east civilians would have accomplished if the USA would just stop the geopolitical genocide

[@georgelaymen2953]

Curt I got your story and very meaningful. It is amazing what a person can do with a little direction, persistence and commitment. Its been a factor that many generations in the past has said lack in young people. I am now the older generation and have a similar story and somewhat concerned what we have produced. Reading these comments makes we believe my grandfathers assumption was correct . I hope you keep telling your story and sorry to hear about your injuries that kept you from fulfilling your original goal and inspiration. However it seems you gained much more.

[@raywalteroutdoors]

NINTH SWINE Thank you. I will always tell my story. I won't glamorize the military but I won't bash it. Younger generations have more options than we did and a different view of war so it's hard to express yourself to them but I know there is always 1 kid out there who has amazing potential and is lost in his future planning process. If this story helps him explore the opportunity then my job is done here.

[@user-ns3vs3bp3e]

Looser standards is a bad idea a higher skill smaller group is better than a less able mass of people as every special forces group demonstrates

[@odscanadiann1453]

like canada’s military

[@taylormotyl5085]

300

[@mirjanapucarevic2105]

Yes i think you make sense Napoleon said something like that!

[@limitess9539]

"300" is an exception because that was a long time ago, times have changed. The persians didn't even knew that much of Greek geography, and they had a conscript army versus a professional army raised in hell from birth. Times have indeed changed...

[@aaronfutterer89]

Limitess why would you bring up Vietnam, that's a horrible example of Special Operations Forces being out numbered. For every 200 VC killed 1 SEAL died. Those are great odds in a large scale war. There is a need for infantry but Special Operations Forces won't get taken out by large numbers of infantry that's not usually how it works, they aren't just sent to kill 1000 infantry soldiers from the enemy army. Special Operations Forces do specific things

[@MrIhavedonuts]

When she said money I laughed. When she said travel I laughed even harder. When asked where she wants to go to be stationed. I bet she said Hawaii and ended up in fort drum 😂

[@endlessadventure541]

Stop fighting and start fixing bridges and roads!!!!!

[@ReapTheWhirlwind]

My stepdad did stuff like that when he was in the National Guard. Except it was usually in a poor country that the US was aiding.

[@endlessadventure541]

Killing's more fun.

[@ReapTheWhirlwind]

Jonathan C. Killing isn't fun, it's a regretfully necessary action undertaken for the safety of millions of people when you're in the military. People who enjoy killing are generally the ones who don't make it back because once they leave the warzone they can no longer satisfy their desire to kill and end up eating their own gun. If they manage not to kill themselves then you get ticking time bombs like Timothy McVeigh, whose racist ideology was nursed in the bosom of my very own Buffalo metropolitan area.

[@mr.garrison6947]

where in gods name your from couse i am in florida and they allways doing that

[@thedankknight5558]

Ok lets just drop our whole military and their work. Let's see how long it takes for you to change your view on this.

[@heyheyhey40]

Loser standards!? That is going to have horrific long term effects!

[@coltoncarrington2407]

Joe T it's only the army who is abandoning standards. But I'm curious what affect you are most concerned with

[@jwooktv]

Joe T Soon it’ll be Soy Boys in uniforms with pink guns and designer camo

[@coltoncarrington2407]

حمزة جروزني I notice you have the Taliban flag on your profile. If you are one of them I hope I can meet you out there if I am lucky enough to be one of the marines that deploys to Afghanistan

[@caseylopez7152]

"hey we need more recruits!" "Hey why not lower the tattoo standards" nope

[@cooper_boi4393]

Joe T they always tighten and loosen standards. They typically loosen them when we’re in war and tighten them at peace time. Or in this case when they are asked to recruit a specific number. If quantity increases quantity decreases.

[@__Crispy___]

Maybe if MEPS weren’t denying waivers for every medical issue under the sun more people would be enlisting...”Oh you scraped your knee when you were 7? Sorry, unfit for military service.”

[@quentin4221]

Bull shit. I broke my collarbone when I was 3 and let me in. In any case, the only people who should be fighting this next war are white people. since they love violence so much let them have at it.

[@andrewmiller4708]

I feel you sorry you right m8, you just gotta lie like your recruiter tells you it sucks that it has to be that way meps is abit broken.

[@solidsnake9477]

That's the main reason why people ain't joining. Because they tell the people at MEPS their injuries and the recruiters don't want to deal with it.

[@zorth4729]

It's a mixed bag, really. Many people aren't let in due to mild nut allergies they had during their childhood. The standards are a bit arbitrary.

[@ainzooalgown7589]

lowering the standard, be prepared to have a body bag surplus

[@26michaeluk]

Exactly what I said.

[@Maluhia808]

Unless we create super soldiers if we even have that technology

[@raphuscucullatus7845]

@@Maluhia808 Super Soldiers are a stupid idea, we'll still fight conventional wars against unconventional enemies, we'll still lose men.

[@Maluhia808]

@@raphuscucullatus7845 i agree what your saying but pretty soon robot might replace them .

[@Maluhia808]

@Bear Bonez huh what ? Off topic

[@midnightanimal6973]

You guys like to think that only job in the military is infantry don't you?

[@memehunter7967]

Probably. They think all of us are killing machines or shits. I wish I was that good. lol

[@berzerker1100]

I was active duty mid 70s to early 80s AIRBORNE INFANTRY, but, that was during the COLD WAR era, I'm in my early 60s now, it was nothing but a party back in those days Germany, Italy etc.. Oh well Not my fault😣

[@internet_internet]

They probably couldn’t even define Infantry...

[@wildchicken679]

I want to be Cavalry or tank crewman. Which is better? -Spying behind enemy lines and hoping you dont get spotted and surrounded. -Operating in a closed container that smells like gas for hours. And having the food taste like gas because of it.

[@iamjuniorwizkid]

That's your primary job.... That's why they teach how to use those weapons at Basic Training.

[@mrcamelfrags]

I don’t understand why people are surprised that they have to risk their life in the military.

[@shotgunkingj1670]

Adam Soumayah It's no excuses you should know what your signing up for before you take the oath.

[@XFizzlepop-Berrytwist]

Because it all depends on the job you want, for every soldier on the frontline there’s supposed to be like 3-5 support guys or something like that.

[@mrcamelfrags]

Still, it is their responsibility to read the entire contract and do the research. If you logically think about it, working on a military base means working on a potential target for enemy forces.

[@XFizzlepop-Berrytwist]

Adam Soumayah True, but also for some people though they aren’t given much choice, a huge part of the military is made up of people that grew up in poverty and wanted out, and for some people they committed a crime of some sort and was offered a chance to join as a way out. I think it’s a good idea on the crime part, lowers population of prisons, and cleans a persons record, giving them a second shot, in a way.

[@mrcamelfrags]

I agree with giving persons a second chance, and besides, if we keep on worrying about risks then we can never truly live.

[@MUSH6446]

Remember to be a true American patriot you must fight for Israel.

[@stuffthings9618]

Well there's a couple reasons people arent joining. We haven't been in a major war in decades, bootcamp sucks, girls don't wanna be sexually harassed, guys dont wanna die or end up with ptsd, people can actually make a living via unlikely jobs: rideshare, streaming, content creation, etc. This is outside of other jobs that are upping their benefits. Hell even Amazon gives full benefits nowadays and even gives you a $3k sign on bonus. All that sounds way better than war. But if you wanna know a secret. Come closer military recruiters. The real reason people arent enrolling is because no one wants to SHOWER NAKED INFRONT OF A BUNCH OF OTHER DUDES. Why is that even a thing????? Thats fuckin weird. I can't understand how people justify that. Just use stalls like normal people. Im pretty sure even in war you and your troops find secluded shitting/showering areas to give each other the smalllest bit of privacy. I mean cmon. You're soldiers not savages.

[@ericagrey7828]

When one of Trump's kids go I will go.

[@andreydikit652]

I doubt you're serious. But if you are, that's a terrible reason for joining. And believe me, it is very important to have a good reason if you're enlisting to any branch; you will hate your life if you join on a whim, or some kind of dumb reason like following someone. Military life is not for everyone. If you don't have a better reason to join than following one or more of Trump's kids, don't even bother.

[@dusttracks]

Okaaaaayyy!!!

[@Brown-streak_studios]

I think they’re too old. Though he could get them a waiver

[@jeovanneramos5066]

Sorry but for them bone spurs runs in the family

[@solidsnake9477]

Dude, there's plenty of non-combat jobs in the army. Not all of the them focuses on combat.

[@pattyhays487]

And this is a big surprize? Who the hell wants to go to the Middle East???????

[@operator1997]

Cadet Bonespurs only cares about size but not quality. Just like his own body.

[@MRTN13]

A bit like North Korea actually

[@EdgeO419]

Every president in the 20-21st century has relaxed the standards to boost numbers. I hate to defend Trump on anything but he didn't start this trend. We did the same thing before Iraq both times and during Vietnam and both World Wars. I hope you see the obvious trend here involving war. They just need people in positions in the very likely case of Trump doing something catastrophic and starting a major war.

[@maxxmatlock212]

They're having trouble. Because the incentives are gone. The U.S military is going downhill. It's not how it used to be. It's changed, and not for the better. Everyone just cares about themselves noe. They don't care about soldiers. If they did i would have a new fridge in my barracks room. I've waited 2 years for a new fridge. And I can't even get one. We have town hall meetings to "discuss" housing issues and conditions on post. But nothing every changes. Its been 5 years for me at Fort Campbell. This place is a shit hole. Black mold is everywhere in the barracks. And they just replace ceiling tiles. Thats covering up the actual problem. Its caused by leaking pipes in the buildings. But the Army is too cheap to fix anything. Maybe one day the Army will get better, but at this point, but I don't see that happening in my lifetime. ETS 2 months.

[@thebarbs3485]

Maxx Matlock Smart man 2 years 6 months for me good luck out there brother.

[@Crazywaffle5150]

Hold out and I'm glad you learned from your mistakes. I wish you well.

[@Tagout10593]

Ahhh yes the beautiful travel in the army, would you prefer the swamps of Ft polk, the deserts of Ft Irwin or possibly go international for a fun trip to an afghanistan resort?

[@Tagout10593]

Dusty you right you right, so many choices.

[@Tagout10593]

IMxYOURxDADDY mmmmm yessss

[@kylereese3957]

IMxYOURxDADDY Aaaah there is nothing as Great and relaxing as the peaceful Afghanistan outdoors

[@musicwelikemang]

Spot on Caleb. These stupid kids think its a fucking travel job. I think its interesting the army does plenty of physical training. Where is the education that fosters question, reasoning and logic? Oops. That'd ruin the military base.

[@Gutenburg100]

Hey if you're lucky you get ramstein...or good old k-town....

[@creepystares9853]

if you reduce the standards for your professional army, you reduce the quality of your professional army. History 101 first semester taught you that.

[@creepystares9853]

defining the value of a person's life based upon the opportunities they receive and then take advantage of seems quite short sighted.

[@imaterminator]

legionary illuminati not everyone can be in those positions... We only need so many doctors or lawyers and somebody has to do the dirty work.

[@codyaschenbrenner8438]

What college did you go to? Our best soldiers through history were convicts lmao

[@creepystares9853]

yeah Cody, why don't you define soldier for me. because convicts were not the best soldiers throughout history, history tells you that.

[@laughingjack85]

The most decorated soldier in American military was a man by the name of Audie Murphy. He had been rejected multiple times because he was too small.

[@defenderoffreespeechpronra336]

How about doubling the pay for each level from E1 and up! Then our boys wont have to apply for food stamps.

[@Betancourtdm]

I'm very curious why an E-1 would need to apply for food stamps. As an E-1 they are within their first 9 months of service (Navy) which means they are in boot camp or their schooling pipeline. During that time they are provide free housing in a barracks and free food at the galley. Also, they will have zero medical bills, extremely cheap life insurance any many discounts available at the exchange and out in town. With all this, the $1638 they make in pay per month is simply discretionary income. As E-1 might not be realistic, lets take a married E-4 for example... making about $2490 a month for basic pay, $2445 a month in housing allowance tax free based on San Diego numbers ($4935 total/$59220 a year not counting other compensation), still getting free food for the servicemember while at work or on deployment, virtually nothing paid for health care for their family, still getting cheap life insurance for them and their family, all discounts available... why again would they need to be on food stamps? I appreciate your opinion but I have never encountered a service member on food stamps in my 16 years in the Navy. If a Sailor is having extreme financial hardships for some reason we provide them with financial counseling and then we try to find resources such as the Navy Marine Corps Relief Society to provide interest free loans or grants in emergency situations. As @JadenPatrics stated, a person needing food stamps has an extreme problem that is far outside the norm.

[@defenderoffreespeechpronra336]

Yea, I do. In my state, there was an article some time ago about it. If someone is an E1 with a large family, it makes sense. When my husband was an E1, we struggled with our combined pay with all the bills we had, and we lived off base. My husband had to go through basic and training for his administrative job, but he was a once a month warrior. We never was on stamps, but we struggled. His pay was never enough. It was just the 2 of us, and no children. But the article referred to full enlisted men/women.

[@inayatseraj5119]

Defender of Free Speech & Pro NRA just go to the defac where they have free food.

[@chaddts]

Defender of Free Speech & Pro NRA just based on your grammer i see why you two were broke lmao...

[@matthewbaxter5825]

Defender of Free Speech & Pro NRA ur husband is a “once a month warrior”? Well I’m guessing that means he’s guard or reserve, and unless u can get a full time position, that isn’t designed to be a living wage. Guard/reserve only get paid for the weekend they work, not the whole month.

[@MyAb111]

Black people! we need business owners not soldiers..

[@olzt100]

Making the military larger increases the size of government. Making the military larger means more veterans that will require VA services. Making the military larger increases the cost of entitlements. Making the military larger means more veterans that will not get the actual benefits their recruiters stated because the US is a country that uplifts some while riding the backs of others.

[@pedroc9215]

olzt100 more than 50% of our gdp goes to entitlement programs for civilians you know.

[@olzt100]

Pete C and more than 50 perecent of the annual national wealth go to the peoep that already have everything. The con game that US citizens fall for is never asking why the military needs to increase size or spending.The national actors are farily stable. And as a veteran, I can tell any recruit the US is not offering anything worth their life.

[@byroncoleman5990]

I feel the same brother as a veteran."Amen".

[@loszhor]

"Lowering" standard doesn't mean letting lesser candidates in. It usually means taking a look at the current ones and updating them to be useful. Take the example giving about marijuana use. Does anyone here truly think someone can serve because they smoked weed?

[@aizengenesis3761]

I use too smoke weed and if you stop for like 3 years your good your cognitive ability basically gets better I was 19 when I smoked alot but I stopped at 23

[@PiscesSun_Capricornrising]

Weed is a relaxer. Its not cocaine heroine or bath salts. Denying based on weed is like denying based on drinking alcohol. It's fine done in moderation during time off. And It won't affect job performance as long as it's not used before work or something stupid like that. I could see if someone was denied for using it daily because they need mental counseling like an alcoholic would. But otherwise, preventing them from joining is a thousand more ppl turned away that could help manning issues.

[@Chassidy20]

Exactly... That statement was very misleading; they're not necessarily lowering standards, they're just adjusting them.

[@theamici]

@@aizengenesis3761 "your cognitive ability basically gets better" that's called growing. The human brain is not finished developing before about 25 years old, and there's a huge amount of growth from 19-25. You're attributing benefits to weed that are actually natural human development.

[@philipfry9436]

@@theamici "You're attributing benefits to weed that are actually natural human development." Thus proving that there are no negative consequence to consuming cannabis. _Literally_ his point. You are not good at debate, right?

[@смиренный-х2б]

"If you see some friends who may need some extra direction" - *It's a trap - Don't*

[@Late_Night_Talks_Channel]

Joined USAF- Had bad leadership plenty of times but that exists in the civilian world tenfold... Traveled to Italy and lived there for two years. I saw most of Europe. Joined Air Force so I was practically handed an AS degree for two different jobs I did while I was in. Ended up with three AS degrees and a BA degree for free. Got to look back on the fact I served and be proud. I don't know about other branches because I hear they really suck. But all in all I'm glad I joined the Air Force. People think about all these irrelevant big wars for oil talk. Statistically few ppl in the service ever saw combat. Just shut your trap.

[@danialabrisyam1773]

her face is like sad all the time ahhahaha

[@killacamfoo]

that is the face of FAS

[@biggzzify]

resting stoned face

[@sambeck2510]

You ever see Ice Age? There's this character named Sid the Sloth.

[@-R.E.D.A.C.T.E.D-]

She looks like a genderbent Harry Potter who went through all the events in the sequels.

[@cindyknows9220]

she needs new glasses

[@supergoraw]

make the salary’s start at 100k and you’ll meet your recruitment goal

[@nisseranderogregy6268]

Supergoraw No, if you want that pay you can work your way up as an officer.

[@hawkeyestiguy]

Go officer, you'll make that fairly quickly. Also, if they were to pay everyone 100k off the bat, you'd have people crying about paying significantly higher taxes. You can't have it both ways. Lol.

[@heraldomedrano6993]

Cartels pay better.

[@jamiesnack]

@@heraldomedrano6993 you saying that we should join a drug cartel instead?

[@MRGrim666]

1 million for 10 yeah sure...

[@brandonburnham7831]

When you join for the Camaro, but realize getting screamed at daily and low pay doesn't foster a healthy work environment

[@randomfemaleopinion3167]

That sounds like basic to me, not the army in general

[@sal_joker10]

Try no pay

[@michaelkahn8903]

its all about pay for people who care about what they are doing.

[@giovannilove2188]

Yeah literally all the Army bro dudes go straight to a camaro or ford mustang, bunch of knuckle heads.